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#101 dan-rofl-copter
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[QUOTE="dan-rofl-copter"]

[QUOTE="Sajedene"]I really just want something done... rape and domestic violence are a very big deal to me. This is just NOT okay.Sajedene

Instead of criticizing what we are/aren't doing what are YOU going to try do against it.

Actually, I've already forwarded the news article to all of my sorority sisters and other alumni and we will probably have the active girls send out awareness flyers on campus the first day of school and have e-mailed the Women In Black organization to see what events they have planned.... what have you done?

Telling all my mates and were just putting all our heads together to think what would work in our local area.

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#102 twilightpanda
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So I just told my mother about this and she said: "Damn that sounds good for slimming. I like that idea." :lol:DrSponge
lol ahaha you have a funny mom :lol:
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#103 Trinners
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[QUOTE="Trinners"]

[QUOTE="Sajedene"] Actually, I'm dead serious. When a country clearly violates human rights - do we not do something about it? SHOULD we not do something about it?DrSponge

What is human rights? Is our interpretation correct or is theirs correct? On whose authority can we force our beliefs onto others without making us look like total hypocrites? A person's version of what is right and wrong can greatly differ when in contrast with another person's morality.

I doubt the women are happy. When roughly 50% of the population are being attacked, that is, objectively, a violation of human rights.

Again what human rights? What inherent rights do humans have since birth? Women are not treated equal in their culture, while women are treated equal in ours (supposedly). That is their way of life, should we then push our culture down their throats? What about the other 50% that are opposed to making women be seen as equals? Do they not have a right to object even though we view it as wrong?

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#104 Sajedene
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[QUOTE="DrSponge"][QUOTE="Trinners"]

What is human rights? Is our interpretation correct or is theirs correct? On whose authority can we force our beliefs onto others without making us look like total hypocrites? A person's version of what is right and wrong can greatly differ when in contrast with another person's morality.

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I doubt the women are happy. When roughly 50% of the population are being attacked, that is, objectively, a violation of human rights.

Again what human rights? What inherent rights do humans have since birth? Women are not treated equal in their culture, while women are treated equal in ours (supposedly). That is their way of life, should we then push our culture down their throats? What about the other 50% that are opposed to making women be seen as equals? Do they not have a right to object even though we view it as wrong?

So when a country thinks that a certain group of people are not equal to them and should be abolished... well that is their thing and they were born to believe that... so its okay to commit genocide.
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#105 horgen  Moderator
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So I just told my mother about this and she said: "Damn that sounds good for slimming. I like that idea." :lol:DrSponge
That's just... **** epic :lol:
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#106 Enosh88
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="Thessassin"]...:| i hope youre kidding

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Actually, I'm dead serious. When a country clearly violates human rights - do we not do something about it? SHOULD we not do something about it?

What do you expect us to do when we get there? How does one country change the cultural norms of another?

1. you conquer it

2. you give rights like voting, trading without taxes only to your own people, you import your culture (food, entertainment) to their place

3. look at them trying to be more like you in order to have a say in the goverment, beacose they want more power in trading and beacose they got used to your culture, usualy works from the top down, so the rich elite will change sooner in order to get certain benefits, lower classes will folow soon

that's how it worked quite well for Rome

about the actual topic, this law shows why western culture>their culture

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#107 Sajedene
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="dan-rofl-copter"]

Instead of criticizing what we are/aren't doing what are YOU going to try do against it.

dan-rofl-copter

Actually, I've already forwarded the news article to all of my sorority sisters and other alumni and we will probably have the active girls send out awareness flyers on campus the first day of school and have e-mailed the Women In Black organization to see what events they have planned.... what have you done?

Telling all my mates and were just putting all our heads together to think what would work in our local area.

Might I suggest contacting your local women's rights groups in your area then? How about that?
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#108 horgen  Moderator
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Again what human rights? What inherent rights do humans have since birth? Women are not treated equal in their culture, while women are treated equal in ours (supposedly). That is their way of life, should we then push our culture down their throats? What about the other 50% that are opposed to making women be seen as equals? Do they not have a right to object even though we view it as wrong?

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My guess is the human rights agreement that nearly every country in the world did sign.. UN made it.
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#109 DrSponge
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[QUOTE="DrSponge"][QUOTE="Trinners"]

What is human rights? Is our interpretation correct or is theirs correct? On whose authority can we force our beliefs onto others without making us look like total hypocrites? A person's version of what is right and wrong can greatly differ when in contrast with another person's morality.

Trinners

I doubt the women are happy. When roughly 50% of the population are being attacked, that is, objectively, a violation of human rights.

Again what human rights? What inherent rights do humans have since birth? Women are not treated equal in their culture, while women are treated equal in ours (supposedly). That is their way of life, should we then push our culture down their throats? What about the other 50% that are opposed to making women be seen as equals? Do they not have a right to object even though we view it as wrong?

While true, I think that there should be general human rights, and anything involving large-scale harm should not be tolerated.

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#110 dan-rofl-copter
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[QUOTE="dan-rofl-copter"]

[QUOTE="Sajedene"] Actually, I've already forwarded the news article to all of my sorority sisters and other alumni and we will probably have the active girls send out awareness flyers on campus the first day of school and have e-mailed the Women In Black organization to see what events they have planned.... what have you done?Sajedene

Telling all my mates and were just putting all our heads together to think what would work in our local area.

Might I suggest contacting your local women's rights groups in your area then? How about that?

Saying as I am on holiday, and that my village is very small I don't even think we have one, but my mates are looking it up.

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#111 dracula_16
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So I just told my mother about this and she said: "Damn that sounds good for slimming. I like that idea." :lol:DrSponge

Give her a pat on the back for me. :lol:

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#112 FFCYAN
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[QUOTE="yarou1000"][QUOTE="Sajedene"] Actually, I'm dead serious. When a country clearly violates human rights - do we not do something about it? SHOULD we not do something about it?Sajedene

stupid americans always sticking there nose in other countries business :D

Yeah... kinda like how we did when Hitler butchered people... or when Japan raped and pilaged all the countries around them... THEN when America chooses not to "stick its nose in" so you say, in countries such as Sudan and Rwanda, when clear as day genocide is happening... other countries (usually the countries being raped) gets mad at US for not "sticking our nose in".

We're damned if we do by the country we invade, damned if we don't if we choose to stay out of these issues. I've sent e-mail to the White House for a long while regarding the genocide in Darfur and still nothing. Do you think people really care about genocide? Maybe. When it's Afican genocide, apparently not.:evil:

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#113 Trinners
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[QUOTE="Trinners"]

[QUOTE="DrSponge"] I doubt the women are happy. When roughly 50% of the population are being attacked, that is, objectively, a violation of human rights.Sajedene

Again what human rights? What inherent rights do humans have since birth? Women are not treated equal in their culture, while women are treated equal in ours (supposedly). That is their way of life, should we then push our culture down their throats? What about the other 50% that are opposed to making women be seen as equals? Do they not have a right to object even though we view it as wrong?

So when a country thinks that a certain group of people are not equal to them and should be abolished... well that is their thing and they were born to believe that... so its okay to commit genocide.

False dichotomy

Genocide has an objective negative (not synonymous with wrong) effect on the population due to actual lives being lost, standard of living/way of life on the other hand is purely subjective.

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#114 meiaman
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So I just told my mother about this and she said: "Damn that sounds good for slimming. I like that idea." :lol:DrSponge
Lol. Your mon won the internets. :lol:
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#115 Sajedene
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="Trinners"]

Again what human rights? What inherent rights do humans have since birth? Women are not treated equal in their culture, while women are treated equal in ours (supposedly). That is their way of life, should we then push our culture down their throats? What about the other 50% that are opposed to making women be seen as equals? Do they not have a right to object even though we view it as wrong?

Trinners

So when a country thinks that a certain group of people are not equal to them and should be abolished... well that is their thing and they were born to believe that... so its okay to commit genocide.

False dichotomy

Genocide has an objective negative (not synonymous with wrong) effect on the population due to actual lives being lost, standard of living/way of life on the other hand is purely subjective.

Not according to the UN which Afghanistan is a charter member of.... And all I still see with what you are trying to do is find and reason for rape and starvation to be okay. Dumbing that down to a "standard of living" is quite disturbing.
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#116 ferron321
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AfghaniSTUNNED?!
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#117 joesh89
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Another step back into the middle ages, bravo Afghanistan!

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#118 Trinners
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[QUOTE="Trinners"]

[QUOTE="Sajedene"] So when a country thinks that a certain group of people are not equal to them and should be abolished... well that is their thing and they were born to believe that... so its okay to commit genocide.Sajedene

False dichotomy

Genocide has an objective negative (not synonymous with wrong) effect on the population due to actual lives being lost, standard of living/way of life on the other hand is purely subjective.

Not according to the UN which Afghanistan is a charter member of.... And all I still see with what you are trying to do is find and reason for rape and starvation to be okay. Dumbing that down to a "standard of living" is quite disturbing.

Stop making baseless assumptions. I am in no way justifying rape and starvation. In fact I am doing the opposite because you cannot justify anything by using subjective reasoning. The UN is irrelevant because their version of what humans rights are and what is morally right is still for the most part subjective even though I agree with them.

When will you understand that you have to respect a nation's culture regardless of how wrong you think their way of life is? There are native tribes in africa who punish their criminals by cannibalism which I view as despicable but I am not going to confront them with force and tell them that their way of life is wrong and that mine is right.

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#119 sikanderahmed
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*facepalm*

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#120 Fuzzy_Bear123
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[QUOTE="Thessassin"]

[QUOTE="Sajedene"]I think it's time we invade them and tell them how to run things.... Sajedene

...:| i hope youre kidding

Actually, I'm dead serious. When a country clearly violates human rights - do we not do something about it? SHOULD we not do something about it?

You might be invading the entire Middle East and Africa if you want to stick to that statement.
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#121 Duckman5
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Wow that's pretty crazy.
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#122 Alter_Echo
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And this is why we have no business over there. Just leave and let the ignorant, antiquated backwards thinking morons kill themselves off.