Wikileaks founder has classified footage of a US airstrike killing 140 Afghans.

Question. If these videos are posted and such will they really do much damage? It is an airstrike right? Usually the footage is pretty far away from the scene so we won't be seeing close up gritty footage just general damage from afar. Doesn't seem as personal.Nifty_Shark

Question. If these videos are posted and such will they really do much damage? It is an airstrike right? Usually the footage is pretty far away from the scene so we won't be seeing close up gritty footage just general damage from afar. Doesn't seem as personal.Nifty_Shark

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A lot of butthurt in this thread.

Its crazy, but lets just say the US has a bit of a history in hitting the wrong target. Like the weapons depo they went to hit that time, it turned out to be making medicine for people

[QUOTE="Nifty_Shark"]Question. If these videos are posted and such will they really do much damage? It is an airstrike right? Usually the footage is pretty far away from the scene so we won't be seeing close up gritty footage just general damage from afar. Doesn't seem as personal.Snipes_2

The argument isn't about whether there are civilians in these videos or not. There almost always are.

The argument is generally about what the circumstances under which these people were killed were, and whether those circumstances justify the act or not.

War has high costs on many aspects. Not just financially. Of course its sad when innocent people lose their lives. Thats what happens when they live in a war zone though. Innocent civilians should be moved for the time being. ... but thats unrealistic, because we cant tell who our enemy is, and who innocent civilians are. Children will shoot guns at soldiers, and throw rocks at them. Women will also shoot at soldiers. Both will strap up and blow up - but not ALL of them will. Its hard to tell who will and who wont. They create IED's out of donkeys and dogs for crying out loud. Am I saying its justified? No. Am I saying its ok? No. Why? Cause we as civilians do not know all the information to go along with the video. We dont know if they were in fact innocent, if they had reason to open fire on them, and we dont know the mental state of the soldiers that opened fire. Have you ever been in a warzone? Do you know what its like to have to kill people? Do you know what its like to get shot at? Do you know what its like to have mortars exploding around you, and you sitting there, then looking over to see if your buddy is ok, and come to find out that hes.. half the man he used to be (to put it in non gruesome terms). If soldiers did do this on purpose... the soldiers may have done it because of PTSD - which is real, and it is terrible. And more of our soldiers are developing it because of the Iraq and Afghanistan war - several tours of hell... Some men cant take it.xhellcatx

[QUOTE="xhellcatx"]****hellcat rant****.Xx_Hopeless_xX

[QUOTE="xhellcatx"]War has high costs on many aspects. Not just financially. Of course its sad when innocent people lose their lives. Thats what happens when they live in a war zone though. Innocent civilians should be moved for the time being. ... but thats unrealistic, because we cant tell who our enemy is, and who innocent civilians are. Children will shoot guns at soldiers, and throw rocks at them. Women will also shoot at soldiers. Both will strap up and blow up - but not ALL of them will. Its hard to tell who will and who wont. They create IED's out of donkeys and dogs for crying out loud. Am I saying its justified? No. Am I saying its ok? No. Why? Cause we as civilians do not know all the information to go along with the video. We dont know if they were in fact innocent, if they had reason to open fire on them, and we dont know the mental state of the soldiers that opened fire. Have you ever been in a warzone? Do you know what its like to have to kill people? Do you know what its like to get shot at? Do you know what its like to have mortars exploding around you, and you sitting there, then looking over to see if your buddy is ok, and come to find out that hes.. half the man he used to be (to put it in non gruesome terms). If soldiers did do this on purpose... the soldiers may have done it because of PTSD - which is real, and it is terrible. And more of our soldiers are developing it because of the Iraq and Afghanistan war - several tours of hell... Some men cant take it.SEANMCAD

I cant speak for the orginal poster but for me my question is not 'why did a predictable war event take place' but rather why is the event hidden from public review?

THAT is the larger question I think

God only knows why they did it, or how inflated the numbers are. The fact is we'll never know all the facts. For all we know, it could have been a terrorist summer training camp. You don't have to be that old to operate an RPG, so it might even be possible these "kids" were terrorists already. No one knows.

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I cant speak for the orginal poster but for me my question is not 'why did a predictable war event take place' but rather why is the event hidden from public review?

THAT is the larger question I think

There is a difference between a persons perception of 'needing' to see every event and events being off-limits for review.

The question is NOT should we see every event, the issue is why are some events explicitly (look up the word if you don't know it) set for non view.

Two entirely different subjects

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You assume that what is not shown does not endanger national security....and as with all assumptions dude....

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I cant speak for the orginal poster but for me my question is not 'why did a predictable war event take place' but rather why is the event hidden from public review?

THAT is the larger question I think

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itsyears past and as hard as I look and listen to those videos for the life of me I still cant idenify the name of the soliders would you mind telling me their names now that its releasesd as you suggest