Will President Obama be remembered in history as one of the greatest Presidents?

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#1 Obama-
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I know at the moment FDR and Lincoln are considered the best but do you think President Obama will make the top 10?
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#2 LJS9502_basic
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No. He's rather ineffectual.
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#3 Fightingfan
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No, just the black president.
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#4 nZiFFLe
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what are your thoughts, tc?

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#5 bats94
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One of the worst, actually.

Or are you just trolling?

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#6 mattbbpl
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I certainly don't see any accomplishments to date that would merit the consideration.
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#7 eggdog1234
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No. He's rather ineffectual.LJS9502_basic

Agree that he won't be remember as one of the greatest presidents, but he has been quite effective in terms of continuing business as usual.

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#8 deactivated-598fc45371265
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That would depend on who's writing the next generation of history books for America's schools.

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#9 SteverXIII
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Um, he would probably just be remembered for being the first black president. He hasn't really done anything of note that I can think of.
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#10 MrPraline
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No.
No, just the black president.Fightingfan
Who bombed an African country.
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#11 Celldrax
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Obama, you won't get any free points by posting here in OT.

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Banjo?
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I certainly don't see any accomplishments to date that would merit the consideration.mattbbpl
Well he ended DADT, killed Bin Laden and Gaddafi, got health care legislation passed and ended the war in Iraq. That is just a quick list.
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#14 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]I certainly don't see any accomplishments to date that would merit the consideration.mqtt
Well he ended DADT, killed Bin Laden and Gaddafi, got health care legislation passed and ended the war in Iraq. That is just a quick list.

He also signed a few bills that make America sound like a Military state.

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#15 chessmaster1989
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Depends on whether he wins a second term and what he does with it if he does. If he gets voted out in November, he'll be remembered probably as an okay president. His presidency can be given credit for some foreign policy accomplishments and for the stimulus bill, but not much else.
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#16 mattbbpl
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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]I certainly don't see any accomplishments to date that would merit the consideration.mqtt
Well he ended DADT, killed Bin Laden and Gaddafi, got health care legislation passed and ended the war in Iraq. That is just a quick list.

All relatively minor when comparing him on a historical scale with the likes of those in the OP.
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#17 Fusionmix
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Are you joking?

We haven't had a competent president since Clinton. >_>

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#18 flordeceres
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is this a ruse obama

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#19 surrealnumber5
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No. [QUOTE="Fightingfan"]No, just the black president.MrPraline
Who bombed an African country.

and jailed millions of others. :( self hating black people are not nearly as funny as self hating jews.
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#20 Fundai
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No.

Just the first black one.

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#22 KC_Hokie
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He'll be known as a huge disappointment.
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#23 SteverXIII
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flordeceres
lol
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#24 MrPraline
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rofl welcome back, my queen.
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#25 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="flordeceres"]SteverXIII
lol

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#26 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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Too early to say now but most likely he'll end up somewhere in the middle.

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#27 Ring_of_fire
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Who knows, really. He's definitely not near the bottom though
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#28 soulless4now
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I only clicked on this thread because of the username. >.>

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#29 SaudiFury
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are...are you Obama?

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#30 -Sun_Tzu-
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We haven't had a competent president since Clinton. >_>

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lol'd
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I certainly don't see any accomplishments to date that would merit the consideration.mattbbpl

I was wondering about that. The only accomplishment I can think of is Bin Laden fell on his watch. I don't think that qualifies enough to merit being a great president.

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#33 surrealnumber5
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Anyone could look great being the president after Bush.

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apparently not.
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No, just the black president.Fightingfan

Do you think we'll have another Black president, or at least another non-White president? If so, how soon?

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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]No, just the black president.BluRayHiDef

Do you think we'll have another Black president, or at least another non-White president? If so, how soon?

as soon as another one is qualified for the job or can find away to play the race card and in doing so have everyone ignore his or her deficient political stance.
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#36 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]No, just the black president.BluRayHiDef

Do you think we'll have another Black president, or at least another non-White president? If so, how soon?

Yeah, more likely then a gay president.
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]No, just the black president.Fightingfan

Do you think we'll have another Black president, or at least another non-White president? If so, how soon?

Yeah, more likely then a gay president.

I honestly want a female president. To be even more specific, I'd love for us to have a female Oriental president. That would be awesome.

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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]No, just the black president.surrealnumber5

Do you think we'll have another Black president, or at least another non-White president? If so, how soon?

as soon as another one is qualified for the job or can find away to play the race card and in doing so have everyone ignore his or her deficient political stance.

you forgot the part about mitt Romney being of Mexican decent, so it may well happen sooner than later.
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

Do you think we'll have another Black president, or at least another non-White president? If so, how soon?

surrealnumber5
as soon as another one is qualified for the job or can find away to play the race card and in doing so have everyone ignore his or her deficient political stance.

you forgot the part about mitt Romney being of Mexican decent, so it may well happen sooner than later.

Mitt Romney is not of Mexican decent. Just because his family escaped to Mexico to practice polygamy in the 19th century doesn't make Mittens mexicano.
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] as soon as another one is qualified for the job or can find away to play the race card and in doing so have everyone ignore his or her deficient political stance.

you forgot the part about mitt Romney being of Mexican decent, so it may well happen sooner than later.

Mitt Romney is not of Mexican decent. Just because his family escaped to Mexico to practice polygamy in the 19th century doesn't make Mittens mexicano.

so just because my parents were Americans that does not make me an American?
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

Do you think we'll have another Black president, or at least another non-White president? If so, how soon?

BluRayHiDef

Yeah, more likely then a gay president.

I honestly want a female president. To be even more specific, I'd love for us to have a female Oriental president. That would be awesome.

Seeing as you are basically asking for us to inquire further, please elaborate.
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#42 BluRayHiDef
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"] Yeah, more likely then a gay president.FragStains

I honestly want a female president. To be even more specific, I'd love for us to have a female Oriental president. That would be awesome.

Seeing as you are basically asking for us to inquire further, please elaborate.

What is there for me to elabortate on? I was as clear as I could be in expressing what type of president I'd want in the future.

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#43 FragStains
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[QUOTE="FragStains"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

I honestly want a female president. To be even more specific, I'd love for us to have a female Oriental president. That would be awesome.

BluRayHiDef

Seeing as you are basically asking for us to inquire further, please elaborate.

What is there for me to elabortate on? I was as clear as I could be in expressing what type of president I'd want in the future.

You could give me your rationale.
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] you forgot the part about mitt Romney being of Mexican decent, so it may well happen sooner than later.

Mitt Romney is not of Mexican decent. Just because his family escaped to Mexico to practice polygamy in the 19th century doesn't make Mittens mexicano.

so just because my parents were Americans that does not make me an American?

I don't know what you are trying to say. If your parents were Americans then you too are American, but "American" isn't an ethnicity, it's a nationality. Mitt Romney is neither ethnically Mexican nor is he a Mexican national.
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:lol:

No, the two big things covered on his section of the history book will be about him being the first minority president and over the recession.

Not saying he's horrible, just average meh

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Mitt Romney is not of Mexican decent. Just because his family escaped to Mexico to practice polygamy in the 19th century doesn't make Mittens mexicano. -Sun_Tzu-
so just because my parents were Americans that does not make me an American?

I don't know what you are trying to say. If your parents were Americans then you too are American, but "American" isn't an ethnicity, it's a nationality. Mitt Romney is neither ethnically Mexican nor is he a Mexican national.

what would you call a black person who family has lived in spain since the Moorish invasion? would you call them a Spaniard or a Moor? would they be European or African?

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#47 -Sun_Tzu-
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] so just because my parents were Americans that does not make me an American? surrealnumber5

I don't know what you are trying to say. If your parents were Americans then you too are American, but "American" isn't an ethnicity, it's a nationality. Mitt Romney is neither ethnically Mexican nor is he a Mexican national.

what would you call a black person who family has lived in spain since the Moorish invasion? would you call them a Spaniard or a Moor? would they be European or African?

He'd be both a spanish citizen and a moor.
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#48 BluRayHiDef
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="FragStains"]Seeing as you are basically asking for us to inquire further, please elaborate.FragStains

What is there for me to elabortate on? I was as clear as I could be in expressing what type of president I'd want in the future.

You could give me your rationale.

Well, Blacks and Whites have a historical presence here in the U.S., as well as an arduous relationship with one another. Hence, though it is incredible to have a Black president considering the adversity Blacks have faced in this country as a result of the aforementioned ardduous relationship, it would be quite interesting to have someone of an ethnicity/ race aside from the historical racial groups - Blacks and Whites. It would be interesting to see how the country would react to the campaign and election of a non-Black/ non-White presidential candidate. As for why I chose a female, we've only had male presidents up until this point. As for why I specifically chose Oriental, I like Oriental culture and admire the work-ethic of Orientals.

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#49 FragStains
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[QUOTE="FragStains"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

What is there for me to elabortate on? I was as clear as I could be in expressing what type of president I'd want in the future.

BluRayHiDef

You could give me your rationale.

Well, Blacks and Whites have a historical presence here in the U.S., as well as an arduous relationship with one another. Hence, though it is incredible to have a Black president considering the adversity Blacks have faced in this country as a result of the aforementioned ardduous relationship, it would be quite interesting to have someone of an ethnicity/ race aside from the historical racial groups - Blacks and Whites. It would be interesting to see how the country would react to the campaign and election of a non-Black/ non-White presidential candidate. As for why I chose a female, we've only males up until this point. As for why I specifically chose Oriental, I like Oriental culture and admire the work-ethic of Orientals.

I think they like to be called Asians.
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#50 BluRayHiDef
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="FragStains"]You could give me your rationale.FragStains

Well, Blacks and Whites have a historical presence here in the U.S., as well as an arduous relationship with one another. Hence, though it is incredible to have a Black president considering the adversity Blacks have faced in this country as a result of the aforementioned ardduous relationship, it would be quite interesting to have someone of an ethnicity/ race aside from the historical racial groups - Blacks and Whites. It would be interesting to see how the country would react to the campaign and election of a non-Black/ non-White presidential candidate. As for why I chose a female, we've only males up until this point. As for why I specifically chose Oriental, I like Oriental culture and admire the work-ethic of Orientals.

I think they like to be called Asians.

I used the term "Oriental" to distinguish from all Asians, which includes South East Asians.