No. :lol:
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[QUOTE="FragStains"]I think they like to be called Asians.BluRayHiDef
I used the term "Oriental" to distinguish from all Asians, which includes South East Asians.
So you only like the work ethic of certain Asians?[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]what would you call a black person who family has lived in spain since the Moorish invasion? would you call them a Spaniard or a Moor? would they be European or African? He'd be both a spanish citizen and a moor. so, to you no amount of time or heritage can ever change how you see people, its all based on skin color. i disagree.[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] I don't know what you are trying to say. If your parents were Americans then you too are American, but "American" isn't an ethnicity, it's a nationality. Mitt Romney is neither ethnically Mexican nor is he a Mexican national. -Sun_Tzu-
[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"][QUOTE="FragStains"]I think they like to be called Asians.FragStains
I used the term "Oriental" to distinguish from all Asians, which includes South East Asians.
So you only like the work ethic of certain Asians?Stop playing games.
So you only like the work ethic of certain Asians?[QUOTE="FragStains"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]
I used the term "Oriental" to distinguish from all Asians, which includes South East Asians.
BluRayHiDef
Stop playing games.
I am just trying to find out why you think a female 'Oriental' would be a good President of the United States. As far as I can tell, you think a female 'Oriental' would be good because it is just not the norm. and because certain Asian cultures you respect and like their work ethic.[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"][QUOTE="FragStains"]So you only like the work ethic of certain Asians?FragStains
Stop playing games.
I am just trying to find out why you think a female 'Oriental' would be a good President of the United States. As far as I can tell, you think a female 'Oriental' would be good because it is just not the norm. and because certain Asian cultures you respect and like their work ethic.I think an Oriental president in general would be good because of the work-ethic of Orientals; they have the higest grades in the U.S. school system, as well as the highest IQs in the world. The female aspect is just a perk.
No. [QUOTE="Fightingfan"]No, just the black president.MrPralineWho bombed an African country. They're not actually black in Libya.
[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] what would you call a black person who family has lived in spain since the Moorish invasion? would you call them a Spaniard or a Moor? would they be European or African?surrealnumber5He'd be both a spanish citizen and a moor. so, to you no amount of time or heritage can ever change how you see people, its all based on skin color. i disagree. :? All I'm saying is that nationality =/= ethnicity. Merely living in a country doesn't make you the predominant ethnicity of that country. None of Romney's family that lived in Mexico prior to returning to the United States were even Mexican citizens. They retained their American citizenship.
Seeing as you are basically asking for us to inquire further, please elaborate.[QUOTE="FragStains"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]
I honestly want a female president. To be even more specific, I'd love for us to have a female Oriental president. That would be awesome.
BluRayHiDef
What is there for me to elabortate on? I was as clear as I could be in expressing what type of president I'd want in the future.
Do you want to have sexual fantasies about the president then?LOLLLL
hell no.
he will be remembered as the first Black president and a president who's campaign slogan was "Change" but never got any real change done. Nothing more, nothing less.
[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] predominant ethnicity shows that you do believe that a country can have more than one ethnicity in it as you see it. being black does not keep a person from being a spaniard surrealnumber5Because spanish ethnicity is not a requirement for acquiring spanish citizenship ethnicity has nothing to do with citizenship it has to do with whom those people associate with. i dont believe in associating based on race, i accept other people do, but i reject that ethnicity is to be synonymous with race. TBH I don't know what this post is suppose to be.
But based on what you said Romney still isn't Mexican because he doesn't associate himself with Mexicans.
ethnicity has nothing to do with citizenship it has to do with whom those people associate with. i dont believe in associating based on race, i accept other people do, but i reject that ethnicity is to be synonymous with race. TBH I don't know what this post is suppose to be.[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Because spanish ethnicity is not a requirement for acquiring spanish citizenship-Sun_Tzu-
But based on what you said Romney still isn't Mexican because he doesn't associate himself with Mexicans.
did his family? any way, the romeney thing was not to be taken seriously, but this idea that race=ethnicity i do want to address.[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="fidosim"]Hopefully he'll play Hoover or Carter to the next FDR or Reagan. fidosimOr maybe he'll play Grover Cleveland to the next Grover Cleveland. But who's Benjamin Harrison? Newt obviously. He's gonna win big at the convention just you wait.
If he's removed this November, he'll be remembered as inconsequential and neither great nor disastrous relative to other presidents. Otherwise, depends on what happens in his second term.
Eh no. He won't be remembered.
He's just one of many presidents that makes promises that they do not deliver on.
He hasn't done much, but i don't believe presidents have as much control as people believe. Presidents are more figureheads than the person with the control of the country.
No, IMO he isn't really that good of a president,he's just a repeat of Bush and Clinton. And the people who are running for office look pretty crappy too, so no I don't think we are going to have a good president any time soon.
But he will obviously be remembered as the first black president.
Too early to tell.
Yes Obama has been criticized to the point where it may seem that he's an unpopular president but if you were to recall numerous presidents with such similar situations (i.e. Reagan and FDR) Obama could be remembered several years after his presidency (assuming he wins a second term) with such high regard, especially since he's the first black president.
Or he could be like Jimmy Carter or James Buchanan.
No, IMO he isn't really that good of a president,he's just a repeat of Bush and Clinton. And the people who are running for office look pretty crappy too, so no I don't think we are going to have a good president any time soon.
But he will obviously be remembered as the first black president.
ShadowMoses900
Lets face it: Every president is a repeat with only minor differences. This is not to say that the presidents are just "clones" but rather just the American people expect so much but do not realize that Congress holds more power than they realize.
Hard to tell since his first term isn't over and it remains to be seen whether or not he'll get a 2nd. It is possible, but I doubt it. Right now I'd put him somewhere in the middle, but really these arguments over presidents are usually nonsense anyway. How can anyone alive today truly evaluate a president from 125 years ago?
You'd have to have a very detailed understanding of what the times were like; also, often good things about a president will become over embelished and they will become almost a hero of folklore when in reality they had definite flaws. The opposite can also be true. Anyway, it might also come down to who you have in your top 10.
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
No, IMO he isn't really that good of a president,he's just a repeat of Bush and Clinton. And the people who are running for office look pretty crappy too, so no I don't think we are going to have a good president any time soon.
But he will obviously be remembered as the first black president.
leviathan91
Lets face it: Every president is a repeat with only minor differences. This is not to say that the presidents are just "clones" but rather just the American people expect so much but do not realize that Congress holds more power than they realize.
True, I sometimes think the President has very little power actually and can only suggest or "mildly influence" those who do have power like Congress. It's funny because people eat this crap up about this bill or that bill and vote in the president thinking he can actually do it, but they don't realise Congress are the ones who actually have to PASS it before it even goes into affect.
It doesn't matter who becomes president if you don't change the Congress, it's just going to be the same thing as last time (like you said)
I know at the moment FDR and Lincoln are considered the best but do you think President Obama will make the top 10?Obama-Can I please have your autograph? :)
No, just the black president.FightingfanYep. It got to the point where we needed one. Like how companies through a black or asian kid the marketing campaigns for good measurement. If it wasnt for being politically correct we all know it would attractive white kids. You ever notice its always just one black or asian and a group of whites, never the opposite ratio.
[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"][QUOTE="FragStains"]So you only like the work ethic of certain Asians?FragStains
Stop playing games.
I am just trying to find out why you think a female 'Oriental' would be a good President of the United States. As far as I can tell, you think a female 'Oriental' would be good because it is just not the norm. and because certain Asian cultures you respect and like their work ethic. FACEPALM TO THE MAX/ DO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NATIONALITY AND ETHNICITY??? WTFI think his election will be remembered as significant. We won't really know until a year or two after his second term (I don't consider it a spoiler, its like, everyone knows the ending to the sixth sense, and everyone knows how the election is going to end). By this time in Bush's presidency people still liked the guy. I think if the economy improves and he passes some progressive policies he'll be held in high regard down the line. Greatest is very unlikely though. I don't think he will be disdained either though. He'll sit around average.
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