woman auctions off her virginity to highest bidder to pay for grad school

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#101 Redgarl
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[QUOTE="Shiro-kun"]

Prostitution is the act of having sex with someone who is paying you to do it. It is NOT forcefully a profession.

Jandurin
you think selling yourself in a non-physical manner is less demoralizing?

You said it well in few words... he thinks that...
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I wouldn't mind if it was legal.

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It is legal.
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#103 Shiro-kun
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It'S not my ideals, it's simply the blind old truth. You seem like a kid learning that Santa is fake. Working is a moral prostitution, you do this for being able to get money and survive... it's a job... most prostitute can't barely pay their drugs and instead of seeing someone, you are seeing an object... someone who doesn't deserve your respect. You are the one disgusted by prostitution, but you are really far from being the bestperson to preach about it dut to your unlogical sense of logic.

You know what, it doesn't matter for a politician because her vote will worth as much as yours.

Redgarl

Please don't refer to the way you see thing as the "blind old truth".

That's pretty stupid and honestly, shows you're a bit too full of yourself.

And wheter you like it or not, working is not prostitution. What you're saying is plain ridiculous in my mind.

You mean the dudes who make the games you lose your life playing are selling themselves for money?

Yes, they want money, but that's something necessary for survival. Do you think you'd eat at night without it? People work for themselves, if no one worked and had the same ideals you do, we'd still be primates.

Some people value work. I myself have programmed 4 games in the past, and I never got paid bull for them, I made them out of pleasure.

Also, since we're being so extremists, have you ever heard about the Free Software Foundation? If not, read a bit about it.

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#104 Shiro-kun
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[QUOTE="Shiro-kun"]

I wouldn't mind if it was legal.

Jandurin

It is legal.

It's not where I live.

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#105 Redgarl
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"][QUOTE="duxup"]

So the price is relevant?

duxup

Everyone has a price.

I don't doubt it in most cases. I'm tyring to figure out what Redgarl was getting at.

I was simply answering the indignation with the bland truth aside of morals and value. Would you sleep with someone for about 25K$? Most porn star will never do that much money for a single scene.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Shiro-kun"]

I wouldn't mind if it was legal.

Shiro-kun

It is legal.

It's not where I live.

That's where you live's fault. So, you go to the Bunny Ranch in Nevada and all your qualms would disappear?
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#107 stormydog1
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I bet her parents feel proud. "Oh, we couldn't help our daughter pay for grad school, now shes selling her body!" Cmon woman. Besides, most people get a job for a while, then go to grad school. If you already have a degree, then it shouldnt be that hard to get a good job.
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#108 Shiro-kun
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[QUOTE="Shiro-kun"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Shiro-kun"]

I wouldn't mind if it was legal.

Jandurin

It is legal.

It's not where I live.

That's where you live's fault. So, you go to the Bunny Ranch in Nevada and all your qualms would disappear?

What's your point? It's legal in your place, then good for you. It's not in mine, so I say I wouldn't mind if it was.

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#109 69ANT69
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I might have to make a bid :P

Seriously, I consider this prostitution.

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If you already have a degree, then it shouldnt be that hard to get a good job.stormydog1
Not entirely true these days. Base level University degrees aren't what they used to be.
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Seriously, I consider this prostitution.

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It is prostitution.
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#112 SolidSnake35
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Ew, she'd have to pay me instead.
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#113 Redgarl
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It'S not my ideals, it's simply the blind old truth. You seem like a kid learning that Santa is fake. Working is a moral prostitution, you do this for being able to get money and survive... it's a job... most prostitute can't barely pay their drugs and instead of seeing someone, you are seeing an object... someone who doesn't deserve your respect. You are the one disgusted by prostitution, but you are really far from being the bestperson to preach about it dut to your unlogical sense of logic.

You know what, it doesn't matter for a politician because her vote will worth as much as yours.

Shiro-kun

Please don't refer to the way you see thing as the "blind old truth".

That's pretty stupid and honestly, shows you're a bit too full of yourself.

And wheter you like it or not, working is not prostitution. What you're saying is plain ridiculous in my mind.

You mean the dudes who make the games you lose your life playing are selling themselves for money?

Yes, they want money, but that's something necessary for survival. Do you think you'd eat at night without it? People work for themselves, if no one worked and had the same ideals you do, we'd still be primates.

Some people value work. I myself have programmed 4 games in the past, and I never got paid bull for them, I made them out of pleasure.

Also, since we're being so extremists, have you ever heard about the Free Software Foundation? If not, read a bit about it.

You are proving me right since you bring personnal perspective and avoid to admit your humanity. So pure and so sure that you are right because your morals are the right one. Everyone got a price... it's the society we are in. We want everything and we can march on others to achieve it.

And please... don't mix art and work. Work is for amking a living and art is for personnal matter. Don't bring me crap that you can live from your art, most peoples need to work to live for their art, 2 different things.

Also, I am a bachelor in Electrical Engineering, I am far from the cave age. I am more refined than you are and I don't need to prove it. I am only able to see stuff from both site of the medal before opening my mouth which you don't have a clue of.

Misanthropist... of course, but stupid... in your dream :roll:

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Ew, she'd have to pay me instead.SolidSnake35
You find her that ugly? :o
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#115 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Misanthropist...

Redgarl
hatred or mistrust? Mistrust in humankind just makes sense. Hatred seems awfully... something.
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#116 Redgarl
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[QUOTE="stormydog1"]If you already have a degree, then it shouldnt be that hard to get a good job.Jandurin
Not entirely true these days. Base level University degrees aren't what they used to be.

The market have changed, it's a real jungle. There is no sure jobs nowaday.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Dunno. Pure conjecture. I just don't know why selling sex is such a big deal. Not that I would spend money on sex.. but I only have sex with people I know and respect.Shiro-kun

I don't really care much about selling sex. I wouldn't mind if it was legal. I don't support it or agree with it though.

I'm not religious, but I see sex as something a bit more important than a fun night.

And if we're talking about "real work", which everyone does and should do (community contribution is always important), yes I find it less demoralizing. Actually I don't find it demoralizing at all.

Hmm, so THAT'S what this is all about...

I see were you're coming from, I used to think exactly the same, I was determined to find the right girl or remain a virgin, because I was disgusted by all the mindless monkeys throwing away something as precious and special as sex, and I actually did, my girlfriend was the first and so far the only one I've "done it" with. But she made me realize that sex at the same time is and is not that big of a deal, it depends on who you're dealing with. Sex is undeniably fun, but there's a difference between making love and having sex, and that is wether you love the person or not. If you don't then it's great but it's just a fun night, it has no real meaning or value beyond that, but if you love the other person then it's an entirely different thing, it becomes something very special and meaningful you can't share with anyone else, and no matter how many times you have sex with someone you don't really love, it'll never mean anything because your loved one is the only one you can experience the special, meaningful experience of making love with.

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#118 Shiro-kun
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You are proving me right since you bring personnal perspective and avoid to admit your humanity. So pure and so sure that you are right because your morals are the right one. Everyone got a price... it's the society we are in. We want everything and we can march on others to achieve it.Redgarl

Huh? Sooo, LOL? So you really honestly believe you're saying the truth? And you told me about hypocrysism(sp?) a few posts ago!

I'm sorry sir/miss, but you don't detain complete knowledge, nor do I, everyone has their ideals and ways of seeing things. Yours is ridiculous from my perspective.

You are not saying the truth, because there is no truth, there are just people, although what you say is pretty disturbing and senseless.

And please... don't mix art and work. Work is for amking a living and art is for personnal matter. Don't bring me crap that you can live from your art, most peoples need to work to live for their art, 2 different things.

Redgarl

Whaaaaat? Did you really read what I said?

Also, I am a bachelor in Electrical Engineering, I am far from the cave age. I am more refined than you are and I don't need to prove it.

Redgarl

I don't really care about that, but I seriously doubt it.

I am only able to see stuff from both site of the medal before opening my mouth which you don't have a clue of.

Misanthropist... of course, but stupid... in your dream :roll:

Redgarl

Now you're just being arrogant, and blantly stupid. Let me tell you one thing:

Theres senseful arguing, and there's repetitive arguing.

You're just repeating the whole same thing over and over again, without giving me any senseful material.

Think a bit, gather arguments, and only then try to talk to me again.

By the way, it pisses me off that you're so arrogant.

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#119 Redgarl
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[QUOTE="Redgarl"]

Misanthropist...

Jandurin

hatred or mistrust? Mistrust in humankind just makes sense. Hatred seems awfully... something.

I don't have hope for humanity, in every situation they will rarely take the best decision. I admit with you that this gift is also a curse because you can judge people extremely fast and ending understanding them way faster than mostly anybody.

Probably both sincerely, peoples are not searching why they react the way they are, they simply feel without thinking why they feel that way.

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What ever happened to good ol' fundraisers? Wait- well I guess you could call this the same thing, but without the bake sale.:P

Personally I think it's a shame that she thinks she has to self herself to get through life; or at least enough to get through school. Surely there must be an another way, but I don't understand what she's going to except from the people bidding. Brains, personailty? Does she except prince charming to come and sweep her off her feet and give her a 'good time?' i can't say I agree but hey, she's seems to have already made up her mind. I just hope she doesn't have any regrets after it's done.

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peoples are not searching why they react the way they are, they simply feel without thinking why they feel that way.

Redgarl
They need to spend more time analyzing themselves. Agreed all the way.
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And wheter you like it or not, working is not prostitution. What you're saying is plain ridiculous in my mind.

You mean the dudes who make the games you lose your life playing are selling themselves for money?

Yes, they want money, but that's something necessary for survival. Do you think you'd eat at night without it? People work for themselves, if no one worked and had the same ideals you do, we'd still be primates.

Shiro-kun

Tell me how that is any different from what a prostitute does, assuming the prostitute in question does it for a living (which pretty much all of them do...).

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What ever happened to good ol' fundraisers? Wait- well I guess you could call this the same thing, but without the bake sale.:P

Personally I think it's a shame that she thinks she has to self herself to get through life; or at least enough to get through school. Surely there must be an another way, but I don't understand what she's going to except from the people bidding. Brains, personailty? Does she except prince charming to come and sweep her off her feet and give her a 'good time?' i can't say I agree but hey, she's seems to have already made up her mind. I just hope she doesn't have any regrets after it's done.

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Maybe she's just tired of feeling so pressured on dates. Now she won't have the V-card looming over her shoulder. :o
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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]Ew, she'd have to pay me instead.Jandurin
You find her that ugly? :o

She's very meh, but that doesn't matter. I'd never do it with anyone I didn't like... that's the plan anyway. >.>
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She's very meh, but that doesn't matter. I'd never do it with anyone I didn't like... that's the plan anyway. >.>SolidSnake35
Good plan.
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#126 The_Ish
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Have you seen her agument? Does it even make any sense? Give me a break, if you're arguing with someone, at least use some quality arguments.

Shiro-kun

You should not be talking. All I've seen of you is "lol that was funny" and "I disagree". You haven't offered anything substantial at all.

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#127 Shiro-kun
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[QUOTE="Shiro-kun"]

And wheter you like it or not, working is not prostitution. What you're saying is plain ridiculous in my mind.

You mean the dudes who make the games you lose your life playing are selling themselves for money?

Yes, they want money, but that's something necessary for survival. Do you think you'd eat at night without it? People work for themselves, if no one worked and had the same ideals you do, we'd still be primates.

black_cat19

Tell me how that is any different from what a prostitute does, assuming the prostitute in question does it for a living (which pretty much all of them do...).

As I have said before, at least they work towards something a bit more important than a dude's boner.

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Ew, she'd have to pay me instead.SolidSnake35
I also just saw the irony of your post, btw! :lol:
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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]She's very meh, but that doesn't matter. I'd never do it with anyone I didn't like... that's the plan anyway. >.>Jandurin
Good plan.

I've always been a genius when it comes to love.
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#130 Silenthps
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[QUOTE="duxup"]

So the price is relevant?

Oleg_Huzwog

Everyone has a price.

no... atleast not for selling your body
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#131 Shiro-kun
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[QUOTE="Shiro-kun"]

Have you seen her agument? Does it even make any sense? Give me a break, if you're arguing with someone, at least use some quality arguments.

The_Ish

You should not be talking. All I've seen of you is "lol that was funny" and "I disagree". You haven't offered anything substantial at all.

Maybe you should read a bit more =)

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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]Ew, she'd have to pay me instead.Jandurin
I also just saw the irony of your post, btw! :lol:

What irony? : o
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As I have said before, at least they work towards something a bit more important than a dude's boner.

Shiro-kun
Physical release/stress relief is big business. You saying that massage therapists have pointless jobs? Might as well get rid of them?
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]Ew, she'd have to pay me instead.SolidSnake35
I also just saw the irony of your post, btw! :lol:

What irony? : o

This thread turned into morality of this girl selling herself, and you came back with a "she'd have to pay me!"
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#135 Redgarl
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By the way, it pisses me off that you're so arrogant.

Shiro-kun

I am telling the truth about humanity as a whole. You are still young, that's why you are so eager to open your mouth without thinking a little.Art is what you have done with the games you imply and not being paid... it's actually sad that I need to make the link to you.

Gathering arguments? You didn't give one... you gave an opinion and I gather a whole lots of facts about human nature but you live in a dream and a lie. Open your eyes to reality.

If I piss you off so much is because you can't prove me wrong about my arguments. In that case, until you prove me wrong, my arguments are still stronger... and saying that I am stupid is... really stupid...

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#136 Redgarl
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[QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Shiro-kun"]

And wheter you like it or not, working is not prostitution. What you're saying is plain ridiculous in my mind.

You mean the dudes who make the games you lose your life playing are selling themselves for money?

Yes, they want money, but that's something necessary for survival. Do you think you'd eat at night without it? People work for themselves, if no one worked and had the same ideals you do, we'd still be primates.

Shiro-kun

Tell me how that is any different from what a prostitute does, assuming the prostitute in question does it for a living (which pretty much all of them do...).

As I have said before, at least they work towards something a bit more important than a dude's boner.

AS YOU SAID BEFORE, YOU THINK AND YOU BELIEVE... that's all you can do...
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#137 SolidSnake35
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This thread turned into morality of this girl selling herself, and you came back with a "she'd have to pay me!"Jandurin
Owh, yeah... Nobody better question my morals, or else.
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#138 Shiro-kun
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[QUOTE="Shiro-kun"]

As I have said before, at least they work towards something a bit more important than a dude's boner.

Jandurin

Physical release/stress relief is big business. You saying that massage therapists have pointless jobs? Might as well get rid of them?

If you have an arm injury, or whatever's that's been causing you pain/stress, you don't go towards prostitution.

They actually are trained to know how to release some stressful points of your body.

Having sex feels good, but it won't heal you any pain, or whatever's. People can live without sex (technically), however, their body may take some time to get better without a therapist's help.

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[QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Shiro-kun"]

And wheter you like it or not, working is not prostitution. What you're saying is plain ridiculous in my mind.

You mean the dudes who make the games you lose your life playing are selling themselves for money?

Yes, they want money, but that's something necessary for survival. Do you think you'd eat at night without it? People work for themselves, if no one worked and had the same ideals you do, we'd still be primates.

Shiro-kun

Tell me how that is any different from what a prostitute does, assuming the prostitute in question does it for a living (which pretty much all of them do...).

As I have said before, at least they work towards something a bit more important than a dude's boner.

So what if their job is not the most important in the world? They're still working and making a living off it. Would you say a gardener is working towards something extremely important? A hair-stylist? A massager? People need to make money to survive, regardless of how unimportant their jobs might be, that's really all there is to it.

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This woman has my respect--even though it's wrong by many people standards, she's doing what has to be done to get her money, and it's for a good purpose. That's all that really matters--so im definitely not knocking her hustle. But personally, it's not something I would do though. I'd look into being a stripper before doing that mess, but I do hope it works out for her though.
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#141 Oleg_Huzwog
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]Everyone has a price.

Silenthps

no... atleast not for selling your body

Yes, even you have a price for that. Whether or not you're willing to admit it is an entirely different question.

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#142 Shiro-kun
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Gathering arguments? You didn't give one... you gave an opinion and I gather a whole lots of facts about human nature but you live in a dream and a lie. Open your eyes to reality.

Redgarl

What facts (taking the JARGON of the word) have you given me exactly?

If I piss you off so much is because you can't prove me wrong about my arguments. In that case, until you prove me wrong, my arguments are still stronger... and saying that I am stupid is... really stupid...

Redgarl

You haven't given me any senseful arguments my friend, only your thoughts, but of course, to you, you hold ULTIMATE KNOWLEDGE.

Give me a break and grow up.

AS YOU SAID BEFORE, YOU THINK AND YOU BELIEVE... that's all you can do...Redgarl

At least I don't affirm I possess knowledge, while you ridiculously do.

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#143 FallofAthens
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[QUOTE="FallofAthens"]

What ever happened to good ol' fundraisers? Wait- well I guess you could call this the same thing, but without the bake sale.:P

Personally I think it's a shame that she thinks she has to self herself to get through life; or at least enough to get through school. Surely there must be an another way, but I don't understand what she's going to except from the people bidding. Brains, personailty? Does she except prince charming to come and sweep her off her feet and give her a 'good time?' i can't say I agree but hey, she's seems to have already made up her mind. I just hope she doesn't have any regrets after it's done.

Jandurin

Maybe she's just tired of feeling so pressured on dates. Now she won't have the V-card looming over her shoulder. :o

Exactly what does that imply? That after you lose your virginity you just have sex with all your dates?:?

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#144 XturnalS
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wow, who the hell would bid for this, She is hot and all but man sex with virgins suck, they just lay there and don't know what to do and u have to do all the work...

can't see the appeal...

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#145 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Exactly what does that imply? That after you lose your virginity you just have sex with all your dates?:?

FallofAthens
Yes. And before you have sex, you can't have sex with any of your dates.
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#146 curono
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[QUOTE="Decko5"]

video here

im lost

is this prostitution?

Yeah, that's prostitution. She's selling her body.

canary7

She was not selling. She rented...

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#147 Silenthps
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[QUOTE="Silenthps"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]Everyone has a price.

Oleg_Huzwog

no... atleast not for selling your body

Yes, even you have a price for that. Whether or not you're willing to admit it is an entirely different question.

Actually I wouldn't. Any ammount of money I get from doing that would be cursed by God. Finite, material things don't matter to me compared to eternal blessings. If God looks at me and see's me turn down a large sum of money in order to keep his commandments, I'm sure ill be rewarded in the next life.
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#148 DeeJayInphinity
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Shiro-kun"]

As I have said before, at least they work towards something a bit more important than a dude's boner.

Shiro-kun

Physical release/stress relief is big business. You saying that massage therapists have pointless jobs? Might as well get rid of them?

If you have an arm injury, or whatever's that's been causing you pain/stress, you don't go towards prostitution.

They actually are trained to know how to release some stressful points of your body.

Having sex feels good, but it won't heal you any pain, or whatever's. People can live without sex (technically), however, their body may take some time to get better without a therapist's help.

Are you serious? Jandurin did not mention broken arms. :? Sex releases stress as well..
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#149 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Actually I wouldn't. Any ammount of money I get from doing that would be cursed by God. Finite, material things don't matter to me compared to eternal blessings. If God looks at me and see's me turn down a large sum of money in order to keep his commandments, I'm sure ill be rewarded in the next life. Silenthps
what if they had your pet hostage :o
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#150 The_Ish
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Maybe you should read a bit more =)

Shiro-kun

I did. My claim stands. You defined prostitution as "not a proffession, but an act".

Here, from Merrium-Webster:

Prostitution

1: the act or practice of engaging in promiscuous sexual relations especially for money

It's not just an act, its a practice, in other words - a job.

It's a job and it's one that can earn you more money based on your clientele and reputation. It's a profession.