World War 3: Poland vs. Russia

Maybe in the beginning. But by the time that human reserves ran low (out of 34 million, approximately 24 million Soviet soldiers became casualties), he knew enough to use actual war technologies instead of just using human wave attacks. By the time the Soviets counterattacked at Stalingrad for example, they had about 2x as many tanks and 3x as many planes. That made all the difference.

jetpower3

Conflict is "settling down" in Georgia since the treaty has been signed, but they aren't the ones we should be watching. I'll give you a short history lesson:

Poland was an ally of France in WWII. Poland gets invaded, France comes to the rescue...France gets steam-rolled and then the U.S. joins in to protect France, our ally. WWII.

Okay. Now, any of you remember that not-very-well publicized event where Poland accepted the U.S. deal of installing an anti-missile system in the region? Well, we're telling everyone that it's because of Iran. Russia is claiming that it's because of their own country. So, if Russia feels threatened by this they could invade Poland (which wouldn't be difficult). The main reason Poland signed this contract is because, as part of the contract, if Poland is ever attacked we MUST come to their aid/rescue/assitance whatever you want to call it. That would mean fighting Russia. That's a possible WWIII.

It sounds unlikely, but all Russia has to do is send troops into Poland. THAT'S IT. Then we're stuck fighting in Iraq, which is sucking up most of our military equipment and funds AND we'd be fighting Russia who is a much more formidable enemy than a few Iraqi's with bombs strapped to their chests. Don't put it past Russia...but I'll let you form your own conclusions.

edgewalker16

Exactly Czort666. Poland fought alone with Germany and USRR. And later west countries left Poland and other east countries in dirty hands Stalin. Poland was an allien but lost war.Adrianpl

[QUOTE="surferdude17"]While that is very possible, it is also very unlikely. An invasion of Poland would not only spark a war with the US, but the rest of Europe would also go against Russia. Russia would be greatly outnumbered.argetlam00

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation

What was that you were saying about "outnumbered"

If China and India help Russia, then expect half the world's population to fall upon the US and Europe.Bigg_Boi

Add Australia to the US and Europe. Most countries who oppose Europe or the USA have small, disorganized armies. The US has a very coherent and tight as a unit armed force, as do most prime countries in the EU.

India has a very weak armed force btw.

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[QUOTE="surferdude17"]While that is very possible, it is also very unlikely. An invasion of Poland would not only spark a war with the US, but the rest of Europe would also go against Russia. Russia would be greatly outnumbered.Jacobistheman

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation

What was that you were saying about "outnumbered"

Haha, as of right now, the Chinese economy own 14-20% of the US economy, so no, your logic fails. (That 20% is debt money, not actual equity or credit in most cases)

If China pull out of the US... Oh ho ho, that's thought not worth thinking about.

Poland has historically been the battle ground between Europe and Russia. It always gets the unfortunate role of being "stuck" in the middle. If Russia wanted to be troublesome they could easily roll into Europe. The bleeding-heart libertarian perspective of most European nations would not be able to withstand the onslaught that has always been the Russian military. The only real threat to Russia would be their historical nemesis Germany. Germany is the country that holds the Russian beast at bay...not the States.Joystick_n_hand

Russia would only be able to invade eastern parts of Europe but there advices would be smashed by the Armies of Germany France & the UK on top of that Russia will have know control over the sea the Royal Navy would make sure of that overall Russia would be out numbered .

Thats why having allies is so troublesome

Thats why having allies is so troublesome

vidplayer8

[QUOTE="Jacobistheman"][QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="surferdude17"]While that is very possible, it is also very unlikely. An invasion of Poland would not only spark a war with the US, but the rest of Europe would also go against Russia. Russia would be greatly outnumbered.KOTORkicker

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation

What was that you were saying about "outnumbered"

Haha, as of right now, the Chinese economy own 14-20% of the US economy, so no, your logic fails. (That 20% is debt money, not actual equity or credit in most cases)

If China pull out of the US... Oh ho ho, that's thought not worth thinking about.

[QUOTE="KOTORkicker"][QUOTE="Jacobistheman"][QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="surferdude17"]While that is very possible, it is also very unlikely. An invasion of Poland would not only spark a war with the US, but the rest of Europe would also go against Russia. Russia would be greatly outnumbered.Dasacant

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation

What was that you were saying about "outnumbered"

Haha, as of right now, the Chinese economy own 14-20% of the US economy, so no, your logic fails. (That 20% is debt money, not actual equity or credit in most cases)

If China pull out of the US... Oh ho ho, that's thought not worth thinking about.

yep but also know more cheap products for Americans .

yep but also know more cheap products for Americans .

snakes_codec

While that is very possible, it is also very unlikely. An invasion of Poland would not only spark a war with the US, but the rest of Europe would also go against Russia.surferdude17

Yeah I agree.

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yep but also know more cheap products for Americans .

Dasacant

agreed that's why i think it foolish when people say if anyone goes to war with Russia China will join and totally rape who ever there fighting at the end of the day if Russia went to war with Poland China isn't going to get involved because they wouldn't want to cut trading agreements with Countries who are are richer than Russia like USA UK France Germany etc .

So the U.S. can built the anti missile base near Russia, but why can't Russia build one besides the U.S.? Double standards, Russia has the right to disagree.ab-1205

I don't think that Russia has anything to worry about anti-missile bases. It's not like it would even be tactical to use them unless there was a nuclear missile strike. It's not like the Cuban Missile Crisis or anything, because in that situation there were real nuclear missiles being deployed on Cuba, which could have been a major, major threat with Cuba's unknown intentions. Trust me, the situation is quite different.

The US and the rest of Europe would help us kick Russia's arses, and I'm sure we'd be prepared to withdraw from Iraq to fight off a more serious threat.

NATO is greater than any other possible military alliance. It's just a fact. We have the numbers and the technology. Russia just couldn't win, even with China. Just France alone rivals Russia in military spending and even more so in technology.

Over the past century, all the major threats to American military supremacy have been eliminated i.e. USSR, Germany and Japan. And as of now, the Chinese economy is simply not prosperous or independent enough to challenge NATO.

Conflict is "settling down" in Georgia since the treaty has been signed, but they aren't the ones we should be watching. I'll give you a short history lesson:

Poland was an ally of France in WWII. Poland gets invaded, France comes to the rescue...France gets steam-rolled and then the U.S. joins in to protect France, our ally. WWII.

Okay. Now, any of you remember that not-very-well publicized event where Poland accepted the U.S. deal of installing an anti-missile system in the region? Well, we're telling everyone that it's because of Iran. Russia is claiming that it's because of their own country. So, if Russia feels threatened by this they could invade Poland (which wouldn't be difficult). The main reason Poland signed this contract is because, as part of the contract, if Poland is ever attacked we MUST come to their aid/rescue/assitance whatever you want to call it. That would mean fighting Russia. That's a possible WWIII.

It sounds unlikely, but all Russia has to do is send troops into Poland. THAT'S IT. Then we're stuck fighting in Iraq, which is sucking up most of our military equipment and funds AND we'd be fighting Russia who is a much more formidable enemy than a few Iraqi's with bombs strapped to their chests. Don't put it past Russia...but I'll let you form your own conclusions.

edgewalker16

Exactly, Russia fears the Poland will frame Russia on attacking them just like Georgia. Poland needs to build their own defense, not a defense system that could be wireless and connected to another part of the world. They don't want a WW3. So do we..

I doubt WWIII will happen because of something like thisAndYOU

WWI happened because one guy was assasinated...

[QUOTE="Joystick_n_hand"]Poland has historically been the battle ground between Europe and Russia. It always gets the unfortunate role of being "stuck" in the middle. If Russia wanted to be troublesome they could easily roll into Europe. The bleeding-heart libertarian perspective of most European nations would not be able to withstand the onslaught that has always been the Russian military. The only real threat to Russia would be their historical nemesis Germany. Germany is the country that holds the Russian beast at bay...not the States.snakes_codec

Russia would only be able to invade eastern parts of Europe but there advices would be smashed by the Armies of Germany France & the UK on top of that Russia will have know control over the sea the Royal Navy would make sure of that overall Russia would be out numbered .

[QUOTE="AndYOU"]I doubt WWIII will happen because of something like thisDA_B0MB

WWI happened because one guy was assasinated...