Worst plot hole you've ever read or seen?

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#1 GreySeal9
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I'd have to say that the silliest plot hole I've ever experienced was in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, both the film and the book.

So basically, Voldemort wants this prophecy (and only the people who can touch are those about whom it was made) but he doesn't want to reveal himself because he loves that the Ministry is being so ignorant about his return. So he devises a plan to get Harry to retrieve the prophecy (which is in the form of an orb) for him, so that he doesn't risk being caught. So he does a bit of mental trickery on Harry, so that he goes to the Ministry thinking that he is saving his godfather who is supposedy being tortured. However, his godfather is not at the Ministry at all. Voldemort planted the vision of him being tortured in Harry's head to lure him to the prophecy that he wants so badly.

So where's the plot hole?

When Harry gets to the Ministry, there is NO SECURITY! He just walks into Minstry and then continues his leisurely stroll into the Department of Mysteries (where the prophecy is) with as little resistance as somebody walking into their own bathroom.

So basically Voldemort devises this plan on the basis of not wanting to be detected and Harry just walks in there and doesn't encounter a single guard. It was ridiculous. Basically, Voldemort could have just went in there and got it himself with no trouble since there was no security.

I just can't see how a plothole that large got past her and the editors. Why didn't anybody see how weird and nonsensical it was for there to be no security?

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#2 GeForce2187
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I'll let Stewie from Family Guy sum it up in this clip.
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#3 v13_KiiLtz
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#4 GreySeal9
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@ v13_KiiLtz

LOL.

Funny and true. It seems that alot of books/movies create plot holes by coming up convoluted ways of solving simple problems (for the sake of having a story).

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#5 chessmaster1989
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v13_KiiLtz

Much as I enjoyed Inception, this is so true. :P

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#6 Avian005
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v13_KiiLtz

:lol:

Anyways, it would be illegal to do that, so...

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#7 CoolSkAGuy
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Lord of the Rings. walking trees WTF?
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#8 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="v13_KiiLtz"]

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Avian005

:lol:

Anyways, it would be illegal to do that, so...

Well, I imagine that infiltrating someone's mind would be even more illegal.

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#9 Avian005
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[QUOTE="Avian005"]

[QUOTE="v13_KiiLtz"]

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:lol:

Anyways, it would be illegal to do that, so...

Well, I imagine that infiltrating someone's mind would be even more illegal if that was really possible.

Yeah, but Michael Caine still wouldn't be able to fly the kids to france anyways. Two wrongs don't make a right.

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#10 curono
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Lord of the Rings. walking trees WTF?CoolSkAGuy
THEY ARE CALLED ENTS! And That is no plot hole! You insult my nerdom! PS. Biggest one I can think of is: WHY the hell EDWARD CULLEN AND BELLA SWAN FELL IN LOVE? Because they talked of mitosis in class for 3 minutes?? Because she saw him play baseball for one inning?? EXPLAIN MOVIE!! EXPLAIN!!
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#11 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Avian005"]:lol:

Anyways, it would be illegal to do that, so...

Avian005

Well, I imagine that infiltrating someone's mind would be even more illegal if that was really possible.

Yeah, but Michael Caine still wouldn't be able to fly the kids to france anyways. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Why couldn't he fly the kids to France?

Also, it is not a question of two wrongs making a right. It is a choice between two wrongs. One really convoluted dangerous wrong and one relatively simple, semi-dangerous wrong.

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Inception. The entire movie was a hole.
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#13 Wolfetan
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That inception thing is wrong.

The grandma wouldnt allow it cause she hated Cobb, and Caines character wouldnt do it. He was hesitant to even just tell Cobb the first and last name of his best student.

Boom! Owned!

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[QUOTE="CoolSkAGuy"]Lord of the Rings. walking trees WTF?curono
THEY ARE CALLED ENTS! And That is no plot hole! You insult my nerdom! PS. Biggest one I can think of is: WHY the hell EDWARD CULLEN AND BELLA SWAN FELL IN LOVE? Because they talked of mitosis in class for 3 minutes?? Because she saw him play baseball for one inning?? EXPLAIN MOVIE!! EXPLAIN!!

I didn't watch Twilight the movie because I couldn't even finish the book (yes, I did try reading it to see what all the fuss about) because it was pretty bad.

But in the book, I had exactly the same reaction. They fell in love in such a ridiculously "instant" way that I was wondering if both them had mental issues.

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#15 v13_KiiLtz
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[QUOTE="curono"]THEY ARE CALLED ENTS! And That is no plot hole! You insult my nerdom! PS. Biggest one I can think of is: WHY the hell EDWARD CULLEN AND BELLA SWAN FELL IN LOVE? Because they talked of mitosis in class for 3 minutes?? Because she saw him play baseball for one inning?? EXPLAIN MOVIE!! EXPLAIN!!

He sparkles, obv. Also Alice was hawwt.
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#16 curono
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[QUOTE="curono"][QUOTE="CoolSkAGuy"]Lord of the Rings. walking trees WTF?GreySeal9

THEY ARE CALLED ENTS! And That is no plot hole! You insult my nerdom! PS. Biggest one I can think of is: WHY the hell EDWARD CULLEN AND BELLA SWAN FELL IN LOVE? Because they talked of mitosis in class for 3 minutes?? Because she saw him play baseball for one inning?? EXPLAIN MOVIE!! EXPLAIN!!

I didn't watch Twilight the movie because I couldn't even finish the book (yes, I did try reading it to see what all the fuss about) because it was pretty bad.

But in the book, I had exactly the same reaction. They fell in love in such a ridiculously "instant" way that I was wondering if both them had mental issues.

And you know what is the worst part?? I think that THAT plot hole was made intentionally, and it is the premise that starts and moves the whole series.....
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OK, maybe this is a plot hole that can get blasted by a star wars fan, but how about Star Wars: A New Hope.

The very beginning when C3PO and R2 escape in a pod, and the stormtrooper prevents the other from shooting it because 'Only droids are detected' (to paraphrase)

Why would them being droids make him think any different? We see how advanced the droids are in that universe.

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#18 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="curono"] THEY ARE CALLED ENTS! And That is no plot hole! You insult my nerdom! PS. Biggest one I can think of is: WHY the hell EDWARD CULLEN AND BELLA SWAN FELL IN LOVE? Because they talked of mitosis in class for 3 minutes?? Because she saw him play baseball for one inning?? EXPLAIN MOVIE!! EXPLAIN!!curono

I didn't watch Twilight the movie because I couldn't even finish the book (yes, I did try reading it to see what all the fuss about) because it was pretty bad.

But in the book, I had exactly the same reaction. They fell in love in such a ridiculously "instant" way that I was wondering if both them had mental issues.

And you know what is the worst part?? I think that THAT plot hole was made intentionally, and it is the premise that starts and moves the whole series.....

Yeah, it definitely might have been intentional, thought it could be that the author has a juvenile idea of falling in love.

But it definitely is pretty much the pillar of the story. The quickness of their relationship pretty much cheapens the whole thing.

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OK, maybe this is a plot hole that can get blasted by a star wars fan, but how about Star Wars: A New Hope.

The very beginning when C3PO and R2 escape in a pod, and the stormtrooper prevents the other from shooting it because 'Only droids are detected' (to paraphrase)

Why would them being droids make him think any different? We see how advanced the droids are in that universe.

flazzle
He actually says "hold your fire, there's no life forms aboard, it must have short-circuited."
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Ending of the first pokemon movie were Ash is turned to stone and dies.

Then the pokemon tears bring him back to life:?

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[QUOTE="flazzle"]

OK, maybe this is a plot hole that can get blasted by a star wars fan, but how about Star Wars: A New Hope.

The very beginning when C3PO and R2 escape in a pod, and the stormtrooper prevents the other from shooting it because 'Only droids are detected' (to paraphrase)

Why would them being droids make him think any different? We see how advanced the droids are in that universe.

GeForce2187

He actually says "hold your fire, there's no life forms aboard, it must have short-circuited."

"Hold your fire?" What? Are we paying by the laser now?

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#23 Avian005
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Ending of the first pokemon movie were Ash is turned to stone and dies.

Then the pokemon tears bring him back to life:?

dercoo

Then they all learn that making Pokemon fight is wrong and from now on they would never do it again. Too bad Mewtwo decides to erase all their memories aboutthis incidentthat we the audiencehad to sit through! :x

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#24 GreySeal9
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Ending of the first pokemon movie were Ash is turned to stone and dies.

Then the pokemon tears bring him back to life:?

dercoo

I think that's more of a deus ex machina moment than a plot hole, but I agree that it was really dumb.

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#25 flazzle
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[QUOTE="flazzle"]

OK, maybe this is a plot hole that can get blasted by a star wars fan, but how about Star Wars: A New Hope.

The very beginning when C3PO and R2 escape in a pod, and the stormtrooper prevents the other from shooting it because 'Only droids are detected' (to paraphrase)

Why would them being droids make him think any different? We see how advanced the droids are in that universe.

GeForce2187

He actually says "hold your fire, there's no life forms aboard, it must have short-circuited."

I could have sworn the word droids was mentioned, but you seem pretty exact.

that being said, if you are searching an entity for secret plans, you don't let something leave the premises. Just like a junkie flusihng the drugs down the toilet when busted.

But, if what you say is true, its not a plot hole but 2 really stupid stormtroopers.

And really. What is with that stormtrooper. 'Must have short-circuited.'? What is he? A circuit specialist now? The ship was being attacked and boarded. Isn't it 1000% more likely someone launched it on purpose? Why bother holding fire? Is the budget tight on lasers? That's the dumbest trooper ever.

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#26 vidplayer8
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[QUOTE="v13_KiiLtz"]

chessmaster1989

Much as I enjoyed Inception, this is so true. :P

Michael Caine is his father. But the woman taking care of his kids, the women who is the parental guardian would never let them fly to france.

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Why didn't Frodo fly on the back of the eagles to mount doom?
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#28 flazzle
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How about whenLuke asks Leia if she remembers her real mother. Leia replies that her mother died when she was very young, but she was "very beautiful. Kind, but...sad."

I HIGHLY doubt Luke gave a crap about Leia's step mom, but that is what die hard fans will cling to

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#29 JPOBS
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OK, maybe this is a plot hole that can get blasted by a star wars fan, but how about Star Wars: A New Hope.

The very beginning when C3PO and R2 escape in a pod, and the stormtrooper prevents the other from shooting it because 'Only droids are detected' (to paraphrase)

Why would them being droids make him think any different? We see how advanced the droids are in that universe.

flazzle
he doesn't say "theres only droids" he says something more along the lines of "theres no sentient life in that pod" or something which is completely different. he just assumed it was empty.
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War of the Worlds. How did Robbie, the boy who wanted to join the army, manage to get home in Boston when he should have been vaporized by the aliens? I mean, those machines were killing the army he decided to follow...
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How about whenLuke asks Leia if she remembers her real mother. Leia replies that her mother died when she was very young, but she was "very beautiful. Kind, but...sad."

I HIGHLY doubt Luke gave a crap about Leia's step mom, but that is what die hard fans will cling to

flazzle
Maybe she was thinking that her stepmother was her real mother O_O But seriously, that was a really lame plot element.
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#32 flazzle
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[QUOTE="flazzle"]

OK, maybe this is a plot hole that can get blasted by a star wars fan, but how about Star Wars: A New Hope.

The very beginning when C3PO and R2 escape in a pod, and the stormtrooper prevents the other from shooting it because 'Only droids are detected' (to paraphrase)

Why would them being droids make him think any different? We see how advanced the droids are in that universe.

JPOBS

he doesn't say "theres only droids" he says something more along the lines of "theres no sentient life in that pod" or something which is completely different. he just assumed it was empty.

And it never occurs to him there just MIGHT be androids on board? Was he new the universe or what? I swear, i think there are droids than living things in those movies at times.

"Hey, we are trying to find something hidden on that ship."

"there goes an escape pod!"

"It could never be in there! It just wouldn't make sense! Don't shoot it. Let it go! We've done enough violence for the day!"

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#33 flazzle
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[QUOTE="flazzle"]

How about whenLuke asks Leia if she remembers her real mother. Leia replies that her mother died when she was very young, but she was "very beautiful. Kind, but...sad."

I HIGHLY doubt Luke gave a crap about Leia's step mom, but that is what die hard fans will cling to

curono

Maybe she was thinking that her stepmother was her real mother O_O But seriously, that was a really lame plot element.

It's just Lucas making up stuff as he goes long.

The original novelization before those wonderful prequels has the birth mother still alive.

http://scifi.about.com/od/starwarsglossaryandfaq/a/SWAR_leia-remembers-mother.htm

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#34 JPOBS
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[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="flazzle"]

OK, maybe this is a plot hole that can get blasted by a star wars fan, but how about Star Wars: A New Hope.

The very beginning when C3PO and R2 escape in a pod, and the stormtrooper prevents the other from shooting it because 'Only droids are detected' (to paraphrase)

Why would them being droids make him think any different? We see how advanced the droids are in that universe.

flazzle

he doesn't say "theres only droids" he says something more along the lines of "theres no sentient life in that pod" or something which is completely different. he just assumed it was empty.

And it never occurs to him there just MIGHT be androids on board? Was he new the universe or what? I swear, i think there are droids than living things in those movies at times.

"Hey, we are trying to find something hidden on that ship."

"there goes an escape pod!"

"It could never be in there! It just wouldn't make sense! Don't shoot it. Let it go! We've done enough violence for the day!"

Seems like your grasping for straws after being proven wrong. A character having a misconception about something in the movie or making a mistake isn't at all like a plot hole. its ok, try to rationalize it in whichever way makes you feel better.
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[QUOTE="curono"][QUOTE="flazzle"]

How about whenLuke asks Leia if she remembers her real mother. Leia replies that her mother died when she was very young, but she was "very beautiful. Kind, but...sad."

I HIGHLY doubt Luke gave a crap about Leia's step mom, but that is what die hard fans will cling to

flazzle

Maybe she was thinking that her stepmother was her real mother O_O But seriously, that was a really lame plot element.

It's just Lucas making up stuff as he goes long.

The original novelization before those wonderful prequels has the birth mother still alive.

http://scifi.about.com/od/starwarsglossaryandfaq/a/SWAR_leia-remembers-mother.htm

I will not argue against that. Something happened to lucas in the 80's that fried 99% of his brain. *cof, cof, re-re-re-re-release in 3d *
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I hate to be the one to say it. But if you read the book carefully they state that it must be Harry who picks up the prophecy - as it is his after all.

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Why didn't Frodo fly on the back of the eagles to mount doom?Head_of_games
Aww come on, a simple search will tell you multiple scenarios of why they couldn't

http://www.sean-crist.com/personal/pages/eagles/index.html

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100127091836AAUP81F

:P

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Why didn't Frodo fly on the back of the eagles to mount doom?Head_of_games
This.
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In the 6th Sense, nobody seems to notice or care that the kid is always alone and always talks to himself.

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lol the time turner in Harry Potter. Introducing that was like introducing an invincible life cheat. It literally could have been used in any movie to literally solve every problem.

Also why did Harry have to compete in the tri wizard tournament. He could have just forfeit every challenge. And why does Harry have to do everything what the f*** is Dumbledore doing.

And why say Dumbledore is gay This literally had nothing to do with the books and nothing to do with the story.

And why is Harry Potter even the chosen one or anythings special. He really doesnt do anything great or extraordinary, most the time he gets lucky, unknowingly lead by a mentor, or help from his friends. And what he does do he just happened to learn in class the week before, its not as if hes some powerful wizard.

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in the 6th sense how did bruce get in the kids house?

pretty much every other 10 minutes of twighlight

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[QUOTE="curono"] THEY ARE CALLED ENTS! And That is no plot hole! You insult my nerdom! PS. Biggest one I can think of is: WHY the hell EDWARD CULLEN AND BELLA SWAN FELL IN LOVE? Because they talked of mitosis in class for 3 minutes?? Because she saw him play baseball for one inning?? EXPLAIN MOVIE!! EXPLAIN!!

I do think it was Bella's smell that did it for Edward... "my type of heroin", doesn't he say something like that?
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I do think it was Bella's smell that did it for Edward... horgen123

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*Spoilers* The end of 2012. The tsunamis are all crystal clear water and John Cusack goes swimming through it, outside of the ship where the water is strong enough to throw planes and aircraft carriers around but he can swim just fine. He single-handedly frees a wire tangled around like a 1 million ton gear. Holds his breath for like 7 minutes. His wife / son / chinese people are all in the sealed off chamber where the water is coming in, but it never drowns them. However, the russian chick in the next chamber over, which is sealed, drowns from rising water coming from who knows where. Lots of problems with the end of that movie.
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[QUOTE="horgen123"] I do think it was Bella's smell that did it for Edward... villa4europe

*pic*

I wonder... how?
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#48 charlesdarwin55
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"Assassins" Creed: Brotherhood. BY FAR

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#49 Theokhoth
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"Assassins" Creed: Brotherhood. BY FAR

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What was the plot hole there? Or are you talking about the book?
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#50 majrankin
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I'd have to say that the silliest plot hole I've ever experienced was in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, both the film and the book.

So basically, Voldemort wants this prophecy (and only the people who can touch are those about whom it was made) but he doesn't want to reveal himself because he loves that the Ministry is being so ignorant about his return. So he devises a plan to get Harry to retrieve the prophecy (which is in the form of an orb) for him, so that he doesn't risk being caught. So he does a bit of mental trickery on Harry, so that he goes to the Ministry thinking that he is saving his godfather who is supposedy being tortured. However, his godfather is not at the Ministry at all. Voldemort planted the vision of him being tortured in Harry's head to lure him to the prophecy that he wants so badly.

So where's the plot hole?

When Harry gets to the Ministry, there is NO SECURITY! He just walks into Minstry and then continues his leisurely stroll into the Department of Mysteries (where the prophecy is) with as little resistance as somebody walking into their own bathroom.

So basically Voldemort devises this plan on the basis of not wanting to be detected and Harry just walks in there and doesn't encounter a single guard. It was ridiculous. Basically, Voldemort could have just went in there and got it himself with no trouble since there was no security.

I just can't see how a plothole that large got past her and the editors. Why didn't anybody see how weird and nonsensical it was for there to be no security?

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Well the Ministry of Magic in Order of the Phoenix was going goofbally with Fudge going crazy over losing his job. Probalby too busy spending people to bust down Potter and Dumbledore than to actually do work. I dunno, it was late at night, and security did come with Dumbledore and Voldermort finished fighting.