How about the plot hole on COD4/MW2 where cpt.Price dies in COD4 then is somehow brought back to life in MW2.Nick3306
He didn't die in COD4.
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[QUOTE="Agent-Zero"]Maybe he had his Invisibility Cloak?v13_KiiLtz
Harry didn't wear it on that particular occasion. And also, he had five other people with him. They couldn't all fit under an invisibility cloak.
Not a plot hole.>Only two people can take the prophecy.
>Prophecy goes missing
>Oh noes, but Harry's still at school!
>Who took it then? Not Voldermort because he's dead!
The plot hole has to do with the lack of security. There's no logical reason that there should be no security at the Ministry, especially since Voldemort doesn't want to go near the Ministry because he fears detetction. No security undermines JKR's insistence that the prophecy is difficult to obtain.
[QUOTE="Hatiko"][QUOTE="Nick3306"]How about the plot hole on COD4/MW2 where cpt.Price dies in COD4 then is somehow brought back to life in MW2.Nick3306
He didn't die in COD4.
You watch him die, you see the guy trying to revive him give up, so yes, he does die.And he was revived, obviously.You watch him die, you see the guy trying to revive him give up, so yes, he does die.And he was revived, obviously.He clearly dies, IW just wanted to bring him back and hoped everyone didn't pay attention that closely.[QUOTE="Nick3306"][QUOTE="Hatiko"]
He didn't die in COD4.
Avian005
First one I agree Second one, he's magically bound to compete? It doesn't had to the story and wasn't in the books so doesn't matter Harry is special because Voldemort made him special. He heard the prophecy, and tried to kill Harry when he was a baby, thus making the prophecy true.[QUOTE="Agent-Zero"][QUOTE="Jolt_counter119"]
lol the time turner in Harry Potter. Introducing that was like introducing an invincible life cheat. It literally could have been used in any movie to literally solve every problem.
Also why did Harry have to compete in the tri wizard tournament. He could have just forfeit every challenge. And why does Harry have to do everything what the f*** is Dumbledore doing.
And why say Dumbledore is gay This literally had nothing to do with the books and nothing to do with the story.
And why is Harry Potter even the chosen one or anythings special. He really doesnt do anything great or extraordinary, most the time he gets lucky, unknowingly lead by a mentor, or help from his friends. And what he does do he just happened to learn in class the week before, its not as if hes some powerful wizard.
Jolt_counter119
first one I agree
second one: True but I meant forfeit as in walk in and give up in seconds. He didnt literally have to try his hardest to win every challenge when he said he didnt want to compete. He could have walked in and then walked out.
Fourth one yeah but I meant in a more wizardly sense. Like it would have been cool he Harry was actually a powerful wizard to take on the most powerful and evil Voldemort but he wasnt really that great and the last battle was such a let down. As if Rowling was like "f*** I need to end the series....um alright ill just come up with a quick little victory for Harry with little retaliation"
The first one is true for the first 3 movies/books but I'm pretty sure in the movie at least (probably the book too) they say the ministry destroyed all of them, thus trying to cover up the hole :P[QUOTE="Avian005"]And he was revived, obviously.He clearly dies, IW just wanted to bring him back and hoped everyone didn't pay attention that closely.[QUOTE="Nick3306"]You watch him die, you see the guy trying to revive him give up, so yes, he does die.Nick3306
Last week, two teens got struck by lightning. Their hearts stopped for 30 MINUTES. They survived.
He did not clearly die.
[QUOTE="Avian005"]And he was revived, obviously.He clearly dies, IW just wanted to bring him back and hoped everyone didn't pay attention that closely.[QUOTE="Nick3306"]You watch him die, you see the guy trying to revive him give up, so yes, he does die.Nick3306
No, the guy tried for like 2 seconds, started pounding and gave up.
1. CPR isn't the way to help someone with a gunshot wound
2. Nobody checked if he was breathing or if he had a heart beat
3. He could have been helped later
4. We never actually see him die, watching some random soldier's poor attempt at CPR on someone who didn't need it isn't confirmation on anything
5. Thinking someone dies and then watching them come back in asequel isn't a plot hole, it's a twist, this has been done in movies a bunch of times (they usually don't come back in the sequel but in the same movie)
I hate to be the one to say it. But if you read the book carefully they state that it must be Harry who picks up the prophecy - as it is his after all.
AndyWilliams24
I was about to type this lol.
He clearly dies, IW just wanted to bring him back and hoped everyone didn't pay attention that closely.[QUOTE="Nick3306"][QUOTE="Avian005"]And he was revived, obviously.
Hatiko
No, the guy tried for like 2 seconds, started pounding and gave up.
1. CPR isn't the way to help someone with a gunshot wound
2. Nobody checked if he was breathing or if he had a heart beat
3. He could have been helped later
4. We never actually see him die, watching some random soldier's poor attempt at CPR on someone who didn't need it isn't confirmation on anything
5. Thinking someone dies and then watching them come back in asequel isn't a plot hole, it's a twist, this has been done in movies a bunch of times (they usually don't come back in the sequel but in the same movie)
Why have none of you mentioned that Cpt. Price is also in World War 2 during CoD 2? The guy is clearly immortal.I hate to be the one to say it. But if you read the book carefully they state that it must be Harry who picks up the prophecy - as it is his after all.
AndyWilliams24
Even if this is correct, how does this change what I said? The plot hole is the lack of security and the stated reason for Voldemort not going after himself was that he didn't want to alert the Ministry to his existence?
What logical reason is there that Harry could simply stroll into the Department of Mysteries?
And also, the book does state that the only ones that can touch the prophecy are those about whom it was made. That includes Voldemort.
[QUOTE="AndyWilliams24"]
I hate to be the one to say it. But if you read the book carefully they state that it must be Harry who picks up the prophecy - as it is his after all.
catfishmoon23
I was about to type this lol.
The book says that the people about whom it is made can pick it up. That includes Harry, Neville and Voldemort.
Even so, I clearly stated that the plothole was the lack of security. How does it make sense that there is no security at the Ministry, especially after JRK insisted that the prophecy was well guarded?
[QUOTE="Hatiko"]
[QUOTE="Nick3306"]He clearly dies, IW just wanted to bring him back and hoped everyone didn't pay attention that closely.cd_rom
No, the guy tried for like 2 seconds, started pounding and gave up.
1. CPR isn't the way to help someone with a gunshot wound
2. Nobody checked if he was breathing or if he had a heart beat
3. He could have been helped later
4. We never actually see him die, watching some random soldier's poor attempt at CPR on someone who didn't need it isn't confirmation on anything
5. Thinking someone dies and then watching them come back in asequel isn't a plot hole, it's a twist, this has been done in movies a bunch of times (they usually don't come back in the sequel but in the same movie)
Why have none of you mentioned that Cpt. Price is also in World War 2 during CoD 2? The guy is clearly immortal.Capt. Price is like Patterson in MOH. The CP in Cod2 isn;t the same on in mw1 and 2 like the patterson in Frontlines isn't the same one in the new MoH and all of the other ones he was in.
Why have none of you mentioned that Cpt. Price is also in World War 2 during CoD 2? The guy is clearly immortal.[QUOTE="cd_rom"]
[QUOTE="Hatiko"]
No, the guy tried for like 2 seconds, started pounding and gave up.
1. CPR isn't the way to help someone with a gunshot wound
2. Nobody checked if he was breathing or if he had a heart beat
3. He could have been helped later
4. We never actually see him die, watching some random soldier's poor attempt at CPR on someone who didn't need it isn't confirmation on anything
5. Thinking someone dies and then watching them come back in asequel isn't a plot hole, it's a twist, this has been done in movies a bunch of times (they usually don't come back in the sequel but in the same movie)
Hatiko
Capt. Price is like Patterson in MOH. The CP in Cod2 isn;t the same on in mw1 and 2 like the patterson in Frontlines isn't the same one in the new MoH and all of the other ones he was in.
By that logic, it's possible the Price in MW2 isn't the same one in MW1. hmm.....[QUOTE="Hatiko"][QUOTE="cd_rom"] Why have none of you mentioned that Cpt. Price is also in World War 2 during CoD 2? The guy is clearly immortal.
cd_rom
Capt. Price is like Patterson in MOH. The CP in Cod2 isn;t the same on in mw1 and 2 like the patterson in Frontlines isn't the same one in the new MoH and all of the other ones he was in.
By that logic, it's possible the Price in MW2 isn't the same one in MW1. hmm.....Well the fact that MW2 is a direct sequel to MW1 says otherwise.
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[QUOTE="AndyWilliams24"]
I hate to be the one to say it. But if you read the book carefully they state that it must be Harry who picks up the prophecy - as it is his after all.
GreySeal9
I was about to type this lol.
The book says that the people about whom it is made can pick it up. That includes Harry, Neville and Voldemort.
Even so, I clearly stated that the plothole was the lack of security. How does it make sense that there is no security at the Ministry, especially after JRK insisted that the prophecy was well guarded?
Why did you have to bring this up? Now I'm going to be wondering about it all the time now. :P
It's interesting because the order was definitely guarding the place (as evidenced by Arthur Weasely and his being attacked by Nagini). There must be an explanation though. Have you asked this question in a HP forum? I'm sure some interesting theories could be concocted by the community.
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[QUOTE="catfishmoon23"]
I was about to type this lol.
catfishmoon23
The book says that the people about whom it is made can pick it up. That includes Harry, Neville and Voldemort.
Even so, I clearly stated that the plothole was the lack of security. How does it make sense that there is no security at the Ministry, especially after JRK insisted that the prophecy was well guarded?
Why did you have to bring this up? Now I'm going to be wondering about it all the time now. :P
It's interesting because the order was definitely guarding the place (as evidenced by Arthur Weasely and his being attacked by Nagini). There must be an explanation though. Have you asked this question in a HP forum? I'm sure some interesting theories could be concocted by the community.
I stopped going to HP forums a long time ago. The fans were too aggressive, but I think it might be interesting to try to ask JK Rowling herself. She sometimes answers those kind of questions.
[QUOTE="Head_of_games"]Why didn't Frodo fly on the back of the eagles to mount doom?LightRMade me remember, but why did Gandlaf need to stand on the bridge? The Balrog couldn't pass either way. The balrog could have passed, he had wings to help himslef over the gap, plus the brudge was weakend when gandalf struck it. Also gandalf needed to stirke down such a thing from the world. And to answer theTom Bombadil question post, all it would have done was delay the ineviatable, Sauron was getting stronger, and even Tom can't keep the entire forces of Mordor at bay. Also stated was tom didn't participate in wordly matters.
Not a plot hole.[QUOTE="v13_KiiLtz"]
[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]
Harry didn't wear it on that particular occasion. And also, he had five other people with him. They couldn't all fit under an invisibility cloak.
GreySeal9
>Only two people can take the prophecy.
>Prophecy goes missing
>Oh noes, but Harry's still at school!
>Who took it then? Not Voldermort because he's dead!
The plot hole has to do with the lack of security. There's no logical reason that there should be no security at the Ministry, especially since Voldemort doesn't want to go near the Ministry because he fears detetction. No security undermines JKR's insistence that the prophecy is difficult to obtain.
It still isn't a plot hole. It just isn't explained. If anything, the lack of security (which Harry does notice) should be an indicator that it's a trap. Let's not forget that the Death Eaters were waiting for him. As for the Order guarding it, they couldn't because they didn't have an invisibility cloak as Arthur lost it during his attack and Moody couldn't find his spare. A real plot hole is something like when James Potter saved Snapes life (supposedly 16 in the third book but another year in the third).That really annoys me. His "disguise" consists of a pair of spectacles and hair gel.Are the people in metropolis blind?Why does nobody recognize clark kent?
LostProphetFLCL
[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]That really annoys me. His "disguise" consists of a pair of spectacles and hair gel.Are the people in metropolis blind? Hair gel works wonders.Why does nobody recognize clark kent?
call_of_duty_10
[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]That really annoys me. His "disguise" consists of a pair of spectacles and hair gel.Are the people in metropolis blind? Over the years DC came up with various reasons why people didn't recognize Clark as Superman before they just settled for it to be a result of suspension of disbelief. At this point you would have to use suspension of disbelief since technology has advanced so much since the 30s any number of facial recognition programs would have matched Clark to Superman by now. Hell, they had a drone tracking Superman in Man of Steel.Why does nobody recognize clark kent?
call_of_duty_10
Another big plot hole: The Lost World Jurassic Park.
What in God's name murdered the crew of that ship? The T-Rex had no way of getting in those small corridors and eating the drivers and such.
I do know that they DID have a planned scene to explain it, but they took it out and replaced it with nothing so what we are left with is one of the most glaring plot holes I have ever seen once you notice it.
compys? they tore up that one dude in the jungle.Another big plot hole: The Lost World Jurassic Park.
What in God's name murdered the crew of that ship? The T-Rex had no way of getting in those small corridors and eating the drivers and such.
I do know that they DID have a planned scene to explain it, but they took it out and replaced it with nothing so what we are left with is one of the most glaring plot holes I have ever seen once you notice it.
LostProphetFLCL
[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]compys? they tore up that one dude in the jungle.Another big plot hole: The Lost World Jurassic Park.
What in God's name murdered the crew of that ship? The T-Rex had no way of getting in those small corridors and eating the drivers and such.
I do know that they DID have a planned scene to explain it, but they took it out and replaced it with nothing so what we are left with is one of the most glaring plot holes I have ever seen once you notice it.
Allicrombie
Apparently the original plan was raptors, but the took it out and left literally NO explaination as to what happens. It's as if no one cares that this whole crew of people just got freaking mauled to death...
I always wondered why the eagles didn't fly them there.Lord of The Rings. They bring those hobbit boys through hell just to go toss a piece of metal in a volcano when that super-powerful, super-lazy old wizard could have teleported there and do it himself.
Wii4Fun
Looper - SPOILERS AHEAD (Just in case you don't know what spoiler tags mean :P )
Ok, so the entire concept is pretty cool. Time travel has been invented in the future but is outlawed, but the mob, some how has the experties and money to make their own time travel apparatus. So the mob being what it is, it uses time machines to send people it wants killed back to the past so they can be killed by hired assassins in the past known as "Loopers." Oh yeah, and telekenesis is a thing too... Ignoring the fact that there are 101 better things to do with a time machine, lets just accept that thats how it is.
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[spoiler]
So now lets get to all the little loop holes (pun intended giggity giggity goo!).
1. Why do they need Loopers? Loopers are told exactly where the future mob is going to teleport someone in, so that implies that the time travel device is able to place someone in a location with relative accuracy. So rather than having Loopers and wasting money paying these people to be assassins, why not just drop the guy in a volcano or something?
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2. At the end why did Young Joe kill himself? He seems to have had some sort of epiphany that Future Joe's attempt at killing the young rainmaker and inadvertedly killing the rainmaker's mother is what causes the rain maker to turn evil and hunt down all loopers. And in an effort to stop his future self, he shoots himself in the heart. But there-in lies the problem. The Rainmaker existed in a future where his mother was never hunted down by future joe or anyone, and yet he still grew up to be a certifiably murderous jack ass. So by killing himself, what did he change? He was never the reason the Rainmaker existed. Its like turning off your stove because your cell phone has no network. The two are completely unrelated. Whether or not ur stove is on, u still wont have network. Same applies here, whether or not the future joe does his thing, the rainmaker will stil be born. The only chance at chanding anything would be to kill the rainmaker.
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[QUOTE="Wii4Fun"]I always wondered why the eagles didn't fly them there. Because of the Entire Army of Mordor and the Ring Wraiths that could fly. They'd never make it and then Sauron would have the Ring. It's not hard to figure out. Elementary school kids have been smart enough to handle the plot of LOTR since it was published in 1955. I guess kids these days are special stupidLord of The Rings. They bring those hobbit boys through hell just to go toss a piece of metal in a volcano when that super-powerful, super-lazy old wizard could have teleported there and do it himself.
Travo_basic
In dragon ball z, when cell self-destucted himmself on king kai's planet, he can back to Earth and says as long as his head/brain is intact he can regenerate. Yet when Goku destroyed his head in Kamehameha wave in a earlier episode, he didnt die.
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And also the entire plot in The Last Story. How did thhe main characters in the game did not suspect that
 [spoiler]   Dagron murdered General Asthar. I mean who else could have killed him. Dagron was the only person who use the elevator to get to the weapon room. Zael sees him uses the elevator. Yet when Zael uses the elevator to go to the weapon room to get to General Asthar. Why he did not notice that the only person who had be there with General Asthar is Dagron. Why didnt he notice Dagron's disappearence [/spoiler]   Â
No, in DBZ, Cell can regenerate as long as atleast 1 cell of his still exists...hence his name... CELL :PIn dragon ball z, when cell self-destucted himmself on king kai's planet, he can back to Earth and says as long as his head/brain is intact he can regenerate. Yet when Goku destroyed his head in Kamehameha wave in a earlier episode, he didnt die.
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And also the entire plot in The Last Story. How did thhe main characters in the game did not suspect that
 [spoiler]   Dagron murdered General Asthar. I mean who else could have killed him. Dagron was the only person who use the elevator to get to the weapon room. Zael sees him uses the elevator. Yet when Zael uses the elevator to go to the weapon room to get to General Asthar. Why he did not notice that the only person who had be there with General Asthar is Dagron. Why didnt he notice Dagron's disappearence [/spoiler]   Â
dbz987
I thought it was a plot hole too. But I bought the directors cut dvd and there is a deleted scene cut from the movie with the cops discussing the raptors killing them SOLVED!Another big plot hole: The Lost World Jurassic Park.
What in God's name murdered the crew of that ship? The T-Rex had no way of getting in those small corridors and eating the drivers and such.
I do know that they DID have a planned scene to explain it, but they took it out and replaced it with nothing so what we are left with is one of the most glaring plot holes I have ever seen once you notice it.
LostProphetFLCL
By that logic, it's possible the Price in MW2 isn't the same one in MW1. hmm.....[QUOTE="cd_rom"][QUOTE="Hatiko"]
Capt. Price is like Patterson in MOH. The CP in Cod2 isn;t the same on in mw1 and 2 like the patterson in Frontlines isn't the same one in the new MoH and all of the other ones he was in.
Hatiko
Well the fact that MW2 is a direct sequel to MW1 says otherwise.
The Cpt. Price in MW is the grandson of the Cpt. Price in COD, I believe.[QUOTE="Hatiko"][QUOTE="cd_rom"] By that logic, it's possible the Price in MW2 isn't the same one in MW1. hmm.....sogni_belli
Well the fact that MW2 is a direct sequel to MW1 says otherwise.
The Cpt. Price in MW is the grandson of the Cpt. Price in COD, I believe.OMG, I made that reply like, 2 years ago.
[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]That really annoys me. His "disguise" consists of a pair of spectacles and hair gel.Are the people in metropolis blind? He also raises his voice an octave, slouches, wears clothes two sizes too big...Why does nobody recognize clark kent?
call_of_duty_10
Looper - SPOILERS AHEAD (Just in case you don't know what spoiler tags mean :P )
Ok, so the entire concept is pretty cool. Time travel has been invented in the future but is outlawed, but the mob, some how has the experties and money to make their own time travel apparatus. So the mob being what it is, it uses time machines to send people it wants killed back to the past so they can be killed by hired assassins in the past known as "Loopers." Oh yeah, and telekenesis is a thing too... Ignoring the fact that there are 101 better things to do with a time machine, lets just accept that thats how it is.
Â
[spoiler]
So now lets get to all the little loop holes (pun intended giggity giggity goo!).
1. Why do they need Loopers? Loopers are told exactly where the future mob is going to teleport someone in, so that implies that the time travel device is able to place someone in a location with relative accuracy. So rather than having Loopers and wasting money paying these people to be assassins, why not just drop the guy in a volcano or something?
Â
2. At the end why did Young Joe kill himself? He seems to have had some sort of epiphany that Future Joe's attempt at killing the young rainmaker and inadvertedly killing the rainmaker's mother is what causes the rain maker to turn evil and hunt down all loopers. And in an effort to stop his future self, he shoots himself in the heart. But there-in lies the problem. The Rainmaker existed in a future where his mother was never hunted down by future joe or anyone, and yet he still grew up to be a certifiably murderous jack ass. So by killing himself, what did he change? He was never the reason the Rainmaker existed. Its like turning off your stove because your cell phone has no network. The two are completely unrelated. Whether or not ur stove is on, u still wont have network. Same applies here, whether or not the future joe does his thing, the rainmaker will stil be born. The only chance at chanding anything would be to kill the rainmaker.
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II_Seraphim_II
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I agree with you entirely. I hate even more how [spoiler] Â they suggested both that the mob had to work underground and used the loopers, but at the same time they dominated the future. They killed Bruce's wife in the future too, which goes against what is said in the beginning (that it's almost impossible to cover up murder in the future, which is why they needed loopers)Â [/spoiler]
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