would you consider yourself ''racist''?

[QUOTE="chandlerr_360"]

There is a difference between liking or being friendly towards a person of another race, and actually not being racist, that is the point I have been trying to make. The truth is that racism is more defined by the ideaology of a race of people rather than there physical appearance, and that is what most people fail to see. Accepting someone because they look different is easy, but accepting someone because they think different is not.

Proof that you are racist? Only you have that.

LJS9502_basic

I don't need you to tell me what racism is...I know what it is. And your point...was to accuse everyone of racism. I'm not. I've been around different people all my life. As I stated earlier...racism is taught. I didn't grow up in that type of environment. I am around people daily that don't think as I do....it's not hard to accept that either. I rather enjoy debating against conflicting thoughts....again, you haven't proven your point.:)

Are you like, an Amish man with a secret internet connection or something? (Yes I realise my irony.)

But applying that to race is the same thing. Having a negative baised towards someone because of their race is discrimination. Discrimination based on race is racism.

GettingTired

However, back to my original point prejudice =/= racism. (It's not an if and only if relation.) And like I said eariler, unfortunately many confuse the two.

While you can say some racist has prejudice, you can't say having a prejudice makes you racist.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="chandlerr_360"]

There is a difference between liking or being friendly towards a person of another race, and actually not being racist, that is the point I have been trying to make. The truth is that racism is more defined by the ideaology of a race of people rather than there physical appearance, and that is what most people fail to see. Accepting someone because they look different is easy, but accepting someone because they think different is not.

Proof that you are racist? Only you have that.

Total-KO

I don't need you to tell me what racism is...I know what it is. And your point...was to accuse everyone of racism. I'm not. I've been around different people all my life. As I stated earlier...racism is taught. I didn't grow up in that type of environment. I am around people daily that don't think as I do....it's not hard to accept that either. I rather enjoy debating against conflicting thoughts....again, you haven't proven your point.:)

Are you like, an Amish man with a secret internet connection or something? (Yes I realise my irony.)

No...I simply don't prejudge nor do I need everyone to agree with me.

I don't 'hate' other races, but goddamn I'm not of the PC America.

I joke about races, genders, ages.. what have you, and curse like "Damn britts..-.-". So.. a tad bit.

[QUOTE="Total-KO"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="chandlerr_360"]

There is a difference between liking or being friendly towards a person of another race, and actually not being racist, that is the point I have been trying to make. The truth is that racism is more defined by the ideaology of a race of people rather than there physical appearance, and that is what most people fail to see. Accepting someone because they look different is easy, but accepting someone because they think different is not.

Proof that you are racist? Only you have that.

LJS9502_basic

I don't need you to tell me what racism is...I know what it is. And your point...was to accuse everyone of racism. I'm not. I've been around different people all my life. As I stated earlier...racism is taught. I didn't grow up in that type of environment. I am around people daily that don't think as I do....it's not hard to accept that either. I rather enjoy debating against conflicting thoughts....again, you haven't proven your point.:)

Are you like, an Amish man with a secret internet connection or something? (Yes I realise my irony.)

No...I simply don't prejudge nor do I need everyone to agree with me.

First of all it is natural to be pre-judgemental towards a race of people, because based on what the majority of that race does, it affects all of the others, whether they are like that or not.

Second of all, you would not keep on replying to my post's if you did not want other people to agree with you, especially me...that is the whole point of a debate.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Total-KO"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="chandlerr_360"]

There is a difference between liking or being friendly towards a person of another race, and actually not being racist, that is the point I have been trying to make. The truth is that racism is more defined by the ideaology of a race of people rather than there physical appearance, and that is what most people fail to see. Accepting someone because they look different is easy, but accepting someone because they think different is not.

Proof that you are racist? Only you have that.

chandlerr_360

I don't need you to tell me what racism is...I know what it is. And your point...was to accuse everyone of racism. I'm not. I've been around different people all my life. As I stated earlier...racism is taught. I didn't grow up in that type of environment. I am around people daily that don't think as I do....it's not hard to accept that either. I rather enjoy debating against conflicting thoughts....again, you haven't proven your point.:)

Are you like, an Amish man with a secret internet connection or something? (Yes I realise my irony.)

No...I simply don't prejudge nor do I need everyone to agree with me.

First of all it is natural to be pre-judgemental towards a race of people, because based on what the majority of that race does, it affects all of the others, whether they are likethat or not.

Second of all, you would not keep on replying to my post's if you did not want other people to agree with you, especially me...that is the whole point of a debate.

[QUOTE="chandlerr_360"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Total-KO"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="chandlerr_360"]

There is a difference between liking or being friendly towards a person of another race, and actually not being racist, that is the point I have been trying to make. The truth is that racism is more defined by the ideaology of a race of people rather than there physical appearance, and that is what most people fail to see. Accepting someone because they look different is easy, but accepting someone because they think different is not.

Proof that you are racist? Only you have that.

353535355353535

I don't need you to tell me what racism is...I know what it is. And your point...was to accuse everyone of racism. I'm not. I've been around different people all my life. As I stated earlier...racism is taught. I didn't grow up in that type of environment. I am around people daily that don't think as I do....it's not hard to accept that either. I rather enjoy debating against conflicting thoughts....again, you haven't proven your point.:)

Are you like, an Amish man with a secret internet connection or something? (Yes I realise my irony.)

No...I simply don't prejudge nor do I need everyone to agree with me.

First of all it is natural to be pre-judgemental towards a race of people, because based on what the majority of that race does, it affects all of the others, whether they are likethat or not.

Second of all, you would not keep on replying to my post's if you did not want other people to agree with you, especially me...that is the whole point of a debate.

Actually that is completely wrong...

[QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="chandlerr_360"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Total-KO"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="chandlerr_360"]

There is a difference between liking or being friendly towards a person of another race, and actually not being racist, that is the point I have been trying to make. The truth is that racism is more defined by the ideaology of a race of people rather than there physical appearance, and that is what most people fail to see. Accepting someone because they look different is easy, but accepting someone because they think different is not.

Proof that you are racist? Only you have that.

chandlerr_360

I don't need you to tell me what racism is...I know what it is. And your point...was to accuse everyone of racism. I'm not. I've been around different people all my life. As I stated earlier...racism is taught. I didn't grow up in that type of environment. I am around people daily that don't think as I do....it's not hard to accept that either. I rather enjoy debating against conflicting thoughts....again, you haven't proven your point.:)

Are you like, an Amish man with a secret internet connection or something? (Yes I realise my irony.)

No...I simply don't prejudge nor do I need everyone to agree with me.

First of all it is natural to be pre-judgemental towards a race of people, because based on what the majority of that race does, it affects all of the others, whether they are likethat or not.

Second of all, you would not keep on replying to my post's if you did not want other people to agree with you, especially me...that is the whole point of a debate.

Actually that is completely wrong...

[QUOTE="chandlerr_360"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="chandlerr_360"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Total-KO"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="chandlerr_360"]

There is a difference between liking or being friendly towards a person of another race, and actually not being racist, that is the point I have been trying to make. The truth is that racism is more defined by the ideaology of a race of people rather than there physical appearance, and that is what most people fail to see. Accepting someone because they look different is easy, but accepting someone because they think different is not.

Proof that you are racist? Only you have that.

353535355353535

I don't need you to tell me what racism is...I know what it is. And your point...was to accuse everyone of racism. I'm not. I've been around different people all my life. As I stated earlier...racism is taught. I didn't grow up in that type of environment. I am around people daily that don't think as I do....it's not hard to accept that either. I rather enjoy debating against conflicting thoughts....again, you haven't proven your point.:)

Are you like, an Amish man with a secret internet connection or something? (Yes I realise my irony.)

No...I simply don't prejudge nor do I need everyone to agree with me.

First of all it is natural to be pre-judgemental towards a race of people, because based on what the majority of that race does, it affects all of the others, whether they are likethat or not.

Second of all, you would not keep on replying to my post's if you did not want other people to agree with you, especially me...that is the whole point of a debate.

Actually that is completely wrong...

If you were born into a isolated village with ONLY your own race, what do you think that your natural reaction would be to someone of another racewho looks and thinks completely different from you? It would be curiosity, mistrust, and most likely some hostility. There are examples of this all throughout history. If it was not for slavery then the world would be even more racist than it is today...but are you going to say that is wrong too?

Learned behavior might apply to children, but when you start thinking for yourself learned behavior does not become as much as a factor. Learned behavior is what can make people UNDERSTAND racism, which is what more people need to do. Racism will never completely go away, it just needs to be understood.

[QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="chandlerr_360"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="chandlerr_360"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Total-KO"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="chandlerr_360"]

There is a difference between liking or being friendly towards a person of another race, and actually not being racist, that is the point I have been trying to make. The truth is that racism is more defined by the ideaology of a race of people rather than there physical appearance, and that is what most people fail to see. Accepting someone because they look different is easy, but accepting someone because they think different is not.

Proof that you are racist? Only you have that.

chandlerr_360

I don't need you to tell me what racism is...I know what it is. And your point...was to accuse everyone of racism. I'm not. I've been around different people all my life. As I stated earlier...racism is taught. I didn't grow up in that type of environment. I am around people daily that don't think as I do....it's not hard to accept that either. I rather enjoy debating against conflicting thoughts....again, you haven't proven your point.:)

Are you like, an Amish man with a secret internet connection or something? (Yes I realise my irony.)

No...I simply don't prejudge nor do I need everyone to agree with me.

First of all it is natural to be pre-judgemental towards a race of people, because based on what the majority of that race does, it affects all of the others, whether they are likethat or not.

Second of all, you would not keep on replying to my post's if you did not want other people to agree with you, especially me...that is the whole point of a debate.

Actually that is completely wrong...

If you were born into a isolated village with ONLY your own race, what do you think that your natural reaction would be to someone of another race you looks and thinks completely different from you? It would be curiosity, mistrust, and most likely some hostillity. There are examples of this all throughout history. If it was not for slavery then the world would be even more racist than it is today...but are you going to say that is wrong too?

Learned behavior might apply to children, but when you start thinking for yourself learned behavior does not become as much as a factor. Learned behavior is what can make people UNDERSTAND racism, which is what more people need to do. Racism well never completely go away, it just needs to be understood.

[QUOTE="chandlerr_360"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="chandlerr_360"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="chandlerr_360"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Total-KO"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="chandlerr_360"]

There is a difference between liking or being friendly towards a person of another race, and actually not being racist, that is the point I have been trying to make. The truth is that racism is more defined by the ideaology of a race of people rather than there physical appearance, and that is what most people fail to see. Accepting someone because they look different is easy, but accepting someone because they think different is not.

Proof that you are racist? Only you have that.

353535355353535

I don't need you to tell me what racism is...I know what it is. And your point...was to accuse everyone of racism. I'm not. I've been around different people all my life. As I stated earlier...racism is taught. I didn't grow up in that type of environment. I am around people daily that don't think as I do....it's not hard to accept that either. I rather enjoy debating against conflicting thoughts....again, you haven't proven your point.:)

Are you like, an Amish man with a secret internet connection or something? (Yes I realise my irony.)

No...I simply don't prejudge nor do I need everyone to agree with me.

First of all it is natural to be pre-judgemental towards a race of people, because based on what the majority of that race does, it affects all of the others, whether they are likethat or not.

Second of all, you would not keep on replying to my post's if you did not want other people to agree with you, especially me...that is the whole point of a debate.

Actually that is completely wrong...

If you were born into a isolated village with ONLY your own race, what do you think that your natural reaction would be to someone of another race you looks and thinks completely different from you? It would be curiosity, mistrust, and most likely some hostillity. There are examples of this all throughout history. If it was not for slavery then the world would be even more racist than it is today...but are you going to say that is wrong too?

Learned behavior might apply to children, but when you start thinking for yourself learned behavior does not become as much as a factor. Learned behavior is what can make people UNDERSTAND racism, which is what more people need to do. Racism well never completely go away, it just needs to be understood.

Once again you are completely wrong. Not much "bias" towards Africans before the British Empire? Give me a break. Why are you specifically binging up black and white people anyway...I assume it is most likely because you live in the U.S. like myself right? That is proof eough,

[QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="chandlerr_360"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="chandlerr_360"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="chandlerr_360"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Total-KO"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="chandlerr_360"]

There is a difference between liking or being friendly towards a person of another race, and actually not being racist, that is the point I have been trying to make. The truth is that racism is more defined by the ideaology of a race of people rather than there physical appearance, and that is what most people fail to see. Accepting someone because they look different is easy, but accepting someone because they think different is not.

Proof that you are racist? Only you have that.

chandlerr_360

I don't need you to tell me what racism is...I know what it is. And your point...was to accuse everyone of racism. I'm not. I've been around different people all my life. As I stated earlier...racism is taught. I didn't grow up in that type of environment. I am around people daily that don't think as I do....it's not hard to accept that either. I rather enjoy debating against conflicting thoughts....again, you haven't proven your point.:)

Are you like, an Amish man with a secret internet connection or something? (Yes I realise my irony.)

No...I simply don't prejudge nor do I need everyone to agree with me.

First of all it is natural to be pre-judgemental towards a race of people, because based on what the majority of that race does, it affects all of the others, whether they are likethat or not.

Second of all, you would not keep on replying to my post's if you did not want other people to agree with you, especially me...that is the whole point of a debate.

Actually that is completely wrong...

If you were born into a isolated village with ONLY your own race, what do you think that your natural reaction would be to someone of another race you looks and thinks completely different from you? It would be curiosity, mistrust, and most likely some hostillity. There are examples of this all throughout history. If it was not for slavery then the world would be even more racist than it is today...but are you going to say that is wrong too?

Learned behavior might apply to children, but when you start thinking for yourself learned behavior does not become as much as a factor. Learned behavior is what can make people UNDERSTAND racism, which is what more people need to do. Racism well never completely go away, it just needs to be understood.

Once again you are completely wrong. Not much "bias" towards Africans before the British Empire? Give me a break. Why are you specifically binging up black and white people anyway...I assume it is most likely because you live in the U.S. like myself right? That is proof eough,

It is obvious from your replies that you are either not intelligent enough to comprehend the human mind or you are in denial. I have provided more than enough proof to prove yourself wrong where you have provided no proof whatsoever, just opinions. I am done argueing with you, I hope that you have learned something from this "debate".chandlerr_360

I however have proved that the conept of race is a lie. there is no biological marker that is present in all members of a particular race

[QUOTE="Link256"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Wrong. Unless you are taught there are difference among people...you don't see it. And ignorance is the fact that you actually think there are differences among people.

LJS9502_basic

You realize how silly that sounds? Now you are claiming there is no differences? That is just being bit ignorant, don't you think?

So, when you see woman, you do not notice difference in shape? When you see Asian, you don't know notice difference in their eyes? When you see African, you do not see difference in their skin color?

At times, I believe that sooner that we as society learn to accept the differences we have, sooner we will be able to accept the similarities.

:lol:Thanks for the laugh.....racism is not about noticing differences in sex or color...or hair color. That is physical characteristics. And none of them make someone better than another. :lol::lol:

It is obvious from your replies that you are either not intelligent enough to comprehend the human mind or you are in denial. I have provided more than enough proof to prove yourself wrong where you have provided no proof whatsoever, just opinions. I am done argueing with you, I hope that you have learned something from this "debate".chandlerr_360

Your proof is from pathetic "what if" stories and personal opinion. Here's some proof you might understand.

Imagine if a child grows up in an environment where all of the children are cared for collectively and each female adult who cares for the children is each a different race. Each of the children are of a different race too. Now, once the child turns 18, they are shipped off to a place with a diverse race composition. Do you think the child would instinctively gather with people of the same color or race as himself? Who knows, because that has not been done and we don't have any experimentation to back it up.

Now do you see what a worthless argument is? Ok then, let's not make those anymore.

No, but I crack jokes at other races like its my jobViVaLaMaTT

Lol, word, me too

First of all it is natural to be pre-judgemental towards a race of people, because based on what the majority of that race does, it affects all of the others, whether they are like that or not.

Second of all, you would not keep on replying to my post's if you did not want other people to agree with you, especially me...that is the whole point of a debate.

chandlerr_360

No...it's not natural. Those who lack education like to compartmentalize everyone because it saves them thinking for themselves.

Second.....I like to point out the errors and lack of logic in thinking...so when I see it...i reply.:)

Not at all. All people are equal to me(except for old people :x )

I will admit i like to say N***a alotUSSJAndrew

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Link256"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Wrong. Unless you are taught there are difference among people...you don't see it. And ignorance is the fact that you actually think there are differences among people.

Link256

You realize how silly that sounds? Now you are claiming there is no differences? That is just being bit ignorant, don't you think?

So, when you see woman, you do not notice difference in shape? When you see Asian, you don't know notice difference in their eyes? When you see African, you do not see difference in their skin color?

At times, I believe that sooner that we as society learn to accept the differences we have, sooner we will be able to accept the similarities.

:lol:Thanks for the laugh.....racism is not about noticing differences in sex or color...or hair color. That is physical characteristics. And none of them make someone better than another. :lol::lol:

Au contraire....that is EXACTLY what you said.

[QUOTE="chandlerr_360"]

First of all it is natural to be pre-judgemental towards a race of people, because based on what the majority of that race does, it affects all of the others, whether they are like that or not.

Second of all, you would not keep on replying to my post's if you did not want other people to agree with you, especially me...that is the whole point of a debate.

LJS9502_basic

No...it's not natural. Those who lack education like to compartmentalize everyone because it saves them thinking for themselves.

Second.....I like to point out the errors and lack of logic in thinking...so when I see it...i reply.:)

Well said, I agree.

If you were born into a isolated village with ONLY your own race, what do you think that your natural reaction would be to someone of another racewho looks and thinks completely different from you? It would be curiosity, mistrust, and most likely some hostility. There are examples of this all throughout history. If it was not for slavery then the world would be even more racist than it is today...but are you going to say that is wrong too?

Learned behavior might apply to children, but when you start thinking for yourself learned behavior does not become as much as a factor. Learned behavior is what can make people UNDERSTAND racism, which is what more people need to do. Racism will never completely go away, it just needs to be understood.

chandlerr_360

No...you would only mistrust if you were taught to mistrust anyone that deviates from what you are used to. Have you ever been around babies and young children? They do NOT display animosity, fear, mistrust or hostility toward those who do not look the same. You are incorrect as usual.

[QUOTE="Link256"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Link256"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Wrong. Unless you are taught there are difference among people...you don't see it. And ignorance is the fact that you actually think there are differences among people.

LJS9502_basic

You realize how silly that sounds? Now you are claiming there is no differences? That is just being bit ignorant, don't you think?

So, when you see woman, you do not notice difference in shape? When you see Asian, you don't know notice difference in their eyes? When you see African, you do not see difference in their skin color?

At times, I believe that sooner that we as society learn to accept the differences we have, sooner we will be able to accept the similarities.

:lol:Thanks for the laugh.....racism is not about noticing differences in sex or color...or hair color. That is physical characteristics. And none of them make someone better than another. :lol::lol:

Au contraire....that is EXACTLY what you said.

What does "au contraire" mean?

What does "au contraire" mean?

Link256

On the contrary(I believe)

[QUOTE="Link256"]

What does "au contraire" mean?

guynamedbilly

On the contrary(I believe)

Thank-you.

LJS9502_basic wrote, so, I ask you - what part of what I saying is in conflict? Whatpart of what I am saying cannot co-exist?

Also, other than that, I think all of this debating steams from the fact (how many times do I have to say this?), that my defintion of "racism" is different from your's.

[QUOTE="guynamedbilly"][QUOTE="Link256"]

What does "au contraire" mean?

Link256

On the contrary(I believe)

Thank-you.

LJS9502_basic wrote, so, I ask you - what part of what I saying is in conflict? Whatpart of what I am saying cannot co-exist?

Also, other than that, I think all of this debating steams from the fact (how many times do I have to say this?), that my defintion of "racism" is different from your's.

Words have specific meanings...you can't arbitrarily change them to suit yourself. And everything in your post. Physical characteristics are not what we were talking about and you know it.

Pfft no. Being racist is awfully hard when you're multiracial. :|Funkyhamster

However, believe it or not, on some what related note, it has shown that it is possibly for person, in one fashion or another, on some kind of degree, to have some kind of rascal bias towards the very race they are representing.

hell no, but if stereotypes ring true (which 90% of the time they do) then i cant help but to generalize, but there is a huge difference between racist hate and stereotypes g-unit248

No stereotype is 90% true.....and believing stereotypes is the first step to racism.

hell no, but if stereotypes ring true (which 90% of the time they do) then i cant help but to generalize, but there is a huge difference between racist hate and stereotypes g-unit248

[QUOTE="g-unit248"]hell no, but if stereotypes ring true (which 90% of the time they do) then i cant help but to generalize, but there is a huge difference between racist hate and stereotypes LJS9502_basic

No stereotype is 90% true.....and believing stereotypes is the first step to racism.

its too lazy of a sunday to argue, but stereotypes dont start because someone pulled a ethnicity, religion, sex, demographic, ect out of a hat and matched it too being cheap, dumb, or bad drivers ect, so they generally do ring true, and as for being the first step toward racism, there is a big difference between burning a cross on someones yard and passing a car thats driving like a jackass and looking at the driver and thinking, "well that figures"

Racism -- The belief that one 'racial group' is inferior to another and the practices of the dominant group to maintain the inferior position of the dominated group. Often defined as a combination of power, prejudice and discrimination

So being biases towards one race does not make you a racist, as EVERYONE is biased, no matter what you say. Racists try to keep one group inferior to the other.

[QUOTE="g-unit248"]hell no, but if stereotypes ring true (which 90% of the time they do) then i cant help but to generalize, but there is a huge difference between racist hate and stereotypes LJS9502_basic

No stereotype is 90% true.....and believing stereotypes is the first step to racism.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="g-unit248"]hell no, but if stereotypes ring true (which 90% of the time they do) then i cant help but to generalize, but there is a huge difference between racist hate and stereotypes g-unit248

No stereotype is 90% true.....and believing stereotypes is the first step to racism.

its too lazy of a sunday to argue, but stereotypes dont start because someone pulled a ethnicity, religion, sex, demographic, ect out of a hat and matched it too being cheap, dumb, or bad drivers ect, so they generally do ring true, and as for being the first step toward racism, there is a big difference between burning a cross on someones yard and passing a car thats driving like a jackass and looking at the driver and thinking, "well that figures"

Stereotypes stem from ignorance and hatred. You'll notice most are "negative" and you can find just as many, if not more, individuals in any given group that do NOT fit the stereotype. Racism does not necessarily mean you have to be proactive either.....:|

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="g-unit248"]hell no, but if stereotypes ring true (which 90% of the time they do) then i cant help but to generalize, but there is a huge difference between racist hate and stereotypes SolidSnake35

No stereotype is 90% true.....and believing stereotypes is the first step to racism.

*sigh* Not you as well.....I can't speak for you...but I'm not racist in the least. I judge people on character....not race.