Simple random question. Would you die to defend your homeland? Assuming that none of your friend or relatives are in specific danger, would you go out to fight, and die?
My country's never gonna be in that kind of danger. We're too nice here in Canada. Luncbox1
you dont even have to fight and die for canada....all someone has to do is bring blow dryers and heaters to melt your igloo cities and your government would surrender....:P
Thats not true el fanboy. Nationalism is about the country, the state being more importent than the people. Its not an ideology I believe in but I find it interesting nonetheless.
What do you mean? Like, for its existence? Like someone points a nuclear warhead that's unstoppable to the US? Yeah, but only to stop other people from being killed. Fighting in wars is not fighting for your country, it's fighting wars.
Ok so I think a good amount of people would defend their homeland. But I wonder how many would support an assault on another "innocent" country?locopatho
Thats not true el fanboy. Nationalism is about the country, the state being more importent than the people. Its not an ideology I believe in but I find it interesting nonetheless.locopatho
There's another word for that. It's called Fascism.
"Now I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." (General George S. Patton)
Simple random question. Would you die to defend your homeland? Assuming that none of your friend or relatives are in specific danger, would you go out to fight, and die? locopatho
Your making it sound like I am the only one charging into a field full of machine gunners...
[QUOTE="Decessus"]"Now I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." (General George S. Patton) So war is an absolutely terrible thing anyway.
But what about pre emptive strikes? Not to get into a whole Middle East thing here, but they can and have been justified and accepted. Again speaking generally here not to prove a political point.
Thats not true el fanboy. Nationalism is about the country, the state being more importent than the people. Its not an ideology I believe in but I find it interesting nonetheless.locopatho
thats the idealism of the governing body who is engaging in war, not the personal view of the soldier.
Nationalsim is a huge part of fascism yes, but not all nationalists are fascists. Btw its funny all the canadians couldnt give a flyingg f*ck bout canada lol
Nationalsim is a huge part of fascism yes, but not all nationalists are fascists. Btw its funny all the canadians couldnt give a flyingg f*ck bout canada lollocopatho
Some degree of nationalism is required for the survival of any state. Without some degree of unification, a state will fracture and die.
Nationalsim is a huge part of fascism yes, but not all nationalists are fascists. Btw its funny all the canadians couldnt give a flyingg f*ck bout canada lollocopatho
It's nothing like that. We love our country. We just don't see the point in dying for it, much less any country.
Hmmm perhaps el fanboy, but if all they cared about was the people, why would they bother fighting? Wouldnt a peaceful occupation by the enemy mean the least death? But this would clearly be unacceptable to most people. Because they care about their country.
As General George Patton said before D-day "Someone doesn't win a war by dying for his country, it's making the other poor dumb bastard die for his." Also please don't moderate me because I didn't actually say it myself.
But if you loved Canada, could you watch it taken over or destroyed without fighting back?locopatho
Of course I'd fight. I was thinking you meant death as a decision made by the country itself. Perhaps it's the perspective on war. Saying I would die for my country is like saying I know we've already failed. Instead I'll say that I'd fight for my country.
Not for no good reason. I see it as, I would fight for myself & my loved ones & if that meant dying, then so be it... But America & its its ridiculously unnecessary & greedy war can kiss my ass.
Log in to comment