Would you die for your country, if it was under attack?

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#101 Montaya
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Well if you dont like the idea of dieing for your country, perhaps you can be a cook or medic in the army.
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#102 FatalFist
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Welll....We can all say...yea we'd die fr the country...but I bet when the situation actually dawn on u...most ppl chicken out.... ________________ And....If I was Alone--as in Widout a Family the chances of me sticking wid my country to the end wud be higher...cuz if i had a family i wudve run fr it....And I really wudnt care whether my country was rite or wrong....cuz frankly....evyone has a side/story to tell...
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#103 EVOLV3
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Willfully I wouldnt. I love Canada but not enough to die for it.
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#104 darkIink
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No, I'd move. My family's been screwed over by the US's law but I'm not going to discuss it just know it wasn't anything close to illegal or jail related.
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#105 soulless4now
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hell no. id just leavefreshgman
My thoughts exactly.
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#106 themagicbum9720
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i wouldn't die for any country.
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#107 ras2009
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Yes i'de die for my country i'm thinking of joining the Army when i'm old enough.
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#108 Vanadium2k8
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Probably labour work, but not military work. So I guess that's a no.
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#109 boogerschnooky
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Only if my country is worth fighting for. America is not worth dying for right now.
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#110 WhiteWorld
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You would let your country be taken over??? Whatever suits you.Vilot_Hero
Who cares about where you happened to be born? It's arbitrary and meaningless. I'm more interested in living. I'd die for a good cause, like if my death meant 1,000,000 stupid people would also die but I wouldn't die for my country. And dying for your country is a weird way to say it. Like Patton said "You don't win a war by dying for your country. You win a war by making the other sonofa***** die for his."
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#111 sukraj
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No
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#112 Bigboss232
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Die for my country no but if I had no choice I would if I had freinds and family counting on me its a different story.
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#113 _glatisant_
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Hell no. I'd be first in line to register as a conscientious objector if conscription was ever enforced. I rather like not being shot at and I don't think I could ever justify killing a stranger to myself.
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#114 LoCi-X
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It they were in my neighborhood. I'd get up on my roof and start sniping. The only problem is I would run out of bullets (300WBYMAG = EXPENSIVE!!) and then I'd have to use my Glock which really wouldn't work so hot if I was trying not to be discovered. So then I'd die, yeah. Or maybe I'd try to regroup at Wal-Mart. They have a nice little cache ;)
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#115 i-like-pie
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I will the guy who sits safe in a bunker controlling rockets :)
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#116 BoostJunkE
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If the US is attack on US soil by a large army, you will either fight or die.

You're lieing to your self if you think anything else, specailly moving to some other country like Mexico or Canada. America is the only Free major super power in the world. If you don't think the prevelling force want attack Canada, you need to think again. The same thing for every other free or so called free country. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not in the military and nor to I want to fight. No one wins in War. But you can bet you game collection I'll be the first one to take up arms against any one attacking my country. I will how ever make a list of Obama supporters and leave them to defend them sleves ;)

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#117 mrbojangles25
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well no but I would kill for my country if it were being attacked. I suppose if I died while defending it then ya I would.

But if youre talking about sacrificing myself then no, I wouldnt.

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#118 krazykillaz
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Probably not.
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#119 Dark__Link
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Yes.
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#120 Vandalvideo
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If my country promised to pay for my college or give me a permenant, well paying job sure.
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#121 clayron
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2 things:

1. Why do people always say they are willing to die for their country?Dieing for your country will not solve anything. Killing is the way to go.

2. I am not big on dying, so "No" to the TC question. But, if someone invades America I am going on an Invader-Killing spree.

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#122 morpheusnj
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in all honesty, I'd leave the country. on one hand I understand people have to fight but I just dont wanna waste my life for a cause that I most likely dont support much.
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#123 Samwel_X
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No. I would however die for some of the people who live within said country.
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#124 deactivated-59d151f079814
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You would let your country be taken over??? Whatever suits you.Vilot_Hero
That is a oversimplified question.. Why would the country be attacked? Could the countires out look be better under the power of the invader? etc etc..
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#125 Hadoken_Kid
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no I wouldnt die for a country that has treated my family and ancestors as second class citizens for close to 400 years.
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#127 fidosim
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I don't meant o flame here, but I can't believe so many of you people wouldn't bother defending your own country, if it were invaded. I don't know what has happened to this generation, but there's simply no excuse for recieving from a country without being willing to serve it. If you really don't like your country or its policies, try to change them through the political process, or move to another one, but I can't understand staying in a country and reaping the benefits of livig there and then running away when it needs you. I guess we really are the next Rome. There are stories from the Hun invasion of Roman men living high-quality cosmopolitan lifestyles being so afraid of the idea of defending that lifestyle that they cut off their own thumbs to disqualify themselves. Honestly, we're doomed if our generation really feels this way.
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#128 lucky326
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This generation really has lost all focus......Of course I would stay and fight and die if needed. Anyone who doesn't say that really doesn't deserve living as far as I'm concerned its treason.
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#129 clayron
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no I wouldnt die for a country that has treated my family and ancestors as second class citizens for close to 400 years.Hadoken_Kid

What is your ethnic backgrou

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#131 mrbojangles25
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I don't meant o flame here, but I can't believe so many of you people wouldn't bother defending your own country, if it were invaded. I don't know what has happened to this generation, but there's simply no excuse for recieving from a country without being willing to serve it. If you really don't like your country or its policies, try to change them through the political process, or move to another one, but I can't understand staying in a country and reaping the benefits of livig there and then running away when it needs you. I guess we really are the next Rome. There are stories from the Hun invasion of Roman men living high-quality cosmopolitan lifestyles being so afraid of the idea of defending that lifestyle that they cut off their own thumbs to disqualify themselves. Honestly, we're doomed if our generation really feels this way.fidosim

well, they say it now, but if an enemy bomb dropped on their house and killed their family, I bet they'd take up arms against the invaders.

There is a certain pride poster's have in claiming they will do one thing (which goes against "the norm/acceptable" thing) and what would actually happen should the hypothetical situation turn real.

Rest assured, I feel my generation would relish a good conflict. Its like Tyler from Fight Club; we have no great war, we have no great conflict. ANd we are a little lost, have a lack of identity, because of it.

Although I gotta be honest I dont have much faith in anyone under 19 years old nowadays. Good god im turning into an old man...

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#132 mrbojangles25
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[QUOTE="fidosim"]I don't meant o flame here, but I can't believe so many of you people wouldn't bother defending your own country, if it were invaded. I don't know what has happened to this generation, but there's simply no excuse for recieving from a country without being willing to serve it. If you really don't like your country or its policies, try to change them through the political process, or move to another one, but I can't understand staying in a country and reaping the benefits of livig there and then running away when it needs you. I guess we really are the next Rome. There are stories from the Hun invasion of Roman men living high-quality cosmopolitan lifestyles being so afraid of the idea of defending that lifestyle that they cut off their own thumbs to disqualify themselves. Honestly, we're doomed if our generation really feels this way.SEANMCAD

becuase despite common "feeling" on the subject you dont own your country, your country owns you.

oh I dont know about that. The man i voted for is in office, Im pretty sure that makes him my president.

my dad petitioned recently to have a U-turn sign installed at an intersection, and through the local government was able to get one put in place.

My mom has received six pink slips (she works at a middle school) in the past two years and, by defying the government, protesting, and gaining support, has been able to keep her job thus far.

Yep, Im pretty sure despite all the cynicism, our government is in our hands.

More importantly, if our country was invaded, who would we be fighting for? Would it be our government? Maybe, but I think more likely we would be fighting for our family, friends, homes, and country. This is the distinction people need to start making: your country is not your government; America is not the same as the United States government.

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#134 mrbojangles25
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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="fidosim"]I don't meant o flame here, but I can't believe so many of you people wouldn't bother defending your own country, if it were invaded. I don't know what has happened to this generation, but there's simply no excuse for recieving from a country without being willing to serve it. If you really don't like your country or its policies, try to change them through the political process, or move to another one, but I can't understand staying in a country and reaping the benefits of livig there and then running away when it needs you. I guess we really are the next Rome. There are stories from the Hun invasion of Roman men living high-quality cosmopolitan lifestyles being so afraid of the idea of defending that lifestyle that they cut off their own thumbs to disqualify themselves. Honestly, we're doomed if our generation really feels this way.SEANMCAD

well, they say it now, but if an enemy bomb dropped on their house and killed their family, I bet they'd take up arms against the invaders.

There is a certain pride poster's have in claiming they will do one thing (which goes against "the norm/acceptable" thing) and what would actually happen should the hypothetical situation turn real.

Rest assured, I feel my generation would relish a good conflict. Its like Tyler from Fight Club; we have no great war, we have no great conflict. ANd we are a little lost, have a lack of identity, because of it.

Although I gotta be honest I dont have much faith in anyone under 19 years old nowadays. Good god im turning into an old man...

That is completely different question in my mind. if I get attacked I will defend me and people around me. But that is completely different then would I defend my country if its attacked.

The reason for that has many factors but one is clearly that people dont have a common definition for what "country" is or is not and often boil it down to an idea and not something real.

For example, if someone attacks the president is that an attack on the country in this context? in my view no.

yep I agree with you (see last part of my post above)

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#135 Elraptor
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If I could get a big life insurance policy, maybe.
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Honestly, we're doomed if our generation really feels this way.fidosim
oh noes, we are doomed! I'm sure in the past, every single able-bodied male (and female?) was fully willing to live and die specifically for their country.
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#137 lucky326
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[QUOTE="fidosim"] Honestly, we're doomed if our generation really feels this way.Jandurin
oh noes, we are doomed! I'm sure in the past, every single able-bodied male (and female?) was fully willing to live and die specifically for their country.

I believe that was called WW2.
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#138 -eddy-
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Honestly, we're doomed if our generation really feels this way.fidosim
Are we really? Perhaps it's good that citizen have the critic sight to see that you needn't follow your goverment all the way to death.
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#139 boshlonavish
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Yeah, I think I probably would. Not because I love Canada as a country, but because it's my home.
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#140 -eddy-
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="fidosim"] Honestly, we're doomed if our generation really feels this way.lucky326
oh noes, we are doomed! I'm sure in the past, every single able-bodied male (and female?) was fully willing to live and die specifically for their country.

I believe that was called WW2.

Actually, a large portion of soldiers in WW2 just shot at the air and purposfully missed, not wanting to kill other humans.
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#141 quiglythegreat
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I'm not killing someone out of patriotism, and I'm not dying for it either. It's not like the Golden Throne, that your empire's doomed if you don't give your life. If everyone agreed to stop giving their lives for their country we'd be all right.
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#142 lucky326
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[QUOTE="fidosim"] Honestly, we're doomed if our generation really feels this way.-eddy-
Are we really? Perhaps it's good that citizen have the critic sight to see that you needn't follow your goverment all the way to death.

Yes, and when the enemy runs over your country how would you react to that? If they do it yours you can be sure they are going to have similar results in other countries.
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#143 ATT-Fighter
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I could care less about the government. I would die from my country though. Not country as a sense of this land, but of the people in it. Well, maybe not the yankees.
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#144 Teenaged
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I'm not killing someone out of patriotism, and I'm not dying for it either. It's not like the Golden Throne, that your empire's doomed if you don't give your life. If everyone agreed to stop giving their lives for their country we'd be all right.quiglythegreat
I pretty much agree with that.
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I would proudly die for Scotland.
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#147 lucky326
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[QUOTE="lucky326"][QUOTE="-eddy-"] Are we really? Perhaps it's good that citizen have the critic sight to see that you needn't follow your goverment all the way to death.SEANMCAD
Yes, and when the enemy runs over your country how would you react to that? If they do it yours you can be sure they are going to have similar results in other countries.

1. You dont own your country your country owns you so asking to defend it is asking to defend those who rule over you. 2. I think it was Jefferson that said the goverment should be over turned every 20 years or so. What exactly do you think he is saying there?

We have voted our government into power therefore we are the ones to blame if they screw up, and no I see defending the country as defending my homeland which is one of the most important things to me.
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#148 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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i would fight but not for my country
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#149 Bigg_Boi
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I would gladly lay down my life for my country, I'm proud of Canada and I'm more then willing to defend it.

As for all the people who say no, well there is always conscription to FORCE you to charge at the enemy.