Would you die for your country, if it was under attack?

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#151 Shadowhawk000
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Why do people always talk about dieing for there country and not killing for it?
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#152 fidosim
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[QUOTE="fidosim"] Honestly, we're doomed if our generation really feels this way.Jandurin
oh noes, we are doomed! I'm sure in the past, every single able-bodied male (and female?) was fully willing to live and die specifically for their country.

It's not about wanting to do it, it's about doing it anyway. The greatest generation did it anyway. The Korean generation did it anyway. The Vietnam generation did it anyway (although that's where the sentiment about reaping the benefits of living in a country then running away when it does something you don't like began).
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#153 SSBFan12
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If your country was under attack, would you die fighting??? Or would you move out of the country and seek refuge in another country? I would die fighting for my country no matter what.

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I would not die that way.
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#154 fidosim
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[QUOTE="fidosim"] Honestly, we're doomed if our generation really feels this way.-eddy-
Are we really? Perhaps it's good that citizen have the critic sight to see that you needn't follow your goverment all the way to death.

A citizen, by definition, is someone who owes allegiance to their government in exchange for the protection and privledges that the government offers. It is perfectly legitimate to criticise the laws and practices of a government, but disobeying the law out of pure self-interest is unacceptable. It's not unreasonable that the government expects its citizens to fight for it when it's in trouble, especially when the country is under attack. You can't disguise selfishness as high philosophy.
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#155 tzar3
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I shall wrap C4 and TNT around my body, and become a Suicide Warrior!
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#156 greenprince
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If I felt like I was dying for something yes I'd fight for Canada though I wouldn't intend of dying. Toriko42
Same answer.
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#157 omfg_its_dally
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Can't honestly say that I would. It isn't my fault we were being attacked. I'd support others taking refuge and try to help them out though.
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#158 knight0151
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You would let your country be taken over??? Whatever suits you.Vilot_Hero

Psssh. The usa is an already **** up country. If the U.S.A was attacked, I would laugh, LOUDLY, and wait it out. If it got serious I would move out.

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#159 _LiquidFlame_
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I might, but it all depends on the situation.
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#160 Communist_Soul
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Depends who was attacking, if the invading country was to bring Communism to my country I would help them but if there invanding for land, oil and anything else I would stay and fight them.
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#161 omfg_its_dally
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]You would let your country be taken over??? Whatever suits you.knight0151

Psssh. The usa is an already **** up country. If the U.S.A was attacked, I would laugh, LOUDLY, and wait it out. If it got serious I would move out.

Though I wouldn't die for a fight I had nothing to do with, I wouldn't laugh at my countrymen being killed. :?
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#162 PlzDuntBanMe
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No...I'll just be a refugee
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#163 jaqulle999
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No, americia is not that great

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#164 JohnnySN1P3R
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I'd fight it!
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#165 fidosim
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[QUOTE="lucky326"][QUOTE="-eddy-"] Are we really? Perhaps it's good that citizen have the critic sight to see that you needn't follow your goverment all the way to death.SEANMCAD
Yes, and when the enemy runs over your country how would you react to that? If they do it yours you can be sure they are going to have similar results in other countries.

1. You dont own your country your country owns you so asking to defend it is asking to defend those who rule over you. 2. I think it was Jefferson that said the goverment should be over turned every 20 years or so. What exactly do you think he is saying there?

There is nothing illegitimate about being expected to fight for the country that rules over you, what exactly is the problem with that? Governments are part of human nature, and are a sign of human intelligence. People always organize to improve their lives. Government is responsible for all of the development of human civilization. Because of government and business organizations, we have clothes on our backs, food on our plates that we didn't have to hunt for ourselves, cars, computers, this forum, and all the other amenities that people's lives revolve around nowadays. There is always a contract between a citizen and their government, and people have always accepted that contract because the benefits of doing so make it worthwhile. IF someone doesn't like that contract, they're free to live in the woods and make their own clothes, find their own food, build their own shelters, and defend themselves from animals and other people who have chosen to live outside of civilization. Most people, however, wouldn't survive 3 weeks in that situation. I apologize, but i'm not sure what you're getting at by referencing Jefferson. Jefferson was a strong anti-federalist (until he became President, that is) who, like many early Americans, was wary of a monarchical, autocratic government taking shape. He wanted a Republican system where elected officials had limited terms so no single person or group could be in office long enough to assume total power. That's what he meant by that statement, but i'm not sure how that ties as justification for poor citizenship.
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#166 alphamale1989
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I'd fortify my house, and have guns in my basement like these guys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Y_6H617Fcs
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#167 thelastguy
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My ancestors sacrificed a lot to come to Canada, so I would.
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#168 awesomeray
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of course i'd die for my country!!QQ!!!!!
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#169 aaaaarrrrggggg
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If the option came along, my thanatophobia would stop me. Unlike most people, death disturbs me to the point where I would go insane if I was surrounded by it. Besides, I'm not the sort of person who could kill someone, or participate in any military position that would cause the deaths of others. I just couldn't.
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#170 DarkGamer007
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"People always talk about dieing for their country, but never killing for their country."

I would kill for my country until I died if that answer your questions however I wouldn't do anything stupid that could get me killed before I accomplished anything, and I wouldn't go out until I couldn't physically fight anymore.

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#171 awesomeray
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No, americia is not that great

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Of course it's great well except for the democrats being in power!!QQ!!!!!:?

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#172 Franko_3
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I would never die for Canada... Maybe for democracy (kinda like ww2) or for Quebec (french canadian province).
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#173 -Misanthropic-
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I would not die for Ireland.

However, I would kill for it.

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#174 FalcoLX
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Depends who was attacking, if the invading country was to bring Communism to my country I would help them but if there invanding for land, oil and anything else I would stay and fight them.Communist_Soul
so...much...wrong. I'm guessing you're some 15 year old punk that has no idea what the real world is like.
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#175 druggyjoe3000
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NA.. I would fight for the united states and isrieal if it where a world war but not die cause I could help out more alive
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#176 Bigg_Boi
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I would never die for Canada... Maybe for democracy (kinda like ww2) or for Quebec (french canadian province).Franko_3
Quebec!? Hell I'd fight to kick them out of Canada! Can't stand those Quebecois...
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#177 warbmxjohn
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As an American, I may not be exactly proud of everything my country does, but this is my home and I would honorably die defending it. I wouldn't even think about it.
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#178 sosodat
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lol if I was to fight and die for my country i would be called a terrorist!
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#179 Jazz_Fan
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I don't think I would.
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#180 Mercenary848
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Don't really know unless in that sitiuation, probably would not have a choice.
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#181 joao_22990
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Hell no. To hell with war, i'd go live in the woods.
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#182 TheProtecter
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Die for the country, No. Die to protect my family, Yes.
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#183 mattykovax
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Its the same as why I do not support the war in Iraq,and while i hate when american soldiers are killed,I understand why the iraqis are fighting and do not hate them for it. It has nothing to do with terrorism and everything to do with occupation.

I am not a soldier. I would never join an army,either to invade or defend here. I want nothing to do with war. But if we were to be invaded I would make some calls,get some equipment,and woe any foreign invader who walked into my little corner of the country, I would show them what insurgency is. It has nothing to do with patriotism,or how the country treats me,or who runs it.

This physical land belongs to me and my family and has for 4 generations,and I will fight,kill,and if need be die to protect that.

thats reality.

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#184 Franko_3
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[QUOTE="Franko_3"]I would never die for Canada... Maybe for democracy (kinda like ww2) or for Quebec (french canadian province).Bigg_Boi
Quebec!? Hell I'd fight to kick them out of Canada! Can't stand those Quebecois...

This is why Quebec is still in Canada I guess, Freud said that hate is the most solid relationship.
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#185 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="Bigg_Boi"][QUOTE="Franko_3"]I would never die for Canada... Maybe for democracy (kinda like ww2) or for Quebec (french canadian province).Franko_3
Quebec!? Hell I'd fight to kick them out of Canada! Can't stand those Quebecois...

This is why Quebec is still in Canada I guess, Freud said that hate is the most solid relationship.

Frued also said children have natural tendencies to have sexual feelings towards the parent of the opposite sex. why do we still study this guy?
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#186 Serraph105
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Also I would not die I would fight and live because I'm awesome like that also because I would listen to my survival instinct and not do stupid things like not know when to back off of a fight.
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#187 Franko_3
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[QUOTE="Franko_3"][QUOTE="Bigg_Boi"] Quebec!? Hell I'd fight to kick them out of Canada! Can't stand those Quebecois...Serraph105
This is why Quebec is still in Canada I guess, Freud said that hate is the most solid relationship.

Frued also said children have natural tendencies to have sexual feelings towards the parent of the opposite sex. why do we still study this guy?

For the same reason that we still study Darwin. People have been taught that Freud was right and there is no point to argue with him. It's kinda sad
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#188 _glatisant_
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="Franko_3"] This is why Quebec is still in Canada I guess, Freud said that hate is the most solid relationship.Franko_3
Frued also said children have natural tendencies to have sexual feelings towards the parent of the opposite sex. why do we still study this guy?

For the same reason that we still study Darwin. People have been taught that Freud was right and there is no point to argue with him. It's kinda sad

Why bring Darwin into this? We study Darwin because he discovered the central theory of modern biology, disputed by a grand total of 0 respectable biologists.

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#189 SolidSnake35
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I'd fight for my country but I wouldn't die for my country, as you put it. I think, given the UK's standard of military, I'd hope for more than a death sentence upon being conscripted.
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#190 Shmiity
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Honestly, I would love to say I would, but I think in reality I would run away. Im a coward to some extent.
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#191 KLAX42
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I sure wouldn't. That just seems crazy to me, although I'm sure many of you will have an argument against that. . :?
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#192 Helbrec
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I'd defenatly defend Canada... eh!
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#193 optiow
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well bottom line for me is...I am a person who really would die for my contry, if I did not I would feel guilty and a coward.
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#194 -Big_Red-
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I'd fight.
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#195 GodofBigMacs
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Depends... if no one else will... I will...
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#196 majoras_wrath
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I don't think they'd accept me, I'm not physically capable of being in a combat situation.
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#197 BoostJunkE
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How come it's a PITA to post pictures on this site?

Anyhow, do a search on "Arbeit marcht frei" if you want to see what happens to a people who chooses not to fight.

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#199 105506
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I would not die for it, but I will defend it with everything I can.

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#200 SpaceMoose
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Why would I? I don't like most of these people anyway. :twisted: