Would you ever join the military? Why or why not?

I would like to go to college for a couple of years and then join the airforce. So When I am done with high school I'll go to the military.

No, never ever ever because I don't want to die and if was ever drafted I would kill myself because if I didn't I would only prolong my already shortened life.

metroidprime55

This post makes no sense to me. You say that you don't want to die, but that you would kill yourself if you were drafted. That makes no sense, because:

1. Killing yourself would go against your desire not to die.
2. You might as well just fight since you're already drafted because you actually have a chance of suriving the war as opposed to just killing yourself.

When WWIII hits I will be the first one to sign up. Other than that i don't plan on joining the military although i did seriously consider it.

I think it would be a great adventure, but I'm not ready to die for the interests of a country that doesn't fit my own

I think it would be a great adventure, but I'm not ready to die for the interests of a country that doesn't fit my own

stupid4

Then, why are you in that country?

I served in the U.S. Air force active duty.......so did my father, for 23 years

I was stationed 3 years at RAF Croughton UK, and 1 year in Warner Robbins AFB, Georgia, USA.

I had such a great time in England, trying to catch all the people on Facebook these days. Great times, i miss them.

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No, never ever ever because I don't want to die and if was ever drafted I would kill myself because if I didn't I would only prolong my already shortened life.

BluRayHiDef

This post makes no sense to me. You say that you don't want to die, but that you would kill yourself if you were drafted. That makes no sense, because:

1. Killing yourself would go against your desire not to die.
2. You might as well just fight since you're already drafted because you actually have a chance of suriving the war as opposed to just killing yourself.

Yes but odds are I won't survive because aren't people who are drafted in the frontlines.

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No, never ever ever because I don't want to die and if was ever drafted I would kill myself because if I didn't I would only prolong my already shortened life.

metroidprime55

This post makes no sense to me. You say that you don't want to die, but that you would kill yourself if you were drafted. That makes no sense, because:

1. Killing yourself would go against your desire not to die.
2. You might as well just fight since you're already drafted because you actually have a chance of suriving the war as opposed to just killing yourself.

Yes but odds are I won't survive because aren't people who are drafted in the frontlines.

At least you will have died for a cause and gone out with some dignity and honor.

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No, never ever ever because I don't want to die and if was ever drafted I would kill myself because if I didn't I would only prolong my already shortened life.

metroidprime55

This post makes no sense to me. You say that you don't want to die, but that you would kill yourself if you were drafted. That makes no sense, because:

1. Killing yourself would go against your desire not to die.
2. You might as well just fight since you're already drafted because you actually have a chance of suriving the war as opposed to just killing yourself.

Yes but odds are I won't survive because aren't people who are drafted in the frontlines.

Have more faith brother, you get trained first, build up that confidence a bit there.

No, never ever ever because I don't want to die and if was ever drafted I would kill myself because if I didn't I would only prolong my already shortened life.

metroidprime55

That's not a very intelligent way to look at it. Kill yourself and you're guaranteed to die. Get drafted and there are several possibilities of you not getting killed. For all you know, you may report to induction, take the physical, and find out you're medically disqualified because of asthma, a heart problem, or some other condition they won't give you a waiver for. One of my coworkers' dad got medically disqualified after being drafted for Vietnam because he couldn't face his palms fully up towards the sky, they said that would hinder his ability to lift stuff off of the ground in a combat situation. Assuming you aren't medically disqualified, it's possible you could just fail the training. People wash out of basic training every day. Let's say you don't fail out of training either, and you do graduate. You could still disrespect your superiors, smoke pot, or about a thousand other things to get yourself kicked out. Let's say again you don't get kicked out and you finally do deploy.

During World War 2 millions of troops were deployed for combat operations. Out of those millions, a few hundred thousand died. This was over a multi-year period and we had medical care that was primitive compared to what we have now. Today, around five or six thousand troops died in the Middle East out of over a million trips over there over the past ten years (some troops going two or more times, I went three). My first time I went to Iraq I crossed the border for invasion in 2003 and outside of catching a stomach virus from some bad food, I came back completely uninjured. Less than two weeks after I returned to the US from the Middle East I was robbed at gunpoint in Atlanta, GA. A buddy of mine survived his second tour in Iraq without getting hurt (he was a mechanic and almost never went outside the wire) and he died four months later in a motorcycle accident in Columbus, GA. Another Soldier in my old brigade came back from his first tour in Iraq and a few months later he was killed by his fiancee's ex-boyfriend when he stabbed him in the head.

The fact of the matter is that when it's your time, it's your time. Assuming that being in the military equals a guaranteed death means you play too much Call of Duty. Not all troops are front line infantrymen, for every infantryman there are several support jobs who support his efforts on the front line whether they're administration, cooks, postal workers (yes, there are troops that deliver the mail), and more.

nope... not untill our goverment isn't corrupted then it's not happening

and if i did

i would only want to be a sniper, or be in airforce... any other way your going get fun down if true war broke out

k2theswiss

Nothing about war is meant to be fun. If I got a dollar for every kid who told me they only want to be a sniper if they enlist I could buy my own Aston Martin right now. People do the stuff in games and think it's the same when it isn't. Since you don't have any military experience, the best way to compare it is to ask you if you think driving in real life is the same as driving in Need for Speed. As for the Air Force, there are ground-pounding jobs in the Air Force just like there are desk jobs in the Army and Marines.

I never sidned my life away, niether has any other service member I know. Also, no matter who you work for you will be taking orders.thegerg

Perhaps I should have been more specific. I do not want to take orders that will threaten my life, and is not my own cause. And according to the Uniform Code of Military Justice, you are potentially signing your life away.

EDIT: If I chose not to follow orders at work, I wouldn't be detained and thrown in jail.

I would never join the army because I don't want to kill people "for my country" because my country wants to have a larger political (imaginary) bounder or for whatever reason. In short, I don't want to have blood on my hands.

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[QUOTE="ArcticNinja21"]Medical reasons. My recruiter actually had me lie about my health to get in.ArcticNinja21

A recruiter allowed you to lie? OMG. That's so unprofessional. What division of the military did you enlist in?

Hate to tell you this, but if you knew it was a lie then you should have said no and told the truth even if it may have disqualified you. Certain medical conditions can be waived. Your recruiter may have encouraged you but you still had the option to refuse.

[QUOTE="thegerg"]I never sidned my life away, niether has any other service member I know. Also, no matter who you work for you will be taking orders.LikeHaterade

Perhaps I should have been more specific. I do not want to take orders that will threaten my life, and is not my own cause. And according to the Uniform Code of Military Justice, you are potentially signing your life away.

EDIT: If I chose not to follow orders at work, I wouldn't be detained and thrown in jail.

To each his own, if that's the way you feel. While I'm in the military I still have a normal life outside of work. I own a house and have a family I come home to every night when not deployed. As for not following orders, the military rarely wastes time sending disruptive troops to jail for disobeying orders unless it's something serious that could get somebody else killed. Most disruptive troops just get demoted and kicked out, especially with the military downsizing lately. In situations similar to yours I wouldn't recommend joining anyway since nine times out of ten people who have a problem with authority don't do well in the military and get kicked out within their first year assuming they even make it through basic.

No I would never join any sort of military branch. Mostly because I tend to have a rather massive superiority complex. So I don't really react well to athority figures shouting at me and ordering me around. Thus I have a tendancy to be defiant for the sake of being defiant.

To each his own, if that's the way you feel. While I'm in the military I still have a normal life outside of work. I own a house and have a family I come home to every night when not deployed. As for not following orders, the military rarely wastes time sending disruptive troops to jail for disobeying orders unless it's something serious that could get somebody else killed. Most disruptive troops just get demoted and kicked out, especially with the military downsizing lately. In situations similar to yours I wouldn't recommend joining anyway since nine times out of ten people who have a problem with authority don't do well in the military and get kicked out within their first year assuming they even make it through basic.

ad1x2

I take no issue with authority. I was just using that as an example. I'd have a problem with the hierarchy issuing me FUBAR orders and having to carry them out, or risk possible jail time. I'm glad we have people such as yourself that are willing to do such that though. Thank you for your service!

Active duty USAF here.