Wow, Some People....

Figured I'd put this out into the world since I'm still stunned by it hours later.

I was sitting out in my apartment building's enclosed courtyard area studying earlier today. Like I usually do, I brought my ferret out to let it run around, dig, etc. Anyway, I'm sitting there studying when all of a sudden I hear this horrible screaming noise. It's almost like a squeek toy that has gone insane. It took me a second or 2 to put 2 and 2 together before I sprinted to the source of the noise.

This girl in my building had opened the door to come out and paid no attention whatsoever as she slammed shut a 50lb hurricane door... with my ferret in the doorframe (I assume it was trying to sneak into the building). It started screaming as it was trapped in between the door bottom and the frame of this incredibly heavy door and she just kept walking. She turned around as she saw me start sprinting and just stared at the door. She made no effort to help the poor creature, just stared.

I was a good 150-200ft away and the scream was loud and terrible to me. There's no way she didn't hear it. If I'd heard a god-awful noise like that I would have turned around even if I thought it was just the door squeaking. But to turn around, hear a noise like that, see a trapped animal and do NOTHING? I would think most people's instinct would be to immediately help and that it wouldn't even be something their mind had to process. All she did afterwards was ask "Is it ok?" and when I said I had absolutely no idea she said "Ok" and walked out to go read her book.

Can people really be so absolutely heartless towards animals? To make matters worse, not 2 hours later a friend of mine came up with a 3 month old (give or take, my estimate) golden retriever puppy that they had found walking next to the highway this afternoon where somebody had obviously dumped her. What is wrong with people?

**For those who care: vet says he thinks the ferret will be fine. She's very, very sore and not active right now. She's on some pain meds for it, poor thing.

Man that is a awesome avatar

Also you should keep an eye on your ferret because some people are freaked out by those things and will like smack it and stuff. And yes, some people should ahve more consideration for animals because they do feel pain just like we do.

I'm very sorry to hear about that. I cant bring myself to watch the animal cop shoes on animal planet for those reasons. I've always wondered that exact same question. I'm not sure why but im alot more affected by a person killing an innocent animal (other than hunting purposes) than a human killing another human. Call me insane or whatever, thats just how I am, unless the person killed had some sort of connection to me.

On a positive note, I'm glad to know the ferret is going to make it!

Best of luck!

EDIT: This morning coming home, I moved a HUGE turtle out of the road, at least 20 years old, and about as wide as my hand if i spread my fingers all the way out, and my hands are slightly bigger than most. He was from about my pinky to my thumb, the width of his shell was, a decent size. When i put him in the tree area behind my house, i went to go inside only to find a ratsnake coiled around my garage door doorknob and a handle, i was freaking out, I will see if i can get the picture off of my phone somehow. He has been placed out in the woods back where he belongs. He was about 4ft long.

Im glad everything is okay and I'm sorry you feel that way - and honestly I'd be pissed off too.

But on that note: I would never let my animal run around with no leash like that if it had the least bit of inclination of escaping or has little to no recall whatsoever. Now unless you posted a sign for people saying loose ferret in the vicinity or something - you cant really expect much from that girl. I mean, what if your ferret got through - would you have known? Would you find it easily? Who would be to blame then?

Also you should keep an eye on your ferret because some people are freaked out by those things and will like smack it and stuff. And yes, some people should ahve more consideration for animals because they do feel pain just like we do.

Half-Life_man

Yeah, I know. It's a practically empty apt building cause it's brand new and it's fairly upscale which usually seems to correlate to a different approach to animals, so it's not something I've really worried about. Been doing it for 2 months now and this is the 1st problem I've had.

In all honesty, I don't blame her for what happened initially. S*** happens, I probably should have been paying more attention, etc. It's how she reacted once she realized what was going on and what had happened that stuns me.

I'm very sorry to hear about that. I cant bring myself to watch the animal cop shoes on animal planet for those reasons. I've always wondered that exact same question. I'm not sure why but im alot more affected by a person killing an innocent animal (other than hunting purposes) than a human killing another human. Call me insane or whatever, thats just how I am, unless the person killed had some sort of connection to me.

On a positive note, I'm glad to know the ferret is going to make it!

Best of luck!

MasterChief4249

Well animals atleast pet animals are usually like kids. There innocent and helpless. That is why you and for me can't stand animal cruelity.

I mean, what if your ferret got through - would you have known? Would you find it easily? Who would be to blame then?

Sajedene

That door leads to a long hallway with apartment doors on either side and the only way out is via the elevator. If she'd gotten in there, she wouldn't have been hard to find. Plus, she IMMEDIATELY comes to the sound of a toy of hers and makes noise etc if she can't get to it for whatever reason (eg: wrong side of a door).

In all honesty, I don't blame her for what happened initially. S*** happens, I probably should have been paying more attention, etc. It's how she reacted once she realized what was going on and what had happened that stuns me.nosferatu

Maybe it stunned her? Maybe she thought it was some sort of giant rodent of some kind and she didnt know what to do? I get how you feel - just trying to play devil's advocate here.

I find it sickening when people are cruel to animals because animals are trusting and defenseless, it's far worse than when a human hurts another human imo.Bloodaxe726

i support you sir.

[QUOTE="nosferatu"]In all honesty, I don't blame her for what happened initially. S*** happens, I probably should have been paying more attention, etc. It's how she reacted once she realized what was going on and what had happened that stuns me.Sajedene

Maybe it stunned her? Maybe she thought it was some sort of giant rodent of some kind and she didnt know what to do? I get how you feel - just trying to play devil's advocate here.

I dunno, I guess I don't get it because I don't have a reaction like that and can't imagine anybody having one. I see an animal suffering (3ft long rats and all) in a situation that I can EASILY remedy and my mind doesn't even think, I help the creature.

This one time, my mom stepped on my parrot with high heel shoes and then she says "WHY THE HELL DO YOUR LEAVE YOUR BIRD ON THE FLOOR!" She knows we never leave our parrot in the cage, because it absolutely hates the cage.Ilived

We had a cockatoo when I still lived with my parents. Parrots are big birds, kinda hard to imagine not seeing a big, brightly colored creature walking across the floor.

It's funny how people never like to take responsibility for their mistakes. This is an exampl at an extreme, but none of us like to. How many times have we stubbed our toe on a table or something and gone "Stupid effing table..."?

[QUOTE="Ilived"]This one time, my mom stepped on my parrot with high heel shoes and then she says "WHY THE HELL DO YOUR LEAVE YOUR BIRD ON THE FLOOR!" She knows we never leave our parrot in the cage, because it absolutely hates the cage.nosferatu

We had a cockatoo when I still lived with my parents. Parrots are big birds, kinda hard to imagine not seeing a big, brightly colored creature walking across the floor.

Lol I forgot what they are called but my parrot isn't those big ones. It is about the size of a cockatiel. I love my bird, I put it on top of its cage and I go up to my room, it actually follows me all the way to my room...knows where it is. Climbs on my bed and goes to my left shoulder always when I'm reading a book.

I too care very much for animals and that really is too bad, some people are just heartless and have no consideration, If I were you I would be absolutely pissed I'd be like b**** get over so I can slam you in that door!

[QUOTE="Sajedene"]

[QUOTE="nosferatu"]In all honesty, I don't blame her for what happened initially. S*** happens, I probably should have been paying more attention, etc. It's how she reacted once she realized what was going on and what had happened that stuns me.nosferatu

Maybe it stunned her? Maybe she thought it was some sort of giant rodent of some kind and she didnt know what to do? I get how you feel - just trying to play devil's advocate here.

I dunno, I guess I don't get it because I don't have a reaction like that and can't imagine anybody having one. I see an animal suffering (3ft long rats and all) in a situation that I can EASILY remedy and my mind doesn't even think, I help the creature.

Yeah I get ya. I would be the same way. I hope she apologized profusely at least - or even offered to help with the vet check.

Figured I'd put this out into the world since I'm still stunned by it hours later.

I was sitting out in my apartment building's enclosed courtyard area studying earlier today. Like I usually do, I brought my ferret out to let it run around, dig, etc. Anyway, I'm sitting there studying when all of a sudden I hear this horrible screaming noise. It's almost like a squeek toy that has gone insane. It took me a second or 2 to put 2 and 2 together before I sprinted to the source of the noise.

This girl in my building had opened the door to come out and paid no attention whatsoever as she slammed shut a 50lb hurricane door... with my ferret in the doorframe (I assume it was trying to sneak into the building). It started screaming as it was trapped in between the door bottom and the frame of this incredibly heavy door and she just kept walking. She turned around as she saw me start sprinting and just stared at the door. She made no effort to help the poor creature, just stared.

I was a good 150-200ft away and the scream was loud and terrible to me. There's no way she didn't hear it. If I'd heard a god-awful noise like that I would have turned around even if I thought it was just the door squeaking. But to turn around, hear a noise like that, see a trapped animal and do NOTHING? I would think most people's instinct would be to immediately help and that it wouldn't even be something their mind had to process. All she did afterwards was ask "Is it ok?" and when I said I had absolutely no idea she said "Ok" and walked out to go read her book.

Can people really be so absolutely heartless towards animals? To make matters worse, not 2 hours later a friend of mine came up with a 3 month old (give or take, my estimate) golden retriever puppy that they had found walking next to the highway this afternoon where somebody had obviously dumped her. What is wrong with people?

**For those who care: vet says he thinks the ferret will be fine. She's very, very sore and not active right now. She's on some pain meds for it, poor thing.

nosferatu

So...you brought your pet out into a public place, let it run around, neglected to keep an eye on it, and then get upset at OTHER PEOPLE when they failed to give a **** about your pet?

I'm with Geezer on this one. A pet like that....its almost like bringing your snake or lizard outside while you have your face in a book.

Im glad everything is okay and I'm sorry you feel that way - and honestly I'd be pissed off too.

But on that note: I would never let my animal run around with no leash like that if it had the least bit of inclination of escaping or has little to no recall whatsoever. Now unless you posted a sign for people saying loose ferret in the vicinity or something - you cant really expect much from that girl. I mean, what if your ferret got through - would you have known? Would you find it easily? Who would be to blame then?

Sajedene

Yeah, it's like those people who let their cats run around the neighborhood, and then expect sympathy when the things get run over.

It's like, "what did you expect?" If they cared about their pets, why were they letting them play in the ****ing street?

And even worse are the people who let their DOGS run around, and then get all defensive when their dogs bite someone and the county siezes their dogs and puts them to sleep. It's like, they have no one to blame for themselves. If they wouldn't have allowed their 150 pound rottweillers to have access to small tasty children, this wouldn't have ever been a ****ing issue.

There've been at least 3 occasions when I've been walking down the street minding my own business, and I've been threatened by dogs that people let run loose. Thankfully I had my dagger on my. I never had to use it, but I've needed to pull it out on all three occasions. And those dogs are lucky as **** that they decided to back off, because I don't pull out a weapon unless I damn well intend to use it. You keep pets, you keep those ****ers on a short ****ing leash when you're in public. Because it's NOT other peoples' job to look after your pets, and just because it's nice to you doesn't mean it's gonna be nice to some 4 year old kid walking home from school in the afternoon.

So...you brought your pet out into a public place, let it run around, neglected to keep an eye on it, and then get upset at OTHER PEOPLE when they failed to give a **** about your pet?

MrGeezer

Read the rest of the thread.... It's not a truly public place. Access is restricted to a very small number of people (we're talking 20 people if only the people who are supposed to be able to use it are the only ones using it and not strangers with friends giving them security keycards). I absolutely would expect someone to care when they injure someone else's pet (or any creature for that matter). I don't blame her for it happening, I blame her for not caring and doing absolutely nothing to try and fix the problem once she realized what was going on. Perhaps you are just one of those people though.... EDIT: I take it back. Just read your post and you are one of those people.

[QUOTE="nosferatu"][QUOTE="Sajedene"]

[QUOTE="nosferatu"]In all honesty, I don't blame her for what happened initially. S*** happens, I probably should have been paying more attention, etc. It's how she reacted once she realized what was going on and what had happened that stuns me.Sajedene

Maybe it stunned her? Maybe she thought it was some sort of giant rodent of some kind and she didnt know what to do? I get how you feel - just trying to play devil's advocate here.

I dunno, I guess I don't get it because I don't have a reaction like that and can't imagine anybody having one. I see an animal suffering (3ft long rats and all) in a situation that I can EASILY remedy and my mind doesn't even think, I help the creature.

Yeah I get ya. I would be the same way. I hope she apologized profusely at least - or even offered to help with the vet check.

Neither. It was pretty much the cursory "Think it will be ok?" as she walked off....

You should have had it on a leash. They do have leashes for ferrets. And yeah that girl was a b****. Especially when she realized it was your pet, if she even realized.

People around where I live will run over cats and just leave them in the middle of the road. Soon another car runs over the dead cat and then another and another until the cat is pancaked to the road. Same thing happens with oppossums. I can't figure out why someone would do that, at least move it to the side of the road.

Another thing that is wierd, at least in this state. It is illegal to run over a dog, you will be fined if caught and even jailed if the owners push it. But not illegal to run over a cat.

You should have had it on a leash. They do have leashes for ferrets. And yeah that girl was a b****. Especially when she realized it was your pet, if she even realized.

People around where I live will run over cats and just leave them in the middle of the road. Soon another car runs over the dead cat and then another and another until the cat is pancaked to the road. Same thing happens with oppossums. I can't figure out why someone would do that, at least move it to the side of the road.

Another thing that is wierd, at least in this state. It is illegal to run over a dog, you will be fined if caught and even jailed if the owners push it. But not illegal to run over a cat.

SunofVich

That is weird. Cat owners/lovers need to start speaking up! lol.

In regards to moving the carcass - you're really not supposed to. You need to call animal control to have them move that. Its something to do with health codes and contaminations and stuff like that.

[QUOTE="Sajedene"]

Im glad everything is okay and I'm sorry you feel that way - and honestly I'd be pissed off too.

But on that note: I would never let my animal run around with no leash like that if it had the least bit of inclination of escaping or has little to no recall whatsoever. Now unless you posted a sign for people saying loose ferret in the vicinity or something - you cant really expect much from that girl. I mean, what if your ferret got through - would you have known? Would you find it easily? Who would be to blame then?

MrGeezer

Yeah, it's like those people who let their cats run around the neighborhood, and then expect sympathy when the things get run over.

It's like, "what did you expect?" If they cared about their pets, why were they letting them play in the ****ing street?

And even worse are the people who let their DOGS run around, and then get all defensive when their dogs bite someone and the county siezes their dogs and puts them to sleep. It's like, they have no one to blame for themselves. If they wouldn't have allowed their 150 pound rottweillers to have access to small tasty children, this wouldn't have ever been a ****ing issue.

There've been at least 3 occasions when I've been walking down the street minding my own business, and I've been threatened by dogs that people let run loose. Thankfully I had my dagger on my. I never had to use it, but I've needed to pull it out on all three occasions. And those dogs are lucky as **** that they decided to back off, because I don't pull out a weapon unless I damn well intend to use it. You keep pets, you keep those ****ers on a short ****ing leash when you're in public. Because it's NOT other peoples' job to look after your pets, and just because it's nice to you doesn't mean it's gonna be nice to some 4 year old kid walking home from school in the afternoon.

It's difficult to understand what you write with all the cursing..

You should have had it on a leash. They do have leashes for ferrets.

SunofVich

Yeah, she has a leash for when I actually take her outside. Think of this place as kind of a rooftop garden kind of area for my building. I've done a thorough check and this door was the only thing that ever concerned me. It closes slowly if you let the auto-door thing close though (at least enough time I figured the ferret could get through if it happened). I never counted on somebody walking out and slamming the door behind them (well, as much as slammed could be when you're flinging a 50lb hurricane door back as you walk against the resistance of the auto-mechanism). I guess it was just fast enough she couldn't get up the step fast enough to get out of its way, it closed just above her pelvis.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

So...you brought your pet out into a public place, let it run around, neglected to keep an eye on it, and then get upset at OTHER PEOPLE when they failed to give a **** about your pet?

nosferatu

Read the rest of the thread.... It's not a truly public place. Access is restricted to a very small number of people. I absolutely would expect someone to care when they injure someone else's pet (or any creature for that matter). I don't blame her for it happening, I blame her for not caring and doing absolutely nothing to try and fix the problem once she realized what was going on. Perhaps you are just one of those people though.... EDIT: I take it back. Just read your post and you are one of those people.

[QUOTE="nosferatu"][QUOTE="Sajedene"]

[QUOTE="nosferatu"]In all honesty, I don't blame her for what happened initially. S*** happens, I probably should have been paying more attention, etc. It's how she reacted once she realized what was going on and what had happened that stuns me.Sajedene

Maybe it stunned her? Maybe she thought it was some sort of giant rodent of some kind and she didnt know what to do? I get how you feel - just trying to play devil's advocate here.

I dunno, I guess I don't get it because I don't have a reaction like that and can't imagine anybody having one. I see an animal suffering (3ft long rats and all) in a situation that I can EASILY remedy and my mind doesn't even think, I help the creature.

Yeah I get ya. I would be the same way. I hope she apologized profusely at least - or even offered to help with the vet check.

Neither. It was pretty much the cursory "Think it will be ok?" as she walked off....

If I bring my pet water snake out into the park, and then let it run around unattended, and then some ignorant ****er chops its head off because they don't know anything about snakes and mistake it for a deadly cottonmouth snake, WHOSE fault is that?

Is it the killer's fault for not having ever felt the inclination to actually study snakes, or is it my ****ing fault for letting a snake run around in public?

Dude, I love animals. I'd never hurt an animal unless I was gonna eat it. But when you keep pets (ESPECIALLY weird ass pets), it's YOUR responsibility to look after it. I can't leave my pet crab to walk around in the park, and then get mad when someone takes it home and eats it.

If I bring my pet water snake out into the park, and then let it run around unattended, and then some ignorant ****er chops its head off because they don't know anything about snakes and mistake it for a deadly cottonmouth snake, WHOSE fault is that?

Is it the killer's fault for not having ever felt the inclination to actually study snakes, or is it my ****ing fault for letting a snake run around in public?

Dude, I love animals. I'd never hurt an animal unless I was gonna eat it. But when you keep pets (ESPECIALLY weird ass pets), it's YOUR responsibility to look after it. I can't leave my pet crab to walk around in the park, and then get mad when someone takes it home and eats it.

MrGeezer

You have a gross misunderstanding of the "park" here. It's an apartment building rooftop garden with security card restricted access to maybe 20 people, but the building is new and most places are still empty. 2nd, ferrets aren't weird pets. They are a completely domesticated species and have been for THOUSANDS of years (the ancient Greeks kept them). They are so domesticated that they are completely incapable of survival away from humans for more than a couple days. Most vets don't classify them as "exotic" pets like they do snakes, etc. I have yet to meet a person who doesn't immediately recognize it as a ferret.

In addition, there's a big difference between encountering a dangerous (you picked water moccassin) snake in a natural seeming habitat than a small furry creature in a rooftop garden.

[QUOTE="nosferatu"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

So...you brought your pet out into a public place, let it run around, neglected to keep an eye on it, and then get upset at OTHER PEOPLE when they failed to give a **** about your pet?

MrGeezer

Read the rest of the thread.... It's not a truly public place. Access is restricted to a very small number of people. I absolutely would expect someone to care when they injure someone else's pet (or any creature for that matter). I don't blame her for it happening, I blame her for not caring and doing absolutely nothing to try and fix the problem once she realized what was going on. Perhaps you are just one of those people though.... EDIT: I take it back. Just read your post and you are one of those people.

[QUOTE="nosferatu"][QUOTE="Sajedene"]

[QUOTE="nosferatu"]In all honesty, I don't blame her for what happened initially. S*** happens, I probably should have been paying more attention, etc. It's how she reacted once she realized what was going on and what had happened that stuns me.Sajedene

Maybe it stunned her? Maybe she thought it was some sort of giant rodent of some kind and she didnt know what to do? I get how you feel - just trying to play devil's advocate here.

I dunno, I guess I don't get it because I don't have a reaction like that and can't imagine anybody having one. I see an animal suffering (3ft long rats and all) in a situation that I can EASILY remedy and my mind doesn't even think, I help the creature.

Yeah I get ya. I would be the same way. I hope she apologized profusely at least - or even offered to help with the vet check.

Neither. It was pretty much the cursory "Think it will be ok?" as she walked off....

If I bring my pet water snake out into the park, and then let it run around unattended, and then some ignorant ****er chops its head off because they don't know anything about snakes and mistake it for a deadly cottonmouth snake, WHOSE fault is that?

Is it the killer's fault for not having ever felt the inclination to actually study snakes, or is it my ****ing fault for letting a snake run around in public?

Dude, I love animals. I'd never hurt an animal unless I was gonna eat it. But when you keep pets (ESPECIALLY weird ass pets), it's YOUR responsibility to look after it. I can't leave my pet crab to walk around in the park, and then get mad when someone takes it home and eats it.

those are natural assumptions, but when someone doesn't show even the slightest remorse it really makes you wonder, I understand completely where you are coming from but the point of this topic is the fact that she didn't give a damn and just walked off.

[QUOTE="SunofVich"]

You should have had it on a leash. They do have leashes for ferrets. And yeah that girl was a b****. Especially when she realized it was your pet, if she even realized.

People around where I live will run over cats and just leave them in the middle of the road. Soon another car runs over the dead cat and then another and another until the cat is pancaked to the road. Same thing happens with oppossums. I can't figure out why someone would do that, at least move it to the side of the road.

Another thing that is wierd, at least in this state. It is illegal to run over a dog, you will be fined if caught and even jailed if the owners push it. But not illegal to run over a cat.

Sajedene

That is weird. Cat owners/lovers need to start speaking up! lol.

In regards to moving the carcass - you're really not supposed to. You need to call animal control to have them move that. Its something to do with health codes and contaminations and stuff like that.

Where I live, we have oppossums and armadillos getting run over.

Which is sort of cool to have armadillos around here, because armadillos are sort of a cool animal. I think that having a pet armadillo would be pretty badass.

I won't touch them though. Dead or alive, I will not touch ANY wild armadillo. Armadillos are a natural carry of leprosy, and yes, physical contact with dead armadillos can transmit leprosy to humans.

I remember that there was once someone on these forums who said that she got sad when she saw dead animals in the road, and dragged them out of theroad herself and buried them. And I saw, "**** that". That's how you get leprosy. You leave that **** to county workers with full health benefits. They get leprosy dragging armadillos off of the road, I'm sure that's fully covered since it's a necessary part of the job.

Which is sort of cool to have armadillos around here, because armadillos are sort of a cool animal. I think that having a pet armadillo would be pretty badass.

I won't touch them though. Dead or alive, I will not touch ANY wild armadillo. Armadillos are a natural carry of leprosy, and yes, physical contact with dead armadillos can transmit leprosy to humans.

MrGeezer

I was actually about to say that the second I saw that sentence in your post. I'm impressed you knew that. They're the only significant animal reservoir for leprosy in the United States. Fortunately, I believe they tend to carry the less virulent tuberculoid type than the lepromatous type... not that either would be a good one to catch.

You should have had it on a leash. They do have leashes for ferrets. And yeah that girl was a b****. Especially when she realized it was your pet, if she even realized.

People around where I live will run over cats and just leave them in the middle of the road. Soon another car runs over the dead cat and then another and another until the cat is pancaked to the road. Same thing happens with oppossums. I can't figure out why someone would do that, at least move it to the side of the road.

Another thing that is wierd, at least in this state. It is illegal to run over a dog, you will be fined if caught and even jailed if the owners push it. But not illegal to run over a cat.

SunofVich

Why the hell would you move roadkill to the side of the road? If I saw someone stopped, peeling roadkill off the pavement and moving it to the side of the road, I would think they were nuts.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

If I bring my pet water snake out into the park, and then let it run around unattended, and then some ignorant ****er chops its head off because they don't know anything about snakes and mistake it for a deadly cottonmouth snake, WHOSE fault is that?

Is it the killer's fault for not having ever felt the inclination to actually study snakes, or is it my ****ing fault for letting a snake run around in public?

Dude, I love animals. I'd never hurt an animal unless I was gonna eat it. But when you keep pets (ESPECIALLY weird ass pets), it's YOUR responsibility to look after it. I can't leave my pet crab to walk around in the park, and then get mad when someone takes it home and eats it.

nosferatu

You have a gross misunderstanding of the "park" here. It's an apartment building rooftop garden with security card restricted access to maybe 20 people, but the building is new and most places are still empty. 2nd, ferrets aren't weird pets. They are a completely domesticated species and have been for THOUSANDS of years (the ancient Greeks kept them). They are so domesticated that they are completely incapable of survival away from humans for more than a couple days. Most vets don't classify them as "exotic" pets like they do snakes, etc. I have yet to meet a person who doesn't immediately recognize it as a ferret.

In addition, there's a big difference between encountering a dangerous (you picked water moccassin) snake in a natural seeming habitat than a small furry creature in a rooftop garden.

Small furry creatures carry rabies. :|

RABIES, dude. RABIES. We're talking about one of the worst diseases known. Ever seen a rabies victim? This **** is NOT ****ing pretty. THere's no cure. And you have a VERY short window of opportunity to get the vaccine after being bitten, and then you're talking about an inevitably, slow, agonizing death with pretty much a 100% rate of death.

Dude, RABIES. RA-BIES!!! I'd rather get bitten by the most deadly snake on the planet than to get bitten by a cute furry animal with rabies. You get rabies, we're talking about a 100%!!!!!! fatality rate. You get rabies, you ARE gonna die, and it WILL be a horrible death.

Having said that, rabies isn't the issue here. The issue is people imposing their pets on people. Not that long ago, Some jerk's cat decided to have babies and raise them in my yard. Well, **** that. My yard isn't a breeding ground for your people's damn pets. I caught those babies, took them to the pound, and they got put to sleep. There were 3 females in the litter. If each female could produce anopther 3 cats, that's 9 cats that I kept out of my yard just by taking to the pound to be euthanized.

I DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOUR PETS.

Really, the hell with your pets. Cats, dogs, and ferrets are NOT indiginous fauna. I see them running around my place, I dispose of them. I see a big scary dog walking down the street without a tag, I walk it home, take it into my place, and treat it nicely. I then call animal control and they come and take it away, and I don't give a flying **** how the owners feel about that. If they cared about their dogs, they wouldn't have had them running around the streets without identification. More to the poiunt, if they REALLY cared about their pets, they wouldn't have had them running around in the streets AT ALL.

You know what else is cute and furry? RATS. ****ING RATS.

Rats are actually just about the friendliest, most loyal pets that anyone could have. They are highly intelligent animals that exhibit genuine affection towards teir owners.

And do you know what else? I don't give a ****, I see a rat running around, I'm not gonna assume that it's your pet. I'm just gonna kill it. And I actually LIKE rats. The key point here is that when I get a ****ing pet rat, I don't let my "cute furry pet" run around unattended and then get upset when other people treat it as if it's a ****ing rat.

I was just talking about this **** a few days ago. About "special interest" people and how they're freaking nuts. In that other post, I was referring to gamers who think that a presidential candidate's view on videogames are even worthy of mentioning. But thew same applies here. Your dog matters to you guys as much as my pet spider matters to me.
The big difference here is that I don't let my ****ing pet spider run around, and then get upset when other people don't care about it. I used to know a woman like that. One of the nicest woman I've ever knwn, and she'd always walk past my store with her dog on a leash (she HAD IT ON A LEASH). The dog was also the friendliest dog I've ever seen, and it would stop and say hi to everyone it met. So the dog would walk up to me while I'm on my smoke break, and stop as if it was expecting me to pet it. Then the woman would say "hey, he really likes you!"

And then I would be like, "cool."

Then she asked me if I would pet it. And I was like, "I'm sorry, ma'am. You have a very cute dog [I lied, that was about the ugliest dog I've ever seen], but I really don't want to touch it. "

And the **** with whether or not she was offended, because I'm not touching her ****ing dog. That's my right, and I'm not gonna let some ugly feces-eating dog lick my hand just because her owner thinks that it's the cutest thing since Tweety Bird. I don't like your pets and I'm sure you don't like mine. But at least I don't impose my pets on other people.

HA, ferrets are cool.skatatay

That girl makes me sick, that's practically torturing the poor thing.tb254

You want to see torture? THIS is torture.

http://www.google.com/products?q=rat+glue+traps&sourceid=mozilla-search&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&um=1

Exiting the building and failing to save someone's pet while he's sitting around goofing off is NOT torture.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="nosferatu"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

So...you brought your pet out into a public place, let it run around, neglected to keep an eye on it, and then get upset at OTHER PEOPLE when they failed to give a **** about your pet?

fuzzmuffin

Read the rest of the thread.... It's not a truly public place. Access is restricted to a very small number of people. I absolutely would expect someone to care when they injure someone else's pet (or any creature for that matter). I don't blame her for it happening, I blame her for not caring and doing absolutely nothing to try and fix the problem once she realized what was going on. Perhaps you are just one of those people though.... EDIT: I take it back. Just read your post and you are one of those people.

[QUOTE="nosferatu"][QUOTE="Sajedene"]

[QUOTE="nosferatu"]In all honesty, I don't blame her for what happened initially. S*** happens, I probably should have been paying more attention, etc. It's how she reacted once she realized what was going on and what had happened that stuns me.Sajedene

Maybe it stunned her? Maybe she thought it was some sort of giant rodent of some kind and she didnt know what to do? I get how you feel - just trying to play devil's advocate here.

I dunno, I guess I don't get it because I don't have a reaction like that and can't imagine anybody having one. I see an animal suffering (3ft long rats and all) in a situation that I can EASILY remedy and my mind doesn't even think, I help the creature.

Yeah I get ya. I would be the same way. I hope she apologized profusely at least - or even offered to help with the vet check.

Neither. It was pretty much the cursory "Think it will be ok?" as she walked off....

If I bring my pet water snake out into the park, and then let it run around unattended, and then some ignorant ****er chops its head off because they don't know anything about snakes and mistake it for a deadly cottonmouth snake, WHOSE fault is that?

Is it the killer's fault for not having ever felt the inclination to actually study snakes, or is it my ****ing fault for letting a snake run around in public?

Dude, I love animals. I'd never hurt an animal unless I was gonna eat it. But when you keep pets (ESPECIALLY weird ass pets), it's YOUR responsibility to look after it. I can't leave my pet crab to walk around in the park, and then get mad when someone takes it home and eats it.

those are natural assumptions, but when someone doesn't show even the slightest remorse it really makes you wonder, I understand completely where you are coming from but the point of this topic is the fact that she didn't give a damn and just walked off.

Well, she asked if it was okay, didnt she? She didn't even have to do that. I'm sure she really didn't care, but at she put forth the bare minimum effort it takes to pretend that she has the tiniest bit of concern.

Wow I would have taken her text book and thrown it or something else awesome like that 8)

I'm sorry about your ferret dude.

[QUOTE="nosferatu"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

If I bring my pet water snake out into the park, and then let it run around unattended, and then some ignorant ****er chops its head off because they don't know anything about snakes and mistake it for a deadly cottonmouth snake, WHOSE fault is that?

Is it the killer's fault for not having ever felt the inclination to actually study snakes, or is it my ****ing fault for letting a snake run around in public?

Dude, I love animals. I'd never hurt an animal unless I was gonna eat it. But when you keep pets (ESPECIALLY weird ass pets), it's YOUR responsibility to look after it. I can't leave my pet crab to walk around in the park, and then get mad when someone takes it home and eats it.

MrGeezer

You have a gross misunderstanding of the "park" here. It's an apartment building rooftop garden with security card restricted access to maybe 20 people, but the building is new and most places are still empty. 2nd, ferrets aren't weird pets. They are a completely domesticated species and have been for THOUSANDS of years (the ancient Greeks kept them). They are so domesticated that they are completely incapable of survival away from humans for more than a couple days. Most vets don't classify them as "exotic" pets like they do snakes, etc. I have yet to meet a person who doesn't immediately recognize it as a ferret.

In addition, there's a big difference between encountering a dangerous (you picked water moccassin) snake in a natural seeming habitat than a small furry creature in a rooftop garden.

Small furry creatures carry rabies. :|

RABIES, dude. RABIES. We're talking about one of the worst diseases known. Ever seen a rabies victim? This **** is NOT ****ing pretty. THere's no cure. And you have a VERY short window of opportunity to get the vaccine after being bitten, and then you're talking about an inevitably, slow, agonizing death with pretty much a 100% rate of death.

Dude, RABIES. RA-BIES!!! I'd rather get bitten by the most deadly snake on the planet than to get bitten by a cute furry animal with rabies. You get rabies, we're talking about a 100%!!!!!! fatality rate. You get rabies, you ARE gonna die, and it WILL be a horrible death.

Having said that, rabies isn't the issue here. The issue is people imposing their pets on people. Not that long ago, Some jerk's cat decided to have babies and raise them in my yard. Well, **** that. My yard isn't a breeding ground for your people's damn pets. I caught those babies, took them to the pound, and they got put to sleep. There were 3 females in the litter. If each female could produce anopther 3 cats, that's 9 cats that I kept out of my yard just by taking to the pound to be euthanized.

I DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOUR PETS.

Really, the hell with your pets. Cats, dogs, and ferrets are NOT indiginous fauna. I see them running around my place, I dispose of them. I see a big scary dog walking down the street without a tag, I walk it home, take it into my place, and treat it nicely. I then call animal control and they come and take it away, and I don't give a flying **** how the owners feel about that. If they cared about their dogs, they wouldn't have had them running around the streets without identification. More to the poiunt, if they REALLY cared about their pets, they wouldn't have had them running around in the streets AT ALL.

You know what else is cute and furry? RATS. ****ING RATS.

Rats are actually just about the friendliest, most loyal pets that anyone could have. They are highly intelligent animals that exhibit genuine affection towards teir owners.

And do you know what else? I don't give a ****, I see a rat running around, I'm not gonna assume that it's your pet. I'm just gonna kill it. And I actually LIKE rats. The key point here is that when I get a ****ing pet rat, I don't let my "cute furry pet" run around unattended and then get upset when other people treat it as if it's a ****ing rat.

I was just talking about this **** a few days ago. About "special interest" people and how they're freaking nuts. In that other post, I was referring to gamers who think that a presidential candidate's view on videogames are even worthy of mentioning. But thew same applies here. Your dog matters to you guys as much as my pet spider matters to me.
The big difference here is that I don't let my ****ing pet spider run around, and then get upset when other people don't care about it. I used to know a woman like that. One of the nicest woman I've ever knwn, and she'd always walk past my store with her dog on a leash (she HAD IT ON A LEASH). The dog was also the friendliest dog I've ever seen, and it would stop and say hi to everyone it met. So the dog would walk up to me while I'm on my smoke break, and stop as if it was expecting me to pet it. Then the woman would say "hey, he really likes you!"

And then I would be like, "cool."

Then she asked me if I would pet it. And I was like, "I'm sorry, ma'am. You have a very cute dog [I lied, that was about the ugliest dog I've ever seen], but I really don't want to touch it. "

And the **** with whether or not she was offended, because I'm not touching her ****ing dog. That's my right, and I'm not gonna let some ugly feces-eating dog lick my hand just because her owner thinks that it's the cutest thing since Tweety Bird. I don't like your pets and I'm sure you don't like mine. But at least I don't impose my pets on other people.

Wow... I almost never post on these forums, I just read, but you compel me to state my opinion. You have to be one of the most disrespectful people I have seen on this site. I do agree that the TC should have had the ferret on a leash, HOWEVER the lack of a leash does not justify taking an animal to a pound to have it euthanized. Just think, if you ever had children and one of them got lost while you were at a park or something. Now think, what if someone came along and saw a child "without a leash" and said "Y'know, this thing obviously has no owner, I think it's my job to have it killed." I know this example is a bit on the extreme side for you, but not to me. Animals have always been the biggest passion in my life, which is why I'm dedicating myself to helping them in my career.

You act like you own the damn world! You sat there and said "I would never hurt an animal unless I intend to eat it." Okay, whatever, but what about those kittens in your yard? You didn't intend to eat them, but you had them killed! You talk about how you pulled a knife on some dogs that "threatened" you (like I believe for two seconds that you were in any real danger). You go around parading yourself as some macho man who'll kill anything that crosses your path that doesn't have a leash on. Well, I'm not impressed. It's people like you that destroy my faith in humanity. If you can so easily kill an animal, what's next? Bigger animals? Small children? What you don't see is if you were to kill some "stray" animal, you may well have killed someone's child. That animal may have gotten lost, it could happen to anyone. Think about that the next time you "pull your knife."

MrGeezer is so hardcore :roll:

Seriously get over yourself dude.