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#101 xscrapzx
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I'm very sorry to hear about that. I cant bring myself to watch the animal cop shoes on animal planet for those reasons. I've always wondered that exact same question. I'm not sure why but im alot more affected by a person killing an innocent animal (other than hunting purposes) than a human killing another human. Call me insane or whatever, thats just how I am, unless the person killed had some sort of connection to me.

On a positive note, I'm glad to know the ferret is going to make it!

Best of luck!

EDIT: This morning coming home, I moved a HUGE turtle out of the road, at least 20 years old, and about as wide as my hand if i spread my fingers all the way out, and my hands are slightly bigger than most. He was from about my pinky to my thumb, the width of his shell was, a decent size. When i put him in the tree area behind my house, i went to go inside only to find a ratsnake coiled around my garage door doorknob and a handle, i was freaking out, I will see if i can get the picture off of my phone somehow. He has been placed out in the woods back where he belongs. He was about 4ft long.

MasterChief4249

I always stop to help turtles out, for some reason people are real a******* and just say hey whatever and hit the freaking things. I was driving home from work and someone ran over a snapping turtle, this thing was huge mind you and the road it was on was plenty wide to go around and not hit it, but nooooo someone had to be a real d******* and run it completely over, what the hell is wrong with people?

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#102 MrGeezer
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Did you not read my comment? Who exactly do you think you are, deciding who is "unfit to own pets"?

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I'm just the silly son of a ***** who DOESN'T have his pets repeatedly run over, only to get new pets and have them get run over too.

Hey, a litter of cats in MY backyard is not "pets". If they were "pets", YOU would be raising them at YOUR home. And if they're not pets, they're feral cats, and I'll let the county put them to sleep the same way you'd step on a cockroach or poison a rat.

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#103 MrGeezer
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That's pretty rude really - I mean you have to admit she needs to take some responsibility for it. Obviously she can't do much but at least stick around and show some concern.D3nnyCrane

She DID show some concern. She asked if it was okay. What the hell else was she supposed to do? Give the guy money?

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#104 Raged-wolverine
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Man that is a awesome avatar

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tht's all i gotta say as well

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#105 famicommander
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I'm very glad to hear that the animal is alright. If it had died, reading this would've ruined my night.
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#106 tb254
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The stories in this thread only contribute to my theory that Humanity is universally evil, with only a few exceptions. The reason we got to the top was that we were the meanest, roughest, intelligent, and most ruthless sobs out there.
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#107 MrGeezer
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Read what I wrote to killtactics.... I'm not imposing it on the public. I'm utilizing building facilities in a manner in which they were intended. You really are a moron. Sometimes pets escape. Particularly very inquisitive animals who will find every single fault in your attempts to prevent it. If you think you can 100% prevent an animal from escaping then you are underestimating them or you are keeping them in an extremely confined area that is just cruel.nosferatu

No, you're making excuses for your ineptitude.

If my pet gaboon viper escaped in an apartment building full of children, would the "hey, I can't keep my snakes from escaping" excuse fly?

No. And you know why? Because people aren't very forgiving when they see dead kids who are snakebite victims.

And yet there ARE people who keep DEADLY pets, and make DAMN SURE that they don't escape.

More to the point, most people DON'T have deadly pet vipers, partially because they ARE AFRAID OF IT ESCAPING. As in, they find the consequences of it escaping unacceptable, so THEY JUST DON'T ****ING BUY THE ANIMAL.

And that's the problem here. It's EASY to keep pets from escaping. Largely because animals generally tend to be ****ing stupid. The only way an animal escapes is if you're too lazy to take the proper measures to keep it properly confined, of if it just plain outsmarts you. And if you let a ****ing cat, dog, or ferret outsmart you....you have no business keeping pets.

Dude, do you think that it's a routine occurence for rhinos and angry lions to escape from the ****ing zoo and run amok in the city, eating and goring women and children? No, because ZOOS TAKE PRECATIONS TO PREVENT ESCAPES. And sure, there are the occasional animal escapes. And in EVERY CASE, the cause is HUMAN ERROR. That is, PEOPLE SCREWING UP. You run a zoo and the lion escapes and eats a baby, you DON'T spout off some bull**** about how "hey, there's no way we can stop lions from escaping every once in a while." Because the second you admit that you can't keep the lions contained, that's the second that you admit that your zoo has no business existing. What you do is ADMIT the human screwup. You admit that you ****ed up, determine how to prevent such a ****up from occuring in the future, and then you put those security measures in place.

EXACT SAME THING applies to ownership of ANY animal. Can you control whether or notr there are drunk drivers on your street? Of course not. However, you CAN control whether or not your animal IS IN THE DAMN STREET. If your animal gets run over by a drunk driver, there are many factors, some of them out of your control, that contributed to the beast's death. You CAN'T control most of those factors. However, there is ONE factor that is COMPLETELY in your control, and would have completely prevented your pet from ever being run over. And that's KEEPING YOUR PET OUT OF THE DAMN STREET. If you can't do that, that one simple thing, then you have no business owning pets.

Yes, sometimes pets escape. And EVERY SINGLE TIME that pets escape, it's because the OWNER ****ed up. That's how pet ownership works. And when you **** up and your pet gets hurt or killed, you TAKE RESPONSIBILITY and change what you're doing so that that **** DOESN'T happen again. And if you truly evaluate all options, and you CAN'T keep your pet from escaping while still properly taking care of it, then YOU HAVE NO ****ING BUSINESS BUYING SUCH A PET.

I don't have a burmese python. I think they're ****ing cool, but I'm not gonna get one. Because I /know that I can't properly care for one. So I just plain don't get one. I DON'T get any pet that I can't keep from escaping, and neither should anyone else.

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#108 vito_128
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We shoulod treat animals with respect although I guess I would have been freaked out about that one...

On the bright side the ferret is going to be ok and you have an awesome avatar.

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#109 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="MasterChief4249"]

I'm very sorry to hear about that. I cant bring myself to watch the animal cop shoes on animal planet for those reasons. I've always wondered that exact same question. I'm not sure why but im alot more affected by a person killing an innocent animal (other than hunting purposes) than a human killing another human. Call me insane or whatever, thats just how I am, unless the person killed had some sort of connection to me.

On a positive note, I'm glad to know the ferret is going to make it!

Best of luck!

EDIT: This morning coming home, I moved a HUGE turtle out of the road, at least 20 years old, and about as wide as my hand if i spread my fingers all the way out, and my hands are slightly bigger than most. He was from about my pinky to my thumb, the width of his shell was, a decent size. When i put him in the tree area behind my house, i went to go inside only to find a ratsnake coiled around my garage door doorknob and a handle, i was freaking out, I will see if i can get the picture off of my phone somehow. He has been placed out in the woods back where he belongs. He was about 4ft long.

xscrapzx

I always stop to help turtles out, for some reason people are real a******* and just say hey whatever and hit the freaking things. I was driving home from work and someone ran over a snapping turtle, this thing was huge mind you and the road it was on was plenty wide to go around and not hit it, but nooooo someone had to be a real d******* and run it completely over, what the hell is wrong with people?

With turtles, half the time I doubt that people hit them on purpose.

Granted, I'm sure that a lot of people DO hit them on purpose. But it's EASY to hit a turtle accidentally simply by following too closely to the car in front of you.

And that might be a bad driving issue, but it's not necessarily a "ha ha, **** the turtles!" issue.

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#110 MrGeezer
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The stories in this thread only contribute to my theory that Humanity is universally evil, with only a few exceptions. The reason we got to the top was that we were the meanest, roughest, intelligent, and most ruthless sobs out there.tb254

I don't see any penguins trying to Save The Whales.

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#111 Film-Guy
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[QUOTE="Lone_Wolf5860"]

Did you not read my comment? Who exactly do you think you are, deciding who is "unfit to own pets"?

MrGeezer

I'm just the silly son of a ***** who DOESN'T have his pets repeatedly run over, only to get new pets and have them get run over too.

Hey, a litter of cats in MY backyard is not "pets". If they were "pets", YOU would be raising them at YOUR home. And if they're not pets, they're feral cats, and I'll let the county put them to sleep the same way you'd step on a cockroach or poison a rat.

So you would rather have a litter of kittens killed than make an effort to be kind and either put them up for adoption at a place that won't kill them or give them to somebody who would take care of them?

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#112 the_greenzero
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Yeah that sux, stupid ppl like her annoy the hell outta me, did you at least get an apology or something.
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#113 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="Lone_Wolf5860"]

Did you not read my comment? Who exactly do you think you are, deciding who is "unfit to own pets"?

Film-Guy

I'm just the silly son of a ***** who DOESN'T have his pets repeatedly run over, only to get new pets and have them get run over too.

Hey, a litter of cats in MY backyard is not "pets". If they were "pets", YOU would be raising them at YOUR home. And if they're not pets, they're feral cats, and I'll let the county put them to sleep the same way you'd step on a cockroach or poison a rat.

So you would rather have a litter of kittens killed than make an effort to be kind and either put them up for adoption at a place that won't kill them or give them to somebody who would take care of them?

Absolutely, because **** em.

When you have rats in your apartment, do you try to find good homes for them? Or do you simply set a few rat traps in strategic locations.

EXACT same thing.

I don't like cats in my yard any more than the rest of you people like rats in your kitchen. And a cat in my yard without a collar is NO ONE'S pet. It has no right to exist, and local government has set up facilities where I can take them to have them legally killed. Just like how Wal-Mart legally sells products that snap a nasty ass rat's neck. I go through legal measures to kill cats and dogs that wander onto my property, just like how the rest of you use legal measures to kill any ****ing rat you see.

If you see a rat in your home, do you try to put it up for adoption (since, after all, lots of people have pet rats, and supposedly it is impossible to keep pets from escaping)? No, you ****ing kill it, and if it happened to be someone's escaped pet, then they should have kept it properly caged up.

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#114 Ghost_702
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I just hate when people take no care in animals, those that don't care if they're in pain or trouble or anything. I have 4 dogs and a couple cats and parrots and stuff and I hate to see them hurt. People need to be more considerate. You should've slapped that person in the face and slammed her in the door to see how she likes it.
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#115 Zaeryn
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[QUOTE="Hinata237"]

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]What a b****, seriously :|DivergeUnify

Nah, not really.

Excuse me?I guess that could be expected from someone who likes to slit their wrists, because it feels good

That really has a lot to do with it.
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#116 Kenny789
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Good to hear the ferret's alright. I don't know what I'd do if someone hurt my dog, I love him so much :P
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#117 nosferatu
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Geezer - You are a think you know it all, profane, condescending, self-centered jerk. Yes, there absolutely are ways to 100% prevent animals from escaping, but that usually requires strict confinement in a smaller cage and that is just cruel. The larger an area you give an animal, the more difficult it is to control it but the better it is for the animal (we take the same approach to children, heck, ourselves when deciding what is safe and what is dangerous). You have to find that balance where the chances of it escaping are minimal and do every precaution you can to prevent it, but that doesn't mean you should keep it locked in a tiny cage 24/7. Zoos are on a whole different scale considering it's 24/7 professional staff, large areas, totally different budgets, etc. If I had the money to hire 3 people to watch after a dog, could afford to purchase a massive yard and surround it with huge walls, etc we're talking completely different circumstances.

You are pulling out unequal analogies and using exhaustive hyperbole to try and prove a point that very few people will agree with you on. Mostly because you advocate animal cruelty, plain and simple. Other than the time you said that you aren't cruel to animals, everything you've said says that you are and are at the 1st chance you see. I am willing to bet that your viper lives in a glass terrarium and that that is your way of preventing its escape. I'm going to say that that is just sad that it spends its life in a small glass cage so that you can look at it once in a while. That's the reason I would never have a pet that is dangerous to others. I could never be happy about having to keep the creature so confined. I'd argue that you are mistreating an animal purely for your own enjoyment.

Not that any of this is even remotely related to my story though. My ferret has not once escaped (although I'm sure some day she will probably find a way to get into the rest of my apartment from the bedroom she is in so I've gone to lengths to ensure that that area is safe and as escape proof as practical as well). In this case, she didn't escape and get hurt, she was in a large, confined area that she was incapable of escaping from without human assistance. She was in an area designated as a pet zone. Explain to me how that is analogous to someone's dog escaping and getting hit by a truck.

Here's how I take your approach to animals: If you had seen the puppy walking down the highway that my friend had you would have thought you only had 3 options. Swerve to hit the dog and put it out of its misery since its owners must hate it so much. Leave the dog on the side of the road because it's too much to help a helpless animal that nobody cares about anyway. Or call animal control because that 3 month old puppy needs to be put down; its owners are too irresponsible. Heaven forbid the idea that perhaps they have a little kid or something who just doesn't know better and left a door open, right? It is OBVIOUSLY the animal's fault if their owner made a mistake or doesn't care about them, right? Punish the animal.

Your language, your tone, heck, your personality are completely obnoxious. Narcissism is not an attractive trait.

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#118 MrGeezer
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Geezer - You are a think you know it all, profane, condescending, self-centered jerk. Yes, there absolutely are ways to 100% prevent animals from escaping, but that usually requires strict confinement in a smaller cage and that is just cruel. The larger an area you give an animal, the more difficult it is to control it but the better it is for the animal (we take the same approach to children, heck, ourselves when deciding what is safe and what is dangerous). You have to find that balance where the chances of it escaping are minimal and do every precaution you can to prevent it, but that doesn't mean you should keep it locked in a tiny cage 24/7. Zoos are on a whole different scale considering it's 24/7 professional staff, large areas, totally different budgets, etc. If I had the money to hire 3 people to watch after a dog, could afford to purchase a massive yard and surround it with huge walls, etc we're talking completely different circumstances.

You are pulling out unequal analogies and using exhaustive hyperbole to try and prove a point that very few people will agree with you on. Mostly because you advocate animal cruelty, plain and simple. Other than the time you said that you aren't cruel to animals, everything you've said says that you are and are at the 1st chance you see. I am willing to bet that your viper lives in a glass terrarium and that that is your way of preventing its escape. I'm going to say that that is just sad that it spends its life in a small glass cage so that you can look at it once in a while. That's the reason I would never have a pet that is dangerous to others. I could never be happy about having to keep the creature so confined. I'd argue that you are mistreating an animal purely for your own enjoyment.

Not that any of this is even remotely related to my story though. My ferret has not once escaped (although I'm sure some day she will probably find a way to get into the rest of my apartment from the bedroom she is in so I've gone to lengths to ensure that that area is safe and as escape proof as practical as well). In this case, she didn't escape and get hurt, she was in a large, confined area that she was incapable of escaping from without human assistance. She was in an area designated as a pet zone. Explain to me how that is analogous to someone's dog escaping and getting hit by a truck.

Here's how I take your approach to animals: If you had seen the puppy walking down the highway that my friend had you would have thought you only had 3 options. Swerve to hit the dog and put it out of its misery since its owners must hate it so much. Leave the dog on the side of the road because it's too much to help a helpless animal that nobody cares about anyway. Or call animal control because that 3 month old puppy needs to be put down; its owners are too irresponsible. Heaven forbid the idea that perhaps they have a little kid or something who just doesn't know better and left a door open, right? It is OBVIOUSLY the animal's fault if their owner made a mistake or doesn't care about them, right? Punish the animal.

Your language, your tone, heck, your personality are completely obnoxious. Narcissism is not an attractive trait.

nosferatu

No, YOU advocate animal cruelty. YOU are the one whose ferret was screaming because it got slammed in the door. Other people here have to scrape their dead dogs/cats off the road.

Know how many cats and dogs have suffered cruelty as a result of how I was taking care of them as a pet? NONE, ZERO. That's because I DON'T OWN CATS. I don't own dogs, ferrets, vipers, etc.

The issue here is that after the girl saw that your ferret was trapped, she didn't help it. Ever think that maybe she was afraid of getting bitten? Hey, no one's EVER been bitten by a scared animal, have they? :roll:

And THAT'S why people do things like leave their dogs in their front yard unrestrained. They figure, "hey, it doesn't bite me, so it's not gonna bite anyone else." Thing is, it often doesn't work out that way, and the dog DOES bite the first stranger that it sees walking down the street. But whether or not a dog/ferret/cat actually will bite someone else isn't the point. The point is that YOU are deciding that interacting with that animal is a risk that they should take, and NO ONE has any business making that decision for SOMEONE ELSE.

Also, how much NATIVE wildlife do you think dies as a result of people's pets running around? Why should NATIVE birds get eaten by someone's PET, simply because they think it's cruel to keep it inside?

The thing is, you DIDN'T have to not get a ferret in order to keep it from getting hurt. There's one very simple thing you could have done, and that's KEEP AN EYE ON IT. What, do you think that WATCHING IT was cruel? You say that the courtyard is built for people to take their pets there. Well, never mind the humans that interact with it. What about THE OTHER PETS? Consider the possibility that some of the other animals might decide that they don't like your ferret? All of this could have been avoided if you'd just kept an eye on it. That's easy to do, and would have been no more restrictive to the animal than NOT keeping an eye on it.

But that's the thing about pet owners. They're always making excuses.

EDIT: And I once knew a person who NEARLY DIED trying to AVOID a ****ing cat that ran into the road. But I'm sure that pet owners don't give a **** about THAT. Hey, the hell with PEOPLE, all that matters is that my cat gets to be happy and go wherever it wants to.

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#119 Oriental_Jams
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Glad to hear your ferret is OK, but she was probably just in shock.
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#120 LJS9502_basic
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No, YOU advocate animal cruelty. YOU are the one whose ferret was screaming because it got slammed in the door. Other people here have to scrape their dead dogs/cats off the road.

Know how many cats and dogs have suffered cruelty as a result of how I was taking care of them as a pet? NONE, ZERO. That's because I DON'T OWN CATS. I don't own dogs, ferrets, vipers, etc.

The issue here is that after the girl saw that your ferret was trapped, she didn't help it. Ever think that maybe she was afraid of getting bitten? Hey, no one's EVER been bitten by a scared animal, have they? :roll:

And THAT'S why people do things like leave their dogs in their front yard unrestrained. They figure, "hey, it doesn't bite me, so it's not gonna bite anyone else." Thing is, it often doesn't work out that way, and the dog DOES bite the first stranger that it sees walking down the street. But whether or not a dog/ferret/cat actually will bite someone else isn't the point. The point is that YOU are deciding that interacting with that animal is a risk that they should take, and NO ONE has any business making that decision for SOMEONE ELSE.

Also, how much NATIVE wildlife do you think dies as a result of people's pets running around? Why should NATIVE birds get eaten by someone's PET, simply because they think it's cruel to keep it inside?

The thing is, you DIDN'T have to not get a ferret in order to keep it from getting hurt. There's one very simple thing you could have done, and that's KEEP AN EYE ON IT. What, do you think that WATCHING IT was cruel? You say that the courtyard is built for people to take their pets there. Well, never mind the humans that interact with it. What about THE OTHER PETS? Consider the possibility that some of the other animals might decide that they don't like your ferret? All of this could have been avoided if you'd just kept an eye on it. That's easy to do, and would have been no more restrictive to the animal than NOT keeping an eye on it.

But that's the thing about pet owners. They're always making excuses.

EDIT: And I once knew a person who NEARLY DIED trying to AVOID a ****ing cat that ran into the road. But I'm sure that pet owners don't give a **** about THAT. Hey, the hell with PEOPLE, all that matters is that my cat gets to be happy and go wherever it wants to.

MrGeezer

He's not advocating animal cruelty.:|

The person you know was driving too fast then...it's easy to avoid animals in the road when you obey the speed limit. Cats and dogs aren't on the highway.

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#121 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

No, YOU advocate animal cruelty. YOU are the one whose ferret was screaming because it got slammed in the door. Other people here have to scrape their dead dogs/cats off the road.

Know how many cats and dogs have suffered cruelty as a result of how I was taking care of them as a pet? NONE, ZERO. That's because I DON'T OWN CATS. I don't own dogs, ferrets, vipers, etc.

The issue here is that after the girl saw that your ferret was trapped, she didn't help it. Ever think that maybe she was afraid of getting bitten? Hey, no one's EVER been bitten by a scared animal, have they? :roll:

And THAT'S why people do things like leave their dogs in their front yard unrestrained. They figure, "hey, it doesn't bite me, so it's not gonna bite anyone else." Thing is, it often doesn't work out that way, and the dog DOES bite the first stranger that it sees walking down the street. But whether or not a dog/ferret/cat actually will bite someone else isn't the point. The point is that YOU are deciding that interacting with that animal is a risk that they should take, and NO ONE has any business making that decision for SOMEONE ELSE.

Also, how much NATIVE wildlife do you think dies as a result of people's pets running around? Why should NATIVE birds get eaten by someone's PET, simply because they think it's cruel to keep it inside?

The thing is, you DIDN'T have to not get a ferret in order to keep it from getting hurt. There's one very simple thing you could have done, and that's KEEP AN EYE ON IT. What, do you think that WATCHING IT was cruel? You say that the courtyard is built for people to take their pets there. Well, never mind the humans that interact with it. What about THE OTHER PETS? Consider the possibility that some of the other animals might decide that they don't like your ferret? All of this could have been avoided if you'd just kept an eye on it. That's easy to do, and would have been no more restrictive to the animal than NOT keeping an eye on it.

But that's the thing about pet owners. They're always making excuses.

EDIT: And I once knew a person who NEARLY DIED trying to AVOID a ****ing cat that ran into the road. But I'm sure that pet owners don't give a **** about THAT. Hey, the hell with PEOPLE, all that matters is that my cat gets to be happy and go wherever it wants to.

LJS9502_basic

He's not advocating animal cruelty.:|

The person you know was driving too fast then...it's easy to avoid animals in the road when you obey the speed limit. Cats and dogs aren't on the highway.

Let's do a little math problem. Suppose the speed limit is 40, and you are driving down the road at 35. Now suppose that a cat darts out in front of your car at a distance of 20 feet in front of your car.

Question: at 35 mph, how long does it take a car to cover 20 feet?

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#122 LJS9502_basic
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Let's do a little math problem. Suppose the speed limit is 40, and you are driving down the road at 35. Now suppose that a cat darts out in front of your car at a distance of 20 feet in front of your car.

Question: at 35 mph, how long does it take a car to cover 20 feet?

MrGeezer
That's about the speed I drive on side roads......always avoided the animals that dart in front of me.;)
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#123 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

Let's do a little math problem. Suppose the speed limit is 40, and you are driving down the road at 35. Now suppose that a cat darts out in front of your car at a distance of 20 feet in front of your car.

Question: at 35 mph, how long does it take a car to cover 20 feet?

LJS9502_basic

That's about the speed I drive on side roads......always avoided the animals that dart in front of me.;)

And I've never had a pet cat/dog get runover, so there you go.

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#124 LJS9502_basic
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And I've never had a pet cat/dog get runover, so there you go.

MrGeezer
Always refreshing how you bring up a point that has nothing to do with the conversation. Anyway, I'm off to work. Keep your pets safe.
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#125 xscrapzx
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[QUOTE="Film-Guy"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="Lone_Wolf5860"]

Did you not read my comment? Who exactly do you think you are, deciding who is "unfit to own pets"?

MrGeezer

I'm just the silly son of a ***** who DOESN'T have his pets repeatedly run over, only to get new pets and have them get run over too.

Hey, a litter of cats in MY backyard is not "pets". If they were "pets", YOU would be raising them at YOUR home. And if they're not pets, they're feral cats, and I'll let the county put them to sleep the same way you'd step on a cockroach or poison a rat.

So you would rather have a litter of kittens killed than make an effort to be kind and either put them up for adoption at a place that won't kill them or give them to somebody who would take care of them?

Absolutely, because **** em.

When you have rats in your apartment, do you try to find good homes for them? Or do you simply set a few rat traps in strategic locations.

EXACT same thing.

I don't like cats in my yard any more than the rest of you people like rats in your kitchen. And a cat in my yard without a collar is NO ONE'S pet. It has no right to exist, and local government has set up facilities where I can take them to have them legally killed. Just like how Wal-Mart legally sells products that snap a nasty ass rat's neck. I go through legal measures to kill cats and dogs that wander onto my property, just like how the rest of you use legal measures to kill any ****ing rat you see.

If you see a rat in your home, do you try to put it up for adoption (since, after all, lots of people have pet rats, and supposedly it is impossible to keep pets from escaping)? No, you ****ing kill it, and if it happened to be someone's escaped pet, then they should have kept it properly caged up.

Wow what a cold heart son of a ***** you are, are you kidding me right now? You know what I have nothing more to say to an individual that says such garbage as this. I hope you wonder on someones property and they shoot you and say hey he wasn't anyone, I don't want pests on my property.

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#126 cpo335
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At least she didn't oput it in a microwave...
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#127 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

And I've never had a pet cat/dog get runover, so there you go.

LJS9502_basic

Always refreshing how you bring up a point that has nothing to do with the conversation. Anyway, I'm off to work. Keep your pets safe.

I think you did that when you cited the fact that you've never run over a cat as some kind of indication that everyone else's situation is comparable to your own. So I'm just following suit.

Anyway, I'm off to take a nap. Keep your pets out of my yard.

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#128 kingdre
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That really sucks. Poor ferret. :(
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#129 heyfunboy
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I'm a big animal lover but I have to say that that's what you get for having animals roaming around freely.
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#130 LJS9502_basic
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I think you did that when you cited the fact that you've never run over a cat as some kind of indication that everyone else's situation is comparable to your own. So I'm just following suit.

Anyway, I'm off to take a nap. Keep your pets out of my yard.

MrGeezer

Actually...you brought up animals getting run over in the road. Your post. Your idea. Check and mate.

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#131 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

I think you did that when you cited the fact that you've never run over a cat as some kind of indication that everyone else's situation is comparable to your own. So I'm just following suit.

Anyway, I'm off to take a nap. Keep your pets out of my yard.

LJS9502_basic

Actually...you brought up animals getting run over in the road. Your post. Your idea. Check and mate.

I see that you're still not paying attention.

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#132 nosferatu
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

I think you did that when you cited the fact that you've never run over a cat as some kind of indication that everyone else's situation is comparable to your own. So I'm just following suit.

Anyway, I'm off to take a nap. Keep your pets out of my yard.

MrGeezer

Actually...you brought up animals getting run over in the road. Your post. Your idea. Check and mate.

I see that you're still not paying attention.

Go take your nap already. Obviously you're cranky from the lack of sleep.

You clearly are the one who branches the discussion off in anecdotal hyperbole. Note that you've NEVER come back with any reply to any of my rebuttals except for your repetition of my supposed ineptitude as a pet owner because I took my eyes off her for more than a few seconds.

I'm not conceited enough to believe that I and my actions are infallible. Apparently you do if you think you could keep an animal 100% under control. I understand that if I had been watching her 100% of the time this MAY not have happened. I also understand that if I had been watching her 100% of the time she wouldn't have been out on that courtyard at all, she would have been indoors in my bedroom because that is a practical impossibilty with what I need to accomplish at the moment. She is out there, under good (not great) surveillance as a trade off to being locked inside while I study all the time.

It was a small risk, that I have minimized to a practical extent for the past 2 months that happened. I still believe the benefits to this animal over the last 2 months (and probably the future as well, I may just place a sign on the door that says "Please watch for ferret" while she's out there and will see if the closing speed can be slowed as that would be painful for a small child too) far outweigh the small chance there was for this problem.

Sometimes s*** happens, sometimes animals do what they want to do no matter what you tell them and teach them (ever watched a dog psych themselves up to cross their electric fence?). It's no different than a child honestly. You have to draw a line between being overbearing and overly protective or allowing them some freedom. It is a line between safety and happiness/fulfillment. I, and I'm sure many other pet owners and parents, often allow our watched over ones to do things that we understand have a minor risk because we believe the benefits to their growth, health, etc outweigh that risk.

You try so hard to be right all the time. You try so hard that you bring in examples, stories, unrelated anecdotes, etc to make your arguments that frankly are often tangental at best to the point being discussed. You seem to have the audacity to believe you can't be wrong, but you can be (see: your rabies rant). If you raise your children (god forbid these genes get passed on) the same way you expect us to raise our pets I shudder to think what will become of them once they are free of your tyrranical reign.

Now please, get out of here and get off MY lawn. This thread is open to discussion by those who are willing to discuss and do so in a productive manner (notice others have said SOME of the same things you have and haven't been reviled, I wonder why). The minute you started spouting your profanity and all-knowing rhetoric you were unwelcome. Consider this your warning before I call animal control on you to get you off my lawn (a warning you seemed to find unnecessary in your animal dealings).

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#133 MrGeezer
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Now please, get out of here and get off MY lawn. This thread is open to discussion by those who are willing to discuss and do so in a productive manner (notice others have said SOME of the same things you have and haven't been reviled, I wonder why). The minute you started spouting your profanity and all-knowing rhetoric you were unwelcome. Consider this your warning before I call animal control on you to get you off my lawn (a warning you seemed to find unnecessary in your animal dealings).

nosferatu

You don't own this forum, and it's not in your place to tell me where I can post. If you were interested in "discussing things in a productive manner", you would not have constantly been using personal insults against me (against the ToU) or have made this post (which, since it did not address any of my points, is mere trolling).

Now, if you actually want to address the content of my posts, go right ahead.

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#134 nosferatu
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You don't own this forum, and it's not in your place to tell me where I can post. If you were interested in "discussing things in a productive manner", you would not have constantly been using personal insults against me (against the ToU) or have made this post (which, since it did not address any of my points, is mere trolling).

Now, if you actually want to address the content of my posts, go right ahead.

MrGeezer

Are you serious? You pick that paragraph out of the whole lot and then make that statement? That whole post was a rebuttal to your posts. Most of my other posts have been too, you just don't address those. You whittle down each post that every person you argue with has to 1 specific phrase or segment that fits your goals and needs and ignore the rest. You completely ignore anything that is actually contradictory to your posts and keep finding new and more elaborate ways to try and prove your same point over and over again.

You're right, there have been a couple insults directed at you. I looked back and counted a whopping 3 over the course of this whole thread. I called you a moron, I called you a self-centered jerk, and I referred to you as one of the kinds of people that this thread is about. Any other complaints you may have stem from me pointing out your or your arguments' flaws. It can hardly be termed insulting when I have merely illucidated what you have put before the rest of us to read.

If anybody has trolled any thread here, it is most definitely you. You initiated all the unfriendliness here with your profanity and inflammatory tone. Other people have insinuated that I should have watched over my pet better and they received an acknowledgment of that fact, but you deserve a whole other response because of the tone of your writing and have received it from more than just me (I believe I made this point about your tone earlier, but you failed to address that as usual).

Frankly, I'm done with you. If I see your name on a post, I will just skim by it from here on out. Nothing good can come of anything you say in here and I've already heard your same point ad nauseum. I don't need any more of your hyperbole, stories, and close-mindedness.

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#135 Deity_Slapper
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I don't give a ****, I see a rat running around, I'm not gonna assume that it's your pet. I'm just gonna kill it. And I actually LIKE rats.MrGeezer

You don't like rats THAT much if you would just kill it. :roll:

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#136 bobaban
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Well it seemed like an accident, and if you had been keeping an eye on your pet - this wouldn't have happened in the first place. I know you said she didn't seem to care she hurt your pet, but theres nothing you can do to change peoples attitudes.
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#137 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

You don't own this forum, and it's not in your place to tell me where I can post. If you were interested in "discussing things in a productive manner", you would not have constantly been using personal insults against me (against the ToU) or have made this post (which, since it did not address any of my points, is mere trolling).

Now, if you actually want to address the content of my posts, go right ahead.

nosferatu

Are you serious? You pick that paragraph out of the whole lot and then make that statement? That whole post was a rebuttal to your posts. Most of my other posts have been too, you just don't address those. You whittle down each post that every person you argue with has to 1 specific phrase or segment that fits your goals and needs and ignore the rest. You completely ignore anything that is actually contradictory to your posts and keep finding new and more elaborate ways to try and prove your same point over and over again.

You're right, there have been a couple insults directed at you. I looked back and counted a whopping 3 over the course of this whole thread. I called you a moron, I called you a self-centered jerk, and I referred to you as one of the kinds of people that this thread is about. Any other complaints you may have stem from me pointing out your or your arguments' flaws. It can hardly be termed insulting when I have merely illucidated what you have put before the rest of us to read.

If anybody has trolled any thread here, it is most definitely you. You initiated all the unfriendliness here with your profanity and inflammatory tone. Other people have insinuated that I should have watched over my pet better and they received an acknowledgment of that fact, but you deserve a whole other response because of the tone of your writing and have received it from more than just me (I believe I made this point about your tone earlier, but you failed to address that as usual).

Frankly, I'm done with you. If I see your name on a post, I will just skim by it from here on out. Nothing good can come of anything you say in here and I've already heard your same point ad nauseum. I don't need any more of your hyperbole, stories, and close-mindedness.

I figured that the rest of it was a joke or something.

Seeing as how you compared giving pets freedom to giving children some freedom, I figured that you were smart enough to realize that one of the reasons WHY we allow kids to have some level of independence is because we expect them to become RESPONSIBLE, INDEPENDENT ADULTS.

A ferret, on the other hand, is ALWAYS gonna be just a pet. You're not teaching it how to make it on its own, you're gonna be taking care of it til the day that it dies.

I figured that you would be aware of that, but I suppose I was wrong.