wtf is the problem with being h0m0sexual?

[QUOTE="Premier1101"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Premier1101"]

sorry, but artificial insemination is not a natural adaption. Its humans mamipulation of the environment. I use scenarios so you can see where your plan is flawed. Nature doesnt include manipulation. Humans are the only creature able to do it. Along with destroying nature. We can destroy this earth you know? sorry off topic.

Humans arent born to artificially inseminate one antoher :roll: there ya go, thats pretty much the best i can give you

Ring_of_fire

ok dude, you arent getting my point. Artificial insemination is a manipulation of nature. Therefore regarded as unnatural. Why do you think so many people are against such stuff? homosexuality is found yes, but due to the reasons I already stated. My argument is strong. Yours is flawed. I bet mine is to some peoples minds too.

oh and you dont have to be attracted to be bisexual, just the act of having sex with the same sex and the opposite sex makes you bi.

No, sex has very little to do with being gay straight, or bi. It's the attraction of the person that determines that

sexual preference is a choice. Being straight or not is a mind-set. There is a difference between sexual preference and attratciont I know

[QUOTE="_Marisa_"]And for those who believe you aren't born with it, you are. reaver171

Proof? No? Okay.

Isn't it a bit hypocritical for you to be saying that?

okay DeeJay, if you read this, you will now know why I know your WHOLE argument is flawed. Ready?

Definitions of natural on the Web:

• existing in or produced by nature; not artificial or imitation; "a natural pearl"; "natural gas"; "natural silk"; "natural blonde hair"; "a ...
• existing in or in conformity with nature or the observable world; neither supernatural nor magical; "a perfectly natural explanation"

bolded is your argument ending

[QUOTE="_Marisa_"]And for those who believe you aren't born with it, you are. reaver171

Proof? No? Okay.

Bigots just love to believe it's a choice so they can easily hate homosexuals. It's disgusting.

And really, even if it were by some chance choice, why should they hate them more for that?

It's like hating someone for liking the color purple.

You'd think we'd gotten past such primitive discrimination by now.

All kinds of claims in this thread with nothing to back them up.thriteenthmonke

backed. :)

[QUOTE="reaver171"]

[QUOTE="_Marisa_"]And for those who believe you aren't born with it, you are. Ring_of_fire

Proof? No? Okay.

Isn't it a bit hypocritical for you to be saying that?

lol

[QUOTE="reaver171"]

[QUOTE="_Marisa_"]And for those who believe you aren't born with it, you are. _Marisa_

Proof? No? Okay.

Bigots just love to believe it's a choice so they can easily hate homosexuals. It's disgusting.

And really, even if it were by some chance choice, why should they hate them more for that?

It's like hating someone for liking the color purple.

You'd think we'd gotten past such primitive discrimination by now.

I dont hate gays, and I know that they are raised with it and cant change their choice. they can have sex with the opposite sex if they needed to, but I dont see why we should just accept them as people in a modern society.

Who knows. I guess some people like to think they are better than others.foxhound_fox

nobody is better than anybody. Unless your a foxhound fox :P

[QUOTE="reaver171"]

[QUOTE="_Marisa_"]And for those who believe you aren't born with it, you are. Ring_of_fire

Proof? No? Okay.

Isn't it a bit hypocritical for you to be saying that?

Okay lets try this again. You never told me what was horribly wrong about my statements..

[QUOTE="_Marisa_"]

[QUOTE="reaver171"]

[QUOTE="_Marisa_"]And for those who believe you aren't born with it, you are. Premier1101

Proof? No? Okay.

Bigots just love to believe it's a choice so they can easily hate homosexuals. It's disgusting.

And really, even if it were by some chance choice, why should they hate them more for that?

It's like hating someone for liking the color purple.

You'd think we'd gotten past such primitive discrimination by now.

I dont hate gays, and I know that they are raised with it and cant change their choice. they can have sex with the opposite sex if they needed to, but I dont see why we should just accept them as people in a modern society.

[QUOTE="reaver171"]

[QUOTE="_Marisa_"]And for those who believe you aren't born with it, you are. _Marisa_

Proof? No? Okay.

Bigots just love to believe it's a choice so they can easily hate homosexuals. It's disgusting.

And really, even if it were by some chance choice, why should they hate them more for that?

It's like hating someone for liking the color purple.

You'd think we'd gotten past such primitive discrimination by now.

How the hell is he being a bigot? He's stating facts. There is no gene for gayness! None! NADA!

Btw I don't hate gays. I hate their sexual preference but I don't HATE them. There's a big difference there.

[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"][QUOTE="Premier1101"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Premier1101"]

sorry, but artificial insemination is not a natural adaption. Its humans mamipulation of the environment. I use scenarios so you can see where your plan is flawed. Nature doesnt include manipulation. Humans are the only creature able to do it. Along with destroying nature. We can destroy this earth you know? sorry off topic.

Humans arent born to artificially inseminate one antoher :roll: there ya go, thats pretty much the best i can give you

Premier1101

ok dude, you arent getting my point. Artificial insemination is a manipulation of nature. Therefore regarded as unnatural. Why do you think so many people are against such stuff? homosexuality is found yes, but due to the reasons I already stated. My argument is strong. Yours is flawed. I bet mine is to some peoples minds too.

oh and you dont have to be attracted to be bisexual, just the act of having sex with the same sex and the opposite sex makes you bi.

No, sex has very little to do with being gay straight, or bi. It's the attraction of the person that determines that

sexual preference is a choice. Being straight or not is a mind-set. There is a difference between sexual preference and attratciont I know

Sexual prefernce is not a choice. You can choose to have sex with someone you aren't attracted to, but your sexuality isn't a choice.

The APA's definition of a Sexual orientation is:

Sexual orientation refers to an enduring pattern of emotional, romantic, and/or sexual attractions to men, women, or both sexes. Sexual orientation also refers to a person's sense of identity based on those attractions, related behaviors, and membership in a community of others who share those attractions.

The APA also goes on to say that LGBT relationships are a normal form of human relationship.

[QUOTE="Premier1101"][QUOTE="_Marisa_"]

[QUOTE="reaver171"]

[QUOTE="_Marisa_"]And for those who believe you aren't born with it, you are. _Marisa_

Proof? No? Okay.

Bigots just love to believe it's a choice so they can easily hate homosexuals. It's disgusting.

And really, even if it were by some chance choice, why should they hate them more for that?

It's like hating someone for liking the color purple.

You'd think we'd gotten past such primitive discrimination by now.

I dont hate gays, and I know that they are raised with it and cant change their choice. they can have sex with the opposite sex if they needed to, but I dont see why we should just accept them as people in a modern society.

Okay to you, for one, I never said I hated gay people. I don't really see why you're calling me a HORRIBLE HEARTLESS BIGOT because I disagree with homosexuality.

[QUOTE="_Marisa_"]

[QUOTE="reaver171"]

[QUOTE="_Marisa_"]And for those who believe you aren't born with it, you are. Premier1101

Proof? No? Okay.

Bigots just love to believe it's a choice so they can easily hate homosexuals. It's disgusting.

And really, even if it were by some chance choice, why should they hate them more for that?

It's like hating someone for liking the color purple.

You'd think we'd gotten past such primitive discrimination by now.

I dont hate gays, and I know that they are raised with it and cant change their choice. they can have sex with the opposite sex if they needed to, but I dont see why we should just accept them as people in a modern society.

To everyone who says being gay is a choice, I can't help but wonder why someone would choose to be something that is completely looked down upon by society. It's obviously NOT a choice.socked_feet

It is a false premenition (sp?) that is ACTED UPON and acting upon it is a choice. There you go.

[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"][QUOTE="reaver171"]

[QUOTE="_Marisa_"]And for those who believe you aren't born with it, you are. reaver171

Proof? No? Okay.

Isn't it a bit hypocritical for you to be saying that?

Okay lets try this again. You never told me what was horribly wrong about my statements..

Just because no one explicity says you're wrong, doesn't mean you're right. I didn't take your statements seriously, because you had no proof, and was just making up false statements.

[QUOTE="reaver171"]

[QUOTE="_Marisa_"]And for those who believe you aren't born with it, you are. _Marisa_

Proof? No? Okay.

Bigots just love to believe it's a choice so they can easily hate homosexuals. It's disgusting.

And really, even if it were by some chance choice, why should they hate them more for that?

It's like hating someone for liking the color purple.

You'd think we'd gotten past such primitive discrimination by now.

You made the claim. You provide proof. :|

There was one study, but that didn't take into effect the area around the people growing up. Besides it was only one test.

ok dude, you arent getting my point. Artificial insemination is a manipulation of nature. Therefore regarded as unnatural. Why do you think so many people are against such stuff? homosexuality is found yes, but due to the reasons I already stated. My argument is strong. Yours is flawed. I bet mine is to some peoples minds too.

oh and you dont have to be attracted to be bisexual, just the act of having sex with the same sex and the opposite sex makes you bi.

Premier1101

ah I see. Somewhere people made it so those that complain get a glassed over sense of what sexual attraction is.

homosexualtiy used to be choosing to have sex with a member of the opposite sex.

You could be gay and not have sex with the same sex, and have sex with a forced wife(like hundreds of years ago) and not be called a homosexual. the definition has cahnged along with society. I was inawares of that :o

I'm just wondering what you guys think of this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_non-human_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

[QUOTE="socked_feet"]To everyone who says being gay is a choice, I can't help but wonder why someone would choose to be something that is completely looked down upon by society. It's obviously NOT a choice.reaver171

It is a false premenition (sp?) that is ACTED UPON and acting upon it is a choice. There you go.

Why would you think that attraction to a member of the same sex is false?

Just because no one explicity says you're wrong, doesn't mean you're right. I didn't take your statements seriously, because you had no proof, and was just making up false statements.

Ring_of_fire

Oh, what's this?

It's funnier in a sad sort of way that you accepted something that's far from being true

Ring_of_fire

Yeah, you just contradicted yourself.

ah I see. Somewhere people made it so those that complain get a glassed over sense of what sexual attraction is.

homosexualtiy used to be choosing to have sex with a member of the opposite sex.

You could be gay and not have sex with the same sex, and have sex with a forced wife(like hundreds of years ago) and not be called a homosexual. the definition has cahnged along with society. I was inawares of that :o

Premier1101

wtf is up with all these damn threads about it? If you like or dislike gay guys, that's great. Enough arguments about it, it's the same points and judgements EVERY time. God....mohfrontline

That goes for just about any type of thread that involves polarized discussion and debate.

[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]

Just because no one explicity says you're wrong, doesn't mean you're right. I didn't take your statements seriously, because you had no proof, and was just making up false statements.

reaver171

Oh, what's this?

It's funnier in a sad sort of way that you accepted something that's far from being true

Ring_of_fire

Yeah, you just contradicted yourself.

no. I didn't make any outragous lies and claim them were true. My facts i backed up from the American Psychiological Association.

[QUOTE="_Marisa_"][QUOTE="Premier1101"][QUOTE="_Marisa_"]

[QUOTE="reaver171"]

[QUOTE="_Marisa_"]And for those who believe you aren't born with it, you are. reaver171

Proof? No? Okay.

Bigots just love to believe it's a choice so they can easily hate homosexuals. It's disgusting.

And really, even if it were by some chance choice, why should they hate them more for that?

It's like hating someone for liking the color purple.

You'd think we'd gotten past such primitive discrimination by now.

I dont hate gays, and I know that they are raised with it and cant change their choice. they can have sex with the opposite sex if they needed to, but I dont see why we should just accept them as people in a modern society.

Okay to you, for one, I never said I hated gay people. I don't really see why you're calling me a HORRIBLE HEARTLESS BIGOT because I disagree with homosexuality.

[QUOTE="Premier1101"]

ok dude, you arent getting my point. Artificial insemination is a manipulation of nature. Therefore regarded as unnatural. Why do you think so many people are against such stuff? homosexuality is found yes, but due to the reasons I already stated. My argument is strong. Yours is flawed. I bet mine is to some peoples minds too.

oh and you dont have to be attracted to be bisexual, just the act of having sex with the same sex and the opposite sex makes you bi.

DeeJayInphinity

I do the bolded cause I dont argue over the internetz, as its much harder to change peoples minds over the internet slowly than it is in real life. It would be nice if we could argue without flaming ;)

I didnt know that definition was different! :o

they didnt choose to have sex, theres a difference there. I always thought --sexual referred to the choice of having sex with w/e sex it was applicable. I guess society chaneged that definition to attaraction... :roll: another way of pleasing those that argue this stuff.

dude, artifical insemination is not natural. fact.

[QUOTE="Premier1101"]

ah I see. Somewhere people made it so those that complain get a glassed over sense of what sexual attraction is.

homosexualtiy used to be choosing to have sex with a member of the opposite sex.

You could be gay and not have sex with the same sex, and have sex with a forced wife(like hundreds of years ago) and not be called a homosexual. the definition has cahnged along with society. I was inawares of that :o

DeeJayInphinity

artificail insemination is not natural. Come up with a new argument

[QUOTE="reaver171"][QUOTE="_Marisa_"][QUOTE="Premier1101"][QUOTE="_Marisa_"]

[QUOTE="reaver171"]

[QUOTE="_Marisa_"]And for those who believe you aren't born with it, you are. _Marisa_

Proof? No? Okay.

Bigots just love to believe it's a choice so they can easily hate homosexuals. It's disgusting.

And really, even if it were by some chance choice, why should they hate them more for that?

It's like hating someone for liking the color purple.

You'd think we'd gotten past such primitive discrimination by now.

I dont hate gays, and I know that they are raised with it and cant change their choice. they can have sex with the opposite sex if they needed to, but I dont see why we should just accept them as people in a modern society.

Okay to you, for one, I never said I hated gay people. I don't really see why you're calling me a HORRIBLE HEARTLESS BIGOT because I disagree with homosexuality.

My favorite color? That has nothing to do with society, or anything in general. Homosexuality has to do with preference of REPRODUCTION partners and REPRODUCTION happens between a MAN and a WOMAN. What the hell.. my favorite color.. psh.

:lol:at this thread gameroz

i know right why do people even care :lol:

[QUOTE="gameroz"]:lol:at this thread ps3wizard45

i know right why do people even care :lol:

Because pointlessly debating about a completely inconsequential issue in today's society over an internet forum makes you an informed and up-standing citizen.

Anyone who is arguing with reaver right now, there is no gene for being gay NO gene means you are not born with it! Is that really that hard to comprehend! :|battlefront23

Thank God, someone with some sense. Also, everyone is arguing with me :D. I guess being natural and following what your body and mind tell you isn't the cool thing to do.

[QUOTE="ps3wizard45"]

[QUOTE="gameroz"]:lol:at this thread Blood-Scribe

i know right why do people even care :lol:

Because pointlessly debating about a completely inconsequential issue in today's society over an internet forum makes you an informed and up-standing citizen.

damn straight!

but yes. I back my claims. But I learned that they changed the definitions of --sexualities! :o

and the definition of natural completely :o

My favorite color? That has nothing to do with society, or anything in general. Homosexuality has to do with preference of REPRODUCTION partners and REPRODUCTION happens between a MAN and a WOMAN. What the hell.. my favorite color.. psh.

reaver171

I do the bolded cause I dont argue over the internetz, as its much harder to change peoples minds over the internet slowly than it is in real life. It would be nice if we could argue without flaming ;)

I didnt know that definition was different! :o

they didnt choose to have sex, theres a difference there. I always thought --sexual referred to the choice of having sex with w/e sex it was applicable. I guess society chaneged that definition to attaraction... :roll: another way of pleasing those that argue this stuff.

dude, artifical insemination is not natural. fact.

Premier1101

Anyone who is arguing with reaver right now, there is no gene for being gay NO gene means you are not born with it! Is that really that hard to comprehend! :|battlefront23

[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="ps3wizard45"]

[QUOTE="gameroz"]:lol:at this thread Premier1101

i know right why do people even care :lol:

Because pointlessly debating about a completely inconsequential issue in today's society over an internet forum makes you an informed and up-standing citizen.

damn straight!

but yes. I back my claims. But I learned that they changed the definitions of --sexualities! :o

and the definition of natural completely :o

Just sayin'; Definition wars are probably the lowest form of debate.