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#101 Celldrax
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on a side note, sex robots are no different than masturbation with sex toys....Messer_Partei

& women use them all the time.

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#102 Funkdaddy13
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on a side note, sex robots are no different than masturbation with sex toys....Messer_Partei
Not really. Masturbation is the pleasuring of one's self. It's a helluva lot different when you're pretending that toy is someone famous and you've designed it to look like them. Think about it; would you think someone masturbating with a vibrator is weirder than someone using a blow-up doll?
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I've got all 3 of these, you never have to worry about nagging, talking back, and they never complain.


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#104 Panzer-schreck
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[QUOTE="Panzer-schreck"][QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"]

If you have, then you would know that only a desperate person would go for a robot/android. :?Funkdaddy13

Looking at this objectively, the median girl of most population samples I would have to say is probably around 6-7 on the "hotness" scale out of 10. One is lucky if he mananges to get an 8 or higher in bed. Their skill in bed could be anything from 1-10.

So let's say that an optimal realistic situation that an "average" guy can get is a combined score of the two categories of 16 or 17 or so out of 20.

Let's say technology engineers a 10 on both scales, giving you a 20/20. Let's say that the android also has been programmed with a great personality.

Still disgusting? I don't think so.

Panzer-schreck

I had to quote myself here. I have had sex with a girld before, she was probably about a 7 for looks and what I would guess to be about a 7 for skill in bed. Though I really know what she was for ability since I have no references to pit it against. Let's just say that her combined scores lies on the set of numbers [8-17], with what I would figure to be about 14.

If I were having sex with an android, it would be 20.

Surely if you were just having casual sex, you would agree that the prime objective is to get the highest combination of the two numbers.

I could use the same example with beastiality. If someone enjoys having sex with animals, it's still wrong, regardless of how pleasurable it is for them...

That's not a good argument. Sure, you can argue that beastiality is wrong.

That's an accceptable argument because, first of all, animals are organic beings with mental capacities far below humans, so they can't necessarily control their actions or resist.

And, second of all, one of the primary criticisms of beastiality is the argument that such activity is harmful to animals.

Both criteria are not met by androids.

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#105 Funkdaddy13
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Panzer-schreck
:lol: Alright, I admit that it was a bad example but explain to me why you would have sex with an android over a REAL person?
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#106 freshgman
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Thats is disgusting. Is that what we are doing with our money and time. Those scientists should be trying to cure diseases etc
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Thats is disgusting. Is that what we are doing with our money and time. Those scientists should be trying to cure diseases etc freshgman

in a way they are curing disease :|

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#108 Funkdaddy13
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[QUOTE="freshgman"]Thats is disgusting. Is that what we are doing with our money and time. Those scientists should be trying to cure diseases etc Pinbi7_basic

in a way they are curing disease :|

:| That's like saying being abstinent cures disease too...
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#109 Vyse_The_Daring
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I stopped reading when he named Massachusetts as the first place where it would be legal. How would he know that?
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#110 Pinbi7_basic
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[QUOTE="Pinbi7_basic"]

[QUOTE="freshgman"]Thats is disgusting. Is that what we are doing with our money and time. Those scientists should be trying to cure diseases etc Funkdaddy13

in a way they are curing disease :|

:| That's like saying being abstinent cures disease too...

it does and it also feeds poor childrens

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[QUOTE="Panzer-schreck"]Funkdaddy13
:lol: Alright, I admit that it was a bad example but explain to me why you would have sex with an android over a REAL person?

I don't think it's a matter of preferring an android over a real person, but more like being open to the whole idea of it. & hey, I'm all for equality.

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[QUOTE="Panzer-schreck"]Funkdaddy13
:lol: Alright, I admit that it was a bad example but explain to me why you would have sex with an android over a REAL person?

Of course this is all assuming that we're living in 2090 or something. To answer your question, it's because it maximizes the amount of pleasure. 20/20, remember? Though I certainly would never marry an android, for my primary biological function is to have children. Also, it's not that I'd stop having sex with humans. Sometimes the pursuit is half the fun.

And sometimes not so much.

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[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"][QUOTE="Panzer-schreck"]Celldrax

:lol: Alright, I admit that it was a bad example but explain to me why you would have sex with an android over a REAL person?

I don't think it's a matter of preferring an android over a real person, but more like being open to the whole idea of it. & hey, I'm all for equality.

Exactly.

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#114 Funkdaddy13
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[QUOTE="Celldrax"]

[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"][QUOTE="Panzer-schreck"]Panzer-schreck

:lol: Alright, I admit that it was a bad example but explain to me why you would have sex with an android over a REAL person?

I don't think it's a matter of preferring an android over a real person, but more like being open to the whole idea of it. & hey, I'm all for equality.

Exactly.

Either way, it's going to be one of those things only nerds do...
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[QUOTE="SinkO"]So what would we call people who have sex mainly with robots?Funkdaddy13
Nerds...

Robosexuals?

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[QUOTE="Panzer-schreck"][QUOTE="Celldrax"]

[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"][QUOTE="Panzer-schreck"]Funkdaddy13

:lol: Alright, I admit that it was a bad example but explain to me why you would have sex with an android over a REAL person?

I don't think it's a matter of preferring an android over a real person, but more like being open to the whole idea of it. & hey, I'm all for equality.

Exactly.

Either way, it's going to be one of those things only nerds do...

That sounds like the 80's when people were saying that about people that use computers..

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#117 Celldrax
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Either way, it's going to be one of those things only nerds do...Funkdaddy13

Watch Chobits ;) It could be possible than you think.

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#118 tacosrule193
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so futurama was right!
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[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"][QUOTE="Panzer-schreck"][QUOTE="Celldrax"]

[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"][QUOTE="Panzer-schreck"]import_fighter1

:lol: Alright, I admit that it was a bad example but explain to me why you would have sex with an android over a REAL person?

I don't think it's a matter of preferring an android over a real person, but more like being open to the whole idea of it. & hey, I'm all for equality.

Exactly.

Either way, it's going to be one of those things only nerds do...

That sounds like the 80's when people were saying that about people that use computers..

Yeah, I'm sure all the popular kids are gonna be bragging about ****ing a robot... :roll:
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That scientist has completley missed the entire point of love, sexual human relationships and why people like fall in love with each other. Personally this guy couldn't be more wrong. People fall in love for so many differant reasons, and its deffinaitly not because they have the SAME personality but because they have differant personalities. Yes, people see the physical body attractive but its not just about that, and we should all no that.

Plus bangin' a robot is gross and you have to be a royal, first class, five star loser to do it.:P

P.S. - We haven't in fact got to the stage of Artificial Intelligance. A computer, or robot will never be able to think for itself, or like a human for that matter. Computers are designed to be told what to do by the user. The amount of memory, processing power and time to programme the smallest fo human reaction would take decades to do.

A.I. WILL NEVER EXIST!!!!!

_Kazi_
You're wrong. AI does excist, you're talking about Artificial Conceince, that DOESN'T excist, yet. However, AI DOES excist, they're different. And you REALLY don't know that, 60 years from now will be so different, for anyone to think they know what will be possible then, is well, arrogant.
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So what would we call people who have sex mainly with robots?SinkO
Robophiliacs?
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#122 Celldrax
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Yeah, I'm sure all the popular kids are gonna be bragging about ****ing a robot... :roll:Funkdaddy13

Hellz yes.....tell em you gave it a good run for it's money.....they'll be impressed.

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#123 wemhim
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Wow, I'm surprised at the amount of RoboPhobes in this topic. I'm sure this'll stop by 2199.
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[QUOTE="import_fighter1"][QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"][QUOTE="Panzer-schreck"][QUOTE="Celldrax"]

[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"][QUOTE="Panzer-schreck"]Funkdaddy13

:lol: Alright, I admit that it was a bad example but explain to me why you would have sex with an android over a REAL person?

I don't think it's a matter of preferring an android over a real person, but more like being open to the whole idea of it. & hey, I'm all for equality.

Exactly.

Either way, it's going to be one of those things only nerds do...

That sounds like the 80's when people were saying that about people that use computers..

Yeah, I'm sure all the popular kids are gonna be bragging about ****ing a robot... :roll:

Give it 25-30 years, like i said, people were saying the same thing about computers 30 years ago..

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#125 The_Ish
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Same thing. People have sex with blow up dolls and it's gross, regardless of how realistic they look because it's not a real person.Funkdaddy13

Technically, you are only pleasuring yourself.

So masturbation is gross all of a sudden?

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[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"] Same thing. People have sex with blow up dolls and it's gross, regardless of how realistic they look because it's not a real person.The_Ish

Technically, you are only pleasuring yourself.

So masturbation is gross all of a sudden?

:| Masturbation and having sex with a blow-up doll are two different things. When you masturbate you pleasure yourself. When you have sex with a blow up doll, you're pretending it's a real person to pleasure yourself.
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What the heck? :lol:
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#128 wemhim
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[QUOTE="The_Ish"]

[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"] Same thing. People have sex with blow up dolls and it's gross, regardless of how realistic they look because it's not a real person.Funkdaddy13

Technically, you are only pleasuring yourself.

So masturbation is gross all of a sudden?

:| Masturbation and having sex with a blow-up doll are two different things. When you masturbate you pleasure yourself. When you have sex with a blow up doll, you're pretending it's a real person to pleasure yourself.

Maybe certain people are attracted to robots. Do you descriminate people who find donuts attractive?
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#129 Panzer-schreck
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[QUOTE="The_Ish"]

[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"] Same thing. People have sex with blow up dolls and it's gross, regardless of how realistic they look because it's not a real person.Funkdaddy13

Technically, you are only pleasuring yourself.

So masturbation is gross all of a sudden?

:| Masturbation and having sex with a blow-up doll are two different things. When you masturbate you pleasure yourself. When you have sex with a blow up doll, you're pretending it's a real person to pleasure yourself.

we're talking about androids, not blow up dolls. There is a difference.

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So what would we call people who have sex mainly with robots?SinkO

Robophilliacs

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#131 Messer_Partei
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[QUOTE="Messer_Partei"]on a side note, sex robots are no different than masturbation with sex toys....Funkdaddy13
Not really. Masturbation is the pleasuring of one's self. It's a helluva lot different when you're pretending that toy is someone famous and you've designed it to look like them. Think about it; would you think someone masturbating with a vibrator is weirder than someone using a blow-up doll?

In masturbation you use pictures and thoughts and objects, what's the difference if you combine these 3 things?

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#132 wemhim
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Also, blow up dolls don't have personalities, if you've played Snatcher, I'm sure you would have felt a connection with the character Metal Gear and Random Hajile. If you haven't, you're not allowed to comment(Negatively) on the subject until you play it.
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[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]

[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"] Same thing. People have sex with blow up dolls and it's gross, regardless of how realistic they look because it's not a real person.Panzer-schreck

Technically, you are only pleasuring yourself.

So masturbation is gross all of a sudden?

:| Masturbation and having sex with a blow-up doll are two different things. When you masturbate you pleasure yourself. When you have sex with a blow up doll, you're pretending it's a real person to pleasure yourself.

we're talking about androids, not blow up dolls. There is a difference.

No there isn't. Both are non-living creations designed to look like humans. The only difference is intelligence. If you guys are desperate enough to have sex with androids, then go ahead, but that doesn't mean that me or the rest of society won't think it weird.
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#134 wemhim
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[QUOTE="Panzer-schreck"][QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]

[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"] Same thing. People have sex with blow up dolls and it's gross, regardless of how realistic they look because it's not a real person.Funkdaddy13

Technically, you are only pleasuring yourself.

So masturbation is gross all of a sudden?

:| Masturbation and having sex with a blow-up doll are two different things. When you masturbate you pleasure yourself. When you have sex with a blow up doll, you're pretending it's a real person to pleasure yourself.

we're talking about androids, not blow up dolls. There is a difference.

No there isn't. Both are non-living creations designed to look like humans. The only difference is intelligence. If you guys are desperate enough to have sex with androids, then go ahead, but that doesn't mean that me or the rest of society won't think it weird.

Yeah, just like I was desperate to have a friend when I cried at the end of Snatcher when they killed off Metal Gear Mk. II(Well, he was fixed, so I felt happy after). No, it has nothing to do with desperation, Robots can feel too.
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:| Masturbation and having sex with a blow-up doll are two different things. When you masturbate you pleasure yourself. When you have sex with a blow up doll, you're pretending it's a real person to pleasure yourself.Funkdaddy13

Wrong. You need to revise your sex ed if thats what you really think:

Masturbation refers to sexual stimulation, especially of one's own genitals and often to the point of orgasm, which is performed manually, by other types of bodily contact (except for sexual intercourse), by use of objects or tools, or by some combination of these methods.

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#136 Celldrax
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[QUOTE="The_Ish"]

[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"] Same thing. People have sex with blow up dolls and it's gross, regardless of how realistic they look because it's not a real person.Funkdaddy13

Technically, you are only pleasuring yourself.

So masturbation is gross all of a sudden?

:| Masturbation and having sex with a blow-up doll are two different things. When you masturbate you pleasure yourself. When you have sex with a blow up doll, you're pretending it's a real person to pleasure yourself.

People never masturbate without using their imagination......it dosen't matter how one decides to get off, because they're always still pretending.

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[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"] :| Masturbation and having sex with a blow-up doll are two different things. When you masturbate you pleasure yourself. When you have sex with a blow up doll, you're pretending it's a real person to pleasure yourself.The_Ish

Wrong. You need to revise your sex ed if thats what you really think:

Masturbation refers to sexual stimulation, especially of one's own genitals and often to the point of orgasm, which is performed manually, by other types of bodily contact (except for sexual intercourse), by use of objects or tools, or by some combination of these methods.

I doubt the writer of that definition was talking about sex with androids. :| And I'm pretty sure my sex-ed teacher never mentioned anything about ****ing robots...
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#138 Panzer-schreck
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But would you condier sex with an android to be masturbation?

To me it's clearly sexual intercourse...for the android would be actively participating.

A blow up doll would be masturbation though.

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#139 Funkdaddy13
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[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]

[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"] Same thing. People have sex with blow up dolls and it's gross, regardless of how realistic they look because it's not a real person.Celldrax

Technically, you are only pleasuring yourself.

So masturbation is gross all of a sudden?

:| Masturbation and having sex with a blow-up doll are two different things. When you masturbate you pleasure yourself. When you have sex with a blow up doll, you're pretending it's a real person to pleasure yourself.

People never masturbate without using their imagination......it dosen't matter how one decides to get off, because they're always still pretending.

Exactly. They use their imagination. Not a blow up doll or android or robot.
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#140 wemhim
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But would you condier sex with an android masturbation To me it's clearly sexual intercourse...for the android would be actively participating.

A blow up doll would be masturbation though.

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The only people against sex with Androinds/Robots are clearly RoboPhobes, they're almost as bad as homophobes, of course, it's just a fad that will go out next century, hopefully.
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#141 The_Ish
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I doubt the writer of that definition was talking about sex with androids. :| And I'm pretty sure my sex-ed teacher never mentioned anything about ****ing robots...Funkdaddy13

Doesn't matter. Robots are tools. And android is a robot. An android meant for sexual pleasure is a robot, which is also a tool.

Use some common sense. It's in the English.

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#142 Funkdaddy13
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But would you condier sex with an android masturbation To me it's clearly sexual intercourse...for the android would be actively participating.

A blow up doll would be masturbation though.

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The android only participates because you make it. If you were to go up to some girl and ask her to give you a bj, I seriously doubt she would go ahead and do it. Whatever, I don't feel like arguing with you guys on this topic anymore because it's something that don't really care about. Those who agree with this will probably remain virgins.
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#143 wemhim
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[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"] I doubt the writer of that definition was talking about sex with androids. :| And I'm pretty sure my sex-ed teacher never mentioned anything about ****ing robots...The_Ish

Doesn't matter. Robots are tools. And android is a robot. An android meant for sexual pleasure is a robot, which is also a tool.

Use some common sense. It's in the English.

No, an android has the capability to be a love partner, in other words, sex with them is an erotic and romantic act. Not just masturbation Robots can feel too.
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#144 The_Ish
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But would you condier sex with an android to be masturbation?

To me it's clearly sexual intercourse...for the android would be actively participating.

A blow up doll would be masturbation though.

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We are talking about tools, not sentient beings.

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#146 Celldrax
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Exactly. They use their imagination. Not a blow up doll or android or robot.Funkdaddy13

Actually, my point was that whether it be masturbation a blow up doll, android, or even another human partner, people still use their imagination in every one of these cases. So that does actually make them all similar in one way. I think the real argument just comes down do animate & inanimite, & whether you're for or against it.

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#147 The_Ish
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[QUOTE="The_Ish"]

[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"] I doubt the writer of that definition was talking about sex with androids. :| And I'm pretty sure my sex-ed teacher never mentioned anything about ****ing robots...wemhim

Doesn't matter. Robots are tools. And android is a robot. An android meant for sexual pleasure is a robot, which is also a tool.

Use some common sense. It's in the English.

No, an android has the capability to be a love partner, in other words, sex with them is an erotic and romantic act. Not just masturbation Robots can feel too.

No, they can't. Robots are tools. Robots with AI are people. We are not talking about the latter.

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#148 The_Ish
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That's a pretty dumb way of looking at things. Whatever, I'm done with this. Have fun with your robots/androids... :lol:Funkdaddy13

Right, leave the thread without actually rebuking my argument while calling it dumb. Nice.

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#149 wemhim
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[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]

[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"] I doubt the writer of that definition was talking about sex with androids. :| And I'm pretty sure my sex-ed teacher never mentioned anything about ****ing robots...The_Ish

Doesn't matter. Robots are tools. And android is a robot. An android meant for sexual pleasure is a robot, which is also a tool.

Use some common sense. It's in the English.

No, an android has the capability to be a love partner, in other words, sex with them is an erotic and romantic act. Not just masturbation Robots can feel too.

No, they can't. Robots are tools. Robots with AI are people. We are not talking about the latter.

Oh, I was talking about Robots with AI.... Oops.
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#150 Panzer-schreck
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[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]

[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"] I doubt the writer of that definition was talking about sex with androids. :| And I'm pretty sure my sex-ed teacher never mentioned anything about ****ing robots...The_Ish

Doesn't matter. Robots are tools. And android is a robot. An android meant for sexual pleasure is a robot, which is also a tool.

Use some common sense. It's in the English.

No, an android has the capability to be a love partner, in other words, sex with them is an erotic and romantic act. Not just masturbation Robots can feel too.

No, they can't. Robots are tools. Robots with AI are people. We are not talking about the latter.

I thought we were talking about androids, which are the latter.