You think this kind of relationship would ever work out??

It's not even that big of a deal Saje. It's like the norm now--lots of girls are dating guys 5+ years older then them(vice versa as well). It's not like he's abusing or raping her or something. And it won't last anyways--so I don't see the issue with it. Also, how is it not respecting yourself? Are you implying if she messed around with a guy her age, that would actually be anymore self-respecting or something? Most guys usually want the same thing once they pass 15 and I doubt it would be any different with a guy her own age other then the number.

People are acting appalled and digusted right now like this stuff doesn't happen often.

TecmoGirl

[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="dog64"]

Wait you're 20 right? That means you graduated at 17?

dog64

So did I :) I was homeschooled and skipped over 7th grade. But in LostProphetFLCL's case, the 17 year old still has two years of high school. Shouldn't she be in 12th grade?

[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="dog64"]

Wait you're 20 right? That means you graduated at 17?

dog64

So did I :) I was homeschooled and skipped over 7th grade. But in LostProphetFLCL's case, the 17 year old still has two years of high school. Shouldn't she be in 12th grade?

Yeah she should, but she was held back for whatever reason (fairly certain she didn't fail out since she IS taking honors classes) so shes only a junior now instead.

And yes, I did graduate at 17 because I am a badass like that:P

[QUOTE="TecmoGirl"]

[QUOTE="Sajedene"] OMG no just no no no. No self respecting girl would enter into a relationship like this. Maybe after college when the maturity/income/lifestyle/etc levels balance out more... but not this. No self respecting guy should either. No parent should be okay with this relationship at this age. No friend of the parties involved should be okay with this.Sajedene

It's not even that big of a deal Saje. It's like the norm now--lots of girls are dating guys 5+ years older then them(vice versa as well). It's not like he's abusing or raping her or something. And it won't last anyways--so I don't see the issue with it. Also, how is it not respecting yourself? Are you implying if she messed around with a guy her age, that would actually be anymore self-respecting or something? Most guys usually want the same thing once they pass 15 and I doubt it would be any different with a guy her own age other then the number.

People are acting appalled and digusted right now like this stuff doesn't happen often.

Heroine intends to do harm to somebodys body and mind--of course that's not alright. But a relationship between people who differ in age doesn't make harm inevitable. And since when was a 15 year old not old enough to drive on their on? We are eligible to get our licenses here in some parts of Michigan at the age of 14 and a few months. Many of us have been driving for a while now and we aren't even 18 yet. The lifestyles and financial income are simply what you assume to be his at that age--that's not automatically the case. Why wouldn't their lifestyles be comparable? It's entirely possible. Not ever 15 year old lives with their parents obviously and many of them are on different levels of maturity(some even more mature then 21 year old who's possibly still living home with his parents). Just because he's more capable doesn't mean he takes full advantage of that. Some guys that age are just big ass kids--with the mentality of a teenager. I think you're underestimating just how mature a 15 year old can be.

You're forgetting the fact that it's illegal.

No, i'm aware that is illegal. So are many other things in life but people love to take risk. I just don't see the issue here if he's a great guy.

No, i'm aware that is illegal. So are many other things in life but people love to take risk. I just don't see the issue here if he's a great guy.

TecmoGirl

[QUOTE="dog64"]

[QUOTE="Sajedene"] It happens. I graduated high school at 16 :)LostProphetFLCL

So did I :) I was homeschooled and skipped over 7th grade. But in LostProphetFLCL's case, the 17 year old still has two years of high school. Shouldn't she be in 12th grade?

Yeah she should, but she was held back for whatever reason (fairly certain she didn't fail out since she IS taking honors classes) so shes only a junior now instead.

And yes, I did graduate at 17 because I am a badass like that:P

Or was it because your birthday was just a little after you graduated? :P

Well since she was held back a year, and you graduated a little early, I wouldn't be as concerned about the difference. Three years isn't much anyway, so if you really like her, I'd go for it. Heh, look at me, giving girl advice when I haven't even had a girlfriend yet :P

U really dont get it do you :question:I guess its safe to say you didnt have a father figure or big brother growing up. :roll: I feel sorry for you.Caramel_Fantasy

**** you. And I understood everything that was being said--thank you very much.

The issue is that it is against the law, and disgusting.

A 10+ year difference or if she was under 14 would be considered disgusting to me. I just don't see the major digust here with a 15 and 21 year old.

[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="TecmoGirl"]

It's not even that big of a deal Saje. It's like the norm now--lots of girls are dating guys 5+ years older then them(vice versa as well). It's not like he's abusing or raping her or something. And it won't last anyways--so I don't see the issue with it. Also, how is it not respecting yourself? Are you implying if she messed around with a guy her age, that would actually be anymore self-respecting or something? Most guys usually want the same thing once they pass 15 and I doubt it would be any different with a guy her own age other then the number.

People are acting appalled and digusted right now like this stuff doesn't happen often.

TecmoGirl

Heroine intends to do harm to somebodys body and mind--of course that's not alright. But a relationship between people who differ in age doesn't make harm inevitable. And since when was a 15 year old not old enough to drive on their on? We are eligible to get our licenses here in some parts of Michigan at the age of 14 and a few months. Many of us have been driving for a while now and we aren't even 18 yet. The lifestyles and financial income are simply what you assume to be his at that age--that's not automatically the case. Why wouldn't their lifestyles be comparable? It's entirely possible. Not ever 15 year old lives with their parents obviously and many of them are on different levels of maturity(some even more mature then 21 year old who's possibly still living home with his parents). Just because he's more capable doesn't mean he takes full advantage of that. Some guys that age are just big ass kids--with the mentality of a teenager. I think you're underestimating just how mature a 15 year old can be.

[QUOTE="Caramel_Fantasy"]U really dont get it do you :question:I guess its safe to say you didnt have a father figure or big brother growing up. :roll: I feel sorry for you.TecmoGirl

**** you. And I understood everything that was being said--thank you very much.

Although I do not agree with TecmoGirl's position, Carmel Fantasy...you need to leave family out of it...that is a low blow IMO...you can disagree without attacking.

A 10+ year difference or if she was under 14 would be considered disgusting to me. I just don't see the major digust here with a 15 and 21 year old.

TecmoGirl

[QUOTE="TecmoGirl"]A 10+ year difference or if she was under 14 would be considered disgusting to me. I just don't see the major digust here with a 15 and 21 year old.

harashawn

Some people in this thread honestly can not be serious....:|

[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

[QUOTE="dog64"]

So did I :) I was homeschooled and skipped over 7th grade. But in LostProphetFLCL's case, the 17 year old still has two years of high school. Shouldn't she be in 12th grade?

dog64

Yeah she should, but she was held back for whatever reason (fairly certain she didn't fail out since she IS taking honors classes) so shes only a junior now instead.

And yes, I did graduate at 17 because I am a badass like that:P

Or was it because your birthday was just a little after you graduated? :P

Well since she was held back a year, and you graduated a little early, I wouldn't be as concerned about the difference. Three years isn't much anyway, so if you really like her, I'd go for it. Heh, look at me, giving girl advice when I haven't even had a girlfriend yet :P

Well theres alot more to it that just the age thing, but you got to understand that age thing is still a big issue.

I mean seriously, the thought that if we were to date she would be going to prom NEXT year when I would likely be almost done with college is just....ick.

This is probably a bigger deal than it would be for most guys considering my dad was accused twice and convicted on the second time of having sexual charges against a minor and that really makes me feel even more of a creep at the thought of dating a girl like that.

Besides, I have a very high maturity level (even if I don't always show it) and would do ALOT better with a girl closer to my age who is more mature. The girl who I turned down can act very kiddish at times and she even aknowleges it herself.

[QUOTE="dog64"]

[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

Yeah she should, but she was held back for whatever reason (fairly certain she didn't fail out since she IS taking honors classes) so shes only a junior now instead.

And yes, I did graduate at 17 because I am a badass like that:P

LostProphetFLCL

Or was it because your birthday was just a little after you graduated? :P

Well since she was held back a year, and you graduated a little early, I wouldn't be as concerned about the difference. Three years isn't much anyway, so if you really like her, I'd go for it. Heh, look at me, giving girl advice when I haven't even had a girlfriend yet :P

Well theres alot more to it that just the age thing, but you got to understand that age thing is still a big issue.

I mean seriously, the thought that if we were to date she would be going to prom NEXT year when I would likely be almost done with college is just....ick.

This is probably a bigger deal than it would be for most guys considering my dad was accused twice and convicted on the second time of having sexual charges against a minor and that really makes me feel even more of a creep at the thought of dating a girl like that.

Besides, I have a very high maturity level (even if I don't always show it) and would do ALOT better with a girl closer to my age who is more mature. The girl who I turned down can act very kiddish at times and she even aknowleges it herself.

Age is an issue, but it doesn't have to be a big issue until there's a large age gap. I personally don't see a problem with a three year, or even four year, age difference. Any more than that and it can be a problem, depending on the ages of the individual. Everything does have to be taken into consideration though, and as you continue to get older there will be a time when age won't matter at all (as long as its legal, which if it is legal, then age shouldn't matter no matter what the ages between the two are).

Maturity level really shouldn't matter imo. Everybody grows at different rates, mentally and physically, and some just may have different personalities that make them act less "mature". Some 30 year olds still act like they're 12, and I very well may be one of them. But I don't see that as a turn off, unless you prefer people who act grown-up and mature. If you do, then maybe she's just not the one for you, for a romantic relationship that is. Of course, there's still plenty of time to find that special someone. Heck, I'm not even looking, and I'm 20 as well.

Actually, yes. :| Younger chicks love older dudes, this type of thing is very common.avatar_genius

[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

[QUOTE="dog64"]

Or was it because your birthday was just a little after you graduated? :P

Well since she was held back a year, and you graduated a little early, I wouldn't be as concerned about the difference. Three years isn't much anyway, so if you really like her, I'd go for it. Heh, look at me, giving girl advice when I haven't even had a girlfriend yet :P

dog64

Well theres alot more to it that just the age thing, but you got to understand that age thing is still a big issue.

I mean seriously, the thought that if we were to date she would be going to prom NEXT year when I would likely be almost done with college is just....ick.

This is probably a bigger deal than it would be for most guys considering my dad was accused twice and convicted on the second time of having sexual charges against a minor and that really makes me feel even more of a creep at the thought of dating a girl like that.

Besides, I have a very high maturity level (even if I don't always show it) and would do ALOT better with a girl closer to my age who is more mature. The girl who I turned down can act very kiddish at times and she even aknowleges it herself.

Age is an issue, but it doesn't have to be a big issue until there's a large age gap. I personally don't see a problem with a three year, or even four year, age difference. Any more than that and it can be a problem, depending on the ages of the individual. Everything does have to be taken into consideration though, and as you continue to get older there will be a time when age won't matter at all (as long as its legal, which if it is legal, then age shouldn't matter no matter what the ages between the two are).

Maturity level really shouldn't matter imo. Everybody grows at different rates, mentally and physically, and some just may have different personalities that make them act less "mature". Some 30 year olds still act like they're 12, and I very well may be one of them. But I don't see that as a turn off, unless you prefer people who act grown-up and mature. If you do, then maybe she's just not the one for you, for a romantic relationship that is. Of course, there's still plenty of time to find that special someone. Heck, I'm not even looking, and I'm 20 as well.

Trust me theres more to it than just the age, I just see it as a MAIN reason in this case. IDK, I just follow my gut and in this case I just didn't feel it. Of course ATM I am left with no one to chase after which SUCKS, but I would rather just stay single than play with her emotions and go into something I really didn't think felt right.

Gives me time to keep losing weight so I can look smexy I guess:P

first the age difference at this point is too much. Second a guy in college should not be poaching high school girls unless the relationship started when they were both still in high school.

Yes, such relationships can work, but it will usually take for the girl a while to adjust to they guy's mental age.

And it's usually better if the guy is older.

there has to be something mentally wrong with the guy... no jk. Guys that go out with little girls are not right in the head :(

Girls seem to do this a lot. They want "mature" older guys, but I have to question the maturity and motives of a 21 year old dating a 15 year old.

sajedine your arguement skills are very good, i agree with you here 100% . a 21 year old guy should have nothing to do with a 15 year old girl. my cousin is 15 and i'm 19, and when it comes to her friends and her, i feel like mentallity / intellectually were MILES apart, interests wise.. everything.. now this guy is 2 years older and he wants to do "stuff" .. yeah..

brutalizer, call her parents or , if u wanna be BAMF.. pretend your cool with the situation, and ask her if he'd like to hang out with both of you. then when you see him, tell him " if i ever see you around her again, i'll call the cops" make sure you look him strait in the eyes serious style while doing this.

Well, today one of my female friends told me she found a boyfriend, and when I asked who, she said "Well, he's 21 years old and goes to the community college."

I tried not to laugh. My friend is 15 years old. Yet shes still texting me, mad as hell for practically laughing in her face. Sorry. I needed a good laugh.

Im curious what you guys think....you guys think a sophomore and a college dude would work out for a real relationship?

If any of my friends were dating a 15 year old girl, I wouldn't stop mocking them. That's just sad and pathetic.

sajedine your arguement skills are very good, i agree with you here 100% . a 21 year old guy should have nothing to do with a 15 year old girl. my cousin is 15 and i'm 19, and when it comes to her friends and her, i feel like mentallity / intellectually were MILES apart, interests wise.. everything.. now this guy is 2 years older and he wants to do "stuff" .. yeah..

brutalizer, call her parents or , if u wanna be BAMF.. pretend your cool with the situation, and ask her if he'd like to hang out with both of you. then when you see him, tell him " if i ever see you around her again, i'll call the cops" make sure you look him strait in the eyes serious style while doing this.

nimatoad2000

[QUOTE="avatar_genius"]Why don't you ask your friend what she sees in the guy?THE_BRUTALIZER

Have you even met the guy?

Nope not going to last.

[QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"][QUOTE="avatar_genius"]Why don't you ask your friend what she sees in the guy?avatar_genius

Have you even met the guy?

Anything can happen, so it can actually work out. But I doubt the maturity gap between both will allow that.

[QUOTE="avatar_genius"]

[QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"] yeah, rawsavon is starting to make me think I should question a little further..... I might talk with her tomorrow before class. I cant let her get harmed like that.....i would kill myself, shes like my little sister basically haha.....Sajedene

Have you even met the guy?

It's not this is inherently "bad."

[QUOTE="Sajedene"]

[QUOTE="avatar_genius"]
Who says she is being harmed?

Have you even met the guy?

avatar_genius

It's not this is inherently "bad."

When you ask yourself - going into a relationship - what the potential issues one can face in that said relationship - marriage and raising a family would be involved. If, god forbid, anything physical is happening between them... which one of them is ready to have kids? And now say, we add another 5 years to that ... when the 21 year old is already graduated and working and more than ready to start a family. This girl will be 20 and barely in college. Should they go ahead and get married then? Or should she focus on her school and future career?

Or is this just a mindless fling. That has plenty of negativeness attached to it as well because a mindless fling for a 15 year old with a 21 year old... well when is that ever okay?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Any college guy that would date a 15 year old little kid is a total loser and pedophile. If I were you, I would strongly consider reporting this. Sick. just sickrawsavon

[QUOTE="avatar_genius"]

[QUOTE="Sajedene"] The potential harm involved with this "relationship" is not just limited to anything physical. It could also cause emotional and social ramifications. And could affect future relationships as well.

Sajedene

It's not this is inherently "bad."

When you ask yourself - going into a relationship - what the potential issues one can face in that said relationship - marriage and raising a family would be involved. If, god forbid, anything physical is happening between them... which one of them is ready to have kids? And now say, we add another 5 years to that ... when the 21 year old is already graduated and working and more than ready to start a family. This girl will be 20 and barely in college. Should they go ahead and get married then? Or should she focus on her school and future career?

Or is this just a mindless fling. That has plenty of negativeness attached to it as well because a mindless fling for a 15 year old with a 21 year old... well when is that ever okay?

I have a question. Have you been tested for personality? Are you ESFJ? I'm getting that vibe.

Anyway, my analysis is you get so much information from law and order, but there are always exceptions and law and order is not a good generalization to paint over everything. Sometimes, it's good to weigh things by, but too many people get sucked into it and live in its world back-and-call type thing.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Any college guy that would date a 15 year old little kid is a total loser and pedophile. If I were you, I would strongly consider reporting this. Sick. just sickTeenaged