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#1 Bandit_Haze
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i've picked 3 articles, but there are loads you can read through,. none of these are anybodies opinion, they all based on facts HOWEVER, its upto YOU to verify those facts

some of the articles are quite long, but you're just gonna have to accept that if you want proof, you're just gonna have to do some reading, and thinking.. btw, it don't matter too much which order you read em in

article 1

article 2

article 3

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#2 Shade-Blade
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I dont need proof because Im not going to believe a lie.
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#3 dealjobber
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lol, numerology.

You can prove God exists with the phone book using that example.

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#4 Hinata237
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Do you really think that I'm going to read all that?
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#5 Sireph
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You can't prove God to anyone who isnt open to it. For people who are open to it, its important to find a way to identify God in your life in a way that makes sense to you because there's a lot of people faking out there.
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#6 Oleg_Huzwog
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Duck season! Wabt season! Duck season! Wabt season!
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#7 ALTER_duo
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hmmm.... pathetic? yea id say so. :roll:
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#8 Zagrius
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I'm sorry, but unless you teach me Arabic and give me a valid copy of the Quran, I can't verify those claims.
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#9 ChicaQueenWarGa
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You can't prove God's existance. Have you died and met God and asked for a picture? Nope. So you can't prove anything. And the religious books...Can you actually tell if actual people wrote that or if it was some bored guy at home?
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#10 Bandit_Haze
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theres more than one way to do it, thats up to you find those,..

but if you're not willing to read through it, then you lose the right to say "you can't prove god" until you can disprove my resentation, you lose that right, and the fact is, u cant disprove it, until you know what you're trying to disprove, i.e. you gotta read through it

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#11 cold_skull
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please....for every thing that is good in this world NEVER make a religious thread.
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#12 JTWibble
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Thanks for posting those three articles, now I see where I have been going wrong, it's all become suddenly clear.
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#13 Shade-Blade
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theres more than one way to do it, thats up to you find those,..

but if you're not willing to read through it, then you lose the right to say "you can't prove god" until you can disprove my resentation, you lose that right, and the fact is, u cant disprove it, until you know what you're trying to disprove, i.e. you gotta read through it

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And you cant prove it now shush
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#14 gamerchris810
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hmmm.... pathetic? yea id say so. :roll:ALTER_duo

I think i agree with this guy. ^

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#15 Bandit_Haze
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you know its funny how in every religious thread that comes up, you guys love to go on about how you can't prove god... and now once you get presented with something, you refuse to read through it..

..you wanna call me pathetic, fine go ahead, but at least i know i aint ignorant

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#17 metallica_fan42
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There is no God, because he let Stevie Ray Vaughan die. If there was a God, he wouldn't have killed such a talented guitarist so young. I know there are many people that have been killed way to young, but this is who I chose for this example:P
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#18 JTWibble
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It's just a boring subject and a lot of reading to prove something that will have no effect on your life.
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#19 CptJSparrow
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God is real because the number 19 recurs in the Quaran? Go watch a movie called The Number 23.
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#20 194197844077667059316682358889
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Why does faith require proof?
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you know its funny how in every religious thread that comes up, you guys love to go on about how you can't prove god... and now once you get presented with something, you refuse to read through it..

..you wanna call me pathetic, fine go ahead, but at least i know i aint ignorant

Bandit_Haze

i read it ,im an atheist, still am so now what? im not callin u pathetic really just the fact that this is a pathetic attempt at something that cant be done.

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#22 Goose
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Trying to prove God's existence has always seemed to me to miss the point. If God's existence could be proven, believing in Him would be meaningless. Faith and logic aren't compatible. That's not to say that believing in God is wrong or right. It's just not something that is well-suited to scientific proof.

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#23 ALTER_duo
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Why does faith require proof?xaos

it doesnt. i dont care that u believe in god do wat u want im here to defend atheism not attack christians

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#24 ALTER_duo
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Wait, did you read those articles yourself? Theydon't purport to prove God's existence. They're about the significance of the number 19 in scripture.

Regardless, trying to prove God's existence has always seemed to me to miss the point. If God's existence could be proven, believing in Him would be meaningless. Faith and logic aren't compatible. That's not to say that believing in God is wrong or right. It's just not something that is well-suited to scientific proof.

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hes right

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#25 Oleg_Huzwog
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Aw, you removed the wabt. Anyhoo: if it were possible to "prove" the existence of the divine, wouldn't it have been done in a more visible format? Y'know, front page headlines instead of some obscure website?

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#26 EboyLOL
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Doesn't prove that God exists...
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#27 agilefalcon16
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you know its funny how in every religious thread that comes up, you guys love to go on about how you can't prove god... and now once you get presented with something, you refuse to read through it..

..you wanna call me pathetic, fine go ahead, but at least i know i aint ignorant

Bandit_Haze

Here's an idea, why not summarize those (probably biased) articles so we won't have to waste our time reading them? Or, why not point out specific parts for us to read that "prove the existence of God", so we can get right to the point?

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#28 Goose
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[QUOTE="Bandit_Haze"]

you know its funny how in every religious thread that comes up, you guys love to go on about how you can't prove god... and now once you get presented with something, you refuse to read through it..

..you wanna call me pathetic, fine go ahead, but at least i know i aint ignorant

agilefalcon16

Here's an idea, why not summarize those (probably biased) articles so we won't have to waste our time reading them? Or, why not point out specific parts for us to read that "prove the existence of God", so we can get right to the point?

Summary: The number 19 appears too often in one English translation of the Q'uran for it to have been written by anyone but God.
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WHAHA this guy burned himself...

Teh bible states that God does not show evidence or "proof" of his existence.. And seeing as god is all powerfull that would mean that there should be no proof.. So if there is proof that means that god does not exist.. because god does not show proof. :P

(i believe btw)

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[QUOTE="Bandit_Haze"]

you know its funny how in every religious thread that comes up, you guys love to go on about how you can't prove god... and now once you get presented with something, you refuse to read through it..

..you wanna call me pathetic, fine go ahead, but at least i know i aint ignorant

agilefalcon16

Here's an idea, why not summarize those (probably biased) articles so we won't have to waste our time reading them? Or, why not point out specific parts for us to read that "prove the existence of God", so we can get right to the point?

it doesnt matter those articles prove nothing. whether he summarizes them or not hell still be at the bottom of the pool because he didnt read it himself. pure stupidity man thats all it is and now im gonna call him pathetic

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Ahh yes, I ate that crap up when I was younger.

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#32 Goose
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[QUOTE="agilefalcon16"][QUOTE="Bandit_Haze"]

you know its funny how in every religious thread that comes up, you guys love to go on about how you can't prove god... and now once you get presented with something, you refuse to read through it..

..you wanna call me pathetic, fine go ahead, but at least i know i aint ignorant

ALTER_duo

Here's an idea, why not summarize those (probably biased) articles so we won't have to waste our time reading them? Or, why not point out specific parts for us to read that "prove the existence of God", so we can get right to the point?

it doesnt matter those articles prove nothing. whether he summarizes them or not hell still be at the bottom of the pool because he didnt read it himself. pure stupidity man thats all it is and now im gonna call him pathetic

No, I made a mistake above, which I corrected. I must be sleepy--I skipped a paragraph early on where the key argument was made, and got bogged down in the endless list of ways in which the number 19 appears. :oops:
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#33 The_Ish
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WHAHA this guy burned himself...

Teh bible states that God does not show evidence or "proof" of his existence.. And seeing as god is all powerfull that would mean that there should be no proof.. So if there is proof that means that god does not exist.. because god does not show proof. :P

(i believe btw)

The_Tombo

He is citing sources from the Qu'ran.

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#34 MoldOnHold
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Thanks for that.

Interesting article; I did not know that before.
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#35 agilefalcon16
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[QUOTE="agilefalcon16"][QUOTE="Bandit_Haze"]

you know its funny how in every religious thread that comes up, you guys love to go on about how you can't prove god... and now once you get presented with something, you refuse to read through it..

..you wanna call me pathetic, fine go ahead, but at least i know i aint ignorant

Goose

Here's an idea, why not summarize those (probably biased) articles so we won't have to waste our time reading them? Or, why not point out specific parts for us to read that "prove the existence of God", so we can get right to the point?

Summary: The number 19 appears too often in one English translation of the Q'uran for it to have been written by anyone but God.

LOL! :lol: I see. Thanks for the summary.

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#36 Kcube
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I can prove God is real..How?

^ I just posted thats how

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#37 salty5674
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no way im reading that, can you just summarize it for me
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#38 Kcube
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no way im reading that, can you just summarize it for mesalty5674

The number 19 is proof that god is real

I say the number 1 is evil considering it is always first at everything:evil:

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#39 Half-Life_man
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With the whole "Is the Bible fake business" I doubt that some Joe during the Pax Romana would research thousands of years of history and have all Jewish wars, History of Rome, and the world during the time of Abraham and all thatr just to make up a fake story.

Proud believer of God.

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[QUOTE="The_Tombo"]

WHAHA this guy burned himself...

Teh bible states that God does not show evidence or "proof" of his existence.. And seeing as god is all powerfull that would mean that there should be no proof.. So if there is proof that means that god does not exist.. because god does not show proof. :P

(i believe btw)

The_Ish

He is citing sources from the Qu'ran.

no matter.. bible is truth.. in the eyes of the faithfull

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#41 Kcube
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You know what I dont get with you people,the fact you always try to prove crap and argue over it.
Can anyone of you prove he is real? N O can anyone prove that a higher being then our own is real? N O

I have an idea but it requires breaking your keyboards

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#42 Bandit_Haze
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[QUOTE="agilefalcon16"][QUOTE="Bandit_Haze"]

you know its funny how in every religious thread that comes up, you guys love to go on about how you can't prove god... and now once you get presented with something, you refuse to read through it..

..you wanna call me pathetic, fine go ahead, but at least i know i aint ignorant

ALTER_duo

Here's an idea, why not summarize those (probably biased) articles so we won't have to waste our time reading them? Or, why not point out specific parts for us to read that "prove the existence of God", so we can get right to the point?

it doesnt matter those articles prove nothing. whether he summarizes them or not hell still be at the bottom of the pool because he didnt read it himself. pure stupidity man thats all it is and now im gonna call him pathetic

you assumed that i haven't read those, you're wrong, not only have i read throug those, i have read through many others, and have verified them for myself

i don't rely on other people to summerize because summaries means missing things out, and when talkin about something as important as if god exists or or not, its best not to leave anything out..

but anyway, like i said before, its up to you to verify it for yourself, if you really wanna know... aparently it seems you don't ,, well thats your business.. but bear in mind, anytime someone brings up a religious thread and you decide to say god can't be proven,... just remember since you didn't bother to verify all info that came to you, its no longer a valid claim you can make

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#43 The_Ish
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[QUOTE="The_Ish"][QUOTE="The_Tombo"]

WHAHA this guy burned himself...

Teh bible states that God does not show evidence or "proof" of his existence.. And seeing as god is all powerfull that would mean that there should be no proof.. So if there is proof that means that god does not exist.. because god does not show proof. :P

(i believe btw)

The_Tombo

He is citing sources from the Qu'ran.

no matter.. bible is truth.. in the eyes of the faithfull

don't let the TC hear that, it goes against his faith. :lol:

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[QUOTE="The_Ish"][QUOTE="The_Tombo"]

WHAHA this guy burned himself...

Teh bible states that God does not show evidence or "proof" of his existence.. And seeing as god is all powerfull that would mean that there should be no proof.. So if there is proof that means that god does not exist.. because god does not show proof. :P

(i believe btw)

The_Tombo

He is citing sources from the Qu'ran.

no matter.. bible is truth.. in the eyes of the faithfull

And the Qur'an is?
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please....for every thing that is good in this world NEVER make a religious thread.cold_skull
Thanks you. I am sick of these threads. If you want to know if there is a god or not just die.
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#46 The_Ish
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[QUOTE="The_Tombo"][QUOTE="The_Ish"][QUOTE="The_Tombo"]

WHAHA this guy burned himself...

Teh bible states that God does not show evidence or "proof" of his existence.. And seeing as god is all powerfull that would mean that there should be no proof.. So if there is proof that means that god does not exist.. because god does not show proof. :P

(i believe btw)

MoldOnHold

He is citing sources from the Qu'ran.

no matter.. bible is truth.. in the eyes of the faithfull

And the Qur'an is?

false, according to the bible

this is one of the problems between these religions

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I'm not even going to bother...I have my reasons for not believing in god.
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#48 Zagrius
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TC, I'm sorry, but as I said, I don't know Arabic and don't have a verified legitimate version of the Quran at hand to verify the claims made in the site. If I told you now that in the original Hebrew version of the OT if you take the first letter of each chapter you will get a message that loosely translated to English says "Bandit Haze, the milk in the fridge is bad, better throw it out." Would you just take me at my word since (assuming you don't know Hebrew) you can't verify it for yourself? If so, then perhaps you should get rid of the milk.
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#49 Decessus
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i've picked 3 articles, but there are loads you can read through,. none of these are anybodies opinion, they all based on facts HOWEVER, its upto YOU to verify those facts

some of the articles are quite long, but you're just gonna have to accept that if you want proof, you're just gonna have to do some reading, and thinking.. btw, it don't matter too much which order you read em in

article 1

Bandit_Haze

How does a recurring theme of the number 19 prove that God exists?

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#50 Decessus
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[QUOTE="cold_skull"]please....for every thing that is good in this world NEVER make a religious thread.jjj13
Thanks you. I am sick of these threads. If you want to know if there is a god or not just die.

If you're so sick of these threads, then don't post in them. If you don't have anything useful to contribute, then go to one of the other 2000+ threads that are available on the Gamespot forums.