Your opinion on Global Warming? Is it a real threat or just a hoax?

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#1 SoraX64
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My science honors class is doing a project where we have to study articles on global warming and write a review and an opinion on it.

I'm not entirely sure of my opinion of it, but I think that global warming is a problem, but it won't be as noticeable for a long time.

Of course, my opinion is that of an uneducated 14 year old, and I'm sure everyone of OT has a different opinion, and thats why I made this topic.

What is YOUR opinion on global warming? Is it a threat to our generation, the next generation, is it even a threat? Is it real, or some hoax made up to make us keep the air clean and all of that?

Just don't shoot people for their opinions :P

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#2 Theokhoth
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Of course global warming is real. Are we causing it? I doubt that. Either way, we still need to get off fossil fuels and improve the environment; if it cools the planet down in the process then that'll be an added bonus.

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#3 ghoklebutter
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I'm 14 as well. :P

I think it is in the same league as the current recession in the economy--dangerous, but only temporary.

But I still think we should stop polluting the earth and being filthy slobs.

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"The suggestion that humans are responsible for at least a significant component of climate change comes from several lines of evidence. Theoretical considerations suggest that discharging carbon dioxide and methane into the atmosphere will cause atmospheric warming, as can be directly observed above all cities in the developed world where energy use involves burning fossil fuels. Measurements of carbon dioxide and methane preseved in ice cores from Antarctica and Kallaallit Nunaat (Greenland) indicate that the concentrations have been relatively stable over the past 10000 years. However, since 1800, the concentration of carbon dioxide in the ice and the atmosphere has increased by about 30% and the concentration of methane has doubled.

Proxy data, historical records, and numerical temperature and precipitation observations allow comparison between what has happened under the purely natural circumstances that undoubtedly existed prior to 1800 AD, and what has happened since then. The most striking difference is not in the type of climate changes, or the areas of occurrence, or the consequences to organisms: it is the speed at which the changes are occuring. Changes that required hundreds , thousands, or tens of thousands of years in the natural and geological records are now seen within the span of decades. The rates of climate change are increasing, along with increased human production of carbon dioxide and methane. The acceleration of the rate of change began in the early 1800s, just as human consumption of fossil fuels increased. Ongoing climate changes directly above cities are proportional to the amount of energy consumed by each, with differences evident due to city size, lifestyle, and economic wealth. Taken all together, the acceleration of climate change cannot be explained solely by natural causes: human activity is the only factor that has changed substantially in Earth's climate system since 1800."

- Geography 1050: Introduction to the Principles & Practice of Geography. Memorial University of Newfoundland Department of Geography. 2008-2009 version.

(My geography textbook from last semester)

I doubt it's a hoax.

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#5 fatjack04
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I think either its quite real and we don't care...or it is just, in fact, a cycle of our climate and we will eventually cool down...and then heat up.....and then cool down.....
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I think either its quite real and we don't care...or it is just, in fact, a cycle of our climate and we will eventually cool down...and then heat up.....and then cool down.....fatjack04
See the geography textbook excerpt I just quoted; it explains the difference between the influence of natural cycles on their own and the influence of human activity on top of that.
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I think it's real and I think that's it's like a "natural process," and I think that President Elect Obama's RPS plan will great reduce our dependency on Foreign Oil. A Cap N Trade wouldn't be bad either.
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#8 Hungry_bunny
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It's real. The threat has been exaggerated but I DO believe that people have suffered because of it.
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#9 deactivated-605ba7fd6332a
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Global Warming is definitely real, I do not think there is much of a debate over that in the scientific community. There has been a general trend towards increasing temperatures here on earth for awhile now (can't remember the details, I think it's cyclic). The question is whether or not humans are causing its rapid acceleration due to our activities. By activities I mean the release of CFCs which deplete the ozone, and heat trapping molecules such as Methane and Carbon Dioxide.
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#10 btaylor2404
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Global warming is real, and I think humans are mostly to blame. How bad will it be is anyone's guess. It will be a threat at some point in time if we don't do anything.
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#11 Logan1616
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It's real. The threat has been exaggerated but I DO believe that people have suffered because of it.Hungry_bunny
Oh yes, just look at all the Southeastern Asian countries that flood every year, that's global warming right there.
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[QUOTE="fatjack04"]I think either its quite real and we don't care...or it is just, in fact, a cycle of our climate and we will eventually cool down...and then heat up.....and then cool down.....matthayter700
See the geography textbook excerpt I just quoted; it explains the difference between the influence of natural cycles on their own and the influence of human activity on top of that.

hmm, interesting. Good thing I don't live in a metropolitan area.
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#13 entropyecho
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Global warming is a hoax designed and propagated by hippies to reduce the number of Hummers and SUVs.
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#14 DBScott11
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it's real and its not the humans causing it its the sun
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[QUOTE="matthayter700"][QUOTE="fatjack04"]I think either its quite real and we don't care...or it is just, in fact, a cycle of our climate and we will eventually cool down...and then heat up.....and then cool down.....fatjack04
See the geography textbook excerpt I just quoted; it explains the difference between the influence of natural cycles on their own and the influence of human activity on top of that.

hmm, interesting. Good thing I don't live in a metropolitan area.

What do you mean?
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i think its real and if its not then al gore has no life
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#17 matthayter700
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it's real and its not the humans causing it its the sun DBScott11
So what do you have to say about the geography textbook excerpt I just quoted?
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Global warming is a hoax designed and propagated by hippies to reduce the number of Hummers and SUVs.entropyecho
If this project wasn't go big, I would put that in. :lol: "As stated by the user entropyecho of Gamespot, global warming is a hoax designed and propagated by hippies to reduce the number of Hummers and SUVs." A+ for sure :lol: I really hate projects :(
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#19 RadBooley
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We broke the Earth.

Take from that what you will.

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#20 senses_blank
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i actully have a research paper due tommorow on global warming. I think that it is a problem but not as severe as some hypothesize
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#21 trix5817
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The Earth has warmed, but humans aren't to blame. It's also not even close to being a gigantic crisis like all the alarmists want you to believe. This Global Warming "Crisis" fiasco will soon pass just like the Global Cooling fiasco of the 70's did.
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I don't know enough about it to give an opinion.
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[QUOTE="DBScott11"]it's real and its not the humans causing it its the sun matthayter700
So what do you have to say about the geography textbook excerpt I just quoted?

So a high school geography textbook=100% correct?

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#24 fatjack04
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[QUOTE="fatjack04"][QUOTE="matthayter700"] See the geography textbook excerpt I just quoted; it explains the difference between the influence of natural cycles on their own and the influence of human activity on top of that.matthayter700
hmm, interesting. Good thing I don't live in a metropolitan area.

What do you mean?

It was just a comment based on the excerpt you used for example, which was interesting and does bring up good points. But, I suppose that if areas that use more energy are the main cause and more susceptible to damage from the global warming...I wouldn't want to live there.
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#25 deactivated-5a79221380856
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Global warming is real, but I doubt humans have had much input into its actual effect.
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#26 deactivated-59d151f079814
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It is real.. Are we causing it? Probably to some extent.. Either way the solutions are intelligent not just enviromentally but economically.. But lets face it we don't know, there is just too much misinformation that most don't know who to believe.. Afterall Global warming is combating one of the largest companies out there in the fossil fuels industry.. People who chuck tons of money at lobbyists to try to smear anything that could go after their profits.. Hell it took forever to pin anything against tobbaco due to the exact same motives.. Alittle food for thought though, the top enviromental angencies in the United States that are government funded seem to think its happening and its man made.. As well as the panel Bush put to gether to try to disprove global warmings, came back to find that it actually is happening.. So who knows.. In the end the solutions are far more practical and cost effective than doing nothing if A) it does happen, or B) economically.
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#27 deactivated-59d151f079814
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The Earth has warmed, but humans aren't to blame. It's also not even close to being a gigantic crisis like all the alarmists want you to believe. This Global Warming "Crisis" fiasco will soon pass just like the Global Cooling fiasco of the 70's did. trix5817
That is a false comparison, the reason why they specifically were believeing that for global cooling was due to aerosol gases getting pumped in the atmosphere.. It indeed looked like it would cool it, but a overabundence lead to the opposite affect supposedly.. This isn't to suggest that global warmings is correct etc etc.. Just global cooling isn't the correct comparison.
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[QUOTE="matthayter700"][QUOTE="DBScott11"]it's real and its not the humans causing it its the sun trix5817

So what do you have to say about the geography textbook excerpt I just quoted?

So a high school geography textbook=100% correct?

Simplification maybe, but not lies.
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Remember,

The Power Is Yours!

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#30 Trelaf_TheWise
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"MY" opinion or anyone elses opinion doesn't matter because we're not scientist, let them figure it out...
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#31 Ravirr
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Hoax or not cleaning up our planet is never a bad thing
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#32 MindFreeze
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It's real. The threat has been exaggerated but I DO believe that people have suffered because of it.Hungry_bunny
People? I think you mean other species who are extremely vulnerable to temperature changes. It's funny that people overlook this. If key species in the food web go extinct we're screwed as well.
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[QUOTE="matthayter700"][QUOTE="DBScott11"]it's real and its not the humans causing it its the sun trix5817

So what do you have to say about the geography textbook excerpt I just quoted?

So a high school geography textbook=100% correct?

Thing is, it's NOT a high school geography textbook, it's a UNIVERSITY geography textbook, published by the MUN department of geography. I was more so pointing out that DBScott11 hadn't even refuted it.
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"MY" opinion or anyone elses opinion doesn't matter because we're not scientist, let them figure it out...Trelaf_TheWise
Not necessarily. To say it Carl-Sagan-style, "all assumptions must be critically examined; arguments from authority are worthless."
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#35 Bourbons3
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Yes its real. And it is most likely caused (at least in part) by us.
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[QUOTE="Hungry_bunny"]It's real. The threat has been exaggerated but I DO believe that people have suffered because of it.MindFreeze
People? I think you mean other species who are extremely vulnerable to temperature changes. It's funny that people overlook this. If key species in the food web go extinct we're screwed as well.

Species dying which in turn will lead to the suffering of people, totally implied and it's hard to fit all facts in one line :P I've heard that the number of bees in the word has decreased A LOT over the years. If bees disappear, pollination disappears, then plants, then animals, then people... not that I think that it will get that far.
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#37 LikeHaterade
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No it is not real. It's weather, and weather changes. When it's hotter than usual, GLOBAL WARMING! When it's cooler than usual, GLOBAL WARMING. The term is actually now called, "Climate Change." How quaint...
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#38 xTheExploited
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Global Warming is happening, the only is discussion is whether we are part of the cause. I'm a bit split on both sides considering that global temperatures have been increasing and decreasing ever since records have been kept. But also the fact that the temperature hasn't increased this quickly before, and it only has seemed to go on this significant rise ever since the industrial revolution, which is basically when mass emissions of carbon began.
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#39 inyourface_12
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human caused global warming is not real
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No it is not real. It's weather, and weather changes. When it's hotter than usual, GLOBAL WARMING! When it's cooler than usual, GLOBAL WARMING. The term is actually now called, "Climate Change." How quaint...LikeHaterade
Just because historically the climate has changed does not mean that our climate is changing at a natural rate right now.
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#41 matthayter700
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No it is not real. It's weather, and weather changes. When it's hotter than usual, GLOBAL WARMING! When it's cooler than usual, GLOBAL WARMING. The term is actually now called, "Climate Change." How quaint...LikeHaterade
Did it ever occur to you that it's called "Climate Change" because these changes cause cooling in some areas, such as those next to cold ocean currents that are strengthened by arctic ice melting? (ie. the Labrador current) Or did you just take the idiotic route and jump to conclusions?
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[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]No it is not real. It's weather, and weather changes. When it's hotter than usual, GLOBAL WARMING! When it's cooler than usual, GLOBAL WARMING. The term is actually now called, "Climate Change." How quaint...matthayter700
Did it ever occur to you that it's called "Climate Change" because these changes cause cooling in some areas, such as those next to cold ocean currents that are strengthened by arctic ice melting? (ie. the Labrador current) Or did you just take the idiotic route and jump to conclusions?

So why not just call it that in the first place?
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[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]No it is not real. It's weather, and weather changes. When it's hotter than usual, GLOBAL WARMING! When it's cooler than usual, GLOBAL WARMING. The term is actually now called, "Climate Change." How quaint...-Sun_Tzu-
Just because historically the climate has changed does not mean that our climate is changing at a natural rate right now.

Or numbers being massaged by scientists that push the global warming message.
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]No it is not real. It's weather, and weather changes. When it's hotter than usual, GLOBAL WARMING! When it's cooler than usual, GLOBAL WARMING. The term is actually now called, "Climate Change." How quaint...LikeHaterade
Just because historically the climate has changed does not mean that our climate is changing at a natural rate right now.

Or numbers being massaged by scientists that push the global warming message.

Ok? Which numbers have been "massaged"?
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Of course global warming is real. Are we causing it? I doubt that. Either way, we still need to get off fossil fuels and improve the environment; if it cools the planet down in the process then that'll be an added bonus.

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pretty much this. i think hybrids are a good idea, only for the reason that they save gas money. the sun is heating up, an the earth goes through warm/cold cycles. so theres no reason to think humans are doing this.
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[QUOTE="matthayter700"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]No it is not real. It's weather, and weather changes. When it's hotter than usual, GLOBAL WARMING! When it's cooler than usual, GLOBAL WARMING. The term is actually now called, "Climate Change." How quaint...LikeHaterade
Did it ever occur to you that it's called "Climate Change" because these changes cause cooling in some areas, such as those next to cold ocean currents that are strengthened by arctic ice melting? (ie. the Labrador current) Or did you just take the idiotic route and jump to conclusions?

So why not just call it that in the first place?

Perhaps because their initial terminology was simplistic?
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#47 matthayter700
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[QUOTE="UNHOLY_basic"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Of course global warming is real. Are we causing it? I doubt that. Either way, we still need to get off fossil fuels and improve the environment; if it cools the planet down in the process then that'll be an added bonus.

pretty much this. i think hybrids are a good idea, only for the reason that they save gas money. the sun is heating up, an the earth goes through warm/cold cycles. so theres no reason to think humans are doing this.

Aside from the fact that climate patterns since the industrial revolution are quite different from those that were present before then...
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[QUOTE="matthayter700"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="matthayter700"] Just because historically the climate has changed does not mean that our climate is changing at a natural rate right now.

Or numbers being massaged by scientists that push the global warming message.

Ok? Which numbers have been "massaged"?

The hockey-stick graphs done on temperature. Just about steady with a few minor fluctuations throughout the ages, and a sudden global temperature rise.
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[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="matthayter700"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"] Or numbers being massaged by scientists that push the global warming message.

Ok? Which numbers have been "massaged"?

The hockey-stick graphs done on temperature. Just about steady with a few minor fluctuations throughout the ages, and a sudden global temperature rise.

Can you show me an example?
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[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="matthayter700"] Did it ever occur to you that it's called "Climate Change" because these changes cause cooling in some areas, such as those next to cold ocean currents that are strengthened by arctic ice melting? (ie. the Labrador current) Or did you just take the idiotic route and jump to conclusions?matthayter700
So why not just call it that in the first place?

Perhaps because their initial terminology was simplistic?

:lol: Took them long enough to come up with a better term.