Zimmerman was NOT beaten by Travon as claimed

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Princess_Lime"] Oh come on I don't know bucked's history but Zimmerman is a murder and should be locked up...Princess_Lime

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Princess_Lime"] Oh come on I don't know bucked's history but Zimmerman is a murder and should be locked up...Princess_Lime

[QUOTE="Princess_Lime"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]How do you know he's a murderer? He may very well be...or he may very well have defended himself. You have to look at it from his potential side also. If you were him and just defended yourself, would you want everyone to assume you were a murderer just because the person was a different skin color?

Person0

[QUOTE="Princess_Lime"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]How do you know he's a murderer? He may very well be...or he may very well have defended himself. You have to look at it from his potential side also. If you were him and just defended yourself, would you want everyone to assume you were a murderer just because the person was a different skin color?

Person0

[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="Princess_Lime"] Even if you wanna say self defence it don't justify shooting the kid. Zimmerman had 100 lbs on this kid that he stalked and killed. For what? A punch to the face? I can now kill people who hit me? MgamerBD

Well it isn't the best quality video we also don't know how long after that the video is from.

Anyways

"The initial police report noted that Zimmerman was bleeding from the back of the head and nose, and after medical attention it was decided that he was in good enough condition to travel in a police cruiser to the Sanford, Fla., police station for questioning."

lawlllllll

Knew Zimmerman's story was fishy as fvck.

This does prove that the story could have been fabricated...

Well I suppose there's new information for these revelations.

well i cant say anything as this happend in america and i dont know the law over there yet the area where the young man was killed but are you allowed to kill someone in america if they are bashing you up?

here in australia if you killed someone in a brawl even if you think your life is in danger your pretty much fcked,you would be thrown in jail.

Zimmerman seems to be embelishing his story.

They aren't going to let someone who is actively bleeding into a police station to be questioned about a possible murder............

If he was still bleeding there is a danger of contracting blood transferred diseases. So, if he was actively bleeding he would not have been cleared........

The video does paint a different picture then the one implied by the police report though.

Video has leaked of Zimmerman being released from a cop car with no injuires at all on him. There seems to of been no struggle and everything he has said about him getting beaten up and had his nose broken and stuff are FALSE! no such thing has happened at all

Edit: i found the linkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hqAskQ21aE

killblade37

[QUOTE="killblade37"]

Video has leaked of Zimmerman being released from a cop car with no injuires at all on him. There seems to of been no struggle and everything he has said about him getting beaten up and had his nose broken and stuff are FALSE! no such thing has happened at all

Edit: i found the linkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hqAskQ21aE

LJS9502_basic

Daddy is a retired judge that is why. I can tell you from that video that Zimmerman has no blood on his shirt and does not even have any type of bandage on his clearly shaven head. He hops out the police car with no help but has a broken nose and there is no wet spot or grass on his back. The police are clearly treating him with respect and the police car video is not taken or is suddenly missing. The police don't check Zimmerman for drugs/alcohol and the body of Mr. Martin has no visible signs of struggle.

I told you from the description of the events as told by Mr. Zimmerman that it was almost impossible that the shooting was self defense. This video shows even more evidence that the police touched the jacket from a shooting that should have been in evidence.

[QUOTE="Princess_Lime"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Can the mods just ban you already?

Pirate700

He did murder someone that's a fact. He's the one that has to prove it was in self-defense. The burden is on him. If he can't prove it was in self-defense than all we have is murder, so he should be jailed for life.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="killblade37"]

Video has leaked of Zimmerman being released from a cop car with no injuires at all on him. There seems to of been no struggle and everything he has said about him getting beaten up and had his nose broken and stuff are FALSE! no such thing has happened at all

Edit: i found the linkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hqAskQ21aE

noscope-ak47

Daddy is a retired judge that is why. I can tell you from that video that Zimmerman has no blood on his shirt and does not even have any type of bandage on his clearly shaven head. He hops out the police car with no help but has a broken nose and there is no wet spot or grass on his back. The police are clearly treating him with respect and the police car video is not taken or is suddenly missing. The police don't check Zimmerman for drugs/alcohol and the body of Mr. Martin has no visible signs of struggle.

I told you from the description of the events as told by Mr. Zimmerman that it was almost impossible that the shooting was self defense. This video shows even more evidence that the police touched the jacket from a shooting that should have been in evidence.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="killblade37"]

Video has leaked of Zimmerman being released from a cop car with no injuires at all on him. There seems to of been no struggle and everything he has said about him getting beaten up and had his nose broken and stuff are FALSE! no such thing has happened at all

Edit: i found the linkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hqAskQ21aE

noscope-ak47

Daddy is a retired judge that is why. I can tell you from that video that Zimmerman has no blood on his shirt and does not even have any type of bandage on his clearly shaven head. He hops out the police car with no help but has a broken nose and there is no wet spot or grass on his back. The police are clearly treating him with respect and the police car video is not taken or is suddenly missing. The police don't check Zimmerman for drugs/alcohol and the body of Mr. Martin has no visible signs of struggle.

I told you from the description of the events as told by Mr. Zimmerman that it was almost impossible that the shooting was self defense. This video shows even more evidence that the police touched the jacket from a shooting that should have been in evidence.

Again, I don't understand all this debate. He killed a person, that's a fact. He's the one that has to prove self-defense. Otherwise, he's just a common murderer and should be locked in.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Princess_Lime"] Oh come on I don't know bucked's history but Zimmerman is a murder and should be locked up...nunovlopes

He did murder someone that's a fact. He's the one that has to prove it was in self-defense. The burden is on him. If he can't prove it was in self-defense than all we have is murder, so he should be jailed for life.

[QUOTE="noscope-ak47"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] So the witness lied....why? The police lied.....why? LInk.LJS9502_basic

Daddy is a retired judge that is why. I can tell you from that video that Zimmerman has no blood on his shirt and does not even have any type of bandage on his clearly shaven head. He hops out the police car with no help but has a broken nose and there is no wet spot or grass on his back. The police are clearly treating him with respect and the police car video is not taken or is suddenly missing. The police don't check Zimmerman for drugs/alcohol and the body of Mr. Martin has no visible signs of struggle.

I told you from the description of the events as told by Mr. Zimmerman that it was almost impossible that the shooting was self defense. This video shows even more evidence that the police touched the jacket from a shooting that should have been in evidence.

Even if he was assaulted, he was much bigger than the kid and the kid was UNARMED, shooting him was not needed. It's not self-defense if your life is not in danger. His life was never in danger. This guy should rot in jail.

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]How do you know he's a murderer? He may very well be...or he may very well have defended himself. You have to look at it from his potential side also. If you were him and just defended yourself, would you want everyone to assume you were a murderer just because the person was a different skin color?

LJS9502_basic

He did murder someone that's a fact. He's the one that has to prove it was in self-defense. The burden is on him. If he can't prove it was in self-defense than all we have is murder, so he should be jailed for life.

No, you got it backwards. The government have all the proof they need, he killed the kid.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="noscope-ak47"]

Daddy is a retired judge that is why. I can tell you from that video that Zimmerman has no blood on his shirt and does not even have any type of bandage on his clearly shaven head. He hops out the police car with no help but has a broken nose and there is no wet spot or grass on his back. The police are clearly treating him with respect and the police car video is not taken or is suddenly missing. The police don't check Zimmerman for drugs/alcohol and the body of Mr. Martin has no visible signs of struggle.

I told you from the description of the events as told by Mr. Zimmerman that it was almost impossible that the shooting was self defense. This video shows even more evidence that the police touched the jacket from a shooting that should have been in evidence.

nunovlopes

Even if he was assaulted, he was much bigger than the kid and the kid was UNARMED, shooting him was not needed. It's not self-defense if your life is not in danger. His life was never in danger. This guy should rot in jail.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

He did murder someone that's a fact. He's the one that has to prove it was in self-defense. The burden is on him. If he can't prove it was in self-defense than all we have is murder, so he should be jailed for life.

nunovlopes

No, you got it backwards. The government have all the proof they need, he killed the kid.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

He did murder someone that's a fact. He's the one that has to prove it was in self-defense. The burden is on him. If he can't prove it was in self-defense than all we have is murder, so he should be jailed for life.

nunovlopes

No, you got it backwards. The government have all the proof they need, he killed the kid.

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] No. You have that backwards. The burden of proof IS ALWAYS on the government.Renevent42

No, you got it backwards. The government have all the proof they need, he killed the kid.

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]So then I have to ask for your proof that the investigating cops on the scene knew he was a retired US judge......no blood was ever stated to be on the shirt. They said it was wet with grass stains. There is also some mark ON his head if you look closely. The video is bad. And you have him treated for a broken nose by a doctor. Did he lie as well? Why would the witness lie? There are ZERO witnesses that contradict his story. In the US we have to look at the facts. One witness that say him on the ground being beaten beats 10 bad videos taken after he was treated. I'm using the witnesses statement. It does back up Zimmerman. There is also some alleged statements that Martin was trying to go for the gun. Like I said...reasonable doubt. Period.

LJS9502_basic

Even if he was assaulted, he was much bigger than the kid and the kid was UNARMED, shooting him was not needed. It's not self-defense if your life is not in danger. His life was never in danger. This guy should rot in jail.

If his head was being smacked to the ground with such violence, to the point of his life being in danger, it WOULD leave severe bruises and it WOULD show in the video. And the fact the kid was unarmed and half his size makes a huge difference. The guy could have controlled the kid with shooting him.

[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

No, you got it backwards. The government have all the proof they need, he killed the kid.

sonicare

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

Even if he was assaulted, he was much bigger than the kid and the kid was UNARMED, shooting him was not needed. It's not self-defense if your life is not in danger. His life was never in danger. This guy should rot in jail.

nunovlopes

If his head was being smacked to the ground with such violence, to the point of his life being in danger, it WOULD leave severe bruises and it WOULD show in the video. And the fact the kid was unarmed and half his size makes a huge difference. The guy could have controlled the kid with shooting him.

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="Renevent42"] That's not how it works. The state has to have enough evidence to show Zimmerman was not defending himself and killed him in an illegal manner. The fact he killed Martin alone is not enough. According to an article I read, the cops actually did want to charge him with man slaughter but the state attorney's office said they did not have enough evidence, so the investigation continued. So you indeed do have it backwards, the state has to build a case that they feel has enough evidence for a successful prosecution first, otherwise arresting him actually HURTS their chances as once you arrest him, you only have like 19 days to file charges.LJS9502_basic

Ok, didn't know that.

[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

No, you got it backwards. The government have all the proof they need, he killed the kid.

sonicare

Self defense would make the shooting LEGAL...there are laws in place that actually defend the action (stand your ground). Insanity, on the other hand, does not make a crime legal...it's merely a defense and a consideration the court can take in a crime.

So the police report says he was bleeding and his back was wet and full of grass as if he was lying on the ground for a bit and that he was treated by an SFD before being taken to the police station.

A broke nose isn't very obvious and the SFD probably cleaned up all of the cuts and whatnot on the scene to stop infection.

I guess we'll just ignore the police report then and go with some low resolution video on youtube. It's just easier to make assumptions and call him racist. Must make you all feel so high and mighty that you can safely accuse the guy from your armchair.

I'm not saying what happened was right, but lately the assumptions and misinformation that go against that of the police report and witness reports are really annoying me. The media wants to see him hung and the internet is jumping on him because they like being the white knight in these situations.

I'm not sure who to believe at this point. There has been too many sources, too many stories, and too much media coverage to really understand what went on. I know that people want to place blame for a crime like this, but creating the whole picture of what happened takes time.

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] No. You have that backwards. The burden of proof IS ALWAYS on the government.LJS9502_basic

No, you got it backwards. The government have all the proof they need, he killed the kid.

Ok update the lead homicide detective wanted a arrest warrent for Mr. Zimmerman and the only eye witness saw only one person on the ground not two. He turned away to get his dog and hears a young man yelling for help then a gun shot and the cries stop.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

No, you got it backwards. The government have all the proof they need, he killed the kid.

noscope-ak47

Ok update the lead homicide detective wanted a arrest warrent for Mr. Zimmerman and the only eye witness saw only one person on the ground not two. He turned away to get his dog and hears a young man yelling for help then a gun shot and the cries stop.

There were more than one eye witness.

One eye witness saw a guy in a red shirt on the ground.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

No, you got it backwards. The government have all the proof they need, he killed the kid.

noscope-ak47

Ok update the lead homicide detective wanted a arrest warrent for Mr. Zimmerman and the only eye witness saw only one person on the ground not two. He turned away to get his dog and hears a young man yelling for help then a gun shot and the cries stop.

So the police report says he was bleeding and his back was wet and full of grass as if he was lying on the ground for a bit and that he was treated by an SFD before being taken to the police station.

A broke nose isn't very obvious and the SFD probably cleaned up all of the cuts and whatnot on the scene to stop infection.

I guess we'll just ignore the police report then and go with some low resolution video on youtube. It's just easier to make assumptions and call him racist. Must make you all feel so high and mighty that you can safely accuse the guy from your armchair.

I'm not saying what happened was right, but lately the assumptions and misinformation that go against that of the police report and witness reports are really annoying me. The media wants to see him hung and the internet is jumping on him because they like being the white knight in these situations.

Wasdie

That was the 2nd police report but the 1st one makes no mention of any injuries to Mr. Zimmerman.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

So the police report says he was bleeding and his back was wet and full of grass as if he was lying on the ground for a bit and that he was treated by an SFD before being taken to the police station.

A broke nose isn't very obvious and the SFD probably cleaned up all of the cuts and whatnot on the scene to stop infection.

I guess we'll just ignore the police report then and go with some low resolution video on youtube. It's just easier to make assumptions and call him racist. Must make you all feel so high and mighty that you can safely accuse the guy from your armchair.

I'm not saying what happened was right, but lately the assumptions and misinformation that go against that of the police report and witness reports are really annoying me. The media wants to see him hung and the internet is jumping on him because they like being the white knight in these situations.

noscope-ak47

That was the 2nd police report but the 1st one makes no mention of any injuries to Mr. Zimmerman.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

So the police report says he was bleeding and his back was wet and full of grass as if he was lying on the ground for a bit and that he was treated by an SFD before being taken to the police station.

A broke nose isn't very obvious and the SFD probably cleaned up all of the cuts and whatnot on the scene to stop infection.

I guess we'll just ignore the police report then and go with some low resolution video on youtube. It's just easier to make assumptions and call him racist. Must make you all feel so high and mighty that you can safely accuse the guy from your armchair.

I'm not saying what happened was right, but lately the assumptions and misinformation that go against that of the police report and witness reports are really annoying me. The media wants to see him hung and the internet is jumping on him because they like being the white knight in these situations.

noscope-ak47

That was the 2nd police report but the 1st one makes no mention of any injuries to Mr. Zimmerman.

Havent read any of the thread but i bet LJ and Pirate argued against everyone else in regards to Zimmerman.

Because they hate blacks.

Havent read any of the thread but i bet LJ and Pirate argued against everyone else in regards to Zimmerman.

Because they hate blacks.

Ilovegames1992

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Havent read any of the thread but i bet LJ and Pirate argued against everyone else in regards to Zimmerman.

Because they hate blacks.

LJS9502_basic

Thanks, i agree. Racist.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Havent read any of the thread but i bet LJ and Pirate argued against everyone else in regards to Zimmerman.

Because they hate blacks.

Ilovegames1992

Thanks, i agree. Racist.

Havent read any of the thread but i bet LJ and Pirate argued against everyone else in regards to Zimmerman.

Because they hate blacks.

Ilovegames1992

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Havent read any of the thread but i bet LJ and Pirate argued against everyone else in regards to Zimmerman.

Because they hate blacks.

sonicare

Now will LJ chastise this comment or maintain his hypocritical nature?

OT waits in suspense.

Funny though :lol:

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Havent read any of the thread but i bet LJ and Pirate argued against everyone else in regards to Zimmerman.

Because they hate blacks.

Ilovegames1992

Now will LJ chastise this comment or maintain his hypocritical nature?

OT waits in suspense.

Funny though :lol:

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Havent read any of the thread but i bet LJ and Pirate argued against everyone else in regards to Zimmerman.

Because they hate blacks.

Ilovegames1992

Now will LJ chastise this comment or maintain his hypocritical nature?

OT waits in suspense.

Funny though :lol:

Just wondering. Are you Black?

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="sonicare"] I dont think they hate blacks. They arent british.BluRayHiDef

Now will LJ chastise this comment or maintain his hypocritical nature?

OT waits in suspense.

Funny though :lol:

Just wondering. Are you Black?

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="sonicare"] I dont think they hate blacks. They arent british.BluRayHiDef

Now will LJ chastise this comment or maintain his hypocritical nature?

OT waits in suspense.

Funny though :lol:

Just wondering. Are you Black?

No. I'm one of the most white people on the planet. I just like to call out LJ's bullsh!t regardless of the topic.