A collection of what we know about BF4!

The only thing I am not sure I like is the spotting multiple enemies feature.  does this mean you just gesture in a direction and anyone onscreen is spotted?

NaveedLife

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Also, commander mode on a tablet is badass. Can't wait to play it on my Surface Pro!

with_teeth26

Yeah I can't wait to be sitting on my iPad while casually commanding players. It's going to be like an RTS where you're units are real people.

natural selection 2 has a system like this (minus the ipad) and it works pretty well, although that is on a much smaller scale. hopefully it still works with 64 players. 

My interest level in this game has been gradually rising as this news is trickling in, its making me want ot reinstall BF3 but I know that will be a mistake. 

As long as the counter knifing is only from the front, I am very into the concept.

I know BF3 has a glitch where you can tap the knife from certain positions and kill somebody knifing you as long as they have 50% health or below, so it's like they took that concept and made it a badass feature.

Also the third person animations of players flinching and stuff are nice touches, and I'm excited to see what animations they add in.

flinch mechanic

I waive my hands in the air sayin' eeeeeeeyoo!

Looks rather underwhelming.

Montage of a fan's gameplay from E3, includes the counter knife view from first person

 

 

wis3boi

Oh lulz, if you pause at 2:12 you can counter knife even while your back is turned.mitu123

[QUOTE="mitu123"]Oh lulz, if you pause at 2:12 you can counter knife even while your back is turned.nutcrackr

[QUOTE="nutcrackr"][QUOTE="mitu123"]Oh lulz, if you pause at 2:12 you can counter knife even while your back is turned.mitu123

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="nutcrackr"] Demize99 (DICE dev) said this about counter-knifing "You cannot counter knife attacks: From the side, behind, or if you are prone. You can ONLY counter Front Attacks when you are Crouched or Standing." http://www.reddit.com/user/Demize99Elann2008

You are given the option to counter attack. There would be no point in that icon if you couldn't do it.

You are given the option to counter attack. There would be no point in that icon if you couldn't do it.mitu123

[QUOTE="mitu123"]You are given the option to counter attack. There would be no point in that icon if you couldn't do it.nutcrackr

[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="mitu123"]The guy in the video was crouching and wasn't even facing the enemy and yet he's able to counter knife...

mitu123

You are given the option to counter attack. There would be no point in that icon if you couldn't do it.

that's a bug, you can't counter-knife in that position. It wouldn't really make sense either unless you had cat-like reflexes which is inhuman. :P  I mean, if the Dev said you can't.. then you can't.  There's no going around it.  And what you saw was a bug.  

Essentially, yes. So with these houses that collapse, you know the one and two storey houses that completely gets obliterated? Well have maps with that type of gameplay, too.

Essentially, yes. So with these houses that collapse, you know the one and two storey houses that completely gets obliterated? Well have maps with that type of gameplay, too.

Essentially, yes. So with these houses that collapse, you know the one and two storey houses that completely gets obliterated? Well have maps with that type of gameplay, too.

BF4 will have maps with BC2 style destruction apparently

Essentially, yes. So with these houses that collapse, you know the one and two storey houses that completely gets obliterated? Well have maps with that type of gameplay, too.nutcrackr

http://www.edge-online.com/features/inside-battlefield-4-multiplayer-dice-on-destruction-squads-commander-mode-and-more/

I don't understand the fascination with bc2's physics....the buildings were empty and were scripted to fall in the same lego-pieces pattern every time

[QUOTE="nutcrackr"]BF4 will have maps with BC2 style destruction apparently

Essentially, yes. So with these houses that collapse, you know the one and two storey houses that completely gets obliterated? Well have maps with that type of gameplay, too.wis3boi

http://www.edge-online.com/features/inside-battlefield-4-multiplayer-dice-on-destruction-squads-commander-mode-and-more/

I don't understand the fascination with bc2's physics....the buildings were empty and were scripted to fall in the same lego-pieces pattern every time

I don't understand the fascination with bc2's physics....the buildings were empty and were scripted to fall in the same lego-pieces pattern every timewis3boi

So the skyscraper building, was it scripted to come down or do you have to plant c4 at main supports to bring it down? Either way, it was pretty cool seeing everyone jumping off when the building was about to collapse and even the helicopter shooting at them through the windows.

BF4 has definitely got my attention after seeing some stuff in the MP trailer, wasn't impressed with the single-player  but that's just standard, though I thoroughly enjoyed Bad Company 2's single-player campaign.

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]I don't understand the fascination with bc2's physics....the buildings were empty and were scripted to fall in the same lego-pieces pattern every timenutcrackr

it wasn't so much in how they crumbled but  how the maps would change from the beginning of a match to the end. By the end of longer games cover is less plentiful and you need to be careful going into buildings that might collapse. Hearing a building creaking and groaning right before collapsing while you were holed up on the second floor made for some exciting moments.

It added a layer to the gameplay that was largely absent from BF3. I don't think the destruction is as important as some people make it out to be though. 

It just occured to me to ask...is Rush in the game?  What  modes are confirmed?  I thnk Rush should be scrapped or a DLC mode for special maps.

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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]I don't understand the fascination with bc2's physics....the buildings were empty and were scripted to fall in the same lego-pieces pattern every timewith_teeth26

it wasn't so much in how they crumbled but  how the maps would change from the beginning of a match to the end. By the end of longer games cover is less plentiful and you need to be careful going into buildings that might collapse. Hearing a building creaking and groaning right before collapsing while you were holed up on the second floor made for some exciting moments.

It added a layer to the gameplay that was largely absent from BF3. I don't think the destruction is as important as some people make it out to be though. 

I rather have destruction than no destruction at all...

BF3 didn't have enough buildings to blow up so that increased the number of campers...

[QUOTE="Gooeykat"]Counter knife feature you say? *strokes beard* Very interesting.AncientDozer

[QUOTE="nutcrackr"]BF4 will have maps with BC2 style destruction apparently

Essentially, yes. So with these houses that collapse, you know the one and two storey houses that completely gets obliterated? Well have maps with that type of gameplay, too.wis3boi

http://www.edge-online.com/features/inside-battlefield-4-multiplayer-dice-on-destruction-squads-commander-mode-and-more/

I don't understand the fascination with bc2's physics....the buildings were empty and were scripted to fall in the same lego-pieces pattern every time

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="nutcrackr"]BF4 will have maps with BC2 style destruction apparently

Essentially, yes. So with these houses that collapse, you know the one and two storey houses that completely gets obliterated? Well have maps with that type of gameplay, too.mitu123

http://www.edge-online.com/features/inside-battlefield-4-multiplayer-dice-on-destruction-squads-commander-mode-and-more/

I don't understand the fascination with bc2's physics....the buildings were empty and were scripted to fall in the same lego-pieces pattern every time

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="nutcrackr"]BF4 will have maps with BC2 style destruction apparently

Essentially, yes. So with these houses that collapse, you know the one and two storey houses that completely gets obliterated? Well have maps with that type of gameplay, too.mitu123

http://www.edge-online.com/features/inside-battlefield-4-multiplayer-dice-on-destruction-squads-commander-mode-and-more/

I don't understand the fascination with bc2's physics....the buildings were empty and were scripted to fall in the same lego-pieces pattern every time

knock out all the walls and campers become irrelevant

or just collapse it outright like here

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

I don't understand the fascination with bc2's physics....the buildings were empty and were scripted to fall in the same lego-pieces pattern every time

wis3boi

knock out all the walls and campers become irrelevant

or just collapse it outright like here

Blowing up walls do help but don't get rid of them.

And hilariously enough you showed one of the few maps(like 3) where you can destroy an entire building in the game.

2 new modes revealed!

Now, you may notice that there is a new gamemode called Obliteration.
It seems that Siege is the only map that makes use of that gamemode and currently there is no further information on it (no descriptions, no images, nothing).

Let the speculations begin!

-- EDIT --

Whilst peeking around I discovered yet another gamemode called Elimination.

Moreover, I found some more info about Obliteration. 
More specifically, it seems to be a bomb-oriented gamemode (with several drop-offs) with the additional presence of a High Value Target.
Elimination seems like a CS-inspired gamemode, for attracting some attention from the eSports scene.
I haven't found any details at the moment, but the name itself implies that it is DM with no respawns.

Finally, the RU faction is still present in the game, however I cannot confirm if it will be a playable faction (yet).

Good folks over at /r/battlefield_4 have run up a list of all the sweet features of BF4.  Basically, this is what BF3 wanted to be.  It's a true BF2 sequel

wis3boi

Maybe its my cynicism kicking in, but how confident are you that DICE is actually going to bring forth these changes for BF4 if it was promised for BF3? Why do I feel like I'm going to see a similar thread for when we're hyping BF5 in a couple years.

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

Good folks over at /r/battlefield_4 have run up a list of all the sweet features of BF4.  Basically, this is what BF3 wanted to be.  It's a true BF2 sequel

Cwagmire21

Maybe its my cynicism kicking in, but how confident are you that DICE is actually going to bring forth these changes for BF4 if it was promised for BF3? Why do I feel like I'm going to see a similar thread for when we're hyping BF5 in a couple years.

these things were never promised for bf3, and we saw them used live on E3 in BF4

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

Good folks over at /r/battlefield_4 have run up a list of all the sweet features of BF4.  Basically, this is what BF3 wanted to be.  It's a true BF2 sequel

Cwagmire21

Maybe its my cynicism kicking in, but how confident are you that DICE is actually going to bring forth these changes for BF4 if it was promised for BF3? Why do I feel like I'm going to see a similar thread for when we're hyping BF5 in a couple years.

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1. WHERE IS MY T-90's!? 2. are they really keeping the scope sway??? Recon finally sounds good (after bf3's pathetic recon any recon would sound good tho) but the fking scope sway needs to go away, pleaaaaase. I don't want to hold a button before firing when im already adjusting bullet drop/bullet delay time...silversix_

[QUOTE="silversix_"]1. WHERE IS MY T-90's!? 2. are they really keeping the scope sway??? Recon finally sounds good (after bf3's pathetic recon any recon would sound good tho) but the fking scope sway needs to go away, pleaaaaase. I don't want to hold a button before firing when im already adjusting bullet drop/bullet delay time...Elann2008

[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="silversix_"]1. WHERE IS MY T-90's!? 2. are they really keeping the scope sway??? Recon finally sounds good (after bf3's pathetic recon any recon would sound good tho) but the fking scope sway needs to go away, pleaaaaase. I don't want to hold a button before firing when im already adjusting bullet drop/bullet delay time...silversix_

[QUOTE="silversix_"]

[QUOTE="Elann2008"] Why would they remove sway? Without sway, Sniper class would be OP and you will have a BF4-camp-infested game in seconds. Holding a button (holding breath) as a sniper is in like almost every military shooter.Elann2008

2 new modes revealed!

Now, you may notice that there is a new gamemode called Obliteration.
It seems that Siege is the only map that makes use of that gamemode and currently there is no further information on it (no descriptions, no images, nothing).

Let the speculations begin!

-- EDIT --

Whilst peeking around I discovered yet another gamemode called Elimination.

Moreover, I found some more info about Obliteration. 
More specifically, it seems to be a bomb-oriented gamemode (with several drop-offs) with the additional presence of a High Value Target.
Elimination seems like a CS-inspired gamemode, for attracting some attention from the eSports scene.
I haven't found any details at the moment, but the name itself implies that it is DM with no respawns.

Finally, the RU faction is still present in the game, however I cannot confirm if it will be a playable faction (yet).

mitu123

If elimination is a no respawn type mode as rumored, I really hope DICE has rebalanced things to make it work.

Having a helicopter or two might make it impossible for infantry to survive, whereas the Medic class (or Assault if Assault is still the medic) can keep reviving teammates so nobody dies if they don't do something like limit revives or change how revives work or whatever.

DICE tends to halfass game modes that aren't Rush or Conquest (such as CTF and Gun Game), so hopefully they've given a lot of thought into the game modes here.

DICE tends to halfass game modes that aren't Rush or Conquest (such as CTF and Gun Game), so hopefully they've given a lot of thought into the game modes here.

SPYDER0416

I just hope they stop making russian enemies with silly accents and go back to MEC.

It'd be also cool if they didn't make awful maps like metro and seine crossing.

Honestly, BF4 seems like a expansion to BF3. I probably won't pick it up for a long time.

I just wish that Dice and EA would put a limit on the the DLC palooza that BF3 had. How is it fair that DLC content by itself (combined) includes more weapons/maps than the vanilla version? It even has a new game mode. This is what really pissed me off when I bought the so called, 'Standard Edition'. What bullshit. If they are going to do the same with BF4, than the standard version should be a demo by itself.

Just wait, the current Pre-order edition of BF4 will be botched once again by another DLC-fest compilation pack by the end of its lifespan.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

2 new modes revealed!

Now, you may notice that there is a new gamemode called Obliteration.
It seems that Siege is the only map that makes use of that gamemode and currently there is no further information on it (no descriptions, no images, nothing).

Let the speculations begin!

-- EDIT --

Whilst peeking around I discovered yet another gamemode called Elimination.

Moreover, I found some more info about Obliteration. 
More specifically, it seems to be a bomb-oriented gamemode (with several drop-offs) with the additional presence of a High Value Target.
Elimination seems like a CS-inspired gamemode, for attracting some attention from the eSports scene.
I haven't found any details at the moment, but the name itself implies that it is DM with no respawns.

Finally, the RU faction is still present in the game, however I cannot confirm if it will be a playable faction (yet).

SPYDER0416

If elimination is a no respawn type mode as rumored, I really hope DICE has rebalanced things to make it work.

Having a helicopter or two might make it impossible for infantry to survive, whereas the Medic class (or Assault if Assault is still the medic) can keep reviving teammates so nobody dies if they don't do something like limit revives or change how revives work or whatever.

DICE tends to halfass game modes that aren't Rush or Conquest (such as CTF and Gun Game), so hopefully they've given a lot of thought into the game modes here.

And I'm guessing they'll remove vehicles like Team Deathmatch as well.