Alein versus Predator demo......fail

I was really excited when i got he news for the demo being up i downloaded it played it and it was awful. Well i dont want to be harse bu it was very underwhelming. The alien controls and camera are bad, the gunplay is really just subpar, i didnt get to play the predator but i was really hopin for this to be good. I appreciateed what they were trying to do but the game didnt really turn out to be that great. What are your thoughts?

Agreeeeed

I was really excited when i got he news for the demo being up i downloaded it played it and it was awful. Well i dont want to be harse bu it was very underwhelming. The alien controls and camera are bad, the gunplay is really just subpar, i didnt get to play the predator but i was really hopin for this to be good. I appreciateed what they were trying to do but the game didnt really turn out to be that great. What are your thoughts?

Shuraijuro

i'm going to rent the 360 version since i still have some money on my gift card

What did you people honestly expect from developers like Rebellion?

[QUOTE="Shuraijuro"]

I was really excited when i got he news for the demo being up i downloaded it played it and it was awful. Well i dont want to be harse bu it was very underwhelming. The alien controls and camera are bad, the gunplay is really just subpar, i didnt get to play the predator but i was really hopin for this to be good. I appreciateed what they were trying to do but the game didnt really turn out to be that great. What are your thoughts?

kevy619

im not talking abou the visuals dude i meant the actual gameplay was very underwhelming. Graphics in the demo werent that great but thats becasue the version is direct x 9 and not the full direct x 11 version. Overall demo was a dissapointment, wheneever a host left the game would stop find a new host and then restart. Pretty bad demo. Im sorry rebellion but you just epic failed in my books. I dont want to sound too harsh but i feel like this game needs another year of development. If this game were to be released now it would be a crime, it has so much potential. Game feels very unfinished.

[QUOTE="kevy619"][QUOTE="Shuraijuro"]

I was really excited when i got he news for the demo being up i downloaded it played it and it was awful. Well i dont want to be harse bu it was very underwhelming. The alien controls and camera are bad, the gunplay is really just subpar, i didnt get to play the predator but i was really hopin for this to be good. I appreciateed what they were trying to do but the game didnt really turn out to be that great. What are your thoughts?

Shuraijuro

im not talking abou the visuals dude i meant the actual gameplay was very underwhelming. Graphics in the demo werent that great but thats becasue the version is direct x 9 and not the full direct x 11 version. Overall demo was a dissapointment, wheneever a host left the game would stop find a new host and then restart. Pretty bad demo. Im sorry rebellion but you just epic failed in my books. I dont want to sound too harsh but i feel like this game needs another year of development. If this game were to be released now it would be a crime, it has so much potential. Game feels very unfinished.

well thats good theres dedicated servers for the final version but that dosnt fix the bad gunplay and or the ape **** camera when playing the alien. Overall the demo was not very good. If this is an indication of what the final game will be like I will not purchase it. If this is some early build demo then that is rebellions fault for putting out a garbage demo. but overall the demo was bad. I might be wron and the actual game decent but its kind of hard to expect musch when this quality of demo is presented.

well thats good theres dedicated servers for the final version but that dosnt fix the bad gunplay and or the ape **** camera when playing the alien. Overall the demo was not very good. If this is an indication of what the final game will be like I will not purchase it. If this is some early build demo then that is rebellions fault for putting out a garbage demo. but overall the demo was bad. I might be wron and the actual game decent but its kind of hard to expect musch when this quality of demo is presented.

Shuraijuro

[QUOTE="Shuraijuro"]

well thats good theres dedicated servers for the final version but that dosnt fix the bad gunplay and or the ape **** camera when playing the alien. Overall the demo was not very good. If this is an indication of what the final game will be like I will not purchase it. If this is some early build demo then that is rebellions fault for putting out a garbage demo. but overall the demo was bad. I might be wron and the actual game decent but its kind of hard to expect musch when this quality of demo is presented.

millerlight89

It's hard to pass judgment on a demo with a limited amount of players at this time and one of the worst possible game modes in any game, so I'll sort of hold off until I see some more of what it has to offer. I definitely enjoy the mixture of performance/graphics, though. It runs and looks excellent on my 2+ year old PC, so I'm grateful for that. I do hate that you can't even crouch as the Marine, though. He just feels so simplistic, minus his very handy radar. If it weren't for that, the simplicity would be almost laughable. Haven't yet played much with the Alien or Predator, though. Not that it's easy to do so with a matchmaking system and limited number of players for each race to begin with, though.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Shuraijuro"]

well thats good theres dedicated servers for the final version but that dosnt fix the bad gunplay and or the ape **** camera when playing the alien. Overall the demo was not very good. If this is an indication of what the final game will be like I will not purchase it. If this is some early build demo then that is rebellions fault for putting out a garbage demo. but overall the demo was bad. I might be wron and the actual game decent but its kind of hard to expect musch when this quality of demo is presented.

tony2077ca

The Good = Nice graphics since its only dx9 for demo, playing as alien and predator is done well and the atmosphere is top notch

The Bad = The controls for Marine are bad, The Matchmaking is really bad (although its just the demo, dedicated servers will be in retail) and the level design of this first level could have been better. The gameplay as a marine in the online demo could have been alot better imo, feels to clumsy to me.

Overall its JUST a demo and only 1 level, no dedicated servers, Dx9 instead of dx11, only one mode/map,etc... so i wont give up on the online yet.. BUT.. the singleplayer campaign is what im looking forward to alot, so I still have hope for this game. Its already better then Rogue Warrior though lol, that was worst game ive played in 24 years.

I loved the old AvP games and im hyped for this one, the demo was a bit of a let down, but demos have dissapointed me before but the full version I enjoyed, so ill give it a chance no doubt.

[QUOTE="kevy619"][QUOTE="Shuraijuro"]

I was really excited when i got he news for the demo being up i downloaded it played it and it was awful. Well i dont want to be harse bu it was very underwhelming. The alien controls and camera are bad, the gunplay is really just subpar, i didnt get to play the predator but i was really hopin for this to be good. I appreciateed what they were trying to do but the game didnt really turn out to be that great. What are your thoughts?

Shuraijuro

im not talking abou the visuals dude i meant the actual gameplay was very underwhelming. Graphics in the demo werent that great but thats becasue the version is direct x 9 and not the full direct x 11 version. Overall demo was a dissapointment, wheneever a host left the game would stop find a new host and then restart. Pretty bad demo. Im sorry rebellion but you just epic failed in my books. I dont want to sound too harsh but i feel like this game needs another year of development. If this game were to be released now it would be a crime, it has so much potential. Game feels very unfinished.

[QUOTE="Shuraijuro"]

[QUOTE="kevy619"] looked pretty xbox 360 to me, not good enough for a pc gamer.kevy619

im not talking abou the visuals dude i meant the actual gameplay was very underwhelming. Graphics in the demo werent that great but thats becasue the version is direct x 9 and not the full direct x 11 version. Overall demo was a dissapointment, wheneever a host left the game would stop find a new host and then restart. Pretty bad demo. Im sorry rebellion but you just epic failed in my books. I dont want to sound too harsh but i feel like this game needs another year of development. If this game were to be released now it would be a crime, it has so much potential. Game feels very unfinished.

[QUOTE="kevy619"][QUOTE="Shuraijuro"]

I was really excited when i got he news for the demo being up i downloaded it played it and it was awful. Well i dont want to be harse bu it was very underwhelming. The alien controls and camera are bad, the gunplay is really just subpar, i didnt get to play the predator but i was really hopin for this to be good. I appreciateed what they were trying to do but the game didnt really turn out to be that great. What are your thoughts?

im not talking abou the visuals dude i meant the actual gameplay was very underwhelming. Graphics in the demo werent that great but thats becasue the version is direct x 9 and not the full direct x 11 version. Overall demo was a dissapointment, wheneever a host left the game would stop find a new host and then restart. Pretty bad demo. Im sorry rebellion but you just epic failed in my books. I dont want to sound too harsh but i feel like this game needs another year of development. If this game were to be released now it would be a crime, it has so much potential. Game feels very unfinished.

I think those that are expecting great imporvements in DX11 graphics will be disappointed. There will be a few more nifty affects, but the look and detail of the game will be unchanged from DX9. Most of the videos I have seen have been sub-par in graphics, so this game will be relying on gameplay, which is about average. This won't be terrible, but probably a decent shooter.

Every time I enter a match, and the game loads it crashes. Yea... wtf?

quick question....is alien vision SUPPOSED to be all foggy and kinda nasty

i was playing it maxed out and i thought the game looked awful. though i only played aliens

I think those that are expecting great imporvements in DX11 graphics will be disappointed. There will be a few more nifty affects, but the look and detail of the game will be unchanged from DX9. Most of the videos I have seen have been sub-par in graphics, so this game will be relying on gameplay, which is about average. This won't be terrible, but probably a decent shooter.

zaney

The controls for Marine are bad,kozzy1234

lol Its so funny..you guys sayin this game "crappy" from what? from a demo? that have only 1 map and 1 game mode?

SRSLY guys...

[QUOTE="Cranler"] I can think of many games that look better in DX9 mode. DanielDust

There's a toggle for Alien auto-transition. Might help you.

As an Alien, you're harder to spot by the marines than you think. I'm pretty sure you see way better in the dark than them. You can break light sources, hang from ceilings and pounce.

And if you're playing as an Alien, please leave your logic and orientation habits at home.

What did you people honestly expect from developers like Rebellion?

JangoWuzHere

Sad that so many people are still uninformed. Shellshock and Rogue Warrior were made in less than a year each by the former Core Design team. RW was in developement at another studio, Bethesda wasn't satisfied and turned it over to Rebellion because of some publishing deals.

AvP is made by another team, they worked over two years on it and many of the original game's devs still work there. Also, Rebellion made some damn good games like Sniper Elite and Rogue Trooper.

Seriously I can't beleive how some people actually defend this piece of garbage. Yea I was dreaming the game to be the perfect avp game (better than the avp 2) and I really wanted it to be that game but no this is not that game.

It has avarage visuals (I saw way better visuals with better performanceon dx9), I only played marine and alien and controls are so bad I have no words to describe it. Gunplay of marine bears no satisfying, it feels very random and unnacurrate also, considering %70 of the enemies are trying to melee you or sneak around you, it is not fun. His jumping is a joke, he can't crouch. This could seem like little issues but it really harms the experience.

Alien is an another story. Camera while doing combat is bad (and yes I played the hell out of avp2 as alien, I know how it's like to be an alien). Everything is tried to be simplfied for console gamers (no dedicated button for wall and ceiling walking, leap/jump same button?) everything feels like automated and out of your control.

Unless I sucked at the game very bad, this game has grand issues. As I said I played Avp2 and it was superior to this thing in every possible way (except the visuals of course) And I'm not even complaining about the sucky map because it's a demo.

To those who thing this was alright and it will all be better when the full game arrives, enjoy your delussion for 2 more weeks while I'm enjoying AVP2.

There's a toggle for Alien auto-transition. Might help you.

As an Alien, you're harder to spot by the marines than you think. I'm pretty sure you see way better in the dark than them. You can break light sources, hang from ceilings and pounce.

And if you're playing as an Alien, please leave your logic and orientation habits at home.

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

What did you people honestly expect from developers like Rebellion?

Baranga

Sad that so many people are still uninformed. Shellshock and Rogue Warrior were made in less than a year each by the former Core Design team. RW was in developement at another studio, Bethesda wasn't satisfied and turned it over to Rebellion because of some publishing deals.

AvP is made by another team, they worked over two years on it and many of the original game's devs still work there. Also, Rebellion made some damn good games like Sniper Elite and Rogue Warrior.

Damn good game...Rogue Warrior...

Dude are you ok?

I wanted to say Rogue Trooper:lol:

The only thing i liked was the atmosphere, i didn't like the the graphics and most importantly i didn't like the gameplay, this was one of my most anticipated games, i wasn't expecting it to be perfect by my standards but i hoped it would be more fun than it was for me in the demo. I don't think i will buy it, but i am not giving up on it yet i will play a bit more in case i change my mind

i just finished playing the demo and i gotta say it's not all that bad. I mean graphics are ok, sound is good, the controlls... well hmmm... if we will be able to turn off auto wall transition and get rid of auto aim in retail version then i gues it won't be really that bad... for match making multiplayer i say NO. HOWEVER since this is only a demo and you can read on the loading screen "This demo is based on pre-release code and does not reflect quality of the final product" i believe that we will have server browser instead. All in all there is still some hope that Rebellion made some improvements. Generally the game is good it only needs a few tweeks =] cheers xD

The Good = Nice graphics since its only dx9 for demo, playing as alien and predator is done well and the atmosphere is top notch

The Bad = The controls for Marine are bad, The Matchmaking is really bad (although its just the demo, dedicated servers will be in retail) and the level design of this first level could have been better. The gameplay as a marine in the online demo could have been alot better imo, feels to clumsy to me.

Overall its JUST a demo and only 1 level, no dedicated servers, Dx9 instead of dx11, only one mode/map,etc... so i wont give up on the online yet.. BUT.. the singleplayer campaign is what im looking forward to alot, so I still have hope for this game. Its already better then Rogue Warrior though lol, that was worst game ive played in 24 years.

I loved the old AvP games and im hyped for this one, the demo was a bit of a let down, but demos have dissapointed me before but the full version I enjoyed, so ill give it a chance no doubt.

kozzy1234

quick question....is alien vision SUPPOSED to be all foggy and kinda nasty

i was playing it maxed out and i thought the game looked awful. though i only played aliens

REforever101

[QUOTE="REforever101"]

quick question....is alien vision SUPPOSED to be all foggy and kinda nasty

i was playing it maxed out and i thought the game looked awful. though i only played aliens

REforever101

I think the Alien has higher gamma by default. You see very well in the dark.

I was playing it as the Predator and i was like "ok, so now i will pull out my spear,,,,hmm ok, no spear. OK, lets go for the spike gun thingy,,,,hmmm again no gun, oh well at least i can jump really high...nope!"

Bleh, AvP 2 was looooads better!

The combi-stick replaces both.

They're working on an update to fix the matchmaking:

We've identified an issue with the matchmaking system that is causing the very long wait times to get into a PC game, and hope to release an update shortly which addresses this.

In the meantime players can ease connection issues by getting together with a group of players before entering matchmaking. Inviting friends or joining players via the Steam overlay will help work around the issue. If you need help finding players you can join one of the community groups, e.g. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/AVPI.

In addition to the matchmaking functionality the full game features dedicated servers, server browsers, and the ability to host games directly.

You know..... I think this demo is only lousy in the sense that its a very poor representation of what to generally expect from this game.

[QUOTE="kevy619"][QUOTE="Shuraijuro"]

im not talking abou the visuals dude i meant the actual gameplay was very underwhelming. Graphics in the demo werent that great but thats becasue the version is direct x 9 and not the full direct x 11 version. Overall demo was a dissapointment, wheneever a host left the game would stop find a new host and then restart. Pretty bad demo. Im sorry rebellion but you just epic failed in my books. I dont want to sound too harsh but i feel like this game needs another year of development. If this game were to be released now it would be a crime, it has so much potential. Game feels very unfinished.

millerlight89

The combi-stick replaces both.

They're working on an update to fix the matchmaking:

We've identified an issue with the matchmaking system that is causing the very long wait times to get into a PC game, and hope to release an update shortly which addresses this.

In the meantime players can ease connection issues by getting together with a group of players before entering matchmaking. Inviting friends or joining players via the Steam overlay will help work around the issue. If you need help finding players you can join one of the community groups, e.g. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/AVPI.

In addition to the matchmaking functionality the full game features dedicated servers, server browsers, and the ability to host games directly.

Baranga

What about the crashing... I still have yet to be able to play a match.

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

The combi-stick replaces both.

They're working on an update to fix the matchmaking:

We've identified an issue with the matchmaking system that is causing the very long wait times to get into a PC game, and hope to release an update shortly which addresses this.

In the meantime players can ease connection issues by getting together with a group of players before entering matchmaking. Inviting friends or joining players via the Steam overlay will help work around the issue. If you need help finding players you can join one of the community groups, e.g. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/AVPI.

In addition to the matchmaking functionality the full game features dedicated servers, server browsers, and the ability to host games directly.

morrowindnic

What about the crashing... I still have yet to be able to play a match.

The Good = Nice graphics since its only dx9 for demo, playing as alien and predator is done well and the atmosphere is top notch

The Bad = The controls for Marine are bad, The Matchmaking is really bad (although its just the demo, dedicated servers will be in retail) and the level design of this first level could have been better. The gameplay as a marine in the online demo could have been alot better imo, feels to clumsy to me.

Overall its JUST a demo and only 1 level, no dedicated servers, Dx9 instead of dx11, only one mode/map,etc... so i wont give up on the online yet.. BUT.. the singleplayer campaign is what im looking forward to alot, so I still have hope for this game. Its already better then Rogue Warrior though lol, that was worst game ive played in 24 years.

I loved the old AvP games and im hyped for this one, the demo was a bit of a let down, but demos have dissapointed me before but the full version I enjoyed, so ill give it a chance no doubt.

kozzy1234

Yes people the demo was bad but that doesn't mean the game is going to be.. I'm picking this up just because i'm a huge Pred fan. Its freggin Deathmatch people in AVP,deathmatch was never fun in avp.what do you expect and of course you have people crying about its downgraded for consoles again...

Now that it actually works this demo is awesome, and the best part is all the nubs who cant manage to fight off one little alien.

[QUOTE="morrowindnic"]

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

The combi-stick replaces both.

They're working on an update to fix the matchmaking:

We've identified an issue with the matchmaking system that is causing the very long wait times to get into a PC game, and hope to release an update shortly which addresses this.

In the meantime players can ease connection issues by getting together with a group of players before entering matchmaking. Inviting friends or joining players via the Steam overlay will help work around the issue. If you need help finding players you can join one of the community groups, e.g. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/AVPI.

In addition to the matchmaking functionality the full game features dedicated servers, server browsers, and the ability to host games directly.

millerlight89

What about the crashing... I still have yet to be able to play a match.

No it's happening with a lot of people.