are you going to quit gaming when DirectX10 is the standard for PC games?

After hearing that I can max out Crysis @ a res of 1280x1024 with my current 7800GT videocard I have decided that I will probaby not be upgrading to a Direct3D10 capable videocard for the "next-gen" era of PC gaming. 

The games that I have been looking forward to are as follows:

STALKER
Crysis
Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway
Supreme Commander
Enemy Territory: Quake Wars
HL2: Ep2, Ep3

Games like Assassin's Creed, Alan Wake, UT3 (even though it would be better on PC) I can easily rent for the X360.  All those games will be able to run on DX9 and I am assumng that I will be able to max all of them out.. although I am not sure about Brothers in Arms.  Although I might not even get the new HL2 Episodes.. it has been so long and I just have lost interest and I do not think that the new episodes will really have that much to offer.. just a scenery change. 

What are you going to do.. accept the new DX10/Vista era or just bite the bullet and stop PC games.

BTW  I know it would be hard  to do but why can't PC games be rented??  There are many PC games that I would like to play  but have simply not wanted  to spend $50 for them.

Also, do you know if Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway will be a DX10 only?? (I doubt it because not everyone will have upgraded to Vista let alone a DX10 videocard)

 
wookieeassassin

I agree that renting games would be great, but it would make profiting off of games almost impossible.

Who told you that you could max out Crysis? You have a pretty good rig, but we know next to nothing about how Crysis will run on any given computer at this point. Anybody who claims to know how a computer will run a game that nobody has played yet is pulling the information out of their ass.

You can not max out Crysis with that rig! Whoever told you that was lying!

You could not even max out most games out today with that...especially that card..ugghhh!

As for the question....huh?

DX10 is the future of gaming...so get used to it

However most games made in the next year or so will be DX9 compatiable ( except Halo...but who cares about that game?)

I for one am going to be happy to take the DX10 plunge as the difference betwen 9 and 10 is amazing.

Just waiting for the Vista bugs and drivers to be worked out before I install my Vista premium...

You might be able to max out Crysis with this rig...

QX6700@ 2.6

Dual 8800 GTXs

4 GIG ddr 2..

And you will be suprised in the difference between Crysis in DX9 and DX10...

And I say NO! most PC gamers are not going to stop gaming because of DX10

Cheaper DX10 cards will be out soon...

I'm 16 now.. when dx10 is used commonly ill prolly be at school or working and not game much (at least enough to justify the current price). Otherwise ill b too poor to get a vista pc anyways lol

if I am not mistaken the project lead said that a 7800GTX could run the game on very high settings or max.. so I am assuming that my 7800GT should be able to run it pretty high w/ DX9. OgreB I surely hope you are not serious as very very few applicationa need a quad core processor or 4GB of RAM or the most ridiculous.. 2 8800GTXs

the price of PC games greatly outweighs the value of entertainment you get from them. Most games are $50 and you cannot rent them, and if you get it out of the box and it just is plain crap you can't return it and in a given year there are maybe only 4-5 quality titles that are released. But even quality titles do not mean they have replay value.
wookieeassassin

You are correct about 7800GTX should run the game on very high settings or max also he stated the 1900X Raiden or something. Not sure why people think that you need the nicest card on the market to play this game they also said should be able to play on low settings with a 6600GT. 

Here we are.

Here is a list of confirmed information...

• Crysis will run on both DX9 & DX10 as well as Windows XP and Windows Vista.
• A graphics card that supports Shader Model 2 or higher is required.
• CryEngine2 is estimated to scale back 2 years, and scale ahead 1.5 years.
• A single 7800GTX will run the game quite well on fairly high settings according to Crysis Art Director, Michael Khaimzon.
• Jack Mamais of Crytek said in an exclusive Crysis-Online interview that his X1900XT runs the game very well at reasonably high settings ( still unoptmized ).
• Crysis will dynamically utilize all processing threads available. Meaning quad-core processors will be supported.

The following specs are estimates made by myself based on the above mentioned information and other sources. These estimates are NOT official - but are based on official information.

Ask a silly question, "games are starting to look better, will you now abandon them?" er no, i rely on my pc for games, and would never get a console. why abandon the cutting edge?

Every revelation of windows microsoft forces a new pill down our throat, an especially big one, this time, with the new generation, we moan for a while then accept it and eventually love that we are on the foretront of the gameing technology world.

the cycle continues

Microsoft is planning on releasing service pack 1 for Vista this summer.  hopefully there will be drivers released for Vista so relatively new games can run.  Once all that will happen I am planning on getting a new computer.  So I am not quitting on pc gaming so Im just getting a computer so I could met the requirements of next generation games soon to be released this fall and next year.

Ask a silly question, "games are starting to look better, will you now abandon them?" er no, i rely on my pc for games, and would never get a console. why abandon the cutting edge?

Every revelation of windows microsoft forces a new pill down our throat, an especially big one, this time, with the new generation, we moan for a while then accept it and eventually love that we are on the foretront of the gameing technology world.

This is just another reason to continue gaming.

I agree with wookieeassassin. Nobody on this thread said anything about the fact that Vista doesn' t support OpenGL (for newbies is the tehnology behind games like Doom 3, Prey, etc). The exclussion on OpenGL is move by MS to force developers to make games using DX10.
From different articles DX10 is hailed as an significant advancement, programmers will have a easier job (a cut in time to develop the game so perhaps smaller prices).
For all the console fanboys out there PC gaming is SUPPERIOR to console gaming! (Your games are made on a PC then tested on a console. Deal with it). I started on a ATARI console, moved NINTENDO then to PC where I' ll stay. As for the money I buy only the games that at the end year are nominated to Game to Year :P then I exchange with fellow addicts or have playing session at their homes.
You guys haven' t heard of borrowing from a friend a game?
Nuclear_Kernel

Is this thread meant as a joke?kort-nilsen

Vista is a great piece of programming, however i will not be told that

everytime i buy a new piece of kit the OS cant upgrade and therefore

be needing to go out and buy another Vista.  Vista is only software

and therefore should not be the one demanding anything other than we carry on

using microsoft OS and should be able multitaskable as XP can do this

so why not Vista!

Is this not illigal that they are monopolising on us havin to

buy another Vista everytime we want a new cpu or gfx card?

After hearing that I can max out Crysis @ a res of 1280x1024 with my current 7800GT videocard I have decided that I will probaby not be upgrading to a Direct3D10 capable videocard for the "next-gen" era of PC gaming. 

The games that I have been looking forward to are as follows:

STALKER
Crysis
Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway
Supreme Commander
Enemy Territory: Quake Wars
HL2: Ep2, Ep3

Games like Assassin's Creed, Alan Wake, UT3 (even though it would be better on PC) I can easily rent for the X360.  All those games will be able to run on DX9 and I am assumng that I will be able to max all of them out.. although I am not sure about Brothers in Arms.  Although I might not even get the new HL2 Episodes.. it has been so long and I just have lost interest and I do not think that the new episodes will really have that much to offer.. just a scenery change. 

What are you going to do.. accept the new DX10/Vista era or just bite the bullet and stop PC games.

BTW  I know it would be hard  to do but why can't PC games be rented??  There are many PC games that I would like to play  but have simply not wanted  to spend $50 for them.

Also, do you know if Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway will be a DX10 only?? (I doubt it because not everyone will have upgraded to Vista let alone a DX10 videocard)

 
wookieeassassin

Do what I do when it comes to buying PC games.

1. Save a little extra cash for one of the new games coming out that you really want, then grab it off the shelf and spend $40-50 on it. Now you have a game that you really want. Play the heck out of it to get your money's worth.

2. Wait for prices to drop on other titles and pick them up when they hit $20-30 price range....granted, depending on the hype of the game and how well the game has been selling; you might have to hold off 6-12 months before you see the prices drop.

3. Before you know it, you're picking up games that you wanted 6-12 months back at a lower cost and by the time you get done playing through those, the newer games that have been coming out are soon 3-6+ months old and the price on them may have dropped.

The cycle continues like this, as long as you don't rush through every single game that you've purchased.

A quick example: I wanted Company of Heroes when it came out, but I waited a while before I got it because I have a lot of troubles accepting the fact that a game costs $50. I ended up getting for about $30.00 a good 4-5 months back. I haven't beat the game yet...still have 5 more missions to play through. I've spent time online playing with and/or against my little brother. Perhaps in the next week or two I'll beat it and by that time STALKER will be out and I'll pick up a copy of that...after a bit Alone in the Dark will be out...but let's not forget that I haven't beat NWN2.

As you can see....I usually do a pretty good job following the 3 steps listed above. Granted I don't have the newest games right when they come out, but I'm ok with that.

Like I have been saying in a lot of threads about this subject -

I was going to buy a X1950XT for like $200 but because DX10 is almost here and new cards are almost here I have decided to wait.  I am going to spend that money on an Xbox 360 because I would rather play Forza 2 than Crysis.  Then maybe towards the end of the year, around the holidays I will look into upgrading my system with a DX10 card and CPU.  But honestly I'm not very excited about any of these early DX10 games coming out this year for PC and feel like it’s a waist of money to buy hardware now when it cost the most just to play them.
 
I would rather get a 360 and be able to play Forza 2 and GTA4 when they come out and then buy the DX10 card and new CPU later when they are cheaper and there are some new DX10 games I actually want to play on PC.

Why would they need to work on getting DX10 in an old operating system for free?
That makes no sense!

DX10 is part of the feature-set of Windows Vista and beyond.
Kev_Boy

There's no reason to quit PC gaming unless games REQUIRE Vista and they won't for awhile.  godofratz