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Chances are your 5970 is bottlenecked by the CPU. BC2 has unbalanced loading so CPU will see a much higher load than the GPU, unless your GPU is really weak. Things you can do: -Lower sound quality -Enable Vsync (may help smooth FPS in-game, but it will lower your maximum FPS) -Further overclock your CPU -Try changing "RenderAheadLimit" to 0 or 3 (instead of default 2). This is located in a text document called 'settings.ini' in your documents->BFBC2 folderSwiftstrike5There is no way a phenom 2 at 3.8GHz is bottlenecking that card. his CPU is VERY good. The game is just a bad console port. That's all there is to it.
There is no way a phenom 2 at 3.8GHz is bottlenecking that card. his CPU is VERY good. The game is just a bad console port. That's all there is to it.[QUOTE="Swiftstrike5"]Chances are your 5970 is bottlenecked by the CPU. BC2 has unbalanced loading so CPU will see a much higher load than the GPU, unless your GPU is really weak. Things you can do: -Lower sound quality -Enable Vsync (may help smooth FPS in-game, but it will lower your maximum FPS) -Further overclock your CPU -Try changing "RenderAheadLimit" to 0 or 3 (instead of default 2). This is located in a text document called 'settings.ini' in your documents->BFBC2 folderSF_KiLLaMaN
Yeah, it's a bad port because his CPU bottlenecks the card. I never said anything about other games. The load balancing is poor for BFBC2. If his performance is decreasing, it's because of the CPU, not the GPU.
DO NOT overclock your CPU, god, who would recommend such a thing for a 3.8ghz Phenom that probably has a stock cooler, even if it isn't a stock one that recommendation is still outrageous, it's not the CPU it's more than enough for this game, actually it's nothing, that's how the game is, performance isn't constant most of the time, if you want to do something about it just lower the shadow quality, it doesn't affect the multiplayer experience, visually, imo.DanielDust
The game performance DECREASES because the poor coding clogs up the CPU (120 -> 60FPS is poor coding. It's not normal for a game to drop that much from a stable FPS). And it was a ****ing suggestion, jeez. He clearly knows the capabilities of his system if he's already hit 3.8Ghz.
I think stock ghz 955 wont bottleneck you on BFBC2 . tho i did read somewhere that 5970 has problems with using its full power , drivers or something . Or maybe its just poor optimization as other say .
DO NOT overclock your CPU, god, who would recommend such a thing for a 3.8ghz Phenom that probably has a stock cooler, even if it isn't a stock one that recommendation is still outrageous, it's not the CPU it's more than enough for this game, actually it's nothing, that's how the game is, performance isn't constant most of the time, if you want to do something about it just lower the shadow quality, it doesn't affect the multiplayer experience, visually, imo.DanielDustpeople get fine temps on a black edition x4 at around that clock speed. if you want 4ghz and over, then yes an aftermarket cooler should be installed.[QUOTE="adde94"]Hello again guys and thanks for the fast replys. Well i dont have stock cooler i have the noctua 12. And i cant overclock the cpu any more it wont boot up then. Hmm i tryed change render to 3. And will try lower sound quality. Maybe i will buy a new cpu a intel i7 920..and OC it to like 4ghz..Do you guys think that will do it any better ? Thanks again. Keep replying ! i highly doubt you'll get much of a difference if you switch cpu's. unless your current cpu isnt a black edition, or your mobo is very bad at OC'ing, etc.
Then you shouldn't suggest things if you don't know what you're talking about, I don't know what kind of sane person, that actually bothered to read the OP, would suggest to overclock a 3.8ghz quad core even further for a game that doesn't even use half the power it already has. This suggestion of yours is as bad is the other guy with the Sector 8 avatar gsomethingclaw, when there's game problems, you should format....but at least that's a suggestion that wouldn't damage the PC for absolutely no reason, because a console port doesn't perform constantly at a certain frame rate...DanielDustAre you kidding me? He overclocked to 3.8Ghz already, so he CLEARLY knows the risks/limitations. If he wants more performance from a game that bottlenecks the CPU then he has to upgrade or overclock. I suggested the later. Apparently, I read the OP in further detail than you did. You suggested lowering the shadow settings? That's not what he wanted. It's not like the OP doesn't know that lowering graphical settings will increase performance...
[QUOTE="DanielDust"]Then you shouldn't suggest things if you don't know what you're talking about, I don't know what kind of sane person, that actually bothered to read the OP, would suggest to overclock a 3.8ghz quad core even further for a game that doesn't even use half the power it already has. This suggestion of yours is as bad is the other guy with the Sector 8 avatar gsomethingclaw, when there's game problems, you should format....but at least that's a suggestion that wouldn't damage the PC for absolutely no reason, because a console port doesn't perform constantly at a certain frame rate...Swiftstrike5Are you kidding me? He overclocked to 3.8Ghz already, so he CLEARLY knows the risks/limitations. If he wants more performance from a game that bottlenecks the CPU then he has to upgrade or overclock. I suggested the later. Still don't see what you're trying to say (you say to overclock, I say it's stupid then you say the TC knows about overclocking...), because your last post shows even more than your first post was just for the sake of posting, you made several such suggestions over the years :/ you don't suggest an overclock for a CPU that is way more powerful after the initial overclock than the game would ever need, what the TC knows about overclocking is irrelevant, knowing about overclocking doesn't mean that he would go even further for nothing.
He obviously wouldn't want to lower settings on the most powerful ATI card, but that's everything he can do, the game has some problems with ATI and it has even more problems for Crossfire and SLI, even drivers are bad for such configurations for both ATI and Nvidia.
Are you kidding me? He overclocked to 3.8Ghz already, so he CLEARLY knows the risks/limitations. If he wants more performance from a game that bottlenecks the CPU then he has to upgrade or overclock. I suggested the later. Still don't see what you're trying to say (you say to overclock, I say it's stupid then you say the TC knows about overclocking...), because your last post shows even more than your first post was just for the sake of posting, you made several such suggestions over the years :/ you don't suggest an overclock for a CPU that is way more powerful after the initial overclock than the game would ever need, what the TC knows about overclocking is irrelevant, knowing about overclocking doesn't mean that he would go even further for nothing.[QUOTE="Swiftstrike5"][QUOTE="DanielDust"]Then you shouldn't suggest things if you don't know what you're talking about, I don't know what kind of sane person, that actually bothered to read the OP, would suggest to overclock a 3.8ghz quad core even further for a game that doesn't even use half the power it already has. This suggestion of yours is as bad is the other guy with the Sector 8 avatar gsomethingclaw, when there's game problems, you should format....but at least that's a suggestion that wouldn't damage the PC for absolutely no reason, because a console port doesn't perform constantly at a certain frame rate...DanielDust
He obviously wouldn't want to lower settings on the most powerful ATI card, but that's everything he can do, the game has some problems with ATI and it has even more problems for Crossfire and SLI, even drivers are bad for such configurations for both ATI and Nvidia.
I'm posting for the sake of posting? Lol, look at my original post. All of those suggestions help CPU performance (except Vsync). You offered one suggestion, which is invalid and then continued to harass my suggestion about overclocking. So, don't overclock... there's plenty of other suggestions that might help in my post. He knows the risks/limitations of his system better than you do, so posting that overclocking is a bad idea is redundant and the way you stated it made you sound all-knowing. He will know if he can go further or not, YOU won't.If you should know anything about this game, it's that the GPU usage is fairly low and that CPU usage is fairly high. Making suggestions to lower graphical settings on one of the most powerful cards on the market is, well, poorly thought out. The proper suggestion would be to find a more compatible driver, but that's most likely not the case.
Exactly guys thats correct. I dont wanna lower the settings because i have such a expensive card...so thats why i wounder i mean the fps drops to 55 and stil very playable but that is not the problem. The fact is that i get worried that it drop to 55 on such a good card. I mean my old 5850 had 55fps so its drops to the same as an older card that whats worries me.adde94when exactly does it drop? just randomly? or when a lot of crap is happening. regardless of your system its going to drop when theres infantry running around and a tank blowing up buildings. that takes a lot out of a graphics card and system. have no fret though, not really a well optimized game. the first time i read your first post, i thought it was 30 fps. so thats my bad. :( lol sorry
How many times do I have to say this? NOTHING IS WRONG WITH YOUR GRAPHICS CARD! The game is just terribly optimized and requires a lot more CPU than GPU. You are getting very good frame rates, why are you complaining?SF_KiLLaMaNOther people with similar specs have constant 60+ fps unless theirs an explosion. He's dropping into the 40's with nothing going on.
im actually going to be buying one of these cards (unless the flagship 6000 series comes out any time soon :)) and id say the reason its at 60% etc. is because the card doesnt need any more power to run the game fully so its not under full load; 55-60 fps is about the limit of smoothness that most people can actually discern in video games anyway. im going to say its just a badly optimized game because if there was something wrong with you're card you would not be running at such high fps anyway (probably like 15-20 fps) just hang on till dice eventually get around to patching the game or new drivers come out for the card
[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]How many times do I have to say this? NOTHING IS WRONG WITH YOUR GRAPHICS CARD! The game is just terribly optimized and requires a lot more CPU than GPU. You are getting very good frame rates, why are you complaining?CranlerOther people with similar specs have constant 60+ fps unless theirs an explosion. He's dropping into the 40's with nothing going on. If you read his original post, he said it drops to 55-60 FPS. which is very good for this game. His graphics card is perfectly fine, BC2 doesn't even use all of my 8800 GTX. BC2 has frame rate drops all of the time, even for no reason. It is normal.
There is no way a phenom 2 at 3.8GHz is bottlenecking that card. his CPU is VERY good. The game is just a bad console port. That's all there is to it.[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]
[QUOTE="Swiftstrike5"]Chances are your 5970 is bottlenecked by the CPU. BC2 has unbalanced loading so CPU will see a much higher load than the GPU, unless your GPU is really weak. Things you can do: -Lower sound quality -Enable Vsync (may help smooth FPS in-game, but it will lower your maximum FPS) -Further overclock your CPU -Try changing "RenderAheadLimit" to 0 or 3 (instead of default 2). This is located in a text document called 'settings.ini' in your documents->BFBC2 foldermorrowindnic
Freaking fanboys..... ITS NOT A CONSOLE PORT! How many damn times do we have to say this?
How am I fanboy? I own the game and play it regularly. I figured it was a console port because it show all of the signs of a console port, being it requires a lot of CPU and little GPU. Frostbite is also originally a console engine.[QUOTE="morrowindnic"]
[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] There is no way a phenom 2 at 3.8GHz is bottlenecking that card. his CPU is VERY good. The game is just a bad console port. That's all there is to it.
SF_KiLLaMaN
Freaking fanboys..... ITS NOT A CONSOLE PORT! How many damn times do we have to say this?
How am I fanboy? I own the game and play it regularly. I figured it was a console port because it show all of the signs of a console port, being it requires a lot of CPU and little GPU. Frostbite is also originally a console engine.Fanboy? Thinking that anything multiplatform that doesn't get 200fps is a port. The PC has MANY features that the console version doesn't have. It's a multiplatform game. The game runs GREAT for me. If you want a console port, go looks at MW2. Now that IS one.
Complaining about getting 55fps and not 60fps is REALLY retarded. Just because you have an awesome card, doesn;t mean it HAS to get 100fps. 55 or 60 fps wont make a difference if its the minimum.
Well..i just wanna know if its normal that is only uses 60% ...if not i trade it in for a new 1 and maybe it uses like 85% :) ?????adde94that is very normal. BC2 doesn't even use 100% of my 8800 GTX even though it runs like ****.
How am I fanboy? I own the game and play it regularly. I figured it was a console port because it show all of the signs of a console port, being it requires a lot of CPU and little GPU. Frostbite is also originally a console engine.[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]
[QUOTE="morrowindnic"]
Freaking fanboys..... ITS NOT A CONSOLE PORT! How many damn times do we have to say this?
morrowindnic
Fanboy? Thinking that anything multiplatform that doesn't get 200fps is a port. The PC has MANY features that the console version doesn't have. It's a multiplatform game. The game runs GREAT for me. If you want a console port, go looks at MW2. Now that IS one.
Complaining about getting 55fps and not 60fps is REALLY retarded. Just because you have an awesome card, doesn;t mean it HAS to get 100fps. 55 or 60 fps wont make a difference if its the minimum.
:D That's funny. Do you even know what console port means? You can add a lot of features and it will still be a console port. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but most of them are poorly optimized. The Frostbite engine was originally made for consoles only. Then they ported the engine over to the PC to make BC2 for PC. BTW, I don't get 200 FPS on ANY game. I play BC2 with 25-35 FPS.There is no way a phenom 2 at 3.8GHz is bottlenecking that card. his CPU is VERY good. The game is just a bad console port. That's all there is to it.[QUOTE="Swiftstrike5"]Chances are your 5970 is bottlenecked by the CPU. BC2 has unbalanced loading so CPU will see a much higher load than the GPU, unless your GPU is really weak. Things you can do: -Lower sound quality -Enable Vsync (may help smooth FPS in-game, but it will lower your maximum FPS) -Further overclock your CPU -Try changing "RenderAheadLimit" to 0 or 3 (instead of default 2). This is located in a text document called 'settings.ini' in your documents->BFBC2 folderSF_KiLLaMaN
yeah No phenom II at 2.6ghz (probably doesn't even need to be this high) or higher would bottleneck any graphics card out period.
[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]How many times do I have to say this? NOTHING IS WRONG WITH YOUR GRAPHICS CARD! The game is just terribly optimized and requires a lot more CPU than GPU. You are getting very good frame rates, why are you complaining?SF_KiLLaMaNOther people with similar specs have constant 60+ fps unless theirs an explosion. He's dropping into the 40's with nothing going on. If you read his original post, he said it drops to 55-60 FPS. which is very good for this game. His graphics card is perfectly fine, BC2 doesn't even use all of my 8800 GTX. BC2 has frame rate drops all of the time, even for no reason. It is normal. I didnt say his graphics card wasnt fine, just that something is causing an issue. I have a 920 at 3ghz with 5870 cf. I play with vsync beacause the game is just too unsmooth with it off. I never drop below 60 unless theirs a huge explosion nearby. If you watch the video he actually dropped to 48fps with nothing going on.
Just 1 thing... do you REALLY need 8x Anti Aliasing on a 1920x1200 resolution? Really? Try lowering your AA.
Other than that, I don't know if it still helps or not, but try forcing DX10.
C:\Users\[Username]\Documents\BFBC2
Open Settings and then chance DXVersion=Auto to DXVersion=10
Also, take a look here : http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/battlefield-bad-company-2_5.html#sect0
5970 is probably the weirdest card ever existed, mind you, you will get lower fps playing in lowest setting than highest setting, that card is designed to play everything at maximum resolution and settings, in most games 5970 benched, gaming at 2560x1680 max setting will get HIGHER fps than you playing at 1080p medium setting, (I'm totally serious)
so try to turn settings even higher to get fps increase, this game don't have alot graphic options, I suggest try AA16xQ or AA32xQ, at that AA, though you won't come close to the 85-120 fps I got with mine EVGA 480SLI 3G DDR5, but a solid 60-70 on your 5970 should be no problem
[QUOTE="morrowindnic"][QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] How am I fanboy? I own the game and play it regularly. I figured it was a console port because it show all of the signs of a console port, being it requires a lot of CPU and little GPU. Frostbite is also originally a console engine.
SF_KiLLaMaN
Fanboy? Thinking that anything multiplatform that doesn't get 200fps is a port. The PC has MANY features that the console version doesn't have. It's a multiplatform game. The game runs GREAT for me. If you want a console port, go looks at MW2. Now that IS one.
Complaining about getting 55fps and not 60fps is REALLY retarded. Just because you have an awesome card, doesn;t mean it HAS to get 100fps. 55 or 60 fps wont make a difference if its the minimum.
:D That's funny. Do you even know what console port means? You can add a lot of features and it will still be a console port. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but most of them are poorly optimized. The Frostbite engine was originally made for consoles only. Then they ported the engine over to the PC to make BC2 for PC. BTW, I don't get 200 FPS on ANY game. I play BC2 with 25-35 FPS.I get 50-60fps in BC2 runs good for me.
The game was design with both consoles and PC in mind. A port is just that a port. The exact same game on multiple systems, but design for a certain system. BC2 is not the same on PC. It is better, and runs good.
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