Bad news about Modern Warfare 2

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="gameguy6700"]

The multiplayer is awesome. Granted it definitely has its problems (a few controversial/broken perks, lag, and perhaps the worst spawn system ever seen in a multiplayer game) but it's extremely fast paced and the addition of levels, rewards, and achievements makes it extremely addictive. And of course there's all the perks, weapons, and weapon mods which allow you to fine tune a class that best matches your playing style. Considering the immense popularity of COD4's online multiplayer I think most people would beg to differ on your opinion that COD4 is merely average.

Also, complaining about the single player in COD4 is kind of pointless considering that few people bought it for the single player experience.

mirgamer

It wasn't clear if he died, the medics were resuscitating him. And he was a captain in WW2, he's obviously immortal.

Baranga

He is dead. People need to stop denying it.

[QUOTE="Ninja_Dog"][QUOTE="Swiftstrike5"]

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I'll try to explain it to you.

Everyone knows CoD has linear gameplay.

Everyone knows Starcraft has bad graphics, but good gameplay.

Picking on the fact that CoD is linear and not something else is like picking on Starcraft because it has poor graphics. You know what you're getting into.

I'm sorry I facepalmed. I should have anticipated the typical starcraft fanboy response to graphics.

And the story was typical cliche nonsense.. Typical bad guys, Arabic nationalists and Russian extremists.. Get a hold of a nuclear weapon.. Damn man that was so original I havn't seen something like that in a Tom Clancy movie, game or book.. Oh wait I have.

sSubZerOo

You don't need to be original to make a delicious hamburger.

Everyone who says Captain Price is dead is a communist:cry:

If they get rid of the infinite enemies, thats a big improvement. But my issue was COD4 was the online. It was laggy, and i hated the perks. I don't want perks. remove those and i'm happy

JumpingMirrior

i hope in MW 2 it will have a longer story line

Yay for no more cheap spawning enemies!

I wonder if this means they will be capable of more than run, shoot and die?

Doubt they will have improved much else engine-wise though.

I wish they'd come up with some new locales other than the Middle-East and Russia. Those places are so worn out in modern war games.

I wish they'd come up with some new locales other than the Middle-East and Russia. Those places are so worn out in modern war games.

turaaggeli

Modern Warfare 2 takes players to the snow-capped peaks of Russian mountains, across the deserts of Afghanistan and into the streets of Rio de Janeiro, and introduces a new co-operative Special Forces mode to back up the single-player campaign.

"The gameplay is wide open and has a lot of variety," Infinity Ward president Jason West told Game Informer. "In terms of the story... well, any good story is on rails." The game is set against the backdrop of continuing Russian instability, with a new baddy, Makarov, using Zakhaev's demise as justification for naughtiness.

Pictured: the antagonist.

Other missions include hunting down an arms dealer in Rio, which evolves into a running gunfight with militia among fleeing civilians

Special Forces mode, meanwhile, is "in the spirit of Mile High Club", according to West, who told Game Informer that it will use tricky scenarios that didn't make it into the single-player game and thus have no relationship with the difficulty curve.

"[Co-op] made a lot more sense here," West said, explaining that the levels were designed with two players in mind. Co-op tweaks include an on-screen arrow pointing to the other player, and a mini-map highlighting your relative locations.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/modern-warfare-2-blown-wide-open

[QUOTE="mirgamer"][QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] cod4 was average, not great, not bad. they missed on the mechanics and missed on the storyline. hell, they even missed on the most of the gameplay.sSubZerOo

I like Open World and choices like the next gamer, but I too also revere the fantastic cinematic design of the Cod series by Infinity Ward.

Terrorists AGAIN!? infinity ward really has no creativity, how about something new, how about country vs country instead, these scenarios re always more interesting than special forces vs terrorists (rainbow six has been doing this for years, get your own idea's, infinity ward)

And another 6 hour campaign? infinity ward needs to learn what VALUE for money is, it really is disgusting when a get more playing time from a game i got for £15 then one i bought for £40.

Terrorists AGAIN!? infinity ward really has no creativity, how about something new, how about country vs country instead, these scenarios re always more interesting than special forces vs terrorists (rainbow six has been doing this for years, get your own idea's, infinity ward)

And another 6 hour campaign? infinity ward needs to learn what VALUE for money is, it really is disgusting when a get more playing time from a game i got for £15 then one i bought for £40.

Artosa

Americans love terrorists, and the multiplayer is supposed to offer the value.

Apart from the multiplayer is a repetitive gimmick, people only care about levelling up, awful spawn systems and dumbed down gameplay, activision and infinity ward are just milking this series.

COD1 was a great game(in my opinion best in the series) but it is about time this series is put to rest, it is the same every year.

Terrorists AGAIN!? infinity ward really has no creativity, how about something new, how about country vs country instead, these scenarios re always more interesting than special forces vs terrorists (rainbow six has been doing this for years, get your own idea's, infinity ward)

And another 6 hour campaign? infinity ward needs to learn what VALUE for money is, it really is disgusting when a get more playing time from a game i got for £15 then one i bought for £40.

Artosa

IF it is on consoles it will be a bad game like cod4 was.Dr_Brocoli

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

And the story was typical cliche nonsense.. Typical bad guys, Arabic nationalists and Russian extremists.. Get a hold of a nuclear weapon.. Damn man that was so original I havn't seen something like that in a Tom Clancy movie, game or book.. Oh wait I have.

You don't need to be original to make a delicious hamburger.

Everyone who says Captain Price is dead is a communist:cry:

Click for something cool.

The article says the levels are huge now and more interactive.

COD1 was a great game(in my opinion best in the series) but it is about time this series is put to rest, it is the same every year.

Artosa

yep whats this now the 7th installment (inc UO) and nothings really changed since the 1st. theyll never let their cash cow die though

Considering the various console spin-offs, this is the bazillionth game.

COD4 and 5 are a far cry from the first two. They are a lot more cinematic, and that's why we like them. It's unfair to say they're basically the same game, it's like saying Prey is identical to Quake 4. There are obvious similarities, but the show is different enough.

Click for something cool.

The article says the levels are huge now and more interactive.

Baranga

Thanks for the scans SuperMario. Despite my opinion that CoD4 is a waste of money, I'm still going to give this game a shot with the demo (please let there be a demo).

Edit: I hate how they keep bragging about their 12 million sales. It reminds me of Blizzard with WoW. Just because a game sells well doesn't mean it's good. >.

Thanks for the scans SuperMario. Despite my opinion that CoD4 is a waste of money, I'm still going to give this game a shot with the demo (please let there be a demo).

Edit: I hate how they keep bragging about their 12 million sales. It reminds me of Blizzard with WoW. Just because a game sells well doesn't mean it's good. >.

Ninja_Dog

It's a fun game with an awesome atmosphere, it's not suppose to be a simulator, it's not the next Crytek game, it doesn't have a physics engine to brag with in every level after every minute, it doesn't have an open world, etc, it's not even considered as a single player game anymore, the sp is just a bonus now and this time it looks like it'll be awesome (don't know why it looks so much like Double Agent) but the multiplayer is where it's at. If any of you expect that from COD then I don't know what's in your head, it's clear that CoD will never be what you want if you don't appreciate its formula.

[QUOTE="Ninja_Dog"]

Thanks for the scans SuperMario. Despite my opinion that CoD4 is a waste of money, I'm still going to give this game a shot with the demo (please let there be a demo).

Edit: I hate how they keep bragging about their 12 million sales. It reminds me of Blizzard with WoW. Just because a game sells well doesn't mean it's good. >.

DanielDust

What the hell is this, common sense on Gamespot?!

People always complain... If it went all sandbox-y, people would *female dog* for months, regardless of the thousands of posts that ask COD to be completely the opposite of what it is today.

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

Click for something cool.

The article says the levels are huge now and more interactive.

OoSuperMarioO

yeah because we havent been to any of those places in any games before.

riot sheilds were in vegas, etc

movable turrets were in cod1, cod2, and cod3

ohhh 60 fps! riveting!

deffo game of the year!!

I really loved COD 4, it looked realistic and tense, the action was allways there. And the story? well some may dissagree, it was new for me too see a story where americans lost something (Iam not american, my apologies if I insult anyone who is). And yes the physics where missing, but I play videogames too escape reality not too get more involved. And I must say that I really look forward too Modern Warfare 2, it looks epic.

[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

Click for something cool.

The article says the levels are huge now and more interactive.

Artosa

yeah because we havent been to any of those places in any games before.

riot sheilds were in vegas, etc

movable turrets were in cod1, cod2, and cod3

ohhh 60 fps! riveting!

deffo game of the year!!

Ohhh I shot people in Wolfenstein 3D, I don't need to buy another FPS ever!

I mean seriously, you're not even trying.

I don't care that riot shields were in Vegas. Now they're in COD too and I'm happy.

[QUOTE="Ninja_Dog"]

Thanks for the scans SuperMario. Despite my opinion that CoD4 is a waste of money, I'm still going to give this game a shot with the demo (please let there be a demo).

Edit: I hate how they keep bragging about their 12 million sales. It reminds me of Blizzard with WoW. Just because a game sells well doesn't mean it's good. >.

DanielDust

It's a fun game with an awesome atmosphere, it's not suppose to be a simulator, it's not the next Crytek game, it doesn't have a physics engine to brag with in every level after every minute, it doesn't have an open world, etc, it's not even considered as a single player game anymore, the sp is just a bonus now and this time it looks like it'll be awesome (don't know why it looks so much like Double Agent) but the multiplayer is where it's at. If any of you expect that from COD then I don't know what's in your head, it's clear that CoD will never be what you want if you don't appreciate its formula.

[QUOTE="Artosa"]

[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]Easily Game of the year. In the GI magazine they mention visiting locales such as Brazil, Afghanistan in addition to Russia.There will be snow mobiles, Mountains, climbing ice walls ect. Game will also run at 60 frames per sec with more detail then COD 4. Riot shields, movable turrets and the list just goes on, it's marvelous!

Baranga

yeah because we havent been to any of those places in any games before.

riot sheilds were in vegas, etc

movable turrets were in cod1, cod2, and cod3

ohhh 60 fps! riveting!

deffo game of the year!!

Ohhh I shot people in Wolfenstein 3D, I don't need to buy another FPS ever!

I mean seriously, you're not even trying.

I don't care that riot shields were in Vegas. Now they're in COD too and I'm happy.

When did i say i was trying?

Oh and wolfenstein was a new thing when it was released, call of duty is just rehash after rehash, with it being slightly dumbed down every sequal.

seriouly cod 80 will probably be released when im a pensioner, it really is just a cash cow series now with no new ideas, the great ideas now come from indie developers and modders.

the great ideas now come from indie developers and modders.Artosa

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

[QUOTE="Artosa"]

yeah because we havent been to any of those places in any games before.

riot sheilds were in vegas, etc

movable turrets were in cod1, cod2, and cod3

ohhh 60 fps! riveting!

deffo game of the year!!

Artosa

Ohhh I shot people in Wolfenstein 3D, I don't need to buy another FPS ever!

I mean seriously, you're not even trying.

I don't care that riot shields were in Vegas. Now they're in COD too and I'm happy.

When did i say i was trying?

Oh and wolfenstein was a new thing when it was released, call of duty is just rehash after rehash, with it being slightly dumbed down every sequal.

seriouly cod 80 will probably be released when im a pensioner, it really is just a cash cow series now with no new ideas, the great ideas now come from indie developers and modders.

What separates a man from a parasite?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbI7gxxbYpo

Some of those pictures from the magazine looks pretty sweet. Is that in-game? I wouldn't be surprised.

Now that your Brain is in awe I will now harvest it...

lol

[QUOTE="Ninja_Dog"][QUOTE="Swiftstrike5"]

I'll try to explain it to you.

Everyone knows CoD has linear gameplay.

Everyone knows Starcraft has bad graphics, but good gameplay.

Picking on the fact that CoD is linear and not something else is like picking on Starcraft because it has poor graphics. You know what you're getting into.

I'm sorry I facepalmed. I should have anticipated the typical starcraft fanboy response to graphics.

OoSuperMarioO

seriously, that was off topic

that was directed at mario btw

I dont think removing a charactercauses any drastic changes in the game

SPOILER

broken_bass_bin

You are missing the point. He was in the WWII CoD games...what, did you really believe he fought in WWII and was still alive?

[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]

[QUOTE="Ninja_Dog"] Linear gameplay is a design choice. It's valid to complain about a design choice. Poor graphics in Starcraft is an 11 year old technology limitation. Complaining about that is invalid. And I'm no Starcraft (or RTS) fan FYI.Swiftstrike5

Except the linear presentation it had was acceptable in the first installment during 2000.. I have already stated earlier I AM FINE WITH LINEAR GAMES.. Get this through your skull, its just CoD4 takes this to the extreme.. With outdated mechanics.. Where they throw endless amounts of enemies at you during extrmeely narrow regions, where your cut off from apparent other areas due to a 2 foot picket fence.. And the stupid AI specifically targets you 80% of the time.. What narrow places you had, nothing you could interact with, barrels didn't even knock over.. and you COULDN'T EVEN OPEN DOORS you had to get your team mates to do it.. Its at best trying to be a interactive movie with its good presentation.. The only problem is games such as Bioshock rival it, (as well as being some what linear but gave you choices).. I don't know about you guys but the fact that the enemies were dumb as bricks, and they flooded you with it looks like half the population of Russia and the Middle East.. It just got completely boring in the end. There were some cool scenes, but imo it is a superbly over-rated game.. I at least have some expectations with the game, such as having mildly intelligent AI for having such narrow areas.. Having the environment actually interactiable.. Having realistic barriers.. I don't care if its a locked door, its far more enjoyable knowing I can't go through locked doors, than finding out that a 2 foot tall wooden fence is stopping me from going any where..

Bring back Sgt Moody from Call of Duty 1. He was a total dude!

[QUOTE="Swiftstrike5"][QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]For the record, don't go into a Blizzard game expecting high end graphics, to do so will only disappoint you.

sSubZerOo

Except the linear presentation it had was acceptable in the first installment during 2000.. I have already stated earlier I AM FINE WITH LINEAR GAMES.. Get this through your skull, its just CoD4 takes this to the extreme.. With outdated mechanics.. Where they throw endless amounts of enemies at you during extrmeely narrow regions, where your cut off from apparent other areas due to a 2 foot picket fence.. And the stupid AI specifically targets you 80% of the time.. What narrow places you had, nothing you could interact with, barrels didn't even knock over.. and you COULDN'T EVEN OPEN DOORS you had to get your team mates to do it.. Its at best trying to be a interactive movie with its good presentation.. The only problem is games such as Bioshock rival it, (as well as being some what linear but gave you choices).. I don't know about you guys but the fact that the enemies were dumb as bricks, and they flooded you with it looks like half the population of Russia and the Middle East.. It just got completely boring in the end. There were some cool scenes, but imo it is a superbly over-rated game.. I at least have some expectations with the game, such as having mildly intelligent AI for having such narrow areas.. Having the environment actually interactiable.. Having realistic barriers.. I don't care if its a locked door, its far more enjoyable knowing I can't go through locked doors, than finding out that a 2 foot tall wooden fence is stopping me from going any where..

Then don't buy it!

Crying up a storm isn't going to change the CoD series. You act like you've never seen a CoD game before.

CoD4 sold 10million+ copies. You're asking them to fix something that isn't broken.