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[QUOTE="mitu123"]I've been hearing that some users are getting far worse FPS with the latest driver and decided to revert back to the previous. Are these the same drivers that were released for the beta version ? No, new drivers.[QUOTE="GD1551"]
Nvidia's garbage drivers is forcing me to use older ones. I should be fine though if those benchies are any indication. Down with the shadows and AA up with the FPS.
Chris_53
CPU benchmarks released, updated in first post. ATI 11.10 preview drivers increase FPS by as much as 2.
[QUOTE="wolverine_97"]Are there any CPU benchmarks? I want to know how a X4 955 and a 6850 will perform.wis3boi
GPU bottleneck. No its not that. Hyperthreading on intel cpu's like the 2600k with BF3 is causing them to underperform[QUOTE="kraken2109"]
My phenom beats an i7 2600k? :shock:
Gambler_3
[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]GPU bottleneck. nope, the game actually fully utilizes all cores you have for it, and hyperthreading is useless in a game, hence the Phenom X6s rise up high I meant my overclocked 955 actually, the top cpu on that list is only quad core.[QUOTE="kraken2109"]
My phenom beats an i7 2600k? :shock:
wis3boi
GPU bottleneck.[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]
[QUOTE="kraken2109"]
My phenom beats an i7 2600k? :shock:
NailedGR
if it were a GPU bottleneck all the CPUs would be performing EXACTLY the same, which they aren't.
Yes every chipset works exactly the same, every benchmark run gives exactly the same result all the time and there is no such thing as the average margin of benchmarking error.GPU bottleneck. No its not that. Hyperthreading on intel cpu's like the 2600k with BF3 is causing them to underperform2500k has no hyperthreading and it's also lower on the chart.[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]
[QUOTE="kraken2109"]
My phenom beats an i7 2600k? :shock:
04dcarraher
A 2.6 Ghz i7 920 beats a 3.3 Ghz 2500k by 1FPS, if that doesnt tell you the differences are based on other things then I dont know what does. You DONOT get "exactly" the same results with a GPU bottleneck, when CPU's running at vastly different speeds and having different architectures are running within 1-2 FPS of each other then obviously it's a GPU bottleneck. Now why even that 1-2 FPS difference exists at all can be for many reasons, we cannot be sure exactly why but logically we know it's not anything to do with the CPU itself.
The world didn't end because an older CPUedged outa current CPU, it's not a big deal...They're all performing well.
The problem is it is possible if you re-run those benchmarks that the results could be reversed so going by 1-2 FPS difference and saying X "beat" Y is just illogical. We see no consistency in that CPU chart so it cannot be relied on, whereas the GPU chart seems to maintain the hierarchy of GPU's the way it is supposed to be so it can be relied on.The world didn't end because an older CPUedged outa current CPU, it's not a big deal...They're all performing well.
kaitanuvax
A 2.6 Ghz i7 920 beats a 3.3 Ghz 2500k by 1FPS, if that doesnt tell you the differences are based on other things then I dont know what does. You DONOT get "exactly" the same results with a GPU bottleneck, when CPU's running at vastly different speeds and having different architectures are running within 1-2 FPS of each other then obviously it's a GPU bottleneck. Now why even that 1-2 FPS difference exists at all can be for many reasons, we cannot be sure exactly why but logically we know it's not anything to do with the CPU itself.
Gambler_3
Then it is not a GPU bottleneck smart guy.
[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]
A 2.6 Ghz i7 920 beats a 3.3 Ghz 2500k by 1FPS, if that doesnt tell you the differences are based on other things then I dont know what does. You DONOT get "exactly" the same results with a GPU bottleneck, when CPU's running at vastly different speeds and having different architectures are running within 1-2 FPS of each other then obviously it's a GPU bottleneck. Now why even that 1-2 FPS difference exists at all can be for many reasons, we cannot be sure exactly why but logically we know it's not anything to do with the CPU itself.
NailedGR
Then it is not a GPU bottleneck smart guy.
It is or else sandy bridge would be much faster than everything else. You have a false perception of what a bottleneck is "OMG it is teh 1FPS faster cant be a bottleneck".Run the game with the same CPU's at 10x7 with DX9 low settings and it would get pretty clear how much of a bottleneck it was.
[QUOTE="NailedGR"]
[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]
A 2.6 Ghz i7 920 beats a 3.3 Ghz 2500k by 1FPS, if that doesnt tell you the differences are based on other things then I dont know what does. You DONOT get "exactly" the same results with a GPU bottleneck, when CPU's running at vastly different speeds and having different architectures are running within 1-2 FPS of each other then obviously it's a GPU bottleneck. Now why even that 1-2 FPS difference exists at all can be for many reasons, we cannot be sure exactly why but logically we know it's not anything to do with the CPU itself.
Gambler_3
Then it is not a GPU bottleneck smart guy.
It is or else sandy bridge would be much faster than everything else. You have a false perception of what a bottleneck is "OMG it is teh 1FPS faster cant be a bottleneck".Run the game with the same CPU's at 10x7 with DX9 low settings and it would get pretty clear how much of a bottleneck it was.
bottleneck literally means that is slows everything down to the same speed, I have seen times when this is true and you literally get exactly the same performance when there is a bottleneck.
I like how when Intel gives better performance its: "OMG TEN PERCENT FASTER HOLY COW HAHAHAHAHAHAH!"
And then when AMD gives better performance its: "10% is clearly a GPU bottleneck" and "10% is clearly within the margin of error"
awesome
[QUOTE="superclocked"]Looks like I'm going to get a second 2gb 560 Ti afterall, because 4xAA makes all the difference in the world when you only sit about a foot away from a 24" screen...Chris_53Your spending money on a second GPU, just for antialiasing ? Probably worth it for the performance as well.
I like how when Intel gives better performance its: "OMG TEN PERCENT FASTER HOLY COW HAHAHAHAHAHAH!"
And then when AMD gives better performance its: "10% is clearly a GPU bottleneck" and "10% is clearly within the margin of error"
awesome
GummiRaccoon
i find it pretty funny
Your spending money on a second GPU, just for antialiasing ? Probably worth it for the performance as well.Yeah, from what i've seen, 2x of these should keep me at 60fps most of the time...[QUOTE="Chris_53"][QUOTE="superclocked"]Looks like I'm going to get a second 2gb 560 Ti afterall, because 4xAA makes all the difference in the world when you only sit about a foot away from a 24" screen...mitu123
[QUOTE="mitu123"]Probably worth it for the performance as well.Yeah, from what i've seen, 2x of these should keep me at 60fps most of the time... I wouldn't be surprised if it were all the time.[QUOTE="Chris_53"] Your spending money on a second GPU, just for antialiasing ? superclocked
70+ FPS with every single setting turned to on or max at 1080p. woooo hooo. I thought i would have to upgrade my PC, but fortunately i can now wait another year and save my money.
Fizzman
You have a 4.1ghz i7 and a pair of GTX 480's in SLI. You thought you would "have to upgrade?" :?
[QUOTE="Fizzman"]
70+ FPS with every single setting turned to on or max at 1080p. woooo hooo. I thought i would have to upgrade my PC, but fortunately i can now wait another year and save my money.
hartsickdiscipl
You have a 4.1ghz i7 and a pair of GTX 480's in SLI. You thought you would "have to upgrade?" :?
To be fair, Dice did say you needed SLI'd 580's to max it out.
[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]
[QUOTE="Fizzman"]
70+ FPS with every single setting turned to on or max at 1080p. woooo hooo. I thought i would have to upgrade my PC, but fortunately i can now wait another year and save my money.
Fizzman
You have a 4.1ghz i7 and a pair of GTX 480's in SLI. You thought you would "have to upgrade?" :?
To be fair, Dice did say you needed SLI'd 580's to max it out.
You had to know they were full of it.
[QUOTE="superclocked"]Looks like I'm going to get a second 2gb 560 Ti afterall, because 4xAA makes all the difference in the world when you only sit about a foot away from a 24" screen...Chris_53Your spending money on a second GPU, just for antialiasing ? Dont see how it's much different than people who buy a second card for higher resolution. He cant live without AA and I can totally understand that as I myself wish I could play every single game at 4xAA.
[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]
[QUOTE="Fizzman"]
70+ FPS with every single setting turned to on or max at 1080p. woooo hooo. I thought i would have to upgrade my PC, but fortunately i can now wait another year and save my money.
Fizzman
You have a 4.1ghz i7 and a pair of GTX 480's in SLI. You thought you would "have to upgrade?" :?
To be fair, Dice did say you needed SLI'd 580's to max it out.
Maybe to them maxed out is everything max at 120 FPS?
[QUOTE="Fizzman"]
[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]
You have a 4.1ghz i7 and a pair of GTX 480's in SLI. You thought you would "have to upgrade?" :?
GummiRaccoon
To be fair, Dice did say you needed SLI'd 580's to max it out.
Maybe to them maxed out is everything max at 120 FPS?
yeah for 3D Graphic !Max means 4xAA dont know why people forget that, you dont need AA fine and all but you arent maxing it if you cant play at 4xAA.
From the 1080p chart it's pretty clear that even a GTX 580 cannot max out BF3. 38 average and 33 minimum is not really enough for such a fast paced FPS.
The difference is only 5% in the CPU chart we were talking about.I like how when Intel gives better performance its: "OMG TEN PERCENT FASTER HOLY COW HAHAHAHAHAHAH!"
And then when AMD gives better performance its: "10% is clearly a GPU bottleneck" and "10% is clearly within the margin of error"
awesome
GummiRaccoon
When intel takes the lead it's generally much more then that.
Max means 4xAA dont know why people forget that, you dont need AA fine and all but you arent maxing it if you cant play at 4xAA.
From the 1080p chart it's pretty clear that even a GTX 580 cannot max out BF3. 38 average and 33 minimum is not really enough for such a fast paced FPS.
Gambler_3
4x is not max.
Max means most.
And there is more than 4x AA.
Which means it cannot be most if there are things that are greater than it.
Therefore not max.
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