Best RPG ever?

I got the idea from a SW thread, I think these are pretty fair choices.

Fallout 2!dakan45

out of these, Morrowind by far

Morrowind. I am still playing BG2, and altho its good I doubt it will beat out Morrowind.

Morrowind IMO

Planescape for story and Fallout 1 and 2 for gameplay.

None of those, Fallout 3 is the best RPG..

None of those, Fallout 3 is the best RPG..

hydr0_32

None of those, Fallout 3 is the best RPG..

hydr0_32

Out of that list of great games, I would say that planescape torment edges it out for me.

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None of those, Fallout 3 is the best RPG..

DasVolks

i'll have to go with bg 2 since i didn't really like or even play some of the other ones on the list but if i can choose any rpg it'd be the jrpg tales of vesperia great story great characters

None of those, Fallout 3 is the best RPG..

hydr0_32

I agree, although this forum is incredibly biased against Fallout 3 and Oblivion as you can see.

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None of those, Fallout 3 is the best RPG..

mastershakez

I agree, although this forum is incredibly biased against Fallout 3 and Oblivion as you can see.

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None of those, Fallout 3 is the best RPG..

mastershakez

I agree, although this forum is incredibly biased against Fallout 3 and Oblivion as you can see.

Biased? well, whatever, I still think Fallout 3 sucked. I hated it.

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None of those, Fallout 3 is the best RPG..

mastershakez

I agree, although this forum is incredibly biased against Fallout 3 and Oblivion as you can see.

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None of those, Fallout 3 is the best RPG..

DasVolks

I agree, although this forum is incredibly biased against Fallout 3 and Oblivion as you can see.

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I agree, although this forum is incredibly biased against Fallout 3 and Oblivion as you can see.

dakan45

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None of those, Fallout 3 is the best RPG..

GhoX

I agree, although this forum is incredibly biased against Fallout 3 and Oblivion as you can see.

The games are not epic, it's just nostalgia for the game. The games WERE epic, just as Fallout 3 is epic today(obviously not to most of the people who played 1&2). Fallout 3 is an amazing game. This is my opinion, but it is also shown to be true based on professional reviews and sales. If anything can say what games are great and what aren't, that is clearly it.

For example, I think GTA4 was an insulting pile of crap, but I wouldn't argue that it wasn't a good game with someone who liked it. Because clearly, it was a popular game that got amazing reviews. It would just be ignorant of me to tell someone who liked it that the game is horrible.

You should have added Dragon Age =0

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I agree, although this forum is incredibly biased against Fallout 3 and Oblivion as you can see.

dakan45

Well the thing that ruined it big time was the terrible combat system. Gun play was terrible. VATs system was stupid.

The atrocious combat system in that game made it unplayable. I spent about a week on the game, with some long sessions in there too.

Uninstalled the game and never looked back.

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[QUOTE="DasVolks"] Biased? Give me a break...You meant truthful. Fallout 3 sucked...and Oblivion didn't live up to the title of Elder Scrolls IV.

DasVolks

Well the thing that ruined it big time was the terrible combat system. Gun play was terrible. VATs system was stupid.

The atrocious combat system in that game made it unplayable. I spent about a week on the game, with some long sessions in there too.

Uninstalled the game and never looked back.

Man, those are all great games. But some are missing, like KOTOR.

My vote went to Baldurs Gate 2

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[QUOTE="dakan45"] Fallout 3 most definitely did not suck, why it the hell it sucked? Infact it was an improvement over oblivion in rpg terms!

tony2077ca

Well the thing that ruined it big time was the terrible combat system. Gun play was terrible. VATs system was stupid.

The atrocious combat system in that game made it unplayable. I spent about a week on the game, with some long sessions in there too.

Uninstalled the game and never looked back.

Sorry boss, used my friend's copy to install it.

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Well the thing that ruined it big time was the terrible combat system. Gun play was terrible. VATs system was stupid.

The atrocious combat system in that game made it unplayable. I spent about a week on the game, with some long sessions in there too.

Uninstalled the game and never looked back.

DasVolks

Sorry boss, used my friend's copy to install it.

None of those, Fallout 3 is the best RPG..

hydr0_32

Agreed.

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I agree, although this forum is incredibly biased against Fallout 3 and Oblivion as you can see.

mastershakez

The games are not epic, it's just nostalgia for the game. The games WERE epic, just as Fallout 3 is epic today(obviously not to most of the people who played 1&2). Fallout 3 is an amazing game. This is my opinion, but it is also shown to be true based on professional reviews and sales. If anything can say what games are great and what aren't, that is clearly it.

So still awesome writing(planescape torment) is just nostalgia when compared with the atrocious written dialog and story in oblivion/fallout3? Riiiight..

Where is Mass Effect?JigglyWiggly_

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None of those, Fallout 3 is my first RPG..

BORN_TO_HATE

So true for so much people.

flame me all you want but im really enjoying dragon age.. to the point that I might call it my personal fav :)

Um? Diablo II...

The Witcher and/or KoTOR.

Deus Ex 1biggest_loser

Yup, it is confirmed, the hate for oblivion and dragon age cannot be hidden. The reason i say it cannot be hidden is because someone said it sucked. I bet everyone would quote that user if i did not say "it most definetly did not suck, it was an improvement over oblivion" and after that people quote me just to say that that does not mean anything and blah, blah, blah!!! Who gives a damn? Point was made, it did NOT suck. I did not said its the best rpg ever, i just said it did not suck. Why we got to lower that too? But anyway i really liked vats, it was a cool idea. I really despise the fact that a user "fixed" someones post in order to say its the first rpg he ever played. I played fallout 1 and 2 before fallout 3 and i do like fallout 2 more but i think fallout 3 comes second. Also i played morrowind and i thought it was pretty meh after that i played oblivion and i loved it!! What you got to say about that? "Nothing, you just like dumbed down games." Really? if that is true why i did not like mass effect and fable but i loved kotor, dragon age and the witcher?dakan45

Dakan you of all people should realize that consistency is not a strong point on these forums. "I hate this game but I love this game" when the difference is so minimal as to be ridiculous to contemplate. I'm not saying there is no difference just not differences enough to make such a polarizing opinion. An example would be Morrowind and Oblivion. I liked both games and didn't compare one with the other, I just enjoyed them.

There are as many definitions as to what makes a RPG as there are RPGs. So if the game doesn't meet that definition of RPG then it isn't a RPG. Or it isn't a good RPG. This is the way of things with people. I personally have enjoyed almost all the games that are listed and mentioned here except Fallout 1 and Bloodlines because I've never played them and Fallout 2 because I didn't like the atmosphere and feeling of the game. But I wont say it sucked because it didn't. I'm for letting a thousand candles light the way, all with their own and unique beauty.