biggest flop in gaming this year

Dragon Age 2. I don't get why you kids hate on Crysis 2 for going multiplatform, it gets more money this way and doesn't necessarily mean the PC version will be any less than if it were a PC exclusive, rather it means the console versions are scaled way down and run at sub 720p native with framerate issues. And then on the same note you guys jump all over the BF3 bandwagon despite its engine starting out on BC1 which was a console exclusive, it doesn't make sense.

Dragon Age 2. I don't get why you kids hate on Crysis 2 for going multiplatform, it gets more money this way and doesn't necessarily mean the PC version will be any less than if it were a PC exclusive, rather it means the console versions are scaled way down and run at sub 720p native with framerate issues. And then on the same note you guys jump all over the BF3 bandwagon despite its engine starting out on BC1 which was a console exclusive, it doesn't make sense.

Zubinen

Dragon Age 2. I don't get why you kids hate on Crysis 2 for going multiplatform, it gets more money this way and doesn't necessarily mean the PC version will be any less than if it were a PC exclusive, rather it means the console versions are scaled way down and run at sub 720p native with framerate issues. And then on the same note you guys jump all over the BF3 bandwagon despite its engine starting out on BC1 which was a console exclusive, it doesn't make sense.

Zubinen

sorry crysis 1 and 2 have nothing in common besides the genre, crysis 1 awesome, crysis 2 bad, i dont even care about it being mutiplatform they just ruined it.

Dragon Age 2. Nothing about that game felt epic. Story was weak, never left Kirkwall, un interesting characters compared to the first one, earning a romance was too easy, no main villian, etc. It as if EA said to bioware "hey some of the call of duty fans liked how mass effect 2 was more of a shooter, so you have less then a year to make a dragon age game that will appeal to these kinds of people". I never enjoyed uninstalling a game as much as I did Dragon Age 2. Dragon Age 2 is so bad I uninstalled that over Final Fantasy XIV lol.

Brink. Crysis and DA2 were awesome and both reviewed/sold well, dont know why people bash them.

sorry crysis 1 and 2 have nothing in common besides the genre, crysis 1 awesome, crysis 2 bad, i dont even care about it being mutiplatform they just ruined it.Krelian-co

Brink, easily.

DA2 for me

no flops this year imho , just some games that were ..er...less good.

btw. No Aliens Colonial marines this year was a flop for me ...sort of

Crysis 2 is far superior to Crysis 1 in terms of visauls, gunplay/gameplay, fluff/plot/atmosphere, sound/art direction, and so on.

Zubinen

Crysis 2 actually looks worse than Crysis 1, the gameplay is infinitely inferior (the suit is just out of place in Crysis 2 while it melded perfectly with Crysis 1's environments), the atmosphere was pitiful...

Were you drunk when you played it or something?

Brink, which is a great game. It didn't sell well and reviewers thought it's too hard and complicated - I remember one which specifically complained about having to complete objectives.

Although I do respect other people's opinion, to all the people saying DA2 was a flop, that's your own personal opinon. Was DA2 flawed? Yes it was, but that's not to say I didn't enjoy it. I still thought it was a great game, and I don't regret my purchase. And the fact that it's NOT A FLOP. To some people's opinion, yes they didn't like it, but Dead Space 2, Dragon Age 2, and Crysis 2 all sold over 2 million units. That's not a flop, those are some very good numbers. Gamerperson33

[QUOTE="Gamerperson33"]Although I do respect other people's opinion, to all the people saying DA2 was a flop, that's your own personal opinon. Was DA2 flawed? Yes it was, but that's not to say I didn't enjoy it. I still thought it was a great game, and I don't regret my purchase. And the fact that it's NOT A FLOP. To some people's opinion, yes they didn't like it, but Dead Space 2, Dragon Age 2, and Crysis 2 all sold over 2 million units. That's not a flop, those are some very good numbers. mirgamer

[QUOTE="Zubinen"]Crysis 2 is far superior to Crysis 1 in terms of visauls, gunplay/gameplay, fluff/plot/atmosphere, sound/art direction, and so on.

N30F3N1X

Crysis 2 actually looks worse than Crysis 1, the gameplay is infinitely inferior (the suit is just out of place in Crysis 2 while it melded perfectly with Crysis 1's environments), the atmosphere was pitiful...

Were you drunk when you played it or something?

Crysis 2 looks far better than Crysis with DX11.

Don't even argue...

[QUOTE="mirgamer"][QUOTE="Gamerperson33"]Although I do respect other people's opinion, to all the people saying DA2 was a flop, that's your own personal opinon. Was DA2 flawed? Yes it was, but that's not to say I didn't enjoy it. I still thought it was a great game, and I don't regret my purchase. And the fact that it's NOT A FLOP. To some people's opinion, yes they didn't like it, but Dead Space 2, Dragon Age 2, and Crysis 2 all sold over 2 million units. That's not a flop, those are some very good numbers. DanielDust

Crysis 2 looks far better than Crysis with DX11.

Don't even argue...

Arthur96

"Argue"? The graphics were one of the few complaints Crytek listened to :|

Dragon Age 2 for sure. They took an awesome PC experience and dumbed it down to the lowest common denominator. They completely removed the unique PC UI and controls and went for a quick cash grab and rushed a boring, tedious, and extremely disapointing followup to one of my favorite games this generation.

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[QUOTE="Zubinen"]Crysis 2 is far superior to Crysis 1 in terms of visauls, gunplay/gameplay, fluff/plot/atmosphere, sound/art direction, and so on.

Arthur96

Crysis 2 actually looks worse than Crysis 1, the gameplay is infinitely inferior (the suit is just out of place in Crysis 2 while it melded perfectly with Crysis 1's environments), the atmosphere was pitiful...

Were you drunk when you played it or something?

Crysis 2 looks far better than Crysis with DX11.

Don't even argue...

So what doesn't make it consolized trash?

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[QUOTE="mirgamer"] The whole point of the thread is about personal opinions. mirgamer

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]sorry crysis 1 and 2 have nothing in common besides the genre, crysis 1 awesome, crysis 2 bad, i dont even care about it being mutiplatform they just ruined it.Zubinen

explain to me why it has been nominated so many times for the flop of the year in this thread alone? majority opinion > your opinion, thats how it is.

[QUOTE="Zubinen"]

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]sorry crysis 1 and 2 have nothing in common besides the genre, crysis 1 awesome, crysis 2 bad, i dont even care about it being mutiplatform they just ruined it.Krelian-co

explain to me why it has been nominated so many times for the flop of the year in this thread alone? majority opinion > your opinion, thats how it is.

I thought Crysis 2 was great in its own way.. It most certianly had a better narrative, story.. Graphics wise I thought they both looked great.. Crysis 1 may have been technically superior, but alot of the environments became montonus and boring rainforest after rainforest.. Hell those imo aren't even the best looking parts of the game.. Its when you get into the mountain really when the graphics really do pick up.. Crysis 1 also had some serious pacing problem where the first third of the game was very lazily done imo where I felt like there was little reason for me to go the next waypoint half the time.. Its only when the Americans invaded did I begin caring what happened.. The one thing I thought to be a definite improvement over the first was the suit mode.. Armor actually felt like armor.. Instead of the typical safety net that you used the majority of the time.. Speed mode to me in the first felt unneeded because the only time you used it was to sprint or to get a to b.. In which they did for Crysis 2 more or less.. Strength had alot of cool ideas but most of the times they just weren't very practical half the time instead of using basic tactics.. I really though both of them were great games in their own way.

[QUOTE="mirgamer"][QUOTE="DanielDust"]

A game failing in terms if sales and reviews is not personal opinion, people thinking it's somehow personal opinion is personal opinion which "flopping" is not.

DanielDust

The TS didn't ask which game flop in terms of sale. Read his first post again and its quite obvious from which point of view that he was asking from.

Flop isn't a term used to ask "what game you didn't like", it's used for games that failed in sales and reviews, simple and easy, personal opinion isn't a factor.

With regard to this thread and the term, I disagree.

Official sales and reviews weren't the point of the thread and the TS didn't particularly asked which games flopped based on them, quite obviously.

Do feel free to take it up with TS if you think he used the term flop incorrectly.

Crysis 2 has way better graphics then Crysis 1, with DX11, high texture pack and BlackFire mod its no contest, dont know how the hell people can argue that. Take off the nostalgia glasses...

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[QUOTE="Zubinen"] Crysis 2 is far superior to Crysis 1 in terms of visauls, gunplay/gameplay, fluff/plot/atmosphere, sound/art direction, and so on.

sSubZerOo

explain to me why it has been nominated so many times for the flop of the year in this thread alone? majority opinion > your opinion, thats how it is.

I thought Crysis 2 was great in its own way.. It most certianly had a better narrative, story.. Graphics wise I thought they both looked great.. Crysis 1 may have been technically superior, but alot of the environments became montonus and boring rainforest after rainforest.. Hell those imo aren't even the best looking parts of the game.. Its when you get into the mountain really when the graphics really do pick up.. Crysis 1 also had some serious pacing problem where the first third of the game was very lazily done imo where I felt like there was little reason for me to go the next waypoint half the time.. Its only when the Americans invaded did I begin caring what happened.. The one thing I thought to be a definite improvement over the first was the suit mode.. Armor actually felt like armor.. Instead of the typical safety net that you used the majority of the time.. Speed mode to me in the first felt unneeded because the only time you used it was to sprint or to get a to b.. In which they did for Crysis 2 more or less.. Strength had alot of cool ideas but most of the times they just weren't very practical half the time instead of using basic tactics.. I really though both of them were great games in their own way.

Crysis 2 has way better graphics then Crysis 1, with DX11, high texture pack and BlackFire mod its no contest, dont know how the hell people can argue that. Take off the nostalgia glasses...

V4LENT1NE

Do you even know what nostalgia is, or are you just saying that because you feel in need of bloating your post?

Why do you think Crytek themselves stated Crysis 2 backfired and that they were trying to "fix" it with the DX11 patch that came only later?

Logic. Leave it at the door when you subscribe to GS :roll:

They didn't try to "fix it" with the DX 11 patch that was announced before the game was even released. I'ts not "crysis 1 is better because I don't consider Crysis 2 as having the latest patch installed", it's "Crysis 2 looks better than Crysis 1, because patches are included in comparisons".

Their problem was not delaying the game till the PC version was finished.

[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

[QUOTE="Zubinen"]Crysis 2 is far superior to Crysis 1 in terms of visauls, gunplay/gameplay, fluff/plot/atmosphere, sound/art direction, and so on.

Arthur96

Crysis 2 actually looks worse than Crysis 1, the gameplay is infinitely inferior (the suit is just out of place in Crysis 2 while it melded perfectly with Crysis 1's environments), the atmosphere was pitiful...

Were you drunk when you played it or something?

Crysis 2 looks far better than Crysis with DX11.

Don't even argue...

Crysis 2 is technically inferior to Crysis and Warhead in a huge amount of departments: uses a lot less polygons in the wireframe of the characters, has worse overal textures (specially the ones from the faces), the water shaders are wastly inferior, the environment interactivity was severely downgrade (physics are almos inexistant in Crysis 2), the scale of the landscape was crushed to much smaller levels and the I.A. is clearly worse than in Warhead (not to talk about the amount of bugs involved). The only thing wich was improved in Crysis 2 is the global lightning, and even then is almost fake due Crysis 2 lacks time of day changing in real time, a feature that both Crysis, Warhead and even the multiplayer Crysis Wars displayed.

You can't seriously argue about the "Crysis 2 technical superiority" when the game loses in scale, wireframe, textures, water, physics, I.A., player supported and use of variable time of the day. And the technical lacks are only a small part of the problems with the game: the game doesn't conects with the precedent ones; there's no continuity in the characters; the armor is turned from a elite tool used by both the US and KPA Special Forces to a nonsensical "unique alien symbiote" that fuses the mind of two humans (one of them also, doesn't speak a single line in the game).

Still, I don't think that the game is terrible, but taking in consideration that is the latest iteration of the Crysis franchise is a mediocre title, and a (new) proof that making games for 11 years old console players usually ends bad.

[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]

Crysis 2 has way better graphics then Crysis 1, with DX11, high texture pack and BlackFire mod its no contest, dont know how the hell people can argue that. Take off the nostalgia glasses...

N30F3N1X

Do you even know what nostalgia is, or are you just saying that because you feel in need of bloating your post?

Why do you think Crytek themselves stated Crysis 2 backfired and that they were trying to "fix" it with the DX11 patch that came only later?

Logic. Leave it at the door when you subscribe to GS :roll:

i would say crysis 2 because i was really dissapointed, but i still think its good. Dragon age 2 probably

Duke Nukem Forever. In fact it's the biggest flop in the entire gaming generation.

[QUOTE="Arthur96"]

[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

Crysis 2 actually looks worse than Crysis 1, the gameplay is infinitely inferior (the suit is just out of place in Crysis 2 while it melded perfectly with Crysis 1's environments), the atmosphere was pitiful...

Were you drunk when you played it or something?

Ondoval

Crysis 2 looks far better than Crysis with DX11.

Don't even argue...

Crysis 2 is technically inferior to Crysis and Warhead in a huge amount of departments: uses a lot less polygons in the wireframe of the characters, has worse overal textures (specially the ones from the faces), the water shaders are wastly inferior, the environment interactivity was severely downgrade (physics are almos inexistant in Crysis 2), the scale of the landscape was crushed to much smaller levels and the I.A. is clearly worse than in Warhead (not to talk about the amount of bugs involved). The only thing wich was improved in Crysis 2 is the global lightning, and even then is almost fake due Crysis 2 lacks time of day changing in real time, a feature that both Crysis, Warhead and even the multiplayer Crysis Wars displayed.

You can't seriously argue about the "Crysis 2 technical superiority" when the game loses in scale, wireframe, textures, water, physics, I.A., player supported and use of variable time of the day. And the technical lacks are only a small part of the problems with the game: the game doesn't conects with the precedent ones; there's no continuity in the characters; the armor is turned from a elite tool used by both the US and KPA Special Forces to a nonsensical "unique alien symbiote" that fuses the mind of two humans (one of them also, doesn't speak a single line in the game).

Still, I don't think that the game is terrible, but taking in consideration that is the latest iteration of the Crysis franchise is a mediocre title, and a (new) proof that making games for 11 years old console players usually ends bad.

Dragon Age II and Duke Nukem Forever.

Duke Nukem Forever, it should have never been made, so it could stay legendary.

[QUOTE="Zubinen"]

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]sorry crysis 1 and 2 have nothing in common besides the genre, crysis 1 awesome, crysis 2 bad, i dont even care about it being mutiplatform they just ruined it.Krelian-co

explain to me why it has been nominated so many times for the flop of the year in this thread alone? majority opinion > your opinion, thats how it is.

Keep drinking that Crysis 1/PC elitist kool aid, it won't do you any good.

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

[QUOTE="Zubinen"] Crysis 2 is far superior to Crysis 1 in terms of visauls, gunplay/gameplay, fluff/plot/atmosphere, sound/art direction, and so on.

Zubinen

explain to me why it has been nominated so many times for the flop of the year in this thread alone? majority opinion > your opinion, thats how it is.

I agree, Crysis 2.

Brink.

Crysis 2 was bad compared to the first one, DA2 was really bad only played 20 minutes of the demo to know the game was trash also best PC game of the year will be Red Orchestra 2 trust me :PFr0st3d

I just played Red Orchestra 2 for an hour. It's freaking awesome. Killing people has never felt so great.

Biggest flop for me personally was portal 2. I wish I never bought it. Made it an hour and a half in then just lost interest completely.

My guess is Dungeon Siege 3, but without numbers it's hard to say. Based on the demo, DNF was meh, but I think many (or enough people at least) bought the game for the nostalgia.flipin_jackass

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]sorry crysis 1 and 2 have nothing in common besides the genre, crysis 1 awesome, crysis 2 bad, i dont even care about it being mutiplatform they just ruined it.Zubinen