Blizzard is an overrated game developer imo.

[QUOTE="Tauu"]

Of course Blizzard is overrated. Just look at all the Blizzard butt kissing going on from Gamespot reporters. Blizzard must have some big checks flying this way.

Meejoe27

Must be a conspiracy...

OR they create incredible games and have millions of fans.

Right now there are millions of people playing their games.

How many game developers can say that? 3 maybe 4 in the world?

Face it, they are a giant in the industry and earned their reputation for quality.

Well, I doubt anyone could convince me that there is any of the following:

- A MMORPG that came out before World of Warcraft that is at least as good as World of Warcraft.

- A RTS game that came out before Starcraft that is at least half as good as Starcraft. :P

- An ARPG that came out before Diablo II that is at least one fourth as good as Diablo II. :lol:

(Warcraft III was also good, but didn't hold my attention for as long as Starcraft did for various reasons, not the least of which were items and heroes.)

Well, I doubt anyone could convince me that there is any of the following:

- A MMORPG that came out before World of Warcraft that is at least as good as World of Warcraft. Everquest

- A RTS game that came out before Starcraft that is at least half as good as Starcraft. :P Nothing, actually...Maybe Red Alert?

- An ARPG that came out before Diablo II that is at least one fourth as good as Diablo II. :lol: Diablo

(Warcraft III was also good, but didn't hold my attention for as long as Starcraft did for various reasons, not the least of which were items and heroes.)

SpaceMoose

There you go

[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]

Well, I doubt anyone could convince me that there is any of the following:

- A MMORPG that came out before World of Warcraft that is at least as good as World of Warcraft. Everquest

- A RTS game that came out before Starcraft that is at least half as good as Starcraft. :P Nothing, actually...Maybe Red Alert?

- An ARPG that came out before Diablo II that is at least one fourth as good as Diablo II. :lol: Diablo

(Warcraft III was also good, but didn't hold my attention for as long as Starcraft did for various reasons, not the least of which were items and heroes.)

Phoenix534

There you go

[QUOTE="Meejoe27"]

[QUOTE="Tauu"]

Of course Blizzard is overrated. Just look at all the Blizzard butt kissing going on from Gamespot reporters. Blizzard must have some big checks flying this way.

DanielDust

Must be a conspiracy...

OR they create incredible games and have millions of fans.

Right now there are millions of people playing their games.

How many game developers can say that? 3 maybe 4 in the world?

Face it, they are a giant in the industry and earned their reputation for quality.

nah, i don't really HATE their games, per se. i loved SC and W3; D2 was pretty good. don't get me wrong, Blizzard is definitely better than most studios out there. but is it not also overrated? that's a big yessir imo. Blizz has its share of weaknesses, and their reportoire is far from perfect - just like every other studio out there. i don't hate Blizz for that, because if i do i'll have to hate IW, Rockstar, Square Enix, and many other studios as well.

what disgusts the hell outta me is how hypocritical and self-conceited blizz fans are. that's the problem right there. day in and day out we have to listen to these bozos telling us how CoD games are "rehashed", how EALA is "not innovative" and how every other mmo is "ripping off wow". and they do that while kowtowing, forehead on the ground and arms spread out in front, to the very studio that embodies what they so fervently criticise. call me over-reacting, but i really can't stand this ugly farce.

Well, I doubt anyone could convince me that there is any of the following:

- A RTS game that came out before Starcraft that is at least half as good as Starcraft. :P

SpaceMoose

Total Annihilation

i think blizzard is super overrated. they have only made 1 game and 2 expansions for that one game (world of warcraft) in the last five years. there is no denying they make great games, but they make hardly any. where as other developers make much more:

valve = 14

bioware = 4 (and one expansion)

relic = 4 (and 5 expansions)

joshthor

[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]

Well, I doubt anyone could convince me that there is any of the following:

- A RTS game that came out before Starcraft that is at least half as good as Starcraft. :P

JackBurton

Total Annihilation

The game plays great and has a nice presenation (coupled with an amazing soundtrack). Too bad the rest of the game is linear and boring as heck. Being a war of attrition, tyhe game never reatches the status that makes StarCraft look up and think. TA is fun, but it's not a strategy game. It's an action game. Very little thought goes into selecting all your units and pressing attack, and no matter how nice it looks and plays, that very fact makes the game aged and whithered on the vine. That's why the AI sucks so bad, a well: the gameplay is not designed for thought process. It's for clicking really fast, and here is where you can see the beginning of the end for a lot opf modern franchises (like C+C). Unless you have the nostalgia, stay away.

As I said in an previous post, I also don't really like the Command and Conquer games all that much, if that's at all relevant.

what disgusts the hell outta me is how hypocritical and self-conceited blizz fans are. that's the problem right there.

Jinroh_basic

[QUOTE="joshthor"]

i think blizzard is super overrated. they have only made 1 game and 2 expansions for that one game (world of warcraft) in the last five years. there is no denying they make great games, but they make hardly any. where as other developers make much more:

valve = 14

bioware = 4 (and one expansion)

relic = 4 (and 5 expansions)

Kh1ndjal

Wait, I take that back. I had a few hours of fun with Portal.

I was very pro-Blizzard when they finally announced SC2 and D3. Now I'm very anti-Blizzard due to the avalanche of dumb decisions they have made regarding these games. I hope they go bankrupt after releasing said games.

[QUOTE="Jinroh_basic"]

what disgusts the hell outta me is how hypocritical and self-conceited blizz fans are. that's the problem right there.

Kh1ndjal

this thread asks if Blizz is overrated, and i answered yes, Blizz is obscenely overrated by its fans. I never said it's blizzard's fault.

[QUOTE="Kh1ndjal"][QUOTE="Jinroh_basic"]

what disgusts the hell outta me is how hypocritical and self-conceited blizz fans are. that's the problem right there.

Jinroh_basic

this thread asks if Blizz is overrated, and i answered yes, Blizz is obscenely overrated by its fans. I never said it's blizzard's fault.

I applaud the TC by seducing the unaware into a hysteria for emotional behavior. The power of The Force has no limits...

The fact that millions of people are playing their games, doesn't go very far to convince me that the games are great.

Millions of people listen to Britney Spears.

20 million people bought pet rocks.

And finally - tens of millions watch American Idol.

[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]

Well, I doubt anyone could convince me that there is any of the following:

- A MMORPG that came out before World of Warcraft that is at least as good as World of Warcraft. Everquest

- A RTS game that came out before Starcraft that is at least half as good as Starcraft. :P Nothing, actually...Maybe Red Alert?

- An ARPG that came out before Diablo II that is at least one fourth as good as Diablo II. :lol: Diablo

(Warcraft III was also good, but didn't hold my attention for as long as Starcraft did for various reasons, not the least of which were items and heroes.)

SpaceMoose

There you go

The fact that millions of people are playing their games, doesn't go very far to convince me that the games are great.

Millions of people listen to Britney Spears.

20 million people bought pet rocks.

And finally - tens of millions watch American Idol.

Born_Lucky

i don't get why can't bliizzard make a new game not base off the pervious franchise. i mean they got the money. why not use it to make different genre games?

TheShadowLord07

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]

So valve is hiring people with talent as opposed to losing them(blizzard)?

madrocketeer

EA is overrated, because unlike Valve or Blizzard, they don't deserve most of their attention. This is all people talk these days, Blizzard, Valve, EA, and maybe sometimes, Bioware, Relic.

IMO you're just tired of seeing Blizzard all over the place, you need your reagulars back, Valve and EA, because it's true, lately Blizzard got most of the attention, they deserve it.

DanielDust

[QUOTE="DanielDust"]

EA is overrated, because unlike Valve or Blizzard, they don't deserve most of their attention. This is all people talk these days, Blizzard, Valve, EA, and maybe sometimes, Bioware, Relic.

IMO you're just tired of seeing Blizzard all over the place, you need your reagulars back, Valve and EA, because it's true, lately Blizzard got most of the attention, they deserve it.

Dr_Brocoli

[QUOTE="Kh1ndjal"][QUOTE="Jinroh_basic"]

what disgusts the hell outta me is how hypocritical and self-conceited blizz fans are. that's the problem right there.

Jinroh_basic

this thread asks if Blizz is overrated, and i answered yes, Blizz is obscenely overrated by its fans. I never said it's blizzard's fault.

Thats a pointless argument because there are a lot of people who play Blizzard games and enjoy them, so they are diverse bunch with different opinions. If you focus on the most rabid and devoted fans than nearly all companies are overrated.

I dont really know where the fans came in considering 'overrated' can mean a lot of things and so far it simply meant that their games are rated too highly and sell too well.

Anyways in this thread Blizzard fans seems to have held the high ground and did not go down to insulting an entire group of people as being 'hypocritical and self-conceited'

[QUOTE="madrocketeer"][QUOTE="shakmaster13"]

So valve is hiring people with talent as opposed to losing them(blizzard)?

zomglolcats

Well I think part of the reason HG:L turned out so bad at launch was the lack of polish that one would expect from a game with high production costs, which HG:L didn't really have. If they had the resources to test the game out more I think it would have been a very successful game considering how almost all the bugs were patched eventually.

[QUOTE="DanielDust"]

EA is overrated, because unlike Valve or Blizzard, they don't deserve most of their attention. This is all people talk these days, Blizzard, Valve, EA, and maybe sometimes, Bioware, Relic.

IMO you're just tired of seeing Blizzard all over the place, you need your reagulars back, Valve and EA, because it's true, lately Blizzard got most of the attention, they deserve it.

Dr_Brocoli

Then where will I get my battlefield fix :cry:

[QUOTE="Dr_Brocoli"][QUOTE="DanielDust"]

EA is overrated, because unlike Valve or Blizzard, they don't deserve most of their attention. This is all people talk these days, Blizzard, Valve, EA, and maybe sometimes, Bioware, Relic.

IMO you're just tired of seeing Blizzard all over the place, you need your reagulars back, Valve and EA, because it's true, lately Blizzard got most of the attention, they deserve it.

shakmaster13

Then where will I get my battlefield fix :cry:

Anyway, Dice is ok, but EA...not so much.

Good topic, but I gotta say blizzard imo has been living up to the hype, i'll tell you why. I've really became a PC gamer maybe around 3 yrs ago( I use to be strictly console). I've gotten hooked on WoW and my cuz told me to try WC 3 and diablo 2. Maybe they are over hype, but they were the dealers that introduce me to the games that were the gateway drug into PC gaming universe.

Is World of Warcraft different than a regular RPG once you get into it? As a lifelong console RPG gamer, I didn't get what all the fuss was about.AshieduNwadiei

[QUOTE="AshieduNwadiei"]Is World of Warcraft different than a regular RPG once you get into it? As a lifelong console RPG gamer, I didn't get what all the fuss was about.KHAndAnime

And the talent that Blizzard loses has pretty much fallen flat on their face. Look at Flagship...zomglolcats

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="AshieduNwadiei"]Is World of Warcraft different than a regular RPG once you get into it? As a lifelong console RPG gamer, I didn't get what all the fuss was about.AshieduNwadiei

[QUOTE="AshieduNwadiei"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] All MMORPGs are different than regular RPGs - especially console RPGs.KHAndAnime

Fixed :P

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="AshieduNwadiei"] To what degree I mean? It felt like a typical RPG with other people playing along.shakmaster13

Fixed :P