Bobby Kotick's opinion on BF3

[QUOTE="Prexxus"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]He's pretty intellectually dishonest... acting like there's no PC version and ignoring/discrediting the size and profits of the PC market. realguitarhero5

[QUOTE="Prexxus"][QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"] He implied that PC only has a small audience. Seems like bashing to me.the_ChEeSe_mAn2

So annoying when people do this, why not find out for yourself?

Another thing. The only people pushing BF3 to be MW3 rivial is EA because they want to get people talking about their game. If I was Bobby I would of simply said BF3? What's that? Never heard of them. Probably just another FPS trying but failing to compete with Call of Duty.

He didn't say that at all. He just said he hasn't seen it on consoles yet. biggest_loser

"So far, I've only seen Battlefield 3 on a PC. I haven't seen it on a console where the bulk of our business is," he said to CNBC (see below). "If it's just a PC title, as it looks like today, that's just a small audience to participate," he added.

intellectually dishonest - the conscious omission of aspects of the truth known or believed to be relevant in the particular context.

He knows it's a multiplat, there's no question to him, he just conveniently left that out and suggested it could just be a PC game, not that it was an exclusive, but that it could be.

A little context, the interviewer mentioned that BF3 was to be in direct competition with mw3.

It been anounced to be multiplat since the start :|

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]He didn't say that at all. He just said he hasn't seen it on consoles yet. Inconsistancy

"So far, I've only seen Battlefield 3 on a PC. I haven't seen it on a console where the bulk of our business is," he said to CNBC (see below). "If it's just a PC title, as it looks like today, that's just a small audience to participate," he added.

intellectually dishonest - the conscious omission of aspects of the truth known or believed to be relevant in the particular context.

He knows it's a multiplat, there's no question to him, he just conveniently left that out and suggested it could just be a PC game, not that it was an exclusive, but that it could be.

A little context, the interviewer mentioned that BF3 was to be in direct competition with mw3.

Bout time someone corrected those guys. He DID say he thought it might only be a PC game.But he had lie written all over his face. He was uncomfortable about it and stuttered as soon as it was asked,the only time all interview. He knows (as we all do) COD will sell more but he also knows that BF3 will be dropping the sales on MW3 by a huge chunk

[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"][QUOTE="Prexxus"] Are you joking? It's widely known in the gaming community that us PC gamers are the minority compared to consoles. Prexxus

Most people I know game on BOTH console and PC. I HIGHLY doubt consoles are THAT much more popular then PCs if at all.

And Kotick is an idiot. We all know this.

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]He didn't say that at all. He just said he hasn't seen it on consoles yet. Inconsistancy

"So far, I've only seen Battlefield 3 on a PC. I haven't seen it on a console where the bulk of our business is," he said to CNBC (see below). "If it's just a PC title, as it looks like today, that's just a small audience to participate," he added.

intellectually dishonest - the conscious omission of aspects of the truth known or believed to be relevant in the particular context.

He knows it's a multiplat, there's no question to him, he just conveniently left that out and suggested it could just be a PC game, not that it was an exclusive, but that it could be.

A little context, the interviewer mentioned that BF3 was to be in direct competition with mw3.

This. How could Bobby K the CEO of Activision not know that his main competitor's game BF3 is a multi-platform game? Of course he knows. I bet he dreams about BF3. :PElann2008

Nah. He dreams about how he could casualize and make BF the next CoD.

Thank God that'll never happen.

kotick is just mad pc gamers would sooner pirate CoD than other games b/c its NEVER been worth the money to buy it in a LONG time.

kotick doesnt like pc gaming because that means taking sides with many brands and faces.. i think he jsut hates the press so he says anything to get them to run away.

thats my theory, i also think he should be hit by a CONVOY of busses for his ignorance of us as he goes outside on his 1/2 to get a cup of coffee :P

finally dude who said pc gaming is a minority.. umm seriously..

dude let me thorw some honest rhyme your way.. there are people still playing games older than you are on a PC :P somewhere in the world there is someone playing on a commodore 64..

the same however can not be said for the amiga 2600, or super nes or n64 (the dreamcast is an exception and a discussion for another time)

would you like to know why my friend?? because pc gaming is 4 ever!!

yes current consoles versus current pc is larger but as a whole we pc gamers out number you about ooo.. 10 - 1 if not more...

pc gaming has many definitions.. as much as i ahte to say it flahs & facebook games are technically "pc gaming" and therefore ALSO need to be counted as to all the childrens games ( another thing consoles lack btw ( reader rabbit ftw!!!))

you may have freed the console from its offline vices but pc gaming is EVERYONES MASTER

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj2Zf9tlg2Y&feature=relmfu

id also like to point out that console gaming has an expirey date. yes i said a best before date.

consoles are becoming to pc like.. the wii U and ps3 are signs of the times.. you cant make a cheap console anymore.. the wii u's controller will probably be 100 dollars a pop at the stores and i can GUARANTEE a console price of about 500-600 dollars @ launch!!!

for 600 dolalrs you can max basically any game on a pc and beat the console exclusive games senseless @ 720p nevermind the still pc only 1080p (which will remain a constant according to various sources @ amd who are manufacturing the video chipset for the wii u (rumored to be an hd 3800 series rotflstomp)

visually speaking consoles are really far behind, and in the future they wont have the functionality of a pc or the cost effectiveness of one as well..

you boys are going to become extinct like the dinosaurs before you..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gywlI2J9I44

kotick is just mad pc gamers would sooner pirate CoD than other games b/c its NEVER been worth the money to buy it in a LONG time.

kotick doesnt like pc gaming because that means taking sides with many brands and faces.. i think he jsut hates the press so he says anything to get them to run away.

thats my theory, i also think he should be hit by a CONVOY of busses for his ignorance of us as he goes outside on his 1/2 to get a cup of coffee :P

finally dude who said pc gaming is a minority.. umm seriously..

dude let me thorw some honest rhyme your way.. there are people still playing games older than you are on a PC :P somewhere in the world there is someone playing on a commodore 64..

the same however can not be said for the amiga 2600, or super nes or n64 (the dreamcast is an exception and a discussion for another time)

would you like to know why my friend?? because pc gaming is 4 ever!!

yes current consoles versus current pc is larger but as a whole we pc gamers out number you about ooo.. 10 - 1 if not more...

pc gaming has many definitions.. as much as i ahte to say it flahs & facebook games are technically "pc gaming" and therefore ALSO need to be counted as to all the childrens games ( another thing consoles lack btw ( reader rabbit ftw!!!))

you may have freed the console from its offline vices but pc gaming is EVERYONES MASTER

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj2Zf9tlg2Y&feature=relmfu

id also like to point out that console gaming has an expirey date. yes i said a best before date.

consoles are becoming to pc like.. the wii U and ps3 are signs of the times.. you cant make a cheap console anymore.. the wii u's controller will probably be 100 dollars a pop at the stores and i can GUARANTEE a console price of about 500-600 dollars @ launch!!!

for 600 dolalrs you can max basically any game on a pc and beat the console exclusive games senseless @ 720p nevermind the still pc only 1080p (which will remain a constant according to various sources @ amd who are manufacturing the video chipset for the wii u (rumored to be an hd 3800 series rotflstomp)

visually speaking consoles are really far behind, and in the future they wont have the functionality of a pc or the cost effectiveness of one as well..

you boys are going to become extinct like the dinosaurs before you..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gywlI2J9I44

ionusX

What the hell do those retarded videos have to do with anything besides being incrediblely bad. Is this a joke? Seriously, what the hell are you talking about?

Commandor 64? I still have my Nintendo with Ninja Gaiden and Zelda. Whats your point? Bobby isn't going to make money on making new games for any of those old systems so why would he care?

Would it matter if 3 billion people are playing tetris on the PC that they purchase decades ago? The point is to make a profit and you do that by selling games now.

Seriously, how many dos games will work on Windows 7? People playing the old games have old stuff and have been playing the same stuff. They are not buying 20 million copies of a game. They may spend a $1 or play some thing free online but, they aren't spending money. Bobby doesn't want the PC gamer that been playing the same game for the last 12 years. There is no money to be made on someone like that. They want the guy that buys the COD game at full price when it comes out every year. Those are the people that are making Bobby rich.

[QUOTE="Prexxus"][QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"] Proof? Show me some before stating something as a fact.Elann2008

Pretty much this. That's the way the PC market works, we have all sorts of amazing deals available to us...ALL THE TIME. Activision, slow to adapt like every bloated big business, would rather try to MMO-ize their most popular franchise and focus on over-priced DLC than adapt to and become a real player in the PC market. There's clearly a decent sized audience there, as The Witcher 2 sold 400,000 copies in a week and of course there's WoW with its 11+ million subscribers. Activision just doesn't know how to properly play the PC field and would rather cater to the mouth-breathing masses that love mediocrity, buy a game (with trade-ins oftentimes), and then trade it in two weeks later.

[QUOTE="ionusX"]

kotick is just mad pc gamers would sooner pirate CoD than other games b/c its NEVER been worth the money to buy it in a LONG time.

kotick doesnt like pc gaming because that means taking sides with many brands and faces.. i think he jsut hates the press so he says anything to get them to run away.

thats my theory, i also think he should be hit by a CONVOY of busses for his ignorance of us as he goes outside on his 1/2 to get a cup of coffee :P

finally dude who said pc gaming is a minority.. umm seriously..

dude let me thorw some honest rhyme your way.. there are people still playing games older than you are on a PC :P somewhere in the world there is someone playing on a commodore 64..

the same however can not be said for the amiga 2600, or super nes or n64 (the dreamcast is an exception and a discussion for another time)

would you like to know why my friend?? because pc gaming is 4 ever!!

yes current consoles versus current pc is larger but as a whole we pc gamers out number you about ooo.. 10 - 1 if not more...

pc gaming has many definitions.. as much as i ahte to say it flahs & facebook games are technically "pc gaming" and therefore ALSO need to be counted as to all the childrens games ( another thing consoles lack btw ( reader rabbit ftw!!!))

you may have freed the console from its offline vices but pc gaming is EVERYONES MASTER

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj2Zf9tlg2Y&feature=relmfu

id also like to point out that console gaming has an expirey date. yes i said a best before date.

consoles are becoming to pc like.. the wii U and ps3 are signs of the times.. you cant make a cheap console anymore.. the wii u's controller will probably be 100 dollars a pop at the stores and i can GUARANTEE a console price of about 500-600 dollars @ launch!!!

for 600 dolalrs you can max basically any game on a pc and beat the console exclusive games senseless @ 720p nevermind the still pc only 1080p (which will remain a constant according to various sources @ amd who are manufacturing the video chipset for the wii u (rumored to be an hd 3800 series rotflstomp)

visually speaking consoles are really far behind, and in the future they wont have the functionality of a pc or the cost effectiveness of one as well..

you boys are going to become extinct like the dinosaurs before you..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gywlI2J9I44

sleepingzzz

What the hell do those retarded videos have to do with anything besides being incrediblely bad. Is this a joke? Seriously, what the hell are you talking about?

Commandor 64? I still have my Nintendo with Ninja Gaiden and Zelda. Whats your point? Bobby isn't going to make money on making new games for any of those old systems so why would he care?

dont insult my video linkage.. you just mad i have something i do the liven up my posts while you have bland boring text.. hater

Would it matter if 3 billion people are playing tetris on the PC that they purchase decades ago? The point is to make a profit and you do that by selling games now.

my point is we have a HUGE backlog of games still being played,.. consoles dont

Seriously, how many dos games will work on Windows 7?

alot its called dos emulation or running lagacy OS's or dual boot's

People playing the old games have old stuff and have been playing the same stuff. They are not buying 20 million copies of a game. They may spend a $1 or play some thing free online but, they aren't spending money. Bobby doesn't want the PC gamer that been playing the same game for the last 12 years. There is no money to be made on someone like that.

the DD service GoG and projekt CD beg to differ..

They want the guy that buys the COD game at full price when it comes out every year. Those are the people that are making Bobby rich.

their not making him any more wealthier on consoles hence why he smacks us with a whip every chance he gets.. the ugy likes to scare folks into buying his products regretably it doesnt work that way in the gmaing world.. he should go into the firearms buisness im serious he could mkae trillions of dollars convincing nations to abandon the aging fn-fal or m14 (not the m14-a1) for something more contemporary/a refurb

my responses are bolded above..

you relaly need to learn when to rage and when to talk..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubYp7m7UcTE

[QUOTE="Prexxus"][QUOTE="Darkhell153"] http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?publicUserId=5762658&bId=8239342 PC Gamers outnumber console gamers. There are your statistics for you ^.^agpickle

A entire population of gamers isnt going to dramaticly change in 4 years and if anything, I would guess that PC gaming has grown since then. Still waiting for proof of any kind on your end.

After all is said and done MW3 is going to out sell BF3. You can talk about how big the market is or how smart it is or what ever you want. Nothing about that is going to change. Personally, I not going to buy either cause I'm tired of this style of FPS.

sleepingzzz

Yes, its going to sell lots but no thanks to Mr Kotick though. He's just a cold-hearted whipmaster.

i think you are missing what really matters by a game creators standards: 6-"Last but not least, the smallest section is the most hardcore of all. Although they make up just 2 percent of the gaming public, "Heavy Gamers" own an average of 2.8 consoles and 1.9 portables. They play a whopping 39.3 hours a week, mainly on the Xbox 360 and Nintendo Wii, and buy a budget-busting average of 13.1 games every quarter--or roughly 4.5 games each month." all the other groups were shown as buying less than one game per QUARTER while the real money is in the last group of more than 13 games on average a quarter. These statistics were made from a POLL apparently and not by purchase data, AND the NPD is only relevent in the US, not to mention this was made more than 3 years ago. yes the pc has more "gamers" but these "gamers" are more likely to be a soccer mom that plays her facebook games or one of the many software pirates that do nothing but hurt the industry. (i know the consoles are victims of piracy, BUT its apparently not bad enough to make developers choose the PC- and make it a known reason of why they are choosing to make a game for PC over any one console, unlike many developers recently. source: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Consoles-PC-Games-Unreal-Gears,10437.html as of jan 2010 there were 38 million ps3 subscriptions and 39 million xbox live subscriptions (20 million paying for gold). source: http://www.joystiq.com/2010/01/06/xbox-by-the-numbers-20m-xbox-live-users-10m-nongaming-39m-xbo/ now one could argue that people can make more than one account, but the same thing can be said for pc gamers, also, the ps3 and xbox dont do internet (well xbox anyway, ps3s browsing experience is crappy IMHO), so if you start quoting the statistics that just about everyone owns a pc, it doesnt mean they game and their supporting the gaming industry by purchasing games and game content. it just means your mom likes farmville as much as everyone elses mom, but she wouldnt go out and buy COD for herself. basically what im saying is: yes i may have a wow account and yes i do purchase games off steam and yes i have a gaming rig, but i suffer no illusions that the developers are going to go to where the money is, and that is the consoles. period. (source: see the majority of titles that has been released in the past 3 years and how they are made for console first then ported over to pc) theres some sources have fun :P gearsofhalogeek

Thirty Million Steam Accounts

Did the soccer moms create all those?

The PC does have an audience and can be financially viable, it's just that Bobby has no interest in catering for it, because it expects more than rehashes.

[QUOTE="gearsofhalogeek"]

i think you are missing what really matters by a game creators standards: 6-"Last but not least, the smallest section is the most hardcore of all. Although they make up just 2 percent of the gaming public, "Heavy Gamers" own an average of 2.8 consoles and 1.9 portables. They play a whopping 39.3 hours a week, mainly on the Xbox 360 and Nintendo Wii, and buy a budget-busting average of 13.1 games every quarter--or roughly 4.5 games each month." all the other groups were shown as buying less than one game per QUARTER while the real money is in the last group of more than 13 games on average a quarter. These statistics were made from a POLL apparently and not by purchase data, AND the NPD is only relevent in the US, not to mention this was made more than 3 years ago. yes the pc has more "gamers" but these "gamers" are more likely to be a soccer mom that plays her facebook games or one of the many software pirates that do nothing but hurt the industry. (i know the consoles are victims of piracy, BUT its apparently not bad enough to make developers choose the PC- and make it a known reason of why they are choosing to make a game for PC over any one console, unlike many developers recently. source: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Consoles-PC-Games-Unreal-Gears,10437.html as of jan 2010 there were 38 million ps3 subscriptions and 39 million xbox live subscriptions (20 million paying for gold). source: http://www.joystiq.com/2010/01/06/xbox-by-the-numbers-20m-xbox-live-users-10m-nongaming-39m-xbo/ now one could argue that people can make more than one account, but the same thing can be said for pc gamers, also, the ps3 and xbox dont do internet (well xbox anyway, ps3s browsing experience is crappy IMHO), so if you start quoting the statistics that just about everyone owns a pc, it doesnt mean they game and their supporting the gaming industry by purchasing games and game content. it just means your mom likes farmville as much as everyone elses mom, but she wouldnt go out and buy COD for herself. basically what im saying is: yes i may have a wow account and yes i do purchase games off steam and yes i have a gaming rig, but i suffer no illusions that the developers are going to go to where the money is, and that is the consoles. period. (source: see the majority of titles that has been released in the past 3 years and how they are made for console first then ported over to pc) theres some sources have fun :P Tresca_

Thirty Million Steam Accounts

Did the soccer moms create all those?

The PC does have an audience and can be financially viable, it's just that Bobby has no interest in catering for it, because it expects more than rehashes.

hey check it out! nintendo sold more wiis in the US alone than there are total worldwide steam accounts: http://www.1up.com/news/wii-34-million-ds-47 again, mr kotick is all about the money. he knows its in consoles and not pc.gearsofhalogeek

Yeah. Now look up how many copies of Call of Duty were sold on the Wii.

your 30 million steam accounts does not equal 60 million (ps3 and xbox combined online accounts). and the wii is a platform for ip spinoffs. all 3 (nintendo, ps and xbox) total financially equals win. dont get me wrong, i game on pc, but your rehash remark made me laugh. starcraft. EVERY MMO.... yeah, we pc gamers expect more than rehashes dont we?gearsofhalogeek

Call of Duty is about to reach 7 sequels in the space of 8 years.

StarCraft in the space of 13 years has had 3 expansion packs and a sequel. And your claiming it to be the rehash?

its the exact same game with updated graphics. same thing with all the diablos. all the civilizations. all the sim cities. all the sims. all the battlefields. lol get real. just because a game developer takes 13 times as long to make a game that is IDENTICAL in EVERY WAY to its predecesser other than graphics and story doesnt make it not a rehash. here: rehash - vb 1. ( tr ) to rework, reuse, or make over (old or already used material) - n 2. something consisting of old, reworked, or reused material you said it not me.

its the exact same game with updated graphics. same thing with all the diablos. all the civilizations. all the sim cities. all the sims. all the battlefields. lol get real. just because a game developer takes 13 times as long to make a game that is IDENTICAL in EVERY WAY to its predecesser other than graphics and story doesnt make it not a rehash. here: rehash - vb 1. ( tr ) to rework, reuse, or make over (old or already used material) - n 2. something consisting of old, reworked, or reused material you said it not me.

gearsofhalogeek

................. Its more than just graphics and story.. Its gameplay.. There are noticable improvements and differences between each of those games from one sequel to the next.

[QUOTE="gearsofhalogeek"]

its the exact same game with updated graphics. same thing with all the diablos. all the civilizations. all the sim cities. all the sims. all the battlefields. lol get real. just because a game developer takes 13 times as long to make a game that is IDENTICAL in EVERY WAY to its predecesser other than graphics and story doesnt make it not a rehash. here: rehash - vb 1. ( tr ) to rework, reuse, or make over (old or already used material) - n 2. something consisting of old, reworked, or reused material you said it not me.

sSubZerOo

................. Its more than just graphics and story.. Its gameplay.. There are noticable improvements and differences between each of those games from one sequel to the next.

[QUOTE="gearsofhalogeek"]

its the exact same game with updated graphics. same thing with all the diablos. all the civilizations. all the sim cities. all the sims. all the battlefields. lol get real. just because a game developer takes 13 times as long to make a game that is IDENTICAL in EVERY WAY to its predecesser other than graphics and story doesnt make it not a rehash. here: rehash - vb 1. ( tr ) to rework, reuse, or make over (old or already used material) - n 2. something consisting of old, reworked, or reused material you said it not me.

sSubZerOo

................. Its more than just graphics and story.. Its gameplay.. There are noticable improvements and differences between each of those games from one sequel to the next.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="gearsofhalogeek"]

its the exact same game with updated graphics. same thing with all the diablos. all the civilizations. all the sim cities. all the sims. all the battlefields. lol get real. just because a game developer takes 13 times as long to make a game that is IDENTICAL in EVERY WAY to its predecesser other than graphics and story doesnt make it not a rehash. here: rehash - vb 1. ( tr ) to rework, reuse, or make over (old or already used material) - n 2. something consisting of old, reworked, or reused material you said it not me.

DanielDust

................. Its more than just graphics and story.. Its gameplay.. There are noticable improvements and differences between each of those games from one sequel to the next.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="gearsofhalogeek"]

its the exact same game with updated graphics. same thing with all the diablos. all the civilizations. all the sim cities. all the sims. all the battlefields. lol get real. just because a game developer takes 13 times as long to make a game that is IDENTICAL in EVERY WAY to its predecesser other than graphics and story doesnt make it not a rehash. here: rehash - vb 1. ( tr ) to rework, reuse, or make over (old or already used material) - n 2. something consisting of old, reworked, or reused material you said it not me.

gearsofhalogeek

................. Its more than just graphics and story.. Its gameplay.. There are noticable improvements and differences between each of those games from one sequel to the next.

Minor gameplay changes? There is a world of difference between Diablo and Diablo 2 for instance when it comes to gameplay..

its the exact same game with updated graphics. same thing with all the diablos. all the civilizations. all the sim cities. all the sims. all the battlefields. lol get real. just because a game developer takes 13 times as long to make a game that is IDENTICAL in EVERY WAY to its predecesser other than graphics and story doesnt make it not a rehash. here: rehash - vb 1. ( tr ) to rework, reuse, or make over (old or already used material) - n 2. something consisting of old, reworked, or reused material you said it not me.

gearsofhalogeek

OK. If we go strictly by the definition of rehash that you have provided, then what game sequel isn't?

I'm referring to adding NEW features to a game:

• Civilisation IV introduced new features like religion.

• SimCity 4 - IGN called it a "major evolutionary step in the series"

• The Sims 3 added an open world.

Since the first Call of Duty what has 7 sequels taken us to?

[QUOTE="gearsofhalogeek"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

................. Its more than just graphics and story.. Its gameplay.. There are noticable improvements and differences between each of those games from one sequel to the next.

sSubZerOo

Minor gameplay changes? There is a world of difference between Diablo and Diablo 2 for instance when it comes to gameplay..

I'll be the first to say it. This man is pretty smart. He's downplaying the competition while promoting his game. The only negatives he's getting out of it is a few people raging about it online, who weren't going to buy his game in the first place. Let's be honest here, Call of Duty is giving people what they want. Proof of that? It sellls like gold! The company has realized they have to put almost no effort into a game and they'll still make a ridiculous amount of money off of it? Why spend X amount of money developing a game, when you could 1/2 X and have it sell the exact same.

I think people need to step back and take a look at the industry. They don't care about us as people enjoying their product. They only care about us going to a store with a credit card. The goal of any corporation is to make money, that's why they open the business to begin with and once they get super popular they're not going to say "Okay, now we have a great product, let's stop looking at how we can make the most profit we could possibly make."

The guy goes on TV promoting his game while downplaying his competition. Seems like a successful interview to me.

[QUOTE="gearsofhalogeek"]

its the exact same game with updated graphics. same thing with all the diablos. all the civilizations. all the sim cities. all the sims. all the battlefields. lol get real. just because a game developer takes 13 times as long to make a game that is IDENTICAL in EVERY WAY to its predecesser other than graphics and story doesnt make it not a rehash. here: rehash - vb 1. ( tr ) to rework, reuse, or make over (old or already used material) - n 2. something consisting of old, reworked, or reused material you said it not me.

Tresca_

OK. If we go strictly by the definition of rehash that you have provided, then what game sequel isn't?

I'm referring to adding NEW features to a game:

• Civilisation IV introduced new features like religion.

• SimCity 4 - IGN called it a "major evolutionary step in the series"

• The Sims 3 added an open world.

Since the first Call of Duty what has 7 sequels taken us to?

I'll be the first to say it. This man is pretty smart. He's downplaying the competition while promoting his game. The only negatives he's getting out of it is a few people raging about it online, who weren't going to buy his game in the first place. Let's be honest here, Call of Duty is giving people what they want. Proof of that? It sellls like gold! The company has realized they have to put almost no effort into a game and they'll still make a ridiculous amount of money off of it? Why spend X amount of money developing a game, when you could 1/2 X and have it sell the exact same.

I think people need to step back and take a look at the industry. They don't care about us as people enjoying their product. They only care about us going to a store with a credit card. The goal of any corporation is to make money, that's why they open the business to begin with and once they get super popular they're not going to say "Okay, now we have a great product, let's stop looking at how we can make the most profit we could possibly make."

The guy goes on TV promoting his game while downplaying his competition. Seems like a successful interview to me.

MCL0789

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="gearsofhalogeek"]again, it is a rehash. read the definition and explain to me how ANY of those games are not the definitions of rehashs of their predecessors. the same gameplay mechanics with minor adjustments does not make a game not a rehash. lol again i didnt claim to be the stuck up pc person with a distaste for rehashes, i just pointed out that MOST of the BIG PC TITLES are REHASHES of their prequels or straight copies of other games. and im fine with that, as long as they do what they are supposed to do.gearsofhalogeek

Minor gameplay changes? There is a world of difference between Diablo and Diablo 2 for instance when it comes to gameplay..

Facts? :| Your entire point is a opinion based one.. IN your opinion you consider those rehashes.. And in my opinion the difference between Diablo 1 and 2 is night in day to suggest it is a rehash.. What you say is specifically the core mechanic of the game to what it makes it fit int he same genre.. Outside of that it is much larger.. It has way more environments, more involved story, more classes, a talent tree, socketing etc etc.. A rehash at least to most people on this board is a game that is released with very little to no improvement what so ever.. The Madden games are considered rehashes.. The recent Call of Duty games are seen as rehashes.. In whihc the game mechanics really haven't changed or improved.

[QUOTE="gearsofhalogeek"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Minor gameplay changes? There is a world of difference between Diablo and Diablo 2 for instance when it comes to gameplay..

sSubZerOo

Facts? :| Your entire point is a opinion based one.. IN your opinion you consider those rehashes.. And in my opinion the difference between Diablo 1 and 2 is night in day to suggest it is a rehash.. What you say is specifically the core mechanic of the game to what it makes it fit int he same genre.. Outside of that it is much larger.. It has way more environments, more involved story, more classes, a talent tree, socketing etc etc.. A rehash at least to most people on this board is a game that is released with very little to no improvement what so ever.. The Madden games are considered rehashes.. The recent Call of Duty games are seen as rehashes.. In whihc the game mechanics really haven't changed or improved.

im not the one that made the rehash remark. all sequels are basically rehashes. they use at least part of the old material, be it story, gameplay, etc. Im not sure, i didnt play modern warfare or MW2. so i cant answer that question. the last one i played was one of its WW2 iterations and from that it has made quite a few changes, BUT its still, as you would call, a rehash.gearsofhalogeek

That's fair enough. Didn't mean to have a go at you. Rehash wasn't the best word to use.

I just have a personal vendetta against Kotick and other suits who have infiltrated the industry and are out to fill their own pockets. I think he owes Call of Duty fans more than what they are getting.

If you don't feel that way then I sincerely hope you enjoy MW3.

[QUOTE="gearsofhalogeek"][QUOTE="Tresca_"]

OK. If we go strictly by the definition of rehash that you have provided, then what game sequel isn't?

I'm referring to adding NEW features to a game:

• Civilisation IV introduced new features like religion.

• SimCity 4 - IGN called it a "major evolutionary step in the series"

• The Sims 3 added an open world.

Since the first Call of Duty what has 7 sequels taken us to?

Tresca_

That's fair enough. Didn't mean to have a go at you. Rehash wasn't the best word to use.

I just have a personal vendetta against Kotick and other suits who have infiltrated the industry and are out to fill their own pockets. I think he owes Call of Duty fans more than what they are getting.

If you don't feel that way then I sincerely hope you enjoy MW3.

[QUOTE="Tresca_"]

[QUOTE="gearsofhalogeek"]im not the one that made the rehash remark. all sequels are basically rehashes. they use at least part of the old material, be it story, gameplay, etc. Im not sure, i didnt play modern warfare or MW2. so i cant answer that question. the last one i played was one of its WW2 iterations and from that it has made quite a few changes, BUT its still, as you would call, a rehash.gearsofhalogeek

That's fair enough. Didn't mean to have a go at you. Rehash wasn't the best word to use.

I just have a personal vendetta against Kotick and other suits who have infiltrated the industry and are out to fill their own pockets. I think he owes Call of Duty fans more than what they are getting.

If you don't feel that way then I sincerely hope you enjoy MW3.

What Activision is trying to do is CONVINCE people that no one plays on PC so that first time console-buyers will go to either the PS3 or Xbox... that means more money for Activision. (or any company for that matter)

[QUOTE="gearsofhalogeek"][QUOTE="Tresca_"]

That's fair enough. Didn't mean to have a go at you. Rehash wasn't the best word to use.

I just have a personal vendetta against Kotick and other suits who have infiltrated the industry and are out to fill their own pockets. I think he owes Call of Duty fans more than what they are getting.

If you don't feel that way then I sincerely hope you enjoy MW3.

DanielDust

it surprises me how a CEOwould totally disregard a market just because it's smaller than another. There's still a lot of PC gamers and a lot of money to be made. You figure they would at least compete. Maybe give CoD3 a special PC treatment as well in an attempt to win over more PC gamers to CoD3.Bobby obviously isn't interested in winning over any PC gamres.

well considering PC gamers shop smarter he knows that he can't rip us off every year with the game game. I would go as far to say that he doesnt even care about ps3 gamers and only 360 gamers because many 360 players are either 10 year old kids or very casual gamers who don't know they are being ripped off. Not to mention microsoft signed that deal with activision so they will get all map packs first and they advertise the the game as a 360 exclusiveand in return microsoft is hoping more people will play it on 360 and thus creating more live subscriptions.

[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"][QUOTE="Prexxus"] He did not bash Pc once in that interview...Prexxus

World of Warcraft. That is all.

When the reporter brings up the 6-11 demographic does anyone else think that he really wanted to say something along the lines of "yes many of our call of duty players range from 6-11 year olds and we make a fortune of them because not only do they whine until their parents buy them the next game but the parents are also paying for their xbox live membership as well as the map packs that we release" or something along those lines lol.

hes right though, call of duty is pretty much a console game while battlefield 3 is only going to be truly experienced on pc.

What Activision is trying to do is CONVINCE people that no one plays on PC so that first time console-buyers will go to either the PS3 or Xbox... that means more money for Activision. (or any company for that matter)

realguitarhero5