Complete Half Life Remake FOR FREE!

A lot of you may already know about this but the Black Mesa Dev Team from the modding community is coming out with a complete remake of Half Life 1 using the Source engine. The game is called Black Mesa and will be free. You need to own a Source game to play it. Release date is not confirmed but the devs said it will come out in 2009. A likely release date is November 19th since that was the release date of the original Half Life 1 game.

Follow the mod here. http://www.moddb.com/mods/black-mesa

For those unfamiliar with mods, theyre basically full games made using an existing engine. Counter-strike and Day of Defeat started out as free mods but went retail.

What, you think we are a bunch of pc gaming noobs here?

What, you think we are a bunch of pc gaming noobs here?

Qixote

What, you think we are a bunch of pc gaming noobs here?

Qixote

*For those unfamiliar with mods*

Ive asked many people if they knew about mods, and 8/10 didnt know what I was talking about. Not everyone on this forum has 9k posts and lives revolving around video games.

Not to be ungrateful, but I think everyone here is familiar with mods. And yeah, it's gonna be great when (if) it releases.

You actually think it's going to be fully free? Valve will almost 100% definitely make sure that the mod is unplayable unless you buy Half Life Source.kieranb2000

This. We'll HAVE to buy Half-Life: Source.

You actually think it's going to be fully free? Valve will almost 100% definitely make sure that the mod is unplayable unless you buy Half Life Source.kieranb2000

That is bs. Valve isnt going to have anything to do with this mod besides the hiring of the modders.

Not to be ungrateful, but I think everyone here is familiar with mods. And yeah, it's gonna be great when (if) it releases.

HenriH-42

And I can guarantee you lots of people dont know about mods. Unless a mod is put on Steam, only a small number of people will play it from the modding community.

[QUOTE="kieranb2000"]You actually think it's going to be fully free? Valve will almost 100% definitely make sure that the mod is unplayable unless you buy Half Life Source.Phoenix534

This. We'll HAVE to buy Half-Life: Source.

So you won't be able to play it if you only have Half Life 2?

Come on guys, there are lots of people reading this forum and not posting. Especially now, since it's a period of major releases.

Oh noez, he made a thread about an awesome mod! BURN HIM, LET'S RETURN TO OUR 40 BILLION CALL OF DUTY HATE THREADS!

[QUOTE="kieranb2000"]You actually think it's going to be fully free? Valve will almost 100% definitely make sure that the mod is unplayable unless you buy Half Life Source.Phoenix534

This. We'll HAVE to buy Half-Life: Source.

[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="kieranb2000"]You actually think it's going to be fully free? Valve will almost 100% definitely make sure that the mod is unplayable unless you buy Half Life Source.erglesmergle

This. We'll HAVE to buy Half-Life: Source.

Says who? The game doesnt even use anything from Half Life: Source. Are you talking out of your ass?

It says in the Faqs on the main website that you can play it if you have at least one of these games: http://store.steampowered.com/search/?adv=0&term=&category1=998&developer=&publisher=&category2=16&genre=&priceLow=&priceHigh=

Here is the FAQ: http://forums.blackmesasource.com/showthread.php?t=24

Isn't HL2: Deathmatch free for... like, every ATI and Nvidia user?

Isn't HL2: Deathmatch free for... like, every ATI and Nvidia user?

Baranga

What about those poor souls with Intel graphics cards? :cry:

Isn't HL2: Deathmatch free for... like, every ATI and Nvidia user?

Baranga

We're not idiots. So we know.

Couple of things people should know:

It needs a game with the source SDK (TF2, Portal, etc.)

It WILL be released over Steam.

It is approximately 6 or so gb uncompressed.

I think it be released on the same day as the original Half-Life (November 19th). Makes sense to me.

We're not idiots. So we know.

Couple of things people should know:

It needs a game with the source SDK (TF2, Portal, etc.)

It WILL be released over Steam.

It is approximately 6 or so gb uncompressed.

I think it be released on the same day as the original Half-Life (November 19th). Makes sense to me.

IbnLaAhad

That would be good if it's released then. I'll be busy with this, L4D 2, and Battlefield Bad company PS3 beta all in the same week.

If they do its a good thing i allready got my half life source

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

Isn't HL2: Deathmatch free for... like, every ATI and Nvidia user?

HenriH-42

What about those poor souls with Intel graphics cards? :cry:

They have to pay, just like ATI and Nvidia users...

While your at it, you should inform us that it is played with a mouse and keyboard, and tell us what a mouse and keyboard is, you know, in case some of us pc gamers don't know yet.

[QUOTE="kieranb2000"]You actually think it's going to be fully free? Valve will almost 100% definitely make sure that the mod is unplayable unless you buy Half Life Source.Phoenix534

This. We'll HAVE to buy Half-Life: Source.

complete utter bs. it will be just like any other free source mod.

[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="kieranb2000"]You actually think it's going to be fully free? Valve will almost 100% definitely make sure that the mod is unplayable unless you buy Half Life Source.DanielDust

This. We'll HAVE to buy Half-Life: Source.

[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="kieranb2000"]You actually think it's going to be fully free? Valve will almost 100% definitely make sure that the mod is unplayable unless you buy Half Life Source.True_Sounds

This. We'll HAVE to buy Half-Life: Source.

complete utter bs. it will be just like any other free source mod.

Half-Life remake mod? You mean there's a Half-Life 2?!

Come on guys, there are lots of people reading this forum and not posting. Especially now, since it's a period of major releases.

Oh noez, he made a thread about an awesome mod! BURN HIM, LET'S RETURN TO OUR 40 BILLION CALL OF DUTY HATE THREADS!

Baranga

[QUOTE="True_Sounds"]

[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

This. We'll HAVE to buy Half-Life: Source.

kieranb2000

complete utter bs. it will be just like any other free source mod.

If they want money then yes Valve will do something, will have to do because it's about copyright if they want to sell Valve "stuff" if not they (Valve) can't do a thing to stop them or change the way they want the game to be played, but so far they say it'll be free.

And HL:S is redundant, there's no way for it to be a requirement for the mod, 100% sure of it, IF they would sell it, all they can do is set a price to please both the "devs" and Valve, but to buy "specific" Valve games like HL:S...no way.

man a lot of you guys are some negative ungrateful losers. not everyone is a gaming nerd that knows everything about games. im just trying to inform those who dont know about mods. gtfo with your "everyone on this forum knows what mods are because were a bunch of gaming nerds" comments please.

man a lot of you guys are some negative ungrateful losers. not everyone is a gaming nerd that knows everything about games. im just trying to inform those who dont know about mods. gtfo with your "everyone on this forum knows what mods are because were a bunch of gaming nerds" comments please.

erglesmergle

We all know what mods are because anyone that plays anything on the PC knows what a mod is. Hell, more than half the console fanboys know what a mod is.

You actually think it's going to be fully free? Valve will almost 100% definitely make sure that the mod is unplayable unless you buy Half Life Source.kieranb2000

man a lot of you guys are some negative ungrateful losers. not everyone is a gaming nerd that knows everything about games. im just trying to inform those who dont know about mods. gtfo with your "everyone on this forum knows what mods are because were a bunch of gaming nerds" comments please.

erglesmergle

Most PC gamers are well aware of what mods are, especially PC gamers on this forum (or any gaming forum for that matter). It's kind of hard to post on this forum and not be aware of what a mod is considering that mods get talked about a lot on here. In fact, Black Mesa Source has been getting posted about on a regular basis ever since it was announced way back in 2004. Hence the reason people are mocking you right now. We've been very well aware of what BMS is for five years now.

[QUOTE="kieranb2000"]You actually think it's going to be fully free? Valve will almost 100% definitely make sure that the mod is unplayable unless you buy Half Life Source.Brendissimo35

[QUOTE="Brendissimo35"]

[QUOTE="kieranb2000"]You actually think it's going to be fully free? Valve will almost 100% definitely make sure that the mod is unplayable unless you buy Half Life Source.Nibroc420

We'll have to wait and see who's right, of course, but I've never known valve to act in that fashion, and such an act would be an unprecedented act of aggression towards modders everywhere from a very mod friendly dev. It wouldn't make sense on any level for valve to pull such a stunt.

From the looks of the mod so far. I wouldn't mind if I had to pay for it. People put hard work into it, its good, they deserve rewards. If it turns out as good as I think it will I wouldn't mind paying $50 for it. Of course though I would prefer it to be free and hope they who control this aren't reading this.

[QUOTE="Brendissimo35"]

[QUOTE="kieranb2000"]You actually think it's going to be fully free? Valve will almost 100% definitely make sure that the mod is unplayable unless you buy Half Life Source.Nibroc420

Dude, Valve has been on record since HL:S came out that they wouldn't interfere with a Half-Life remake. In fact, they encouraged modders to remake Half Life. Valve basically said that the reason they didn't put any effort into a Half-Life: Source is because it was just to get new players introduced to the HL universe before playing HL2, and that they were "sure" that the fans would create at least one remake by and for themselves without Valve needing to do anything.

Valve is one of the most mod friendly devs out there. They don't sue modders, they hire them (see: Team Fortress, Counterstrike, and Day of Defeat). Furthermore, this isn't the first time someone has made what is essentially a full game in the form of a mod for one of Valve's games. Portal: Prelude was released earlier this year and is essentially a free prequel to Portal (the mod is about the same size, if not larger, than the original game, and comes complete with a new plot and voice acting) and Valve didn't bat an eye.

It wouldn't make sense on any level for valve to pull such a stunt.Brendissimo35

You call it a stunt to want to prevent copying of an entire game, only with newer graphics? Valve does not endorse this "mod". There is a reason for that. I doubt that Valve actually would take drastic measures. But then again, nothing like this has ever happened before. This is more than a mod. It really is a remake of an entire game. It's less a mod than it is a re-imaging.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Brendissimo35"] Like any mod for any game, you will need to own a game built on the engine the mod was based on. Any source engine game will do. That's how mods work. However, Half Life source will not be a requirement.

Brendissimo35

We'll have to wait and see who's right, of course, but I've never known valve to act in that fashion, and such an act would be an unprecedented act of aggression towards modders everywhere from a very mod friendly dev. It wouldn't make sense on any level for valve to pull such a stunt.

[QUOTE="Brendissimo35"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Do you honestly think that if people went out and remade the EXACT game with better graphics, using Valve's new engine. That Valve wont go "Wait... hold on." and they'll just let it slide? Oooh, there goes... All of HL's potential sales, however small they may be. Not going to happen, Valve wont let this go... I bet that they just expect this mod to crash and burn, then valve can come along and make it.Nibroc420

We'll have to wait and see who's right, of course, but I've never known valve to act in that fashion, and such an act would be an unprecedented act of aggression towards modders everywhere from a very mod friendly dev. It wouldn't make sense on any level for valve to pull such a stunt.

First off, remaking an old game as a new one in a new engine as a mod is NOT a new phenomenon. I can only assume those who think otherwise are new to modding. Furthermore, if you charge money for a mod, it's not a mod anymore, by definition. So yes, blizzard would be pissed if you charged $5 a month for a WoW mod because it would be ILLEGAL.

Edit:

BM uses entirely new assets for most everything in the game. Sounds, models, textures, even voice acting. This is work they did for free, and it is high quality. However, even if a mod only changes minor portions of a game, it is completely legal and encouraged by most good devs as long as it is free and requires the original game to run.

[QUOTE="Brendissimo35"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Do you honestly think that if people went out and remade the EXACT game with better graphics, using Valve's new engine. That Valve wont go "Wait... hold on." and they'll just let it slide? Oooh, there goes... All of HL's potential sales, however small they may be. Not going to happen, Valve wont let this go... I bet that they just expect this mod to crash and burn, then valve can come along and make it.Nibroc420

We'll have to wait and see who's right, of course, but I've never known valve to act in that fashion, and such an act would be an unprecedented act of aggression towards modders everywhere from a very mod friendly dev. It wouldn't make sense on any level for valve to pull such a stunt.

First off, remaking an old game as a new one in a new engine as a mod is NOT a new phenomenon. Brendissimo35

Not to be ungrateful, but I think everyone here is familiar with mods. And yeah, it's gonna be great when (if) it releases.

HenriH-42

[QUOTE="Qixote"]

What, you think we are a bunch of pc gaming noobs here?

Frenzyd109

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Brendissimo35"]

We'll have to wait and see who's right, of course, but I've never known valve to act in that fashion, and such an act would be an unprecedented act of aggression towards modders everywhere from a very mod friendly dev. It wouldn't make sense on any level for valve to pull such a stunt.

zomglolcats

This. I guess it all depends on Valve at the time. If they're still managing to pump out sales of the original halflife, and at release of this mod their sales drop than they might say/do something. However if Valve sells maybe 1 or 2 copys a month i dont think they'll be concerned.

IMO, taking a game someone made, and then using their new engine to remake it and not paying any royalties must have legal consequences.