Crap performance on my new 4850 :(

I just ran 3DMark 06. Score of 9116. Breakdown:
SM 2: 4110
SM 3: 4790
CPU: 1850

My CPU is supposed to be great for overclocking but I have no idea how to overclock. Does anyone know of any good guides? I see a lot on the internet but they're all different.

I just ran 3DMark 06. Score of 9116. Breakdown:
SM 2: 4110
SM 3: 4790
CPU: 1850

My CPU is supposed to be great for overclocking but I have no idea how to overclock. Does anyone know of any good guides? I see a lot on the internet but they're all different.

zombiefruit

You should definitely overclock. If my CPU could overclock, I would be happy. You should be able to kick it up to 3.0ghz. That should significantly increase your performance.

According to what the guys said, your graphics card is doing it's job. So yeah, it's your CPU. Overclock that puppy.

[QUOTE="zombiefruit"]

I just ran 3DMark 06. Score of 9116. Breakdown:
SM 2: 4110
SM 3: 4790
CPU: 1850

My CPU is supposed to be great for overclocking but I have no idea how to overclock. Does anyone know of any good guides? I see a lot on the internet but they're all different.

Elann2008

You should definitely overclock. If my CPU could overclock, I would be happy. You should be able to kick it up to 3.0ghz. That should significantly increase your performance.

I grabbed the 9450 (2.66ghz) apparently, with exact same setup (motherboard, heatsink, ram etc.), I've heard I can get it to run at 3.2 - 3.4 ON AIR :D (zalman 9700 heatsink, asus rampage mobo)

[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="zombiefruit"]

I just ran 3DMark 06. Score of 9116. Breakdown:
SM 2: 4110
SM 3: 4790
CPU: 1850

My CPU is supposed to be great for overclocking but I have no idea how to overclock. Does anyone know of any good guides? I see a lot on the internet but they're all different.

kieran88

You should definitely overclock. If my CPU could overclock, I would be happy. You should be able to kick it up to 3.0ghz. That should significantly increase your performance.

I grabbed the 9450 (2.66ghz) apparently, with exact same setup (motherboard, heatsink, ram etc.), I've heard I can get it to run at 3.2 - 3.4 ON AIR :D (zalman 9700 heatsink, asus rampage mobo)

Yeah, no aftermarket or liquid cooling for my CPU :P

[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="zombiefruit"]

I just ran 3DMark 06. Score of 9116. Breakdown:
SM 2: 4110
SM 3: 4790
CPU: 1850

My CPU is supposed to be great for overclocking but I have no idea how to overclock. Does anyone know of any good guides? I see a lot on the internet but they're all different.

kieran88

You should definitely overclock. If my CPU could overclock, I would be happy. You should be able to kick it up to 3.0ghz. That should significantly increase your performance.

I grabbed the 9450 (2.66ghz) apparently, with exact same setup (motherboard, heatsink, ram etc.), I've heard I can get it to run at 3.2 - 3.4 ON AIR :D (zalman 9700 heatsink, asus rampage mobo)

That is one sweet setup you have there. I bet you're eating Crysis for breakfast. I cant wait for the setup, argh. :P I'm downloading 3Dmark06, defragmenting, and stupid windows is updating too... lol. I'll be able to post the 3Dmark within the hour. Hang tight.

I purchased the Tuniq Tower to go with my build. I heard it was a great heatsink. Read the reviews and it's pretty solid all-around. I'll probably kick it up to around 3.4 -3.5 with the Q9550.

Yeah, still waiting on that motherboard replacement tho' (monday should be good). I'll blog the results of my new build when it's finaly done (feel like I'm trying to make frankensteins monster here). Oh - just noticed, you hadn't done your windows updates? Because I've had that increase performance in games notably for me (my old pc has an x1900xtx).

Case sounds great man, I'm still using an old alienware case that was WAY ahead of its time. This will be like my 5th pc built in the case and it's still in practicaly new condition, great airflow etc. (bought it way back when I didn't know how to custom build).

Well with My Rig: Athlon X2 6000,2gb DDR2,XFX 8800GT EE, I get a 3dmark06 score of 10754, and I get an average of 45fps with Crysis. I Think its ATI card causing the trouble with Crysis. I what they say ATI are like buses their Big,Red and have bad drivers :P04dcarraher

I hope you're kidding :P Have you seen the benchmarks on this thing compared to nvidias range? It's literaly just crysis, which isn't even THAT great a game anyway.

Just ran the Crysis bench w/out custom config's an got an average of 39fps all on high at 1280x960.zombiefruit

yay :D

Just ran the Crysis bench w/out custom config's an got an average of 39fps all on high at 1280x960.zombiefruit

Thats alittle better, Keep on fiddling with it.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Well with My Rig: Athlon X2 6000,2gb DDR2,XFX 8800GT EE, I get a 3dmark06 score of 10754, and I get an average of 45fps with Crysis. I Think its ATI card causing the trouble with Crysis. I what they say ATI are like buses their Big,Red and have bad drivers :Pkieran88

I hope you're kidding :P Have you seen the benchmarks on this thing compared to nvidias range? It's literaly just crysis, which isn't even THAT great a game anyway.

Well of what Ive been reading the 4850 is pretty darn close to 8800GT depending on resolution.

[QUOTE="kieran88"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Well with My Rig: Athlon X2 6000,2gb DDR2,XFX 8800GT EE, I get a 3dmark06 score of 10754, and I get an average of 45fps with Crysis. I Think its ATI card causing the trouble with Crysis. I what they say ATI are like buses their Big,Red and have bad drivers :P04dcarraher

I hope you're kidding :P Have you seen the benchmarks on this thing compared to nvidias range? It's literaly just crysis, which isn't even THAT great a game anyway.

Well of what Ive been reading the 4850 is pretty darn close to 8800GT depending on resolution.

Sorry, I thought we were still talking about the 4870, me and Ellan got a little off topic there.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="kieran88"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Well with My Rig: Athlon X2 6000,2gb DDR2,XFX 8800GT EE, I get a 3dmark06 score of 10754, and I get an average of 45fps with Crysis. I Think its ATI card causing the trouble with Crysis. I what they say ATI are like buses their Big,Red and have bad drivers :Pkieran88

I hope you're kidding :P Have you seen the benchmarks on this thing compared to nvidias range? It's literaly just crysis, which isn't even THAT great a game anyway.

Well of what Ive been reading the 4850 is pretty darn close to 8800GT depending on resolution.

Sorry, I thought we were still talking about the 4870, me and Ellan got a little off topic there.

Yeah we did. lol. 3DMark 06 install wont run...What to do...

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="kieran88"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Well with My Rig: Athlon X2 6000,2gb DDR2,XFX 8800GT EE, I get a 3dmark06 score of 10754, and I get an average of 45fps with Crysis. I Think its ATI card causing the trouble with Crysis. I what they say ATI are like buses their Big,Red and have bad drivers :Pkieran88

I hope you're kidding :P Have you seen the benchmarks on this thing compared to nvidias range? It's literaly just crysis, which isn't even THAT great a game anyway.

Well of what Ive been reading the 4850 is pretty darn close to 8800GT depending on resolution.

Sorry, I thought we were still talking about the 4870, me and Ellan got a little off topic there.

I'm pretty sure the 4850 is supposed to be around 1/3 better than the 8800GT. Check Tom's hardware.

Weird. Try a reboot then re-run the installer.kieran88

Will do. brb.

[QUOTE="kieran88"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="kieran88"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Well with My Rig: Athlon X2 6000,2gb DDR2,XFX 8800GT EE, I get a 3dmark06 score of 10754, and I get an average of 45fps with Crysis. I Think its ATI card causing the trouble with Crysis. I what they say ATI are like buses their Big,Red and have bad drivers :Pzombiefruit

I hope you're kidding :P Have you seen the benchmarks on this thing compared to nvidias range? It's literaly just crysis, which isn't even THAT great a game anyway.

Well of what Ive been reading the 4850 is pretty darn close to 8800GT depending on resolution.

Sorry, I thought we were still talking about the 4870, me and Ellan got a little off topic there.

I'm pretty sure the 4850 is supposed to be around 1/3 better than the 8800GT. Check Tom's hardware.

Yeah I'm almost certain the 4850 is significantly better than the 8800GT too. Again, crysis is another matter.

Well heres some 3dmark06 benchs. I know these dont apply directly to certain games but 3dmark does give a general idea.

Personally I dont know what to tell you. I got the 4870, and got it Crossfired. I love it. Gets awsome performance and Crysis plays rather nice. I do believe firmly that your cpu has bottlenecked your card. I know I can run at 1280x960 all/high with no AA, 4xAA, 8xAA, and 16xAA and get all the same 50+ FPS score. At that resolution your so cpu bound that you really need a fast cpu to not get crap results.

I know i am on a 4870 and his is a 4850, and that i am CF while he is single. However getting 50+ FPS average at 1920x1200 in crysis isnt anything to scoff at with everything on high as well. In other games I do extremly well. I am sure if you had your cpu to 3ghz and reran you would notice a huge increase even with AA.

^ couldnt post other images because of tagging problem but they show pretty much the same thing.04dcarraher

Still not convinved. Every source I've heard up 'till this point stated otherwise. Not having a go, just a little confused now lol :D Anyway, I've got a HD4870. But for arguments sake, thanks for the comparison pic.

Personally I dont know what to tell you. I got the 4870, and got it Crossfired. I love it. Gets awsome performance and Crysis plays rather nice. I do believe firmly that your cpu has bottlenecked your card. I know I can run at 1280x960 all/high with no AA, 4xAA, 8xAA, and 16xAA and get all the same 50+ FPS score. At that resolution your so cpu bound that you really need a fast cpu to not get crap results.

I know i am on a 4870 and his is a 4850, and that i am CF while he is single. However getting 50+ FPS average at 1920x1200 in crysis isnt anything to scoff at with everything on high as well. In other games I do extremly well. I am sure if you had your cpu to 3ghz and reran you would notice a huge increase even with AA.

CreasianDevaili

Nice. So in crossfire, you can play Crysis on very high no AA? What's your FPS?

This source says HD4870 runs better than 9800GX2 in Crysis. Although I find it hard to believe. What do you guys think?

http://en.hardspell.com/doc/showcont.asp?news_id=3613

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]^ couldnt post other images because of tagging problem but they show pretty much the same thing.kieran88

Still not convinved. Every source I've heard up 'till this point stated otherwise. Not having a go, just a little confused now lol :D Anyway, I've got a HD4870. But for arguments sake, thanks for the comparison pic.

http://hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTUyNCw0LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA

That one says different. Is it huge? no. However it depends on your resolution as well. I had a 8800GT myself. I should know it's performance range and limitations.

[QUOTE="kieran88"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]^ couldnt post other images because of tagging problem but they show pretty much the same thing.CreasianDevaili

Still not convinved. Every source I've heard up 'till this point stated otherwise. Not having a go, just a little confused now lol :D Anyway, I've got a HD4870. But for arguments sake, thanks for the comparison pic.

http://hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTUyNCw0LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA

That one says different. Is it huge? no. However it depends on your resolution as well. I had a 8800GT myself. I should know it's performance range and limitations.

What's your FPS when you play Crysis, on very high? And what resolution? I would like to know because I plan to Crossfire and overclock.

[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"]

Personally I dont know what to tell you. I got the 4870, and got it Crossfired. I love it. Gets awsome performance and Crysis plays rather nice. I do believe firmly that your cpu has bottlenecked your card. I know I can run at 1280x960 all/high with no AA, 4xAA, 8xAA, and 16xAA and get all the same 50+ FPS score. At that resolution your so cpu bound that you really need a fast cpu to not get crap results.

I know i am on a 4870 and his is a 4850, and that i am CF while he is single. However getting 50+ FPS average at 1920x1200 in crysis isnt anything to scoff at with everything on high as well. In other games I do extremly well. I am sure if you had your cpu to 3ghz and reran you would notice a huge increase even with AA.

Elann2008

Nice. So in crossfire, you can play Crysis on very high no AA? What's your FPS?

Only done 1900x1200, which i just up to 1920x1200 because its so small of a increase, all on high with no AA and with AA. No AA its around 53FPS average in the demo. With 4xaa is around 34FPS in the demo. I will try the hack and see how very high does. Give me a few moments.

This source says HD4870 runs better than 9800GX2 in Crysis. Although I find it hard to believe. What do you guys think?

http://en.hardspell.com/doc/showcont.asp?news_id=3613

Elann2008

Nice :O If that's true, I'm HAPPY! My build will be slightly better than that one, if those are the expected results... dizzayum! :O

This source says HD4870 runs better than 9800GX2 in Crysis. Although I find it hard to believe. What do you guys think?

http://en.hardspell.com/doc/showcont.asp?news_id=3613

Elann2008

Doubt it, maxishine did a benchmark and the closest thing to a gx2 was the gtx 280. (in crysis)

It can be done! Here's Crysis running on Very High, with a single HD4870. So that's it, our CPU is bottlenecking like a turtle on crack.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nJzJrDs8ocU&fmt=18

[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"]

Personally I dont know what to tell you. I got the 4870, and got it Crossfired. I love it. Gets awsome performance and Crysis plays rather nice. I do believe firmly that your cpu has bottlenecked your card. I know I can run at 1280x960 all/high with no AA, 4xAA, 8xAA, and 16xAA and get all the same 50+ FPS score. At that resolution your so cpu bound that you really need a fast cpu to not get crap results.

I know i am on a 4870 and his is a 4850, and that i am CF while he is single. However getting 50+ FPS average at 1920x1200 in crysis isnt anything to scoff at with everything on high as well. In other games I do extremly well. I am sure if you had your cpu to 3ghz and reran you would notice a huge increase even with AA.

CreasianDevaili

Nice. So in crossfire, you can play Crysis on very high no AA? What's your FPS?

Only done 1900x1200, which i just up to 1920x1200 because its so small of a increase, all on high with no AA and with AA. No AA its around 53FPS average in the demo. With 4xaa is around 34FPS in the demo. I will try the hack and see how very high does. Give me a few moments.

Very nice. Thanks. :)

[QUOTE="Elann2008"]

This source says HD4870 runs better than 9800GX2 in Crysis. Although I find it hard to believe. What do you guys think?

http://en.hardspell.com/doc/showcont.asp?news_id=3613

beefdog

Doubt it, maxishine did a benchmark and the closest thing to a gx2 was the gtx 280. (in crysis)

That's what I've seen too. I like the 9800GX2 card but the only reason I would get it is to Quad SLi. As of right now, after all I just spent, I dont think I can afford $1000 for two 9800GX2s. :(

I'd like to post this again for those that might skip over it. Single HD4870 in action. Crysis Very High.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nJzJrDs8ocU&fmt=18

It can be done! :D

I'd like to post this again for those that might skip over it. Single HD4870 in action. Crysis Very High.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nJzJrDs8ocU&fmt=18

It can be done! :D

Elann2008

Man, stop teasing me. Can't wait for this motherboard to show up now lol.

I'd like to post this again for those that might skip over it. Single HD4870 in action. Crysis Very High.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nJzJrDs8ocU&fmt=18

It can be done! :D

Elann2008

This is making me wanna get one >.>

[QUOTE="Elann2008"]

I'd like to post this again for those that might skip over it. Single HD4870 in action. Crysis Very High.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nJzJrDs8ocU&fmt=18

It can be done! :D

beefdog

This is making me wanna get one >.>

You'd realy benefit from one, imo. (Guessing from the rest of your spec)

If that didnt reaffirm your decision on the 4870, this will. Read his specs and the settings he ran on towards the bottom of the first page. He's getting 45+ FPS on different settings, with just a single HD4870. Check it out.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nTp_5jpOJ2w

I take it all back, I'm keeping my HD4870 and Crossfire mobo. LOL. :P

I'd like to post this again for those that might skip over it. Single HD4870 in action. Crysis Very High.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nJzJrDs8ocU&fmt=18

It can be done! :D

Elann2008

Im sure it can my 9800gtx at 1680x1050 can run very high at alittle over 20 fps average.

[QUOTE="Elann2008"]

I'd like to post this again for those that might skip over it. Single HD4870 in action. Crysis Very High.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nJzJrDs8ocU&fmt=18

It can be done! :D

artiedeadat40

Im sure it can my 9800gtx at 1680x1050 can run very high at alittle over 20 fps average.

[QUOTE="Elann2008"]

I'd like to post this again for those that might skip over it. Single HD4870 in action. Crysis Very High.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nJzJrDs8ocU&fmt=18

It can be done! :D

artiedeadat40

Im sure it can my 9800gtx at 1680x1050 can run very high at alittle over 20 fps average.

Damn straight. And just imagine HD4870 in crossfire? Can someone say, SHWEEET? :P

If that didnt reaffirm your decision on the 4870, this will. Read his specs and the settings he ran on towards the bottom of the first page. He's getting 45+ FPS on different settings, with just a single HD4870. Check it out.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nTp_5jpOJ2w

I take it all back, I'm keeping my HD4870 and Crossfire mobo. LOL.

Make sure to check this one out. THen we should throw an HD4870 party! :P :D

If you have a CPU stock or overclocked at 3.0ghz or more, you can handle Crysis on very high, with only a single card. If you crossfire, you'll be in heaven.

If that didnt reaffirm your decision on the 4870, this will. Read his specs and the settings he ran on towards the bottom of the first page. He's getting 45+ FPS on different settings, with just a single HD4870. Check it out.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nTp_5jpOJ2w

I take it all back, I'm keeping my HD4870 and Crossfire mobo. LOL.

Make sure to check this one out. THen we should throw an HD4870 party! :P :D

If you have a CPU stock or overclocked at 3.0ghz or more, you can handle Crysis on very high, with only a single card. If you crossfire, you'll be in heaven.

Elann2008

I knew you'd change your mind. 4870 looks to be a phenomenal card :D WHERE THE HELL IS THIS DAMN MOTHERBOARD!!!!!! >:O lol /rant

[QUOTE="Elann2008"]

If that didnt reaffirm your decision on the 4870, this will. Read his specs and the settings he ran on towards the bottom of the first page. He's getting 45+ FPS on different settings, with just a single HD4870. Check it out.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nTp_5jpOJ2w

I take it all back, I'm keeping my HD4870 and Crossfire mobo. LOL.

Make sure to check this one out. THen we should throw an HD4870 party! :P :D

If you have a CPU stock or overclocked at 3.0ghz or more, you can handle Crysis on very high, with only a single card. If you crossfire, you'll be in heaven.

kieran88

I knew you'd change your mind. 4870 looks to be a phenomenal card :D WHERE THE HELL IS THIS DAMN MOTHERBOARD!!!!!! >:O lol /rant

LOL! Where's my CPU!!!!???? :lol:

It's so phenomenal, it hurts. :P So this only means, some of the benchmarks out there are inconsistent. These people on youtube with (not top of the line PCs) are getting incredible results. When you have a great CPU, it definitely goes a long way. :D

My new gtx260 should be here this week. I should see those numbers. Then I am going to use the evga stepup program to stepup my 9800gtx to another gtx260 for sli. I cant wait.