Crysis 2 backfired.. says Crytek...

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#51 KillerJuan77
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But the people who don't feel the same way as YOU are whiny and close minded...right?

Can't beat that argument.

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The problem with most of you guys is that you keep saying you didn't like the game yet you most of you still appear on Crysis 2 threads complaining about the same things over and over again. If anything you are wasting your time, spend on a thread of a game you like.

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#52 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]But the people who don't feel the same way as YOU are whiny and close minded...right?

Can't beat that argument.

KillerJuan77

The problem with most of you guys is that you keep saying you didn't like the game yet you most of you still appear on Crysis 2 threads complaining about the same things over and over again. If anything you are wasting your time, spend on a thread of a game you like.

I appreciate your concern, however people are allowed to post in threads about games they like and games they dislike... If anything you're not allowed to call people whiners and other names in said threads.
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#53 Ricardo41
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I thought the game looked great before the patch.. And I thought it was a great sequel.. That had its own strengths and weaknesses.. You know for the PC community constantly claiming they are not a bunch graphic whores.. We sure sounded like it (many people in these boards at least) when we began crying about Crysis 2 being dumbed down which seemed to be based all around graphics.. This was th main complaint I heard about this game.. Both Crysis's imo are great.. Crysis 1 had better open environments and varying environments.. Crysis 2 had a strong story and narative. Along with way better pacing.. sSubZerOo

There is always going to be a vocal minority of whiny pc fanbois who immediately cry foul as soon as a game is released on more than one platform.

Now Crytek has releaed a massive texture upgrade - and now the other whiny half is coming forward is coming forward to complain about how they can't run the upgrade on their lame rigs.

I don't see how the nanosuit has been "dumbed down". The thing works flawlessly, you can upgrade it, and it's a great asset in the urban environments. Armor and cloak at your fingertips, the rest "always on", when needed.

I mean, the nanosuit is a high tech weapon, it's supposed to be simple to use.

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#54 Mograine
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There is always going to be a vocal minority of whiny pc fanbois who immediately cry foul as soon as a game is released on more than one platform.

Now Crytek has releaed a massive texture upgrade - and now the other whiny half is coming forward is coming forward to complain about how they can't run the upgrade on their lame rigs.

I don't see how the nanosuit has been "dumbed down". The thing works flawlessly, you can upgrade it, and it's a great asset in the urban environments. Strength and cloak at your fingertips, the rest "always on", when needed.

I mean, the nanosuit is a high tech weapon, it's supposed to be simple to use.

Ricardo41

I guess that nuclear bombs, space shuttles and fighter jets are low tech codpieces, then.

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#55 Ricardo41
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[QUOTE="Ricardo41"]

There is always going to be a vocal minority of whiny pc fanbois who immediately cry foul as soon as a game is released on more than one platform.

Now Crytek has releaed a massive texture upgrade - and now the other whiny half is coming forward is coming forward to complain about how they can't run the upgrade on their lame rigs.

I don't see how the nanosuit has been "dumbed down". The thing works flawlessly, you can upgrade it, and it's a great asset in the urban environments. Strength and cloak at your fingertips, the rest "always on", when needed.

I mean, the nanosuit is a high tech weapon, it's supposed to be simple to use.

Mograine

I guess that nuclear bombs, space shuttles and fighter jets are low tech codpieces, then.

Last I checked, bombs, shuttles, and jets weren't actually videogames. Crysis2 is a videoGAME not a real time combat simulator.

The nanosuit is easy to use, flawlessly integrated, with a minimum of fuss, into the rest of the combat.

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#56 gmaster456
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Screw cyrtek. Before crysis 2 release they basically accused PC gamers of being pirates, gave us the finger and ran over to the console crowd, got rejected, and now they're stuck with nobody to turn to. Although it was a decent game, I wasn't very impressed especially after all the praise they got after the first 2 titles. I'd give it a 7.5. Theres still a number of things they need to fix Hint: Graphics aren't it. They made a horrible assumption thinking that just because they went multiplat they would be bringing in sales competing with the heavyweights of the genre. I have no problem with multiplats, but how crytek went about it was idiotic and dumb.

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#57 Mograine
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The problem with most of you guys is that you keep saying you didn't like the game yet you most of you still appear on Crysis 2 threads complaining about the same things over and over again. If anything you are wasting your time, spend on a thread of a game you like.

KillerJuan77

Makes sense.

A franchise whose first steps were some of the best FPSs of this generation because of its change from the current popular mechanics present in FPS tries to "appeal to a wider audience" by changing the things that made the first two games superb, and we're supposed to just stand by and act like everything is just fine.

If we don't, we get called "whiny kids" or similar crap.

I forgot it's because of negative feedback that some of the best games ever made were created, but I guess I just can't go against your solid hard logic.

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#58 Mograine
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Last I checked, bombs, shuttles, and jets weren't actually videogames. Crysis2 is a videoGAME not a real time combat simulator.

The nanosuit is easy to use, flawlessly integrated, with a minimum of fuss, into the rest of the combat.

Ricardo41

Then HURR DURR it's not a "high tech weapon" but a "game feature".

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#59 gmaster456
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[QUOTE="KillerJuan77"]

The problem with most of you guys is that you keep saying you didn't like the game yet you most of you still appear on Crysis 2 threads complaining about the same things over and over again. If anything you are wasting your time, spend on a thread of a game you like.

Mograine

Makes sense.

A franchise whose first steps were some of the best FPSs of this generation because of its change from the current popular mechanics present in FPS tries to "appeal to a wider audience" by changing the things that made the first two games superb, and we're supposed to just stand by and act like everything is just fine.

If we don't, we get called "whiny kids" or similar crap.

I forgot it's because of negative feedback that some of the best games ever made were created, but I guess I just can't go against your solid hard logic.

That was amazing :o

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#60 mrbojangles25
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lol the direction of the visuals were the least of their problems. Granted, it was a huge slap in the face to not be able to customize our settings (thank you Wasdie for your program!), but overall people didn't like Crysis 2 because of the gameplay.

I personally loved it, but Crysis 2 backfired because it was a port, and not a true multiplatform title. Sad but true.

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#61 Lach0121
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Developers always seem too concerned with appealing to a new/difference audience, with little concern for the audience they already built up. What they fail to realize is that it's a much better idea to attract players by creating a great original game - not a game that's purely trying to garner an audience by copying other games.KHAndAnime

I have to agree with this (not about crysis 2, but the point in general spreads widely across the entire gaming industry).. A great game will sell itself... (look at Crysis, Look at Metal Gear, Look at Battlefield and COD) yes they are all great games!

I have not played Crysis 2 (but I am definitely looking forward to it).. Beat the first, and will beat Warhead soon.

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]I thought the game looked great before the patch.. And I thought it was a great sequel.. That had its own strengths and weaknesses.. You know for the PC community constantly claiming they are not a bunch graphic whores.. We sure sounded like it (many people in these boards at least) when we began crying about Crysis 2 being dumbed down which seemed to be based all around graphics.. This was th main complaint I heard about this game.. Both Crysis's imo are great.. Crysis 1 had better open environments and varying environments.. Crysis 2 had a strong story and narative. Along with way better pacing.. KillerJuan77

Finally, a Gamespot user that's neither whiny or close minded. At least I feel that Crysis 2 is a much better game than 1 and Warhead.

Insulting every user that doesn't happen to share your point of view. Worst of the worst. The people that can't handle other opinions and so start trying to stifle it and whine about it themselves. People who aren't close minded can accept a different view like other people being able to enjoy Crysis 2 even if they don't.

I remember plenty of discussion about gameplay. Talk of graphics was only fueled when somebody made a thread claiming it was better than Crysis.

I didn't even buy the game at full price and I regret it, worst game I have played this year - IMO. Its a game where you can see all the great suff it had from the first but scaled back.

The problem with most of you guys is that you keep saying you didn't like the game yet you most of you still appear on Crysis 2 threads complaining about the same things over and over again. If anything you are wasting your time, spend on a thread of a game you like.

KillerJuan77

I bought it more recently so I won't be found talking about my experience of the game on Crysis 2 threads shortly after release or most of them actually.

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#63 skrat_01
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Finally, a Gamespot user that's neither whiny or close minded. At least I feel that Crysis 2 is a much better game than 1 and Warhead.

KillerJuan77

>Someone agree with your opinion
>Everyone else is whiny and closed minded.

Oh that's rich right there.

Yes it's not as if there are legitimate criticisms towards the game at all.

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#64 Sausageson
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Screw cyrtek. Before crysis 2 release they basically accused PC gamers of being pirates, gave us the finger and ran over to the console crowd, got rejected, and now they're stuck with nobody to turn to. Although it was a decent game, I wasn't very impressed especially after all the praise they got after the first 2 titles. I'd give it a 7.5. Theres still a number of things they need to fix Hint: Graphics aren't it. They made a horrible assumption thinking that just because they went multiplat they would be bringing in sales competing with the heavyweights of the genre. I have no problem with multiplats, but how crytek went about it was idiotic and dumb.

gmaster456

I have to agree with this

Crytek alienated their PC audience even before Crysis 2 footage by calling them pirates and saying how consoles would have been more profitable, also when Crysis 2 footage was shown it was a good looking game but nothing special; crysis is still the best looking game to date and really pushed the boundries in hardware, Crytek to make the visuals look good on consoles had to create small linear levels which was a shallow gameplay experience compared to Crysis 1, the MP was also downgraded as 32 player powerstruggle was replaced with a 4v4 deathmatch again probably due to the restrictions of consoles. It was just a bunch of things Crytek went wrong with mainly their attitude and the way they tried to appease console users. I honestly dont even think Crysis 1 was that great, sure the levels are huge and GFX are pretty but the shooting was kind of weak and it was very repitive, mods made it much better though

I say they deserved all that has happened to them, not because they went multiplatform but the way they treated their PC fanbase.

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#65 skrat_01
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Last I checked, bombs, shuttles, and jets weren't actually videogames. Crysis2 is a videoGAME not a real time combat simulator.

The nanosuit is easy to use, flawlessly integrated, with a minimum of fuss, into the rest of the combat.

Ricardo41
Yet it's a game that leans on real world logic. The nanosuit isn't flawless at all. It's far too capable at armour tanking with the shift in design focus to sticking behind cover, furthermore with the inclusion of the fast energy restoration upgrade. It doesn't help that enemies such as the Seth that make up a large portion of the game have a very low damage rate and spend more time bounding off the nearest object and running around than killing you. Furthermore there were other issues such as much less mobility (which was intentionally with the cover focus, armour use and much smaller levels and combat areas); You're now more of a brute that can cloak if you want to bypass or if things get hairy, which didn't help that there weren't many enemies that I found terribly challenging (the humans being better - they actually stood and keep shooting with good damage outputs). What was an improvement was the use of Q and E for function changing for most of the part, and the ledge grabbing and sliding. It was well implemented for sure, but the greater game design changes and shifts in the suit that reflect on them hardly make its integration 'flawless'.
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#66 KillerJuan77
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>Someone agree with your opinion
>Everyone else is whiny and closed minded.

Oh that's rich right there.

Yes it's not as if there are legitimate criticisms towards the game at all.skrat_01

The problem is that people feel like Crysis was a gigantic revolution when the game was a linear open world shooter with superpowers and destructible environments (Which weren't something that you would use in a fight, in the ammount of time it took you to destroy a tree to knock out a soldier you would be surrounded and that would actually be a kiss of death in harder difficulties) plus stealth ended up being the best tactic since using every other tactic would get you surrounded by enemies (Again, a kiss of death in hard difficulties).

Crysis 2 gets incredibly bashed because it decided to streamline something that was pretty much an unfocused game experience and they added a plot, an upgrade system, a fun and interesting plot, a buggy yet interesting MP mode, functional weapons and now it's pretty much the only game were DX11 is truly noticeable thanks to a fantastic implementation of tessellation and hundreds of new effects. Plus I kind of hate that you guys say it sucks when it's far from a bad game, want a bad game? Sniper Ghost Warrior fits that, Crysis 2 doesn't.

And yes, most of the users here just can't be pleased with ANYTHING, most of them complained about the "horrendous graphics" of DX9 Crysis 2 (Which isn't true as it looks better than 80-90% of the games out there), they get incredible graphics a few months later in the form of an optional patch and they say "IT'S TOO LATE" "CRYTEK SOLD OUT TO CONSOLES" "THE CAMPAIGN IS HORRIBLE NEVER TOUCHING IT AGAIN". How can most of you can be pleased? I think it's impossible.

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#67 edidili
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How can most of you can be pleased? I think it's impossible.

KillerJuan77

I don't know what's so hard for you to understand. Peoples keep on repeating the reasons over and over again and you still keep on asking the same question.

Crysis 2 was not a bad game, far from it. It just isn't Crysis which for me delivered the best single player experience in the fps genre.

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#68 deactivated-5e7f8a21de9dd
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Crysis 2 is not bad.

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#69 BattleSpectre
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I enjoyed Crysis 2 in a big way, i found it to be quite enjoyable and i can't understand the haters. The graphics were amazing hands down.

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#70 KHAndAnime
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]>Someone agree with your opinion
>Everyone else is whiny and closed minded.

Oh that's rich right there.

Yes it's not as if there are legitimate criticisms towards the game at all.KillerJuan77


How can most of you can be pleased? I think it's impossible.



It's easy actually. Just make a sequel that takes the original game and improves upon it. You know - like every other successful sequel...

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#71 deactivated-5ef52b89b6fd0
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I agree with killerjaun, I dont know if you guys have noticed but I used to be the only one saying those things here, now I have seen atleast 5 or 6. Hermits are really getting a bad rep, and its only getting worse.

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#72 KillerJuan77
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I agree with killerjaun, I dont know if you guys have noticed but I used to be the only one saying those things here, now I have seen atleast 5 or 6. Hermits are really getting a bad rep, and its only getting worse.

Advid-Gamer

So I'm not the only? FINALLY

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#73 deactivated-5ef52b89b6fd0
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[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

I agree with killerjaun, I dont know if you guys have noticed but I used to be the only one saying those things here, now I have seen atleast 5 or 6. Hermits are really getting a bad rep, and its only getting worse.

KillerJuan77

So I'm not the only? FINALLY

lol, you must have missed all the threads here where I was bashed by everyone for saying the same kind of things. Over the last 2 years I have seen a few people starting to say the exact same things, even wording it the same way, and it is always the same little grp of people defending each other so it is hard to argue, but people are starting to notice, I think a few pc gamers here are getting sick of the whining and bashing of almost every game released these days. Crysis2 is probley still being bashed because most people here cant run dx11 lol
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#74 KillerJuan77
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lol, you must have missed all the threads here where I was bashed by everyone for saying the same kind of things. Over the last 2 years I have seen a few people starting to say the exact same things, even wording it the same way, and it is always the same little grp of people defending each other so it is hard to argue, but people are starting to notice, I think a few pc gamers here are getting sick of the whining and bashing of almost every game released these days. Crysis2 is probley still being bashed because most people here cant run dx11 lolAdvid-Gamer

Yeah, I'm getting sick of it too, also, I hate that everything gets compared to COD, seriously -_-

As for people not being able to run DX11? I wouldn't be surprised, many people just don't want to upgrade lol.

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#75 deactivated-5ee322a396e26
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no quicksaves, linear levels, narrow consolised fov , a copy and paste failure for most shooters released these days

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#76 Elann2008
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With all due respect, I have been defending Crysis 2 since the QQ-ing and whining started about the graphics, the linear level design, and the whole C2 is not like the original Crysis. It took me a while to understand why people were complaining, because in my mind (at the time), it looked like a great game. Graphics are nice, detailed, the gameplay was solid throughout, and I actually liked the city environment since we get served with so many jungle level games like Just Cause 2, Crysis 1 and Warhead, Far Cry 1, etc.

Little did I know, that my feeling for Crysis 2 started to change when I started playing Crysis 1 again (after completing C2). I can now see why there are were and are so many complaints. I understand the arguments, 100%. This doesn't mean I'm saying Crysis 2 "sucks." It doesn't suck, but I did find it to be a little shallow or I should say, disappointing than its predecessors. Like I've said before, Crysis 2 isn't bad, just disappointing; not for its graphics either.

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#77 BattleSpectre
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With all due respect, I have been defending Crysis 2 since the QQ-ing and whining started about the graphics, the linear level design, and the whole C2 is not like the original Crysis. It took me a while to understand why people were complaining, because in my mind (at the time), it looked like a great game. Graphics are nice, detailed, the gameplay was solid throughout, and I actually liked the city environment since we get served with so many jungle level games like Just Cause 2, Crysis 1 and Warhead, Far Cry 1, etc.

Little did I know, that my feeling for Crysis 2 started to change when I started playing Crysis 1 again (after completing C2). I can now see why there are were and are so many complaints. I understand the arguments, 100%. This doesn't mean I'm saying Crysis 2 "sucks." It doesn't suck, but I did find it to be a little shallow or I should say, disappointing than its predecessors. Like I've said before, Crysis 2 isn't bad, just disappointing; not for its graphics either.

Elann2008

Damn, nicely said.

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#78 shane_orija
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If they had listened to fans in the first place..... It just doesn't feel like a Crytek game.
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Crysis 2 is simpl an empty shell of it's former game. Take all the good stuff and throw it out the window, make it a scripted cinematic corridor shooter with the worst sotryline this year and slap fancy tesselation it it...recipe for compalints right there. If I wanted a tech show and nothing more, I'd "play" 3dmark or something, but it even took Crytek months to deliver in that department

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#80 Ikuto_Tsukiyomi
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Crysis 2 is simpl an empty shell of it's former game. Take all the good stuff and throw it out the window, make it a scripted cinematic corridor shooter with the worst sotryline this year and slap fancy tesselation it it...recipe for compalints right there. If I wanted a tech show and nothing more, I'd "play" 3dmark or something, but it even took Crytek months to deliver in that department

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Shh don't disagree with them, they'll call you closed minded. :roll:

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#81 hartsickdiscipl
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]I thought the game looked great before the patch.. And I thought it was a great sequel.. That had its own strengths and weaknesses.. You know for the PC community constantly claiming they are not a bunch graphic whores.. We sure sounded like it (many people in these boards at least) when we began crying about Crysis 2 being dumbed down which seemed to be based all around graphics.. This was th main complaint I heard about this game.. Both Crysis's imo are great.. Crysis 1 had better open environments and varying environments.. Crysis 2 had a strong story and narative. Along with way better pacing.. KillerJuan77

Finally, a Gamespot user that's neither whiny or close minded. At least I feel that Crysis 2 is a much better game than 1 and Warhead.

Crysis 2 was a fun game, but it definitely wasn't as good as the original. It felt too restricted and guided, and the graphics were a step backwards from the rawness of CryEngine2.

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#82 Mograine
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I agree with killerjaun, I dont know if you guys have noticed but I used to be the only one saying those things here, now I have seen atleast 5 or 6. Hermits are really getting a bad rep, and its only getting worse.

Advid-Gamer

It not only sold LESS than expected but actually sold even less than its predecessor, despite being released on two more platforms, whose audience is highly enthustiastic about soulless, watered down shooters.

It's a common feeling that Crysis 2 just plain sucked compared to 1. Hermits are the only ones who actually have a clue of what went wrong.

But whatever floats your boat, I guess I am just close minded and you are the enlightened one.

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#83 Mograine
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lol, you must have missed all the threads here where I was bashed by everyone for saying the same kind of things. Over the last 2 years I have seen a few people starting to say the exact same things, even wording it the same way, and it is always the same little grp of people defending each other so it is hard to argue, but people are starting to notice, I think a few pc gamers here are getting sick of the whining and bashing of almost every game released these days. Crysis2 is probley still being bashed because most people here cant run dx11 lolAdvid-Gamer

I don't know how does the thing between your ears work, but I'm pretty sure in the rest of the world it dictates that things go like this:

Game is released => gets negative feedback => developers try to make the bad things better => next game has less flaws than the previous one

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#84 DanielDust
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2 months ago it sold over 2 million copies, sure it's mostly on consoles, barely sold on PC, but nobody cares, especially Crytek, if it managed to sell that much then I doubt they consider it a failure compared to Crysis 1, since it needed a lot of time to sell even 1 million. It would be naive to think that Crytek will somehow consider it bad and do better next time when sales were better on C2. C1 might be more fun but 2 is the better game, the editor will bring back the C1 fun.
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#85 DarkFadi
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crysis 2 sucked period.
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#86 Gooeykat
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More context would be helpful, doesn't sound like he's saying Crysis 2 was a huge mistake and sound like all he's referring to is the graphics, not the design.
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#87 Gooeykat
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[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="DanielDust"][QUOTE="lawlessx"] well if the game sells below expectations of the developers and publishers it's a failure in they're eyes.

Where? in the first month it received the "it sold well over our expectations"

They are expecting to sell 7mil. Last I heard (which was awhile ago), the game might not even sell better than the 1st Crysis. They were aiming for a 94 metacritic score too.

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#88 attirex
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Crysis 2 failed because Crytek threw out any originality and tried for a money-grab with the CoD formula (scripted action, narrow levels, etc). In the process, they abandoned what made the first game great (if not flawed). Lame. I hope they go bankrupt.
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#89 deactivated-5e7f8a21de9dd
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Crysis 2 failed because Crytek threw out any originality and tried for a money-grab with the CoD formula (scripted action, narrow levels, etc). In the process, they abandoned what made the first game great (if not flawed). Lame. I hope they go bankrupt. attirex
You know there were corridor shooters before Call of Duty... the only thing I saw blatantly stolen from CoD was the 3/5/7 Dogtag Rewards and the 3 tiers of perks from MP.
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#90 Swedish_Chef
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I didn't even know it came out... because it's not on steam.
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#91 deactivated-5e7f8a21de9dd
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I didn't even know it came out... because it's not on steam. Swedish_Chef
Uhhh maybe you should look for games elsewhere; there are great games that arent on Steam.
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#92 skrat_01
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The problem is that people feel like Crysis was a gigantic revolution when the game was a linear open world shooter with superpowers and destructible environments (Which weren't something that you would use in a fight, in the ammount of time it took you to destroy a tree to knock out a soldier you would be surrounded and that would actually be a kiss of death in harder difficulties) plus stealth ended up being the best tactic since using every other tactic would get you surrounded by enemies (Again, a kiss of death in hard difficulties).

Crysis 2 gets incredibly bashed because it decided to streamline something that was pretty much an unfocused game experience and they added a plot, an upgrade system, a fun and interesting plot, a buggy yet interesting MP mode, functional weapons and now it's pretty much the only game were DX11 is truly noticeable thanks to a fantastic implementation of tessellation and hundreds of new effects. Plus I kind of hate that you guys say it sucks when it's far from a bad game, want a bad game? Sniper Ghost Warrior fits that, Crysis 2 doesn't.

And yes, most of the users here just can't be pleased with ANYTHING, most of them complained about the "horrendous graphics" of DX9 Crysis 2 (Which isn't true as it looks better than 80-90% of the games out there), they get incredible graphics a few months later in the form of an optional patch and they say "IT'S TOO LATE" "CRYTEK SOLD OUT TO CONSOLES" "THE CAMPAIGN IS HORRIBLE NEVER TOUCHING IT AGAIN". How can most of you can be pleased? I think it's impossible.

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The major problem here is that there are plenty of reasons why people dislike Crysis 2, and the only way you're trying to dispute it, is by saying no one can be peleased. Despite plenty of reasons being thrown around in this very thread.

Crysis was an expansive, intracate, complex game, which for most of the part was an extension of Crytek's design from Far Cry. It worked very well, it got fans from this, and this design still stands out. It's not revolutionary, of course, but it's a rare game.

Crysis 2 was two steps back in this regard, surprisingly larger than the more conservative Warhead, and changed its direction, focus and target audience entirely, as well as changing the game structure, combat areas and player interaction within the space.


Of course people are going to be annoyed, that's blooming obvious.

People who feel let down are going to call it bad. People who were shocked with the multiplayer are going to call it bad. People tend to do that with anything, when it comes to polarising opinions.

That's the very nature of opinions.

Crysis 2 isn't a bad game, yes, however the vocal opposition towards it isn't surprising either; the game is full of legitimate faults that a variety of people can pick at.

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#93 skrat_01
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I think a few pc gamers here are getting sick of the whining and bashing of almost every game released these days.Advid-Gamer
I'm getting sick of gamers proclaiming legitimate criticism as 'bashing' or 'hating' that's apparently completely unfounded. Which is just as bad as the other group of fanboys "bashing" - both putting their fingers in their ears yelling. That's been more and more common.
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[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"] I think a few pc gamers here are getting sick of the whining and bashing of almost every game released these days.skrat_01
I'm getting sick of gamers proclaiming legitimate criticism as 'bashing' or 'hating' that's apparently completely unfounded. Which is just as bad as the other group of fanboys "bashing" - both putting their fingers in their ears yelling. That's been more and more common.

It would be fine if the criticism was just that, criticism. But you have people who havn't even touched the game going, "it sucks, they changed everything and I'm not buying it." You have others saying "its a crap game" without giving any feedback at all. That is not criticism, that is bashing. There is criticism no doubt, I have my own. The levels should have been more open, It should have had more freedom of movement and choice, there should have been prone, etc. But that aside, the game is not as bad as people are making it out to be. And that's the part that gets annoying.

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#95 edidili
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You have others saying "its a crap game" without giving any feedback at all.

marq4porsche

Maybe because they're tired of repeating themself over and over again and making a long list every time this topic appears?

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#96 marq4porsche
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[QUOTE="marq4porsche"]

You have others saying "its a crap game" without giving any feedback at all.

edidili

Maybe because they're tired of repeating themself over and over again and making a long list every time this topic appears?

This is a discussion, they have the option not to respond at all if they don't like the topic. And my post was a bit more than just that.

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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"] I think a few pc gamers here are getting sick of the whining and bashing of almost every game released these days.marq4porsche

I'm getting sick of gamers proclaiming legitimate criticism as 'bashing' or 'hating' that's apparently completely unfounded. Which is just as bad as the other group of fanboys "bashing" - both putting their fingers in their ears yelling. That's been more and more common.

It would be fine if the criticism was just that, criticism. But you have people who havn't even touched the game going, "it sucks, they changed everything and I'm not buying it." You have others saying "its a crap game" without giving any feedback at all. That is not criticism, that is bashing. There is criticism no doubt, I have my own. The levels should have been more open, It should have had more freedom of movement and choice, there should have been prone, etc. But that aside, the game is not as bad as people are making it out to be. And that's the part that gets annoying.

Dude the game came out months ago, people got tired of discussing the same things over and over again. Besides I'm tired of the same group throwing insults at people who don't see it their way, using words as "elitists" or "whiners"
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#98 DanielDust
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[QUOTE="marq4porsche"]

You have others saying "its a crap game" without giving any feedback at all.

edidili

Maybe because they're tired of repeating themself over and over again and making a long list every time this topic appears?

Why insist then? do they think, if they don't care, that others care for them not caring?
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#99 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="edidili"]

[QUOTE="marq4porsche"]

You have others saying "its a crap game" without giving any feedback at all.

DanielDust

Maybe because they're tired of repeating themself over and over again and making a long list every time this topic appears?

Why insist then? do they think, if they don't care, that others care for them not caring?

I don't really care, however it's really annoying calling people "whiners", "stuck in the past", "closed minded", when the critics and the majority of users prefer Crysis. They are in the minority here. They also can't accept the fact that some people really cared about Crysis , and big fans will certainly be displeased with a major directional shift.

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#100 marq4porsche
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[QUOTE="marq4porsche"]

[QUOTE="skrat_01"] I'm getting sick of gamers proclaiming legitimate criticism as 'bashing' or 'hating' that's apparently completely unfounded. Which is just as bad as the other group of fanboys "bashing" - both putting their fingers in their ears yelling. That's been more and more common.GeneralShowzer

It would be fine if the criticism was just that, criticism. But you have people who havn't even touched the game going, "it sucks, they changed everything and I'm not buying it." You have others saying "its a crap game" without giving any feedback at all. That is not criticism, that is bashing. There is criticism no doubt, I have my own. The levels should have been more open, It should have had more freedom of movement and choice, there should have been prone, etc. But that aside, the game is not as bad as people are making it out to be. And that's the part that gets annoying.

Dude the game came out months ago, people got tired of discussing the same things over and over again. Besides I'm tired of the same group throwing insults at people who don't see it their way, using words as "elitists" or "whiners"

Really, both sides need to stop insulting each other/the game and just get over it. It's a different game we get it. It's not C1 we get it. Fans are disappointed, we get it. But to come into every thread that has Crysis 2 in it's name and insult it over and over and over again is just getting tedius. Aren't you guys tired of it already???