Diablo 3 auction fees: 15% fee plus 15% for PayPal xfers....

http://www.gamespot.com/news/diablo-iii-auction-house-fees-global-play-revealed-6374435

Yippee?

The RMAH was never about the player making money and has always been about Blizzard monetizing these transactions for their own benefit.

The RMAH was never about the player making money and has always been about Blizzard monetizing these transactions for their own benefit.

-wildflower-

Shame on Blizzard! They must think they're a for-profit company that has a right for a profit!

Oh wait...

:roll:

They also didn't mention that the highest price for an item is 250 (euro - oh look, this bug still is here, no euro sign support)/$/etc, like anyone will actually get that kind of money, if the community will go crazy with the AH you might have the full end set and amazing weapons for 100 at most.

[QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

The RMAH was never about the player making money and has always been about Blizzard monetizing these transactions for their own benefit.

Cwagmire21

Shame on Blizzard! They must think they're a for-profit company that has a right for a profit!

Oh wait...

:roll:

Gordon Gekko had it all wrong. He added an extra vowel. Greed isn't good - it's god! I fully expected the shills and cultists to bow down, bend over, and support this. There is indeed a sucker born every minute. :P

15 percent for paypal, paypal is only 7

Time to grind to inferno as fast as I can to capitilize on this! :D

Nobody cares wildflower, only those that have nothing better to do (like you), hate it, a thing that they'll never come into contact it, and actually bother to talk about such things on forums.

The two kinds of people that will actually get to play Diablo 3, don't care enough to discuss RMAH, because one type doesn't care and the other that is going to actually sell something doesn't have to justify or talk about anything, however, both types will just enjoy the game while frustrated people that are not significant to the game/company will just continue to be frustrated and discuss among themselves how "X" the company "Y" is for doing something.

The RMAH was never about the player making money and has always been about Blizzard monetizing these transactions for their own benefit.

-wildflower-

It was also about protecting people who were going to buy from chinese gold farmers anyways.

They figured since they can't stop it, might as well make it secure and cash in on it. I don't blame them.

[QUOTE="Cwagmire21"]

[QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

The RMAH was never about the player making money and has always been about Blizzard monetizing these transactions for their own benefit.

-wildflower-

Shame on Blizzard! They must think they're a for-profit company that has a right for a profit!

Oh wait...

:roll:

Gordon Gekko had it all wrong. He added an extra vowel. Greed isn't good - it's god! I fully expected the shills and cultists to bow down, bend over, and support this. There is indeed a sucker born every minute. :P

Time to grind to inferno as fast as I can to capitilize on this! :D

ChubbyGuy40

I thought you were consolite

EDIT: Seems you are on SW at least

I thought you were consoliteAzatiS

...seriously? You must not read the forums very often. Just because I defend Nintendo doesn't make me a consolite.

It was also about protecting people who were going to buy from chinese gold farmers anyways.

They figured since they can't stop it, might as well make it secure and cash in on it. I don't blame them.Wasdie

Not all gold farmers are Chinese (I was modded once for saying that :D ) and with Blizzard and Paypal taking a 30% cut from each sale I can see a black market still existing and thriving. As a gold seller I can cut the AH price by 15%, still make more than I would "legally" selling, and the customer is still getting a savings.

[QUOTE="AzatiS"]I thought you were consoliteChubbyGuy40

...seriously?

People were going to pay to win anyways. The only difference is that instead of gold farmers making all the money the player and blizzard split the money.

People were going to pay to win anyways. The only difference is that instead of gold farmers making all the money the player and blizzard split the money.

Moriarity_

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]It was also about protecting people who were going to buy from chinese gold farmers anyways.

They figured since they can't stop it, might as well make it secure and cash in on it. I don't blame them.-wildflower-

Not all gold farmers are Chinese (I was modded once for saying that :D ) and with Blizzard and Paypal taking a 30% cut from each sale I can see a black market still existing and thriving. As a gold seller I can cut the AH price by 15%, still make more than I would "legally" selling, and the customer is still getting a savings.

I would rather take a 30% premium and be guaranteed a safe, successful transaction than jeapordizing my CC or worrying about my Paypal account from a gold farming 3rd party.

I think you overestimate the value of cheaper transactions when security is at risk.

Amazon takes around the same amount when I sell things on there site to

[QUOTE="Moriarity_"]

People were going to pay to win anyways. The only difference is that instead of gold farmers making all the money the player and blizzard split the money.

DanielDust

I think it is called a processing fee.

If this annoys you don't even look at what your bank might be charging you for accessing your own $$.

[QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

[QUOTE="Cwagmire21"]

Shame on Blizzard! They must think they're a for-profit company that has a right for a profit!

Oh wait...

:roll:

MBirdy88

Gordon Gekko had it all wrong. He added an extra vowel. Greed isn't good - it's god! I fully expected the shills and cultists to bow down, bend over, and support this. There is indeed a sucker born every minute. :P

Pretty much how I feel about it, I mean I expected blizzard and/or paypal to take some off the top of every RMAH sale completed. The thing I look at is this, I expect to get around 70-75% for anything I sale on the RMAH, anymore would be a bonus. Yes, I plan to be selling a few things on it. Prolly not buying from it though.

I would rather it be embraced, and made easier, as well as safer, rather than spend so much money on trying to stop it. At least more people benefit from this method, then trying to stop it all together, and end up wasting a bunch of money and developement time, on a game that is already taking forever lol.

A few LAW makers could learn from this ^^ as well, instead of blindly trying to censor, or prohibit, ban etc.

[QUOTE="Cwagmire21"]

[QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

The RMAH was never about the player making money and has always been about Blizzard monetizing these transactions for their own benefit.

-wildflower-

Shame on Blizzard! They must think they're a for-profit company that has a right for a profit!

Oh wait...

:roll:

Gordon Gekko had it all wrong. He added an extra vowel. Greed isn't good - it's god! I fully expected the shills and cultists to bow down, bend over, and support this. There is indeed a sucker born every minute. :P

I love when people bash companies because they want to make money. They aren't running a charity. If you don't like it, vote with your wallet.

[QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

The RMAH was never about the player making money and has always been about Blizzard monetizing these transactions for their own benefit.

Wasdie

It was also about protecting people who were going to buy from chinese gold farmers anyways.

They figured since they can't stop it, might as well make it secure and cash in on it. I don't blame them.

I never really thought about it that way. When you look at Diablo, the gameplay is certainly entertaining, but the best part of it is finding new loot. When you just buy your loot, you ruin that fun for yourself.Grodus5

It's always been like that, the best part of Diablo 2 was the economy. Only here on Gamespot Diablo 2 "was fine without it".

Goes to show how many of those who criticize the RMAH have a clue of why it is being implemented.

The RMAH was never about the player making money and has always been about Blizzard monetizing these transactions for their own benefit.

-wildflower-

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

The RMAH was never about the player making money and has always been about Blizzard monetizing these transactions for their own benefit.

Bruin1986

It was also about protecting people who were going to buy from chinese gold farmers anyways.

They figured since they can't stop it, might as well make it secure and cash in on it. I don't blame them.

True, and that's why until this very moment, I've never addressed anything you've had to say.

True, and that's why until this very moment, I've never addressed anything you've had to say.

-wildflower-

...you just did.

[QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

True, and that's why until this very moment, I've never addressed anything you've had to say.

N30F3N1X

...you just did.

Hence the, "...until this very moment..."

Reading comprehension is fun!

[QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

True, and that's why until this very moment, I've never addressed anything you've had to say.

N30F3N1X

...you just did.

Hence the, "...until this very moment..."

Reading comprehension is fun!

-wildflower-

And you're also criticizing something you know nothing of.

Comprehension is general is fun!

And you're also criticizing something you know nothing of.

N30F3N1X

And what would that be?

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

The RMAH was never about the player making money and has always been about Blizzard monetizing these transactions for their own benefit.

Bruin1986

It was also about protecting people who were going to buy from chinese gold farmers anyways.

They figured since they can't stop it, might as well make it secure and cash in on it. I don't blame them.

isnt it 1.00$ + 15% fee? I thought only stackables (crafting mats and such) are 15% + 15% paypal fee?

The RMAH was never about the player making money and has always been about Blizzard monetizing these transactions for their own benefit.

-wildflower-

It's more about shutting down the chinese goldfarming/runefarming websites.

Players are going to pay cash for their items.

This is exactly like prohibition ending.

[QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

The RMAH was never about the player making money and has always been about Blizzard monetizing these transactions for their own benefit.

GummiRaccoon

It's more about shutting down the chinese goldfarming/runefarming websites.

Players are going to pay cash for their items.

This is exactly like prohibition ending.

Really? Blizzard nickle-and-diming their customers in an effort to pinch out an even greater profit than they already are is now equivalent to ratifying the 21st Amendment of the U.S. Constitution? I'll give you this, Blizzard fans never fail to amaze me with their ability to rationalize everything that company does. Talk about making a silk purse from a sow's ear...

Next time, for an even greater impact, use the 13th Amendment. You could say Blizzard is freeing its people from the shackles of gold and item sellers. We shall overcome, indeed!

Really? Blizzard nickle-and-diming their customers in an effort to pinch out an even greater profit than they already are is now equivalent to ratifying the 21st Amendment of the U.S. Constitution? I'll give you this, Blizzard fans never fail to amaze me with their ability to rationalize everything that company does. Talk about making a silk purse from a sow's ear...

Next time, for an even greater impact, use the 13th Amendment. You could say Blizzard is freeing its people from the shackles of gold and item sellers. We shall overcome, indeed!

-wildflower-

I dont understand how this is nickle-and-diming.

[QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

The RMAH was never about the player making money and has always been about Blizzard monetizing these transactions for their own benefit.

Wasdie

It was also about protecting people who were going to buy from chinese gold farmers anyways.

They figured since they can't stop it, might as well make it secure and cash in on it. I don't blame them.

I've been saying this for months. I completely agree with what Blizzard is doing.

The hard counter to the RMAH : don't use it.

[QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

Really? Blizzard nickle-and-diming their customers in an effort to pinch out an even greater profit than they already are is now equivalent to ratifying the 21st Amendment of the U.S. Constitution? I'll give you this, Blizzard fans never fail to amaze me with their ability to rationalize everything that company does. Talk about making a silk purse from a sow's ear...

Next time, for an even greater impact, use the 13th Amendment. You could say Blizzard is freeing its people from the shackles of gold and item sellers. We shall overcome, indeed!

XaosII

I dont understand how this is nickle-and-diming.

You're right. That is a poor choice of words.

It's simply greed. I remember when EQ2 introduced a similar system, allowing real money for items on selected servers, and there was a huge outcry. WoW fans ridiculed SOE to no end. How quickly things change.

[QUOTE="XaosII"]

[QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

Really? Blizzard nickle-and-diming their customers in an effort to pinch out an even greater profit than they already are is now equivalent to ratifying the 21st Amendment of the U.S. Constitution? I'll give you this, Blizzard fans never fail to amaze me with their ability to rationalize everything that company does. Talk about making a silk purse from a sow's ear...

Next time, for an even greater impact, use the 13th Amendment. You could say Blizzard is freeing its people from the shackles of gold and item sellers. We shall overcome, indeed!

-wildflower-

I dont understand how this is nickle-and-diming.

You're right. That is a poor choice of words.

It's simply greed. I remember when EQ2 introduced a similar system, allowing real money for items on selected servers, and there was a huge outcry. WoW fans ridiculed SOE to no end. How quickly things change.

It called fanboyism and its better for you not get such people too serious.AzatiS

Yeah, I know, but he was correct - what I said was poorly phrased.

Pay 2 Win confirmed. Blizz fanboys celebrate!KHAndAnime