Did Modern warfare 2 flop on the pc? ....NOT!!!
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[QUOTE="dakan45"]
[QUOTE="emperorist91"]
Congratz matey , support a rubbish port , make fun of the community and keep being a mindless fanzombie.And to answer your question why it doesnt resemble the reality of the fanbase let me give you 2 reasons :1st.There are people like you , reactionary , diehard users who buy the game.
2nd.Most of the pc users arent interested in/cant have access to forums , community websites etc , hence the misinformation.(aka they got drifted by the hype)
your tone and sarcasm of your post disgust meemperorist91
I dont like your tone of hate too, all you proved is that more and more people are like me and less like you the so called "hardcore pc gamers"
Prove .. right...
Let me tell you something , to prove needs a logical sentence ;
Your response ignored my 2 points and went on to predicative remarks , gg
Why would i respond to someone who is acting like he is trying to annoy me and tell me that i am a fool because of what i do and what i support? I am the one who will choose what to support and i decide to be like everyone else and stick with the masses because unlike you i actally like the game.
In simple worlds you pretty much say to me :"you are another fool who bought the game, like those other people who cant even access the forums"
...and then you say i disgust you for what i do!!!:shock:
Well i am sorry but thats the reason 90% of games worldwide dont care what people like you say, because you try to annoy us by say things like : "you disgust me"
Like you are better than us and then think that you are a a pc gamer and so much better than people like me.
But to answer both your points:
a) if there are so many people like me who buy the game, then i guess they buy the game because they like the game and dont care what people like you say.
b) Thats because our opinions are diffirent than yours and we wont spend hours trying to explain that we buy the game because we want it. At the end people who bought the game are more than people who did not so with pure logic buyers>non buyers opinion because the opinion of the many always win.
Therefore boycotters and outcries of people who hated the game did not manage to change the tides. cod mw2 sucseed according to the article.
You can say that we disgust you as much as you want but that is not gonna change the fact that we have a more valid stance since we agree and outnumber those who dont agree.
Congratz matey , support a rubbish port , make fun of the community and keep being a mindless fanzombie.And to answer your question why it doesnt resemble the reality of the fanbase let me give you 2 reasons :1st.There are people like you , reactionary , diehard users who buy the game.
2nd.Most of the pc users arent interested in/cant have access to forums , community websites etc , hence the misinformation.(aka they got drifted by the hype)
your tone and sarcasm of your post disgust meemperorist91
rubbish port? bull.****.****
MW2 is an exelent port, I have seen rubish ports (gta 4, bully) MW2 certanly isn't one, the engine has great optimization, no crash issues so far, didn't run over any major bugs so far
it's a port yes, but since when the hell was that a bad thing?
3) Sales wise valve is good but they sell recycled hl2 games and l4d, they are no better than IW :lol: Also its STILL a small studio after all those earnings. Blizzard is printing money with wow so theyre is no point at making games more often.dakan45
IW=Only COD
Valve=TF2,L4d,CS,HL,Portal.
How L4d Is recycled game ?It was new IP by Valve.
Valve >IW at least imo
.Actually the opposite is true. If you want something to be done and changed you have to act on it. ACT! Not sit there and complain at them. Do something to make them notice you.Iantheone
ACT on it...go ahead, lets see what happens....NOTHING will happen i can guarantee... For example:
I agree that the situation is indeed getting worse but that doesn't mean I have to accept it and it certainly doesn't mean I will support it, especially at a jacked up price. By purchasing these hackneyed ports PC gamers are simply shooting themselves in the foot and I will simply never understand that.-wildflower-
Exactly the same thing happens for years, the situation is going from bad to worse, but no one is doing something that actually changes the situation, all thsoe years and ports are getting worse and worse at some point i dont think that its right to be sold. So my point is, its not only IW, its most devs out there who do the same thing with the ports Things are going from bad to worse and nothing is improving.
Therefore i dont believe that if we simply dont buy their games or complain, there will be a change.
I live for the day to see that we get good quality pc games but i dont see any actual way of that happening.
Quite the opposite i am afraid. Things are gonna get for bad to worse and if we dont buy then simply they are not gonna release games on pc.
If you think thats incorrect thet let me point out dead space. Not many people bought the game on pc for various reasons. So ea is thinking of not releasing a pc version for dead space 2. Now lets forget dead space and pick a cheaper mutliplatform game. What options does that game have if it does not make money on pc ?
To improve the quality of the pc version or not release a pc version?
As funny as it may sounds i believe there is a higher chance that they will improve pc products if we prove them that pc market is worth investing rather not buying them and make them believe that pc is non profitable platform or blame piracy :lol:
What we got to do is to prove that pc is mroe profitable than consoles so its worth to bother with the pc version and invest on pc game developing. But i dont see that happening especially with all that boycotting, so.....thats it, end of story.
[QUOTE="dakan45"]
1) you telling me jade empire and mass effect are not console focused?
2)For those dated and i mean dated graphics, the requirements are showing its an optimized game? Mass effect looked and run much better. Its bioware starting to neglecting the pc version from optimazation factor. I guess we cant include the port factor because its not a port. We all know they could make much better graphics/optimization for the pc version but they didnt. Because it wont be a sales factor.
3) Sales wise valve is good but they sell recycled hl2 games and l4d, they are no better than IW :lol: Also its STILL a small studio after all those earnings. Blizzard is printing money with wow so theyre is no point at making games more often.naval
1) Well, JE and ME were published by MS , so p\obviously they would be console focussed. Me is moe of action rpg rather than console focussed
2) It doesn't has dated graphics, tell me a name that looks quite better than DA :O in top down view (and runs nicely on all kinds of rig) . It runs nicely on even quite old hardwares , so how is it badly optimised
3) games Valve made from 2006, Ep 2, L4D (new IP ) , Portal (new IP) , TF 2 ( new game by Valve) and what has IW made till now - CoD , CoD and more CoD, so how are they same ?
1)Microsfot used to be a pc focused and based company.....ironic is it not? Even microsoft does not care about pc gaming. 2) The withcer, it came out before and it looks and runs beter. Infact objects such as furniture in oblivion do look better than some low qualirt texture objects in dragon age. 3) hl2, hl2 expansion much later after the release,hl2 expansion again much later than the release and a seuuel to a mod called tf2, plus a 3 hour bonus game called portal. IW made cod and cod2 full new sequel produtct, cod4 full new sequel product and then said "hey why dont we make a sequel like Advanced warfighter 2 and stalker clear sky and call it mw2?[QUOTE="dakan45"]
3) Sales wise valve is good but they sell recycled hl2 games and l4d, they are no better than IW :lol: Also its STILL a small studio after all those earnings. Blizzard is printing money with wow so theyre is no point at making games more often.badtaker
IW=Only COD
Valve=TF2,L4d,CS,HL,Portal.
How L4d Is recycled game ?It was new IP by Valve.
Valve >IW at least imo
I dont dissagree but those are not full product sequels or new games. I mean come on? Hl2 had small episodes. Portal was like a bonus mod and TF2 was a sequel to a mod. As for l4d it was mainly made because there were people playing counter strike zombie mods (As i heard from l4d commentary) Also for the content l4d had and the price it felt pretty weak. Plus the seuquel is exactly the same thing as mw2 in terms of recyclement.[QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="dakan45"]
1) you telling me jade empire and mass effect are not console focused?
2)For those dated and i mean dated graphics, the requirements are showing its an optimized game? Mass effect looked and run much better. Its bioware starting to neglecting the pc version from optimazation factor. I guess we cant include the port factor because its not a port. We all know they could make much better graphics/optimization for the pc version but they didnt. Because it wont be a sales factor.
3) Sales wise valve is good but they sell recycled hl2 games and l4d, they are no better than IW :lol: Also its STILL a small studio after all those earnings. Blizzard is printing money with wow so theyre is no point at making games more often.dakan45
1) Well, JE and ME were published by MS , so p\obviously they would be console focussed. Me is moe of action rpg rather than console focussed
2) It doesn't has dated graphics, tell me a name that looks quite better than DA :O in top down view (and runs nicely on all kinds of rig) . It runs nicely on even quite old hardwares , so how is it badly optimised
3) games Valve made from 2006, Ep 2, L4D (new IP ) , Portal (new IP) , TF 2 ( new game by Valve) and what has IW made till now - CoD , CoD and more CoD, so how are they same ?
1)Microsfot used to be a pc focused and based company.....ironic is it not? Even microsoft does not care about pc gaming. 2) The withcer, it came out before and it looks and runs beter. Infact objects such as furniture in oblivion do look better than some low qualirt texture objects in dragon age. 3) hl2, hl2 expansion much later after the release,hl2 expansion again much later than the release and a seuuel to a mod called tf2, plus a 3 hour bonus game called portal. IW made cod and cod2 full new sequel produtct, cod4 full new sequel product and then said "hey why dont we make a sequel like Advanced warfighter 2 and stalker clear sky and call it mw2? 1. When did MS stop being a PC focused company? Sure they made the 360, but very close to all of their company is dedicated to PC. 2. They all run on completely different engines. Some have beter graphics than others in some parts. 3. It was more than just a bit of extra story with each of their expansions. They released their new engines along with it so the community can creat new mods and such.Its not the people who bought that game that disgust me its you. You dont have your own opinion of what you want to buy or play. You bought and played MW2 and accepted it for what it is because you think thats the way it is and always will be. This is why I support community made content, because we can make the game what we want and play it how we want (Btw i was a mapper for CSS and ZM a few months back). You are just proving to me that you do not have the will to have your own thoughts and stand by them.IantheoneI have my own opinion, i like cod, i want cod and i will get it. Better without dedicated serves. Never liked clan anyway and cod4 was full of modded servers. I dont wanna platy mods or user created maps. I want to play the game and its easier and more prefable by everyone to play the standard developer created maps. As for the 60 bucks? As yantzee said, nowadays you have to spend 120 bucks buying crap games that you hopping you will like and you wil gladly pay as much money as they ask you for something you 100% gonna like.
[QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="dakan45"]
1) you telling me jade empire and mass effect are not console focused?
2)For those dated and i mean dated graphics, the requirements are showing its an optimized game? Mass effect looked and run much better. Its bioware starting to neglecting the pc version from optimazation factor. I guess we cant include the port factor because its not a port. We all know they could make much better graphics/optimization for the pc version but they didnt. Because it wont be a sales factor.
3) Sales wise valve is good but they sell recycled hl2 games and l4d, they are no better than IW :lol: Also its STILL a small studio after all those earnings. Blizzard is printing money with wow so theyre is no point at making games more often.dakan45
1) Well, JE and ME were published by MS , so p\obviously they would be console focussed. Me is moe of action rpg rather than console focussed
2) It doesn't has dated graphics, tell me a name that looks quite better than DA :O in top down view (and runs nicely on all kinds of rig) . It runs nicely on even quite old hardwares , so how is it badly optimised
3) games Valve made from 2006, Ep 2, L4D (new IP ) , Portal (new IP) , TF 2 ( new game by Valve) and what has IW made till now - CoD , CoD and more CoD, so how are they same ?
1)Microsfot used to be a pc focused and based company.....ironic is it not? Even microsoft does not care about pc gaming. 2) The withcer, it came out before and it looks and runs beter. Infact objects such as furniture in oblivion do look better than some low qualirt texture objects in dragon age. 3) hl2, hl2 expansion much later after the release,hl2 expansion again much later than the release and a seuuel to a mod called tf2, plus a 3 hour bonus game called portal. IW made cod and cod2 full new sequel produtct, cod4 full new sequel product and then said "hey why dont we make a sequel like Advanced warfighter 2 and stalker clear sky and call it mw2?1. MS have their own console, so what would they focus on ? how is it ironic ? Why would Ms care about Pc Gaming when they have their own console to cate to ? Are these simple things too difficult to think through ?
2. no witcher didn't look that better, from the top view Dragon Age looked much better. If not, then show pics of Wicther which you think surpasses dragon age. Oblivion is FP/TP ad looks crappy without the mods
3. Did you remember what you said earlier ? you talked about how Valve is rehashing stuff just like IW. But I showed that they have much larger variety than IW (who have only made CoD games) even if they are sequels or smaller games. Also, Both MW 1 and MW 2 play quite like the previous versions and are not really like GRAW or Stalker. So, once again, how is Valve rehashing like IW ?
[QUOTE="Iantheone"]Its not the people who bought that game that disgust me its you. You dont have your own opinion of what you want to buy or play. You bought and played MW2 and accepted it for what it is because you think thats the way it is and always will be. This is why I support community made content, because we can make the game what we want and play it how we want (Btw i was a mapper for CSS and ZM a few months back). You are just proving to me that you do not have the will to have your own thoughts and stand by them.dakan45I have my own opinion, i like cod, i want cod and i will get it. Better without dedicated serves. Never liked clan anyway and cod4 was full of modded servers. I dont wanna platy mods or user created maps. I want to play the game and its easier and more prefable by everyone to play the standard developer created maps. As for the 60 bucks? As yantzee said, nowadays you have to spend 120 bucks buying crap games that you hopping you will like and you wil gladly pay as much money as they ask you for something you 100% gonna like. Enjoy paying for extra maps and extra game modes :\ Not everyone has that much money to waste
[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="Iantheone"]Its not the people who bought that game that disgust me its you. You dont have your own opinion of what you want to buy or play. You bought and played MW2 and accepted it for what it is because you think thats the way it is and always will be. This is why I support community made content, because we can make the game what we want and play it how we want (Btw i was a mapper for CSS and ZM a few months back). You are just proving to me that you do not have the will to have your own thoughts and stand by them.IantheoneI have my own opinion, i like cod, i want cod and i will get it. Better without dedicated serves. Never liked clan anyway and cod4 was full of modded servers. I dont wanna platy mods or user created maps. I want to play the game and its easier and more prefable by everyone to play the standard developer created maps. As for the 60 bucks? As yantzee said, nowadays you have to spend 120 bucks buying crap games that you hopping you will like and you wil gladly pay as much money as they ask you for something you 100% gonna like. Enjoy paying for extra maps and extra game modes :\ Not everyone has that much money to waste I do, but i am not gonna buy them unless i like them, why to buy something i dont like even if the price is low ? Why to install something i dont like even if its free?
[QUOTE="Iantheone"]Its not the people who bought that game that disgust me its you. You dont have your own opinion of what you want to buy or play. You bought and played MW2 and accepted it for what it is because you think thats the way it is and always will beEnosh88
what?
Atleast i can be happy for once.:)[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]This is unfortunate.dakan45
Dakan, you are probably one of the most annoying trolls on these forums.
Also I'd like to see the ACTUAL sale records, I don't want to see a "news post" about it. I can make a news post and tell people it's acurate because I wrote it.
simardbrad
LOL i did not write the article, but anyway i guess you think i am a troll because i post that, but if biggest_losser posted it?
Anyway sorry for posting something you dont like, but how this is wrong? The pc gamers did bought the game didnt the? So i am a troll for being one of them and not one of those pc gamer wannabes in this forum who bash everything like its 100% right to do so? 8)
well i hope you are happy when activision decides to milk you even more:Activision's CFO told conferees that extracting more dough out of players, via charging for certain online play or features, is something we should expect.
Here's what Tom Tippl told the gathering:
It's definitely an aspiration that we see potential in, particularly as we look at different business models to monetize the online gameplay. There's good knowledge exchange happening between the Blizzard folks and our online guys.
We have great experience also on Call of Duty with the success we had on Xbox Live and PlayStation Network. A lot of that knowledge is getting actually built into the Battle.Net platform and the design of that. I think it's been mutually beneficial, and you should expect us to test and ultimately launch additional online monetization models of some of some of our biggest franchises like Call of Duty.
And now that you're red-faced and rushing to the comments to say no way in hell would you ever pay for this, Tippl reminds:
Our gamers are telling us there's lots of services and innovation they would like to see that they're not getting yet. From what we see so far, additional content, as well as all the services Blizzard is offering, is that there is demand from the core gamers to pay up for that.
So, got that? He says practically demanding to pay up. So pay up!
and another thing hasnt COD 4 sold millions on pc already.. how could of MW2 beat it already when its doing worse
Modern Warfare 2: U.K. PC Sales Lagging Way Behind
-1.78 million copies sold in the U.K., but of those only 53,400 (3%) are in the hands of PC gamers, making Modern Warfare 2 PC a pretty dismal failure:
As expected, the Xbox 360 version was the best seller with over one million sales on its own and GBP 38.5 million in revenues, a number which was also more than last week's entire total for the UK games market.Only the controversial PC version of the game could be considered a disappointment, entering at only number five in the individual formats chart. The PC version accounted for just three per cent of overall sales, compared to 57 per cent for the 360 and 40 per cent for the PlayStation 3.
Using these percentages, PlayStation 3 sales can be estimated at 712,000 units (with GBP 27 million in revenues) and the PC at 53,400 units.
http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/51467/Modern-Warfare-2-U-K-PC-Sales-Lagging-Way-Behind/
So you are saying gs articles are wrong but ign are right? :lol: yeah ok i will just ignore you from now on.what are you talking about..i never once mentioned ign :roll:atleast try to read first..obvious troll is obvious .. since you cant come back with a rebuttal u dodge the facts i posted and you resort to typicall troll behavior:|[QUOTE="devious742"]stuff dakan45
[QUOTE="Iantheone"][QUOTE="dakan45"] I do, but i am not gonna buy them unless i like them, why to buy something i dont like even if the price is low ? Why to install something i dont like even if its free?dakan45Haha, how will you know if you like them or not? And im sorry, but you cannot compare MW2 to the HL series. The expansions are not sequels, they are expansions! Also with the episode they did much more than just release the expansion, they made a few other games, TF2 and Portal. They spend more time developing their engine than they do making a game. They rely on the community to do what they want with the game. IW on the otherhand have used the same engine since MW1. Simply by taking a look at those maps at the youtube, As for hl2, what moneyspending on the engine are you referring too? They still use the pretty dated source engine with the same stuttering issue since 2004, they fixed nothing.
So you have the stutter problem for all Source games now...you said that about HL 2, nothing else, so I kinda doubt you're not just trolling around here about Valve.
Also, making good games takes time, yeah I know, I didn't believe it too, but man, they just said it on the news...
Source is a good engine and Valve doesn't "rehash" games, that is if you actually play their games and you don't start to talk about how they stutter, they suck, they're just more mods of the same game, etc.
Oh and BTW, I read that the TC (which ironically is you) said something about MW2 in the title, so why did you change the subject, are you looking for arguments in other places that you aren't supposed to, because doing so will make you look like you just have no idea about what you previously said?
About the actual topic...good for them, next maybe they'll make CoD for PC too (IW, I don't care about CoD "7" or any other Treyarch CoD).
So you are saying gs articles are wrong but ign are right? :lol: yeah ok i will just ignore you from now on.what are you talking about..i never once mentioned ign :roll:atleast try to read first..obvious troll is obvious .. since you cant come back with a rebuttal u dodge the facts i posted and you resort to typicall troll behavior:|[QUOTE="dakan45"]
[QUOTE="devious742"]stuff devious742
No i am "boycotting" your posts :lol:
what are you talking about..i never once mentioned ign :roll:atleast try to read first..obvious troll is obvious .. since you cant come back with a rebuttal u dodge the facts i posted and you resort to typicall troll behavior:|[QUOTE="devious742"]
[QUOTE="dakan45"] So you are saying gs articles are wrong but ign are right? :lol: yeah ok i will just ignore you from now on.
dakan45
No i am "boycotting" your posts :lol:
i guess those links and facts i posted really hurt you...:D[QUOTE="dakan45"]
[QUOTE="devious742"] what are you talking about..i never once mentioned ign :roll:atleast try to read first..obvious troll is obvious .. since you cant come back with a rebuttal u dodge the facts i posted and you resort to typicall troll behavior:|devious742
No i am "boycotting" your posts :lol:
i guess those links and facts i posted really hurt you...:D No i just think that those "facts" are incorrect like you think about mine so i boycott from now on.I dont guide the conversation, it was lead to hl2, so i do believe valve and hl2 is highly overated and i cant see how you guys dont see it. They take ages to make a game and i highly doubt that its good. They have not done any visible technological improvements in all those years. They still using the dated source engine and develop dated games. I do believe they rehash, by making more and more episodes instead of hl3 they rehash all the time. So for me IW>Valve. ...and thats what i think, if you want you can pull the conversation towards hl2 like you did or simply focus on cod. So why dont you post only about cod..... but wait a minute i have no idea what you just said. Did you say that you dont care about IW or cod7 or treyarch? Since you have nothing to say about the discussion then why do you post?dakan45
I did post something about the thread ;) read again. I said I do not care about Treyarch COD, so I'm still waiting for the great IW CoDs and since they got so many sales on PC, I hope they'll consider making a PC version next time.
Also, I have to correct you there, until two days ago I never liked HL 2, at all. You hear about the FOV problem, which I also had with it, but surprisingly it was the horrible sounds (even tho the actual soundtrack is great). The only way to enjoy HL 2 in my case is to listen to some music while I play it, but it's quite enjoyable. The game was really a surprise, not because it's the perfect game everyone makes it out to be, it was a surprise because it's FULL of glitches, but maybe that's a Win 7 problem.
If Dedicated servers were there then it would be a different story....
I dont guide the conversation, it was lead to hl2, so i do believe valve and hl2 is highly overated and i cant see how you guys dont see it. They take ages to make a game and i highly doubt that its good. They have not done any visible technological improvements in all those years. They still using the dated source engine and develop dated games. I do believe they rehash, by making more and more episodes instead of hl3 they rehash all the time. So for me IW>Valve. ...and thats what i think, if you want you can pull the conversation towards hl2 like you did or simply focus on cod. So why dont you post only about cod..... but wait a minute i have no idea what you just said. Did you say that you dont care about IW or cod7 or treyarch? Since you have nothing to say about the discussion then why do you post?dakan45seriously, how can anyone take this guy seriously? according to you a good developer make games annually,and the games are obliged to have good graphics? you dont appreciate the art style of a game and how well it performs; have fun with the new madden of fps :)
[QUOTE="dakan45"] I dont guide the conversation, it was lead to hl2, so i do believe valve and hl2 is highly overated and i cant see how you guys dont see it. They take ages to make a game and i highly doubt that its good. They have not done any visible technological improvements in all those years. They still using the dated source engine and develop dated games. I do believe they rehash, by making more and more episodes instead of hl3 they rehash all the time. So for me IW>Valve. ...and thats what i think, if you want you can pull the conversation towards hl2 like you did or simply focus on cod. So why dont you post only about cod..... but wait a minute i have no idea what you just said. Did you say that you dont care about IW or cod7 or treyarch? Since you have nothing to say about the discussion then why do you post?DanielDust
I did post something about the thread ;) read again. I said I do not care about Treyarch COD, so I'm still waiting for the great IW CoDs and since they got so many sales on PC, I hope they'll consider making a PC version next time.
Also, I have to correct you there, until two days ago I never liked HL 2, at all. You hear about the FOV problem, which I also had with it, but surprisingly it was the horrible sounds (even tho the actual soundtrack is great). The only way to enjoy HL 2 in my case is to listen to some music while I play it, but it's quite enjoyable. The game was really a surprise, not because it's the perfect game everyone makes it out to be, it was a surprise because it's FULL of glitches, but maybe that's a Win 7 problem.
What kinds of glitches? Ive had the game since 2004 and i never experienced any game breaking glitchesSo you have never even played HL2? You cant judge a game on its graphics. I would prefer that a developer spends time making a good game rather than churning the same thing out every single year!Iantheone
:shock" But hl2 IS THE SAME THING EVERY YEAR...actually make that every 2 years.
Look cod games are improved from the previous, hl2 is not, its the same/graphics/physics/ai/story and it continues with more levels FOREVER....seriously not even 1 single new weapon in those expansions.
Oh and i dont think its good, infact i think its borring and not a worthy sequel to half life, atleast in episode 1 and 2 they learned how to add more action than puzzles.
Fps gameplay is extremely easy and simple, i cant believe pc gamers like so simple games (Its like playing a console game)
There is no lean and there was no multiplayer when hl2 came out to begin with.
So what we are comparing here anyway? I dont wanna see any company becoming like valve and continuing the same game every 2 years without any visible improvements or extra features/content like a new weapon or a new gameplay feature.
[QUOTE="devious742"]i guess those links and facts i posted really hurt you...:D No i just think that those "facts" are incorrect like you think about mine so i boycott from now on.can you explain how the things i posted are incorrect and i never said i dont agree with it..AND! gamespot isnt saying that MW2 BEST seller of all time..if u actually read the news.. it was bowling who said "Modern Warfare 2 PC first-week sales top predecessor" In a post on the developer's official forums, community manager Robert "fourzerotwo" Bowling revealed that, "The PC version of Modern Warfare 2 has actually outsold the PC version of Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare in its [sic] first week. Making it the most successful PC version." Bowling's note about the sales came in a thread claiming the PC version to be a flop because it only accounted for roughly 3 percent of all Modern Warfare 2 sales in the UK. The community manager addressed the figure, saying it was evidence not of a PC flop, but rather overwhelming success of the console editions of the game. and yet ppl are saying that bowling might be making it up since the numbers dont add up.. then after someone posted this..bowling got quiet:[QUOTE="dakan45"]
No i am "boycotting" your posts :lol:
dakan45
Funny because my math comes up with this...
7 million copies sold for MW2 3% of that number is 210,000 units
9 million copies sold in the first 3 months of MW 15% of that number is 1,050,000 units
13 million copies of MW sold to date 15% of that number is 1,950,000 units
So how is it Robert, that MW2 has outsold MW on the PC platform?
and here just for fun :)
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/easy-victory-for-modern-warfare-2-in-uk-charts
GfK Chart-Track has confirmed that the game has recorded by far the biggest launch of any game ever in the UK, generating GBP 67.4 million in revenues. The results dwarf the second highest selling title: Grand Theft Auto IV with 927,000 units and GBP 39.9 million in revenues.
This figure is also more than twice the amount of the entire UK entertainment software market last week. As expected, the Xbox 360 version was the best seller with over one million sales on its own and GBP 38.5 million in revenues, a number which was also more than last week's entire total for the UK games market.
Only the controversial PC version of the game could be considered a disappointment, entering at only number five in the individual formats chart. The PC version accounted for just three per cent of overall sales, compared to 57 per cent for the 360 and 40 per cent for the PlayStation 3.
Using these percentages, PlayStation 3 sales can be estimated at 712,000 units (with GBP 27 million in revenues) and the PC at 53,400 units.
seriously, how can anyone take this guy seriously? according to you a good developer make games annually,and the games are obliged to have good graphics? you dont appreciate the art style of a game and how well it performs; have fun with the new madden of fps :) How can i take you seriously with that kind of invalid posts ?:( For example. i dont think art style is nice because i dont care about art style but actul graphics. Also i do value how a game perfoms. But hl2 is extremely dated. You making it sound like everyone has a 3.2 single core cpu and 7500 gt and valve is waiting for those people to get a better pc in order to upgrade their graphics engine.[QUOTE="dakan45"] I dont guide the conversation, it was lead to hl2, so i do believe valve and hl2 is highly overated and i cant see how you guys dont see it. They take ages to make a game and i highly doubt that its good. They have not done any visible technological improvements in all those years. They still using the dated source engine and develop dated games. I do believe they rehash, by making more and more episodes instead of hl3 they rehash all the time. So for me IW>Valve. ...and thats what i think, if you want you can pull the conversation towards hl2 like you did or simply focus on cod. So why dont you post only about cod..... but wait a minute i have no idea what you just said. Did you say that you dont care about IW or cod7 or treyarch? Since you have nothing to say about the discussion then why do you post?Dante2710
[QUOTE="Iantheone"]So you have never even played HL2? You cant judge a game on its graphics. I would prefer that a developer spends time making a good game rather than churning the same thing out every single year!dakan45:shock" But hl2 IS THE SAME THING EVERY YEAR...actually make that every 2 years. Look cod games are improved from the previous, hl2 is not, its the same/graphics/physics/ai/story and it continues with more levels FOREVER....seriously not even 1 single new weapon in those expansions. Oh and i dont think its good, infact i think its borring and not a worthy sequel to half life, atleast in episode 1 and 2 they learned how to add more action than puzzles. Fps gameplay is extremely easy and simple, i cant believe pc gamers like so simple games (Its like playing a console game) There is no lean and there was no multiplayer when hl2 came out to begin with. So what we are comparing here anyway? I dont wanna see any company becoming like valve and continuing the same game every 2 years without any visivle improvements or extra features/content like a new weapon or a new gameplay feature. Ok wow, you must be a troll. We are not comparing the individual games, we ar comparing the quality of the games each developer has released.
[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="Iantheone"]So you have never even played HL2? You cant judge a game on its graphics. I would prefer that a developer spends time making a good game rather than churning the same thing out every single year!Iantheone:shock" But hl2 IS THE SAME THING EVERY YEAR...actually make that every 2 years. Look cod games are improved from the previous, hl2 is not, its the same/graphics/physics/ai/story and it continues with more levels FOREVER....seriously not even 1 single new weapon in those expansions. Oh and i dont think its good, infact i think its borring and not a worthy sequel to half life, atleast in episode 1 and 2 they learned how to add more action than puzzles. Fps gameplay is extremely easy and simple, i cant believe pc gamers like so simple games (Its like playing a console game) There is no lean and there was no multiplayer when hl2 came out to begin with. So what we are comparing here anyway? I dont wanna see any company becoming like valve and continuing the same game every 2 years without any visivle improvements or extra features/content like a new weapon or a new gameplay feature. Ok wow, you must be a troll. We are not comparing the individual games, we ar comparing the quality of the games each developer has released. I am a troll? I think the quality of hl2 is average, by gameplay? I dont like it, infact i think its borring. By graphics/technology/fps gameplay/ai its pretty datted. So quality wise i cant really say that hl2 is anything amazing. Thats all i got to say.
[QUOTE="Dante2710"]seriously, how can anyone take this guy seriously? according to you a good developer make games annually,and the games are obliged to have good graphics? you dont appreciate the art style of a game and how well it performs; have fun with the new madden of fps :) How can i take you seriously with that kind of invalid posts ?:( For example. i dont think art style is nice because i dont care about art style but actul graphics. Also i do value how a game perfoms. But hl2 is extremely dated. You making it sound like everyone has a 3.2 single core cpu and 7500 gt and valve is waiting for those people to get a better pc in order to upgrade their graphics engine. Sorry to tell you, but most people still do. With the Steam stats thing about 40% of their market still uses single cores. Also why do they need a new graphics engine? It has the best physics of any game and the best animation.[QUOTE="dakan45"] I dont guide the conversation, it was lead to hl2, so i do believe valve and hl2 is highly overated and i cant see how you guys dont see it. They take ages to make a game and i highly doubt that its good. They have not done any visible technological improvements in all those years. They still using the dated source engine and develop dated games. I do believe they rehash, by making more and more episodes instead of hl3 they rehash all the time. So for me IW>Valve. ...and thats what i think, if you want you can pull the conversation towards hl2 like you did or simply focus on cod. So why dont you post only about cod..... but wait a minute i have no idea what you just said. Did you say that you dont care about IW or cod7 or treyarch? Since you have nothing to say about the discussion then why do you post?dakan45
[QUOTE="DanielDust"][QUOTE="dakan45"] I dont guide the conversation, it was lead to hl2, so i do believe valve and hl2 is highly overated and i cant see how you guys dont see it. They take ages to make a game and i highly doubt that its good. They have not done any visible technological improvements in all those years. They still using the dated source engine and develop dated games. I do believe they rehash, by making more and more episodes instead of hl3 they rehash all the time. So for me IW>Valve. ...and thats what i think, if you want you can pull the conversation towards hl2 like you did or simply focus on cod. So why dont you post only about cod..... but wait a minute i have no idea what you just said. Did you say that you dont care about IW or cod7 or treyarch? Since you have nothing to say about the discussion then why do you post?Iantheone
I did post something about the thread ;) read again. I said I do not care about Treyarch COD, so I'm still waiting for the great IW CoDs and since they got so many sales on PC, I hope they'll consider making a PC version next time.
Also, I have to correct you there, until two days ago I never liked HL 2, at all. You hear about the FOV problem, which I also had with it, but surprisingly it was the horrible sounds (even tho the actual soundtrack is great). The only way to enjoy HL 2 in my case is to listen to some music while I play it, but it's quite enjoyable. The game was really a surprise, not because it's the perfect game everyone makes it out to be, it was a surprise because it's FULL of glitches, but maybe that's a Win 7 problem.
What kinds of glitches? Ive had the game since 2004 and i never experienced any game breaking glitches Well this'll be completely offtopic since it's only about HL 2 but,...when you start and exit the train station, you see some pigeons that are supposed to rise towards the sky, well, they were grinding the pavement and they hit me o_0, I died, then they teleported on the normal route; shooting some combine in the leg and he'd fall like I shot his head and other ragdoll glitches; getting stuck in some boxes, even after I destroyed them; there was a zombie that I couldn't kill, I shot him more than 20 times in the head and other prop glitches.Sorry to tell you, but most people still do. With the Steam stats thing about 40% of their market still uses single cores. Also why do they need a new graphics engine? It has the best physics of any game and the best animation.IantheoneMost people have single cores? :shock: I cant really believe this...is that why there are so many articles about people buying hardware? I thought you guys aprroved that they are developers like crytek or gsc and bohemia that improve the graphics. Why to improve the graphics engine? a) It lacks in effects and texure quality from what i can see in the game b) People are getting tired of the stuttering issues from 2004-2009 and its still not fixed. c) halo 3 has the same physics engine, you dont need source engine for those physics. Infact i dont think its the best, it does not support destructable enviroments or big objects. d) well it might sound kinda weird to you but i think cod games have the best animations, (cod4 won an animation award) i just cant think of a game that has better animation.
Anyway... long story short, we gonna get plenty cod games on the pc like mw3 and IW has just turned into another developer that focuses on consoles and makes money on the pc like the devil.
dakan45
Actually, it was pretty obvious to me that they became a console developer with CoD 2. That game's multiplayer was dumbed down from the previous game, the small maps catered for the lower player numbers on console, and there was no anti-cheat out of the box for the PC version.
Only about 200000 people signed the petition. How many units of the game were sold? Even if all of them did not buy the game it still would have broken records
Iantheone
The online petition had nothing to do with boycotting the game - it was purely asking to have dedicated servers reinstated. So many people who signed it would have bought the game. That Steam Group and others posting on forums were the ones supposedly boycotting the game.
Most gamers in general never visit message boards so I don't see how this news, assuming that it's true and not more PR gibberish, is an indictment against anyone here who refuses to buy a neutered FPS at an inflated price.
-wildflower-
Exactly. The majority of buyers don't visit websites on a regular basis to find out about games. Some rely on PC gaming magazines, and others just buy the next game in a franchise regardless.
Infinity Ward basically misled the buying public, because they told the PC gaming magazines one thing, and then three weeks prior to release (and after the magazines had gone to publication), they did a 180 about how the multiplayer part of the game functioned.
Few years ago i was at your situation, but the thing is that Publishers do whatever they want in order to make money. In other words if IW and Activision believe that acting like every other game developer/publisher and lowering the pc version quality is a good thing for sales....why wouldnt they?
PC gamers are gonna buy it anyway, so why wouldnt they? Everyobody is neglecting the quality of the PC version or their multiplatform game. Its not like if we stop buying them, that will change. They will only ditch the pc version. So no way to change this, we just have to learn to accept it, like i do!!
dakan45
If you simply want to give in and accept whatever crap a publisher wants to sell, that's your prerogative. But I don't have to learn to accept anything. If I don't like what a developer is offering (stripped down features, jacked up the price, using ridiculous DRM, etc.) then I simply won't buy it. Unlike some gamers, I'm not 'addicted' to games to the point that I'm willing to accept anything in order to get my 'fix'. I also have no 'brand loyalty', because I will only purchase games that appeal to me.
Over the past couple of years I've avoided all games that use SecuROM 7, for my own reasons. I may have wanted some of those games, but I stuck to my guns due to the bad experience I had with SecuROM 7 on my PC. Some titles I purchased for console instead, others I simply ignored altogether. Did my stance change the policy of those developers? No. Knowing this, did I simply give in and buy those games anyway? No.
So if all PC developers suddenly switched over to match-making for multiplayer, stripped down on features and raised their prices, I'd stop buying PC games. If those same publishers then decided to switch entirely to console development, that's fine, because they're in business to make money and have to go where the money is. But I'm not going to buy a borked game due to some misguided notion that I'm somehow 'saving PC gaming'. If they don't offer me a gaming experience that I want, then I couldn't care less if they stop making PC versions.
Whether or not petitions, boycotts and posting on forums about issues have an effect is highly debatable. EA backed off their phone-home DRM due to all the bad publicity and discussions across internet forums. So yes, raising a ruckus in that instance did work.
In the case of IW and Activision, it didn't work. But then, Activision has gone back to a largely console focus anyway, so its hardly surprising. Any game they port to PC is just to make some extra cash at this point, which explains their disregard for any of the customer feedback regarding technical issues (bugs, glitches, crashes) with MW2.
Why would any gamer want to support a developer/publisher that ignores their legitimate complaints? Your guess is as good as mine.
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