Do you consider Oblivion an uninspired/generic content/boring title?

I want to know how many people agree.

It is true, with an insane amount of mods many of the issues

this game hascan be fixed, but consider the base content, such as a limited

amount of voicesand characters. It was in the hands of developers

to make fascinating quests and atmosphere. I enjoyed the dark brotherhood

arc when i played many years ago and some of the shrines, but thats about it.

I could see this game get a 7 at best, anything above does not fit.

Back up your opinions with arguments.

Nope, I love the game. I even greatly prefer it to Morrowind which I thought was extremely static and dead. Oblivion isn't without its flaws (voice acting, insignificant impact on the gameworld, poor storytelling), but I loved the gameworld and there are some really interesting quests. I definitely prefer the more realistic and consistent approach to the gameworld in comparison to Morrowind. Also, woods >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> swamps.

This was one of the first RPG games I ever played for the xbox 360 and I loved it for its high replay value. For instance, in one playthrough you could be the good hero of cyrodill or in another you could be the evil speaker of the Dark Brotherhood or the powerful arch-mage or something of the sort, sometimes I would even make my own stuff up, wich was much esayer when I bought the pc version because of all th mods and the console commands.

Though it does have its flaws like the poor voice acting UpInFlames mentioned, but I think the game it self outways the flaws.

I don't like how you can be the 'grandmaster' of everything. Its ridiculous.

Too many repeated npc's. The anooying part is when you talk to them only to

see no significant choices but 'rumor/advice'. I dislike the game engine on the whole,

reason why fallout 3 was even more of a failure for me.

I want to know how many people agree.

It is true, with an insane amount of mods many of the issues

this game hascan be fixed, but consider the base content, such as a limited

amount of voicesand characters. It was in the hands of developers

to make fascinating quests and atmosphere. I enjoyed the dark brotherhood

arc when i played many years ago and some of the shrines, but thats about it.

I could see this game get a 7 at best, anything above does not fit.

Back up your opinions with arguments.

depend3ncy

Back it up with arguments like you did?pff..

Anyhow...Oblivion is a masterpiece...and thats simply because no other rpg is better or equivalent to Oblivion(and by that i mean games released after 2006)

Yes, arguments. When you state reasons why you like or dont like something,

not "pff".

Most definitely.

Like I've said before, unless they make some DRASTIC changes in TES5, I won't be buying it.

Anyhow...Oblivion is a masterpiece...and thats simply because no other rpg is better or equivalent to Oblivion(and by that i mean games released after 2006)

rhazzy

Holy es etch one tee!

Adding to the list of reasons combat, which is rather primitive, they could

have at least implemented hit modifiers so that you would lose fatigue depending

on where you were struck etc. I have yet to see a game where someone has

a dozen of arrows in him and keeps on fighting like nothing happened..seriously?

I don't like how you can be the 'grandmaster' of everything. Its ridiculous.depend3ncy

It's just another choice and I don't see anything inherently wrong with it. On my first playthrough I was a good Warrior. I developed warrior-related skills and chose to do quests that reflected my character like saving the world in the main quest. I ignored magic, stealth, the Dark Brotherhood and the Thieves Guild. On my second playthrough I was a female evil elf Mage and I refused to do the main quest and chose to do quests that benefited me - Mages Guild, Dark Brotherhood. I developed magic-related skills.

It's not the game's fault that players abuse the system and do EVERYTHING offered to them and then complain about it. The option is there. No one's forcing you to use it if you don't want to. If you DO use it, that means you WANT to use it so don't complain about it.

Thats a flawed system there, apparently you havent noticed.

Thats a flawed system there, apparently you havent noticed.

depend3ncy

There's lots of games that give you that kind freedom...it's not a flaw...if it doesn't appeal to you fine but don't pretend someone else is just ignoring it. What's true for you isn't true for someone else...especially with something like that.

My personal opinion of Oblivion is it's a good RPG that has a lot of positive aspects to it. I think Morrowind was better though and I was slightly dissapointed with Oblivion overall...but only because I had such high expectations. To me it's still a good game that has a lot to offer.

Why i voted Definitely

Auto leveling creatures

Game economics(trading)

Inventory sistem

Fast travel

Main Quest

Small things can ruin a game for some. At least it doesn't have cover system or regenerating health. :P

incoherent is the best word it can sum it up, uninspired sometimes and add tot he factthat the environments/dungeons were repetitive.

the inspiration for the game comes from mods.. Unique Landscapes + Elswyr adds too much win for its open world to be somewhat enjoyed.

[QUOTE="depend3ncy"]

Thats a flawed system there, apparently you havent noticed.

Renevent42

There's lots of games that give you that kind freedom...it's not a flaw...if it doesn't appeal to you fine but don't pretend someone else is just ignoring it. What's true for you isn't true for someone else...especially with something like that.

My personal opinion of Oblivion is it's a good RPG that has a lot of positive aspects to it. I think Morrowind was better though and I was slightly dissapointed with Oblivion overall...but only because I had such high expectations. To me it's still a good game that has a lot to offer.

LIST OF GAMES, PLEASE

I liked it, but at the same time I was kinda expecting something more. I wanted that feeling when I first played Morrowind when I first played Oblivion, but didn't get it.

Me liking it went to 'its a piece of garbage', once i paid

closer attention to the design of the entire game.

People who dont know much about

game development are usually the ones who give

high ratings to games like this.

The vanilla version isn't that good imo, but I still enjoyed it. It's much better with mods though.

While the game certainly has many flaws and shortcomings I haven't found one that does it better. Many of them can be quite easily fixed with mods as well. Though the engine really sucks.

Me liking it went to 'its a piece of garbage', once i paid

closer attention to the design of the entire game.

People who dont know much about

game development are usually the ones who give

high ratings to games like this.

depend3ncy

What a fallacy...lol.

"anybody who disagrees with me must not know anything"

Been gaming for over 20 years dude...I've played almost every RPG from Pool of Radiance (SSI) and beyond. I've played the greats, the bad ones, the JRPG's (which I don't like anymore), the hybrids, and everything in between.

What's your "gaming credentials" that gives you such authority to claim anybody who disagrees with you does so out of ignorance?

Are you a game designer? No? Then you are just like everyone else...a gamer who has preferrences.

It's not the game's fault that players abuse the system and do EVERYTHING offered to them and then complain about it. The option is there. No one's forcing you to use it if you don't want to. If you DO use it, that means you WANT to use it so don't complain about it.

Morrowind >>> Oblivion for me.

That game is easily the most uninteresting RPG I've ever played.

Oh and the creatures in Morrowind were a hell of a lot more creative than Oblivion's. I don't see how one part of the landscape has totally original creatures and then the next piece of land has every creature you find in basic mythology/Tolkien books.smerlus

[QUOTE="smerlus"]Oh and the creatures in Morrowind were a hell of a lot more creative than Oblivion's. I don't see how one part of the landscape has totally original creatures and then the next piece of land has every creature you find in basic mythology/Tolkien books.Renevent42

The problem with Oblivion is that it was made for consoles. Consoles and PC games are like oil and water, we want complexity; consoles can't deliver, we have tons of keys to map and use; consoles have 8ish... Oblivion was ruined by the console. Even the console users contributed to the problems with their "complaints" about how hard Morrowind was....

Freakin' consoles

Been gaming for over 20 years dude...

Renevent42

What a waste, wheres is the brain?

It is uninspired and generic, but not boring.

Especially with mods. I don't even want to think how Oblivion would be without mods.

[QUOTE="Renevent42"]

Been gaming for over 20 years dude...

depend3ncy

What a waste, wheres is the brain?

Yeah, except thats exactly what you are doing in your posts.

Back on topic, please.

Post why it is you like Oblivion.

Yeah, except thats exactly what you are doing in your posts.

Back on topic, please.

Post why it is you like Oblivion.

depend3ncy

No, that's what you are doing...especially with your claiming that people who don't agree are ignorant. That's an attempt to make your opinion fact for others...they just don't realize it lol.

Yes, back on topic.

Reasons I like Oblivion:

-Combat was good

-Huge world to explore with lots of cool secrets (like that arena championship from the gods)

-Nice variety of weapons, spells, and items -Some really great side quests

-Closing down the demon gates -Parts of the story were implemented very well (like when you get to that town on fire and must liberate it)

-Nice crafting component

-Houses

-Arena

-Design of the cities were great, especially the main one

- Graphics of course at the time were breathtaking

Things I didn't like:

-Scaling had to much effect on the world. I don't mind scaling, but in Oblivion I thought they went a bit overboard

-Main story wasn't that great, though I don't really care about stories in games anyways

-Some areas of the world were recycled (like world dungeons)

-Stiff animations and dialog for a lot of NPC's

A point about the NPC's I want to expand on is while the AI did a decent job, I think I really prefer the way Gothic/Risen handles it. While it may be scripted, the world just feels more alive when NPC's are doing the things you'd expect them to. Blacksmiths hammering on their anvils, farmers in the field, ect. I think the developers tried to achieve something and didn't quite get it right...and in the end the game suffered a bit for it.

Enough with the paranoia, but good explanation of why you like

the game. The areas that appeal to you i can not agree upon. Combat

never felt satisfying, advancement superficial, npcs lifeless. I did

like the landscape and creature models, but humans are done poorly.

I consider Risen/Gothic 2 much better games.

Oblivion Vanilla = 75%

Oblivion with mods (oscuro) = 90%

Enough with the paranoia, but good explanation of why you like

the game. The areas that appeal to you i can not agree upon. Combat

never felt satisfying, advancement superficial, npcs lifeless. I did

like the landscape and creature models, but humans are done poorly.

I consider Risen/Gothic 2 much better games.

depend3ncy

Me liking it went to 'its a piece of garbage', once i paid

closer attention to the design of the entire game.

People who dont know much about

game development are usually the ones who give

high ratings to games like this.

depend3ncy

Sorry man, I checked your profile and you gave Baldur's Gate a 1... I don't like it, but it doesn't deserve a 1. I've just lost my respect in you

Mods make it even better if you

are in a position of like, when you

arent - they only underline how

underwhelming the game is,

I just checked his profile too...this is an excerpt from his review of Just Cause 2: "Just fail. Are you low intelligence, void of taste? Just fail is just for you." Exactly what I was talking about. Renevent42

Looks like this guy's trolling reeeeal bad!

Sorry man, I checked your profile and you gave Baldur's Gate a 1... I don't like it, but it doesn't deserve a 1. I've just lost my respect in you

yourmajesty90

Good for you?

I think I have so much hatred for that creature that i forgot it's name...it was that flying pest. wasn't it caled like a wing glider or some crap? I remember just downloading a mod which made the creatures more realistic. they would only fight you if they were diseased, blighted or you attacked them.smerlus

Quote from the UESP Wiki:

"The development team has admitted the sheer amount of cliff racers in the game was a mistake."

:)

Hated those creatures too...easily worst thing about Morrowind, but

i loved the game on the whole.

[QUOTE="yourmajesty90"]

Sorry man, I checked your profile and you gave Baldur's Gate a 1... I don't like it, but it doesn't deserve a 1. I've just lost my respect in you

depend3ncy

Good for you?

Yes, very good for me. Bad for you.
Oh and here's a game you might enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f3HDsgLV68
Not an RPG, but perfect for you

Big rigs is the best game ever, dont you dare

insult such a marvel of art!!!oneone

Back on topic, please.

i loved the game on the whole.

depend3ncy

I second that!