Dragon Age 2, the spiritual successor to Mass Effect 2

33 hours? Really? It lasted me about twelve-fifteen hours. I did all the fun stuff. The only thing i had left to do is scan every planet. Look it up on youtube see how interesting that is.GeneralShowzer

I did everything possible in Mass Effect 2, and I mean EVERYTHING. Visited every planet, Scanned most (not all, that would be crazy), did every sidequests, listened to every dialog..and it took me 56 hours. For DAO, again everything (didn't read codexes a whole lot though) took me 118 hours. For Awakening, less than ME2, at around 45 hours. I guess I just like to take my time with RPGs... BioWare's especially, so damn immersive.

I did everything possible in Mass Effect 2, and I mean EVERYTHING. Visited every planet, Scanned most (not all, that would be crazy), did every sidequests, listened to every dialog..and it took me 56 hours. For DAO, again everything (didn't read codexes a whole lot though) took me 118 hours. For Awakening, less than ME2, at around 45 hours. I guess I just like to take my time with RPGs... BioWare's especially, so damn immersive.

ralph2190

This is what I meant:

No dual wieleding warrior,and assigning points to existent skills is not comparable for me as learning new.

This will affect casters like I play them. I stated it as a preference,or lack there of, not as negativity.

Didnt like the ME2 upgrade system to for example "shreader ammo"-a skill?

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I did everything possible in Mass Effect 2, and I mean EVERYTHING. Visited every planet, Scanned most (not all, that would be crazy), did every sidequests, listened to every dialog..and it took me 56 hours. For DAO, again everything (didn't read codexes a whole lot though) took me 118 hours. For Awakening, less than ME2, at around 45 hours. I guess I just like to take my time with RPGs... BioWare's especially, so damn immersive.

Empirefrtw

Oh really?

I don't like to rush through my games. I just like taking my time with RPGs. There's a lot more content that goes into these games than you would think.

This is what I meant:

No dual wieleding warrior,and assigning points to existent skills is not comparable for me as learning new.

This will affect casters like I play them. I stated it as a preference,or lack there of, not as negativity.

Didnt like the ME2 upgrade system to for example "shreader ammo"-a skill?

Dantus12

Currently sounds like that.Why would I want,talking about my self only say Winter Grasp level 1,2,3,4,instead of variety to create combos like storm of the century for example?

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]33 hours? Really? It lasted me about twelve-fifteen hours. I did all the fun stuff. The only thing i had left to do is scan every planet. Look it up on youtube see how interesting that is.madrocketeer

I did everything possible in Mass Effect 2, and I mean EVERYTHING. Visited every planet, Scanned most (not all, that would be crazy), did every sidequests, listened to every dialog..and it took me 56 hours. For DAO, again everything (didn't read codexes a whole lot though) took me 118 hours. For Awakening, less than ME2, at around 45 hours. I guess I just like to take my time with RPGs... BioWare's especially, so damn immersive.

ralph2190

I did pretty much everything in both of those games, first time through, and halved your time for each of them without even trying, so to each their own.

Although for that matter, I have no idea how you could stand to spend over 100 hours in DAO - I was dead bored 30 hours in, and by the 50th hour I just wanted it to end as quickly as possible.

I did pretty much everything in both of those games, first time through, and halved your time for each of them without even trying, so to each their own.

Although for that matter, I have no idea how you could stand to spend over 100 hours in DAO - I was dead bored 30 hours in, and by the 50th hour I just wanted it to end as quickly as possible.

Planeforger

I spent an unnecessarily long amount of time switching out armors at the party camp and going back and forth between the different merchant vendors in the game. So time spent actually progressing the game would be lesser than that. But otherwise I'm kinda a completionist when it comes to games..unlocking every chest I came across, every one of those secret little codex quests, I did them all. But I wasn't bored at all, not like when I was playing Oblivion for instance. That games was boring beyond belief.

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I don't think there are less number of spells at all. Take a look at Marion Hawke's Warrior Tree:

GeneralShowzer

Russian translation means "Weapon in each hand"or Dual weild which he has selected. The rest are probably shield, spear, mace, ect...I'm sorry this does not look deep at all.

[QUOTE="ralph2190"]

I don't think there are less number of spells at all. Take a look at Marion Hawke's Warrior Tree:

GeneralShowzer

from the look of it, the crystal system of Final Fantasy X-2. if there're rune/crystal slots in there, the game is shaping up to be a joint wet dream of Bioware loonies and console gamers.

The witcher had skill/spell trees similar to this one. I don't understand why you bring consoles into the picture.

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[QUOTE="ralph2190"]

I don't think there are less number of spells at all. Take a look at Marion Hawke's Warrior Tree:

Elann2008

Russian translation means "Weapon in each hand"or Dual weild which he has selected. The rest are probably shield, spear, mace, ect...I'm sorry this does not look deep at all.

The first time I saw gameplay for DA2 it reminded me of a Final Fantasy game. I assume they are trying for a japanese/western RPG hybrid (emphasis more on japanese or so it seems).

[QUOTE="Planeforger"]

I did pretty much everything in both of those games, first time through, and halved your time for each of them without even trying, so to each their own.

Although for that matter, I have no idea how you could stand to spend over 100 hours in DAO - I was dead bored 30 hours in, and by the 50th hour I just wanted it to end as quickly as possible.

ralph2190

I spent an unnecessarily long amount of time switching out armors at the party camp and going back and forth between the different merchant vendors in the game. So time spent actually progressing the game would be lesser than that. But otherwise I'm kinda a completionist when it comes to games..unlocking every chest I came across, every one of those secret little codex quests, I did them all. But I wasn't bored at all, not like when I was playing Oblivion for instance. That games was boring beyond belief.

The devs said that the game is longer than Awakenings and shorter than Origins. Similar to ME2. And I had a blast playing all of them, so I wouldn't mind the length.

The devs said that the game is longer than Awakenings and shorter than Origins. Similar to ME2. And I had a blast playing all of them, so I wouldn't mind the length.

ralph2190

Bleh, well at least I can just replay Bioware's old games I guess.

Are you SURE thats the inventory? It look horrible... And why in the damn world do they use a "scroll" inventory? My eyes are bleeding :(

Are you SURE thats the inventory? It look horrible... And why in the damn world do they use a "scroll" inventory? My eyes are bleeding :(

KalDurenik

I did everything possible in Mass Effect 2, and I mean EVERYTHING. Visited every planet, Scanned most (not all, that would be crazy), did every sidequests, listened to every dialog..and it took me 56 hours. For DAO, again everything (didn't read codexes a whole lot though) took me 118 hours. For Awakening, less than ME2, at around 45 hours. I guess I just like to take my time with RPGs... BioWare's especially, so damn immersive.

ralph2190

And what does my rating of a completely unrelated game has anything to do with this? Stop trying to turn every thread into a Witcher vs DA thread, it's borderline trolling.GeneralShowzer

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]And what does my rating of a completely unrelated game has anything to do with this? Stop trying to turn every thread into a Witcher vs DA thread, it's borderline trolling.SkyWard20

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I did everything possible in Mass Effect 2, and I mean EVERYTHING. Visited every planet, Scanned most (not all, that would be crazy), did every sidequests, listened to every dialog..and it took me 56 hours. For DAO, again everything (didn't read codexes a whole lot though) took me 118 hours. For Awakening, less than ME2, at around 45 hours. I guess I just like to take my time with RPGs... BioWare's especially, so damn immersive.

SkyWard20

Here are more inventory,skill,talent screens :spoiler warning

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[QUOTE="SkyWard20"][QUOTE="ralph2190"]

I did everything possible in Mass Effect 2, and I mean EVERYTHING. Visited every planet, Scanned most (not all, that would be crazy), did every sidequests, listened to every dialog..and it took me 56 hours. For DAO, again everything (didn't read codexes a whole lot though) took me 118 hours. For Awakening, less than ME2, at around 45 hours. I guess I just like to take my time with RPGs... BioWare's especially, so damn immersive.

lawlessx

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[QUOTE="SkyWard20"] I don't know how many hours I've spent in Dragon Age, but it's probably in the hundreds. I loved every second of it and I don't think Dragon Age 2 will be any different. That is what separates a BioWare RPG from a common RPG: the sheer overload of awesomeness.SkyWard20

[QUOTE="SkyWard20"][QUOTE="lawlessx"] judging by how much you rave about bioware im willing to bet you don't play much WRPG's

lawlessx

Not that many games when I think about it.

This is pure opinion, but in my mind Bioware is committing suicide with these "streamlining" changes.

I quit ME2 halfway through, the loading screens, ease, boring combat, removal inventory, removal of looting, removal of XP and the whole "Gears of War" feel to the combat was too much.

Sounds like DA2 is going down the same road of appealing to the "mainstream" / easy gaming / "coolness" instead of their old formula of immersion and depth.

This is pure opinion, but in my mind Bioware is committing suicide with these "streamlining" changes.

I quit ME2 halfway through, the loading screens, ease, boring combat, removal inventory, removal of looting, removal of XP and the whole "Gears of War" feel to the combat was too much.

Sounds like DA2 is going down the same road of appealing to the "mainstream" / easy gaming / "coolness" instead of their old formula of immersion and depth.

haberman13

Doubt they can commit suicide with EA marketing behind.The strangest thing is the claim ,that they wish to add more RPG elements to ME3.

Their interviews are sometimes just hilarious.The idea of selling 10 mil.games,somehow completely killed their creativity,at moments even story telling.

And they used to be great story tellers.

The loading screens are needed because of console engines,these where elevators in ME.

After looking at the screens again,I cant get rid of the feeling that companions will not be nearly as interesting like DAO`s.The gaps on the sides of the screen,I really hope they will remove them in the PC version,it looks so empty.

And the skills are just acrobatics potential,flashy and cool.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Little stars pointing out how good an item is... Little icons next to the dialogue wheel. What's the target audience for this common...ralph2190

You'll see stars if I ever meet you face to face. I understand that forums voice people's agreements and disagreements, but what you're doing, bashing Mass Effect and Dragon Age in every thread out there, is downright trolling.

this is a good thing; it is more realistic, and will make inventory management a lot easier.

I just hope they learn from ME2 and include a few more options; ME2 felt a bit limited, a good idea, but they trimmed a bit too much off.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Little stars pointing out how good an item is... Little icons next to the dialogue wheel. What's the target audience for this common...ralph2190

You'll see stars if I ever meet you face to face. I understand that forums voice people's agreements and disagreements, but what you're doing, bashing Mass Effect and Dragon Age in every thread out there, is downright trolling.