Dragon Age 2 video is posted

"The Making of DA 2 - Part 1" has been posted, gives a decent amount of background to start. Link to video

It all looks good to me, it's still among the top games I await.

Ill see you in march when it scores 7.5 on gamespot and it's absolutely destroyed by Human Revolution.GeneralShowzer

Witcher 2 will destroy both of them, opinions are great aren't they?

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Ill see you in march when it scores 7.5 on gamespot and it's absolutely destroyed by Human Revolution.Whiteblade999

Witcher 2 will destroy both of them, opinions are great aren't they?

Like i said the first time, this is an epic failure on all levels. The combat was the best thing about the game,you take that away and well...GeneralShowzer

Oh my god..here we go again.

I have reason to believe this GeneralShowzer is one MIke_18 on the BioWare forums. All this guy does is diss Dragon Age all day. How do I know? You both said you played 12 hours of ME2 and that "DA2 is going the Fable route". It's like that Monkey Island hater and his multiple accounts all over again.

Looks all right to me, although you don't really get a good impression of how it works.

DA:O combat was fine, but it could drag a bit. I disagree with their dice-rolling comment (speaking as a tabletop wargamer), but the way in which the pause function was almost completely necessary to manage a combat did make it feel very awkward and jerky.

(As an aside, the mouse-based combat of the RPG Silver from many years ago was quite cool!)

I don't know what you're talking about. I have no account on Bioware forums and i like Monkey Island.

I don't know what you're talking about. I have no account on Bioware forums and i like Monkey Island 2. GeneralShowzer

Sure that's what anyone would say in their defense. And I'm not saying you are the MI hater guy, but a similar case.

Back on topic, I thought that the video was pretty good. We saw only like 5 seconds or so of PC gameplay but the UI is structured pretty much the same as Origins. Looking forward to the next diary.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Like i said the first time, this is an epic failure on all levels. The combat was the best thing about the game,you take that away and well...ralph2190

Oh my god..here we go again.

I have reason to believe this GeneralShowzer is one MIke_18 on the BioWare forums. All this guy does is diss Dragon Age all day. How do I know? You both said you played 12 hours of ME2 and that "DA2 is going the Fable route". It's like that Monkey Island hater and his multiple accounts all over again.

I really enjoyed Dragon Age origins, and when i heard how much they were going to change it, it sounded like they were screwing it up. BUT i must say after that video i actually think that it could be quite awesome. the story looks like its going to be epic.

[QUOTE="ralph2190"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Like i said the first time, this is an epic failure on all levels. The combat was the best thing about the game,you take that away and well...millerlight89

Oh my god..here we go again.

I have reason to believe this GeneralShowzer is one MIke_18 on the BioWare forums. All this guy does is diss Dragon Age all day. How do I know? You both said you played 12 hours of ME2 and that "DA2 is going the Fable route". It's like that Monkey Island hater and his multiple accounts all over again.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]

[QUOTE="ralph2190"]

Oh my god..here we go again.

I have reason to believe this GeneralShowzer is one MIke_18 on the BioWare forums. All this guy does is diss Dragon Age all day. How do I know? You both said you played 12 hours of ME2 and that "DA2 is going the Fable route". It's like that Monkey Island hater and his multiple accounts all over again.

Roland123_basic

I don't know what you're talking about. I have no account on Bioware forums and i like Monkey Island.

GeneralShowzer

I really enjoyed Dragon Age origins, and when i heard how much they were going to change it, it sounded like they were screwing it up. BUT i must say after that video i actually think that it could be quite awesome. the story looks like its going to be epic.

kramernic

What does it matter? I don't agree with a lot General says, but I personally can see why he is concerned. I don't like what I have seen so far either. We didn't need a voiced main character, we are can only focus on one character at a time, the combat look pretty meh at this point. This game is not looking too wonderful and it looks worse than the first from what I have seen. I love Bioware though, and I won't totally right it off until I play it myself.

millerlight89

Yeah it's not my place to judge but I'm just putting the facts out there.

But you did listen to the diary right, it says that they wanted to go for a more personal route this time. It's more of a design choice that they had rather than a revamp of the entire system. Who's to say we won't have our warden back in DA3? About the combat we haven't seen much, maybe 5 or so seconds of PC gameplay, but again I can understand why they changed it. It's actually more of a animation speed change rather than a new combat entirely. But you're right, we need more hands-on and gameplay demos before we can understand it fully.

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] What does it matter? I don't agree with a lot General says, but I personally can see why he is concerned. I don't like what I have seen so far either. We didn't need a voiced main character, we are can only focus on one character at a time, the combat look pretty meh at this point. This game is not looking too wonderful and it looks worse than the first from what I have seen. I love Bioware though, and I won't totally right it off until I play it myself.

GeneralShowzer

what?

so watching someone say what you clicked suddenly makes it an interactive movie and doesnt provide role playing elements? you CHOSE what the guy was going to say, and were presented with several options. that is pretty much the definition of role playing....

What does it matter? I don't agree with a lot General says, but I personally can see why he is concerned. I don't like what I have seen so far either. We didn't need a voiced main character, we are can only focus on one character at a time, the combat look pretty meh at this point. This game is not looking too wonderful and it looks worse than the first from what I have seen. I love Bioware though, and I won't totally right it off until I play it myself.

millerlight89

I'm pleased by what I've read about the rogue character, having an easier time moving into a backstab attack.:)

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="Roland123_basic"] Sheppard is voiced in the ME games and they give you just as much choice/even more choice in conversations than DAO did.... so what is the problem?Roland123_basic

what?

so watching someone say what you clicked suddenly makes it an interactive movie and doesnt provide role playing elements? you CHOSE what the guy was going to say, and were presented with several options. that is pretty much the definition of role playing....

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Because it feels like you're watching an interactive movie, and not role playing a character.GeneralShowzer

what?

so watching someone say what you clicked suddenly makes it an interactive movie and doesnt provide role playing elements? you CHOSE what the guy was going to say, and were presented with several options. that is pretty much the definition of role playing....

perhaps it is you who needs to understand what RP is. placing stats and turned based combat does not make roleplaying. choosing your path, your conversations, and reactions to situations is roleplaying. all of which ME, ME2, DAO, and pretty much every other bioware game has.

if you dont like having a voiced character, that is your problem not biowares. it just means you wont like any of their games from pretty much now on. there is nothing wrong with having a voiced RP character in a game, as long as the game gives the PLAYER the CHOICE to choose what that character says, and how he/she reacts to a situation... THAT is roleplaying, and THAT is exactly what bioware provides in its games.

if anything, standard RPGs like final fantasy and other such games are NOT ACTUALLY rpgs. you are not role playing a character, and you are not making choices. they are more like an adventure game than anything else.

This confirmed my concerns.

Paraphrasing , low res textures, missing head tops. atached OTS camera- a port.

They added bad animations, bad facial deformations , a voice actor that is trying to sound Shepard- cool.

And combat that looks like Fable- TLC.

Dissapointing.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="Roland123_basic"]

what?

so watching someone say what you clicked suddenly makes it an interactive movie and doesnt provide role playing elements? you CHOSE what the guy was going to say, and were presented with several options. that is pretty much the definition of role playing....

Roland123_basic

perhaps it is you who needs to understand what RP is. placing stats and turned based combat does not make roleplaying. choosing your path, your conversations, and reactions to situations is roleplaying. all of which ME, ME2, DAO, and pretty much every other bioware game has.

if you dont like having a voiced character, that is your problem not biowares. it just means you wont like any of their games from pretty much now on. there is nothing wrong with having a voiced RP character in a game, as long as the game gives the PLAYER the CHOICE to choose what that character says, and how he/she reacts to a situation... THAT is roleplaying, and THAT is exactly what bioware provides in its games.

if anything, standard RPGs like final fantasy and other such games are NOT ACTUALLY rpgs. you are not role playing a character, and you are not making choices. they are more like an adventure game than anything else.

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] You need to understand better what role-playing is. Choosing your dialogue is not.GeneralShowzer

perhaps it is you who needs to understand what RP is. placing stats and turned based combat does not make roleplaying. choosing your path, your conversations, and reactions to situations is roleplaying. all of which ME, ME2, DAO, and pretty much every other bioware game has.

if you dont like having a voiced character, that is your problem not biowares. it just means you wont like any of their games from pretty much now on. there is nothing wrong with having a voiced RP character in a game, as long as the game gives the PLAYER the CHOICE to choose what that character says, and how he/she reacts to a situation... THAT is roleplaying, and THAT is exactly what bioware provides in its games.

if anything, standard RPGs like final fantasy and other such games are NOT ACTUALLY rpgs. you are not role playing a character, and you are not making choices. they are more like an adventure game than anything else.

This confirmed my concerns.

Paraphrasing , low res textures, missing head tops. atached OTS camera- a port.

They added bad animations, bad facial deformations , a voice actor that is trying to sound Shepard- cool.

And combat that looks like Fable- TLC.

Dissapointing.

Dantus12

"Paraphrasing , low res textures, missing head tops. atached OTS camera- a port."

How did you even deduce that we have an attached OTS camera? There was hardly any gameplay shown. If you are talking about the short PC gameplay, I don't see how different that is from having a zoomed in character from Origins.

You're saying that Origins didn't have muddy textures in a few places? Have you played any of Bethesda's games? The occasional muddy texture is a given for a game these days.

I agree that the facial animations looked stiff, but it appears that FaceFX has not been finalized yet. Just like the Witcher 2's devs say in their previews. John Epler at the BioWare forums confirmed not more than 2 hours ago.

"Trying to sound Shepard"
Wait Mark Meer has a British accent? That's news to me.

[QUOTE="Dantus12"]

This confirmed my concerns.

Paraphrasing , low res textures, missing head tops. atached OTS camera- a port.

They added bad animations, bad facial deformations , a voice actor that is trying to sound Shepard- cool.

And combat that looks like Fable- TLC.

Dissapointing.

ralph2190

"Paraphrasing , low res textures, missing head tops. atached OTS camera- a port."

How did you even deduce that we have an attached OTS camera? There was hardly any gameplay shown. If you are talking about the short PC gameplay, I don't see how different that is from having a zoomed in character from Origins.

You're saying that Origins didn't have muddy textures in a few places? Have you played any of Bethesda's games? The occasional muddy texture is a given for a game these days.

I agree that the facial animations looked stiff, but it appears that FaceFX has not been finalized yet. Just like the Witcher 2's devs say in their previews. John Epler at the BioWare forums confirmed not more than 2 hours ago.

"Trying to sound Shepard"
Wait Mark Meer has a British accent? That's news to me.

Some people observe, some go around repeating game dev comments , like they are motivational mantras.

The muddiness of Bethesda games belongs in Bethesda games ,because the nearly unlimited movement freedom doesn't happen in Bioware games.

Trying to sound cool, currently very desperately, I will stand corrected if it changes before release. The voice actor is not the luckiest choice for a character that is meant to be part of a world reflection of the players choices via DAO import.

This can improve to.

[QUOTE="ralph2190"]

[QUOTE="Dantus12"]

This confirmed my concerns.

Paraphrasing , low res textures, missing head tops. atached OTS camera- a port.

They added bad animations, bad facial deformations , a voice actor that is trying to sound Shepard- cool.

And combat that looks like Fable- TLC.

Dissapointing.

Dantus12

"Paraphrasing , low res textures, missing head tops. atached OTS camera- a port."

How did you even deduce that we have an attached OTS camera? There was hardly any gameplay shown. If you are talking about the short PC gameplay, I don't see how different that is from having a zoomed in character from Origins.

You're saying that Origins didn't have muddy textures in a few places? Have you played any of Bethesda's games? The occasional muddy texture is a given for a game these days.

I agree that the facial animations looked stiff, but it appears that FaceFX has not been finalized yet. Just like the Witcher 2's devs say in their previews. John Epler at the BioWare forums confirmed not more than 2 hours ago.

"Trying to sound Shepard"
Wait Mark Meer has a British accent? That's news to me.

i have lost interest in this, every bit of news that comes out makes me get less & less excited.

i loved the first game.

i have lost interest in this, every bit of news that comes out makes me get less & less excited.

i loved the first game.

PcGamingRig

In short: Hack and slash, rushed, wheel of doom, PC? Oh right! Almost forgot about that one!.

I might buy the game when its 60-70% cheaper.

The voice actor is not the luckiest choice for a character that is meant to be part of a world reflection of the players choices via DAO import.

This can improve to.

Dantus12

You know what? The VO for Hawke has been hinted at by devs as someone who voiced a not so popular character in Origins. That fits Bann Vaughan's description and he sounds exactly like Hawke.

Also did any of you notice Anders? He shows up in the trailer, in the companions shot:

Oh it is shorter. It's confirmed by Bioware "Longer than Awakenings, shorter than Origins" And stop responding to me, I don't care about DA II anymore, no reason in getting worked up in a game i don't care for and will never buy.GeneralShowzer

If you don't care about the game then why are you here? Just leave for crying out loud! We are here to discuss the video, not to listen to you rambling on about your woes.

[QUOTE="Dantus12"]

The voice actor is not the luckiest choice for a character that is meant to be part of a world reflection of the players choices via DAO import.

This can improve to.

ralph2190

You know what? The VO for Hawke has been hinted at by devs as someone who voiced a not so popular character in Origins. That fits Bann Vaughan's description and he sounds exactly like Hawke.

Also did any of you notice Anders? He shows up in the trailer, in the companions shot:

The model doesn`t look nearly like Anders, this is probably fan optimism speaking.

Until confirmed the model looks nothing like Him.

Ban Vaughan`s VA is voicing ser Bryant, from the Lothering Chantry , the actors name is Nicholas Boulton, and again until confirmation that this is the same actor, and a heavy repair on the facial animations it doesn`t look like the best solution.

The barefooted elf in the video is a companion.

And btw. I like Mark Meer.