First 9800GTX Benchmarks!!! - Nearly GX2 performance for Half the Price!!!!!

heh, id be happy with a 3850 right now.Lilgunney612

I was going to buy a ATI HD3850 512mb but then I see 9600GT 512mb performance for £6 more UK prices. 9600GT easily beats the HD 3850.

It really shouldn't be too surprising at that price really, it's basically an overclocked 8800GTX with the new architectue. Brand new 8800GTX on ebay go for $300 and as little as $250. It looks like this will be the price/performance card to get. I'm sticking to my current card now though until I really need an upgrade. Plus I have a fetish for single slot, x800 GT Geforce cards (7800GT, 8800GT etc.) I would prefer an 8800GT to my GTX which sounds completely crazy if you ask me.

I've also gotten to some strange state of mind where I like playing games on older computers better. And you don't need the best crap to have a fun experience. From now on I'm a strict mid range gamer.

Hot_Potato

Its more like a 8800GTS Oced not a 8800GTX.

I asked you this earlier, but again musa what does Nvidia pay you to do this? And if they aren't paying you why do you spend your whole day posting here pimping nvidia products?

MUSA's ACCOUNT IS 7 DAYS OLD and he has 430 Posts?!!?!

My god dude, is that what Nvidia has you doing all day, are you part of the 9800 launch viral marketing campaign?

I asked you this earlier, but again musa what does Nvidia pay you to do this? And if they aren't paying you why do you spend your whole day posting here pimping nvidia products?

MUSA's ACCOUNT IS 7 DAYS OLD and he has 430 Posts?!!?!

My god dude, is that what Nvidia has you doing all day, are you part of the 9800 launch viral marketing campaign?

zipozal

I will kill your monster.

Let's face it the 9800GX2 was a terribly designed card. Overheated,overpriced and bolted together like frankenstein's monster.

The sinlge 9800GTX brings back sanity to the market. I think the price maybe higher than estimated or they will hold it back for a while see if they can get rid of the monster cards.

teddyrob

Judging from the temps given on the tweaktown review, the temps aren't at all out of the ordinary. They're pretty much the same as my gts.

All i can say is crysis has been one of my most memorable gaming experiecnes and if you dont like it fine that's your opinion,what i do know is if not for nvidia crysis may have goon multiplatform or may not have come or whatever.Musacircuit_2

Without Nvidia, the game would have never seen the light of day...
It might have eventually been released sometime in 2010 or later but Nvidia spent a RIDICULOUS amount of $$$$$$$$$ and man hours to get the game/code even close.

I asked you this earlier, but again musa what does Nvidia pay you to do this? And if they aren't paying you why do you spend your whole day posting here pimping nvidia products?

MUSA's ACCOUNT IS 7 DAYS OLD and he has 430 Posts?!!?!

My god dude, is that what Nvidia has you doing all day, are you part of the 9800 launch viral marketing campaign?

zipozal

lol, you made me smile.

I see no need to upgrade from my 8800GT,,,i can max every game apart from Crysis so whats the point?

I guess if maybe someone has a 3850 it might be worth it.

these 9xxx series cards are all a joke (coming from someone that has owned a 8800 GTX since the first half of 2007.)theshadowhunter

I must admit that i originally thought people who bought the 8800GTX were only going to have a short reign of glory due to the 9800's coming out,,,,but it turns out the 9800's are taking ages to appear and also dont outahine the 8800GTX by that much! Maybe the 9800's will somehow shine once better drivers appear maybe :/

I see no need to upgrade from my 8800GT,,,i can max every game apart from Crysis so whats the point?

I guess if maybe someone has a 3850 it might be worth it.

daytona_178

I've got an X1900XT and the 9-series just isn't worth it if you ask me. Can I play all the latest and greatest games on high? No, not really. Can I play them at very reasonable settings at my native resolution without frame-rates dipping into unplayable levels? Absolutely. Therefore, not time to upgrade yet. Unless I get a new monitor - 16x10 might be a bit much for my poor card.

:lol: i guess you dont know much about technology its ok you will learn soon enough little one let me put it plain and simple so even a tech noob like yourself can understand ok here i go are you ready? ok

technology (video cards to be specific) are outdated 1 year or even a couple months after its launch the 3870x2 will be outdtated by the 4*** series then the 4 by the next gen its life

there wow that sounds complex you might not understand it :(

you saying the x2 is fine now but not in the future who cares your not suppose to hold on to a sysytem yur whole life thats the thing with pc you have to upgrade sorry if you cant afford pc gaming or just pc hardware i suggest you go to your local best buy and buy an xbox 360 if you dont want to keep upgrading

good luck with the xbox happy gaming :)

sabbath2gamer

I'm a PC-exclusive gamer with better specs than you have. :lol:

[QUOTE="sabbath2gamer"]

:lol: i guess you dont know much about technology its ok you will learn soon enough little one let me put it plain and simple so even a tech noob like yourself can understand ok here i go are you ready? ok

technology (video cards to be specific) are outdated 1 year or even a couple months after its launch the 3870x2 will be outdtated by the 4*** series then the 4 by the next gen its life

there wow that sounds complex you might not understand it :(

you saying the x2 is fine now but not in the future who cares your not suppose to hold on to a sysytem yur whole life thats the thing with pc you have to upgrade sorry if you cant afford pc gaming or just pc hardware i suggest you go to your local best buy and buy an xbox 360 if you dont want to keep upgrading

good luck with the xbox happy gaming :)

dgsag

I'm a PC-exclusive gamer with better specs than you have. :lol:

you having better specs then me proves what?

that your daddy has more money then me :lol:

[QUOTE="dgsag"][QUOTE="sabbath2gamer"]

:lol: i guess you dont know much about technology its ok you will learn soon enough little one let me put it plain and simple so even a tech noob like yourself can understand ok here i go are you ready? ok

technology (video cards to be specific) are outdated 1 year or even a couple months after its launch the 3870x2 will be outdtated by the 4*** series then the 4 by the next gen its life

there wow that sounds complex you might not understand it :(

you saying the x2 is fine now but not in the future who cares your not suppose to hold on to a sysytem yur whole life thats the thing with pc you have to upgrade sorry if you cant afford pc gaming or just pc hardware i suggest you go to your local best buy and buy an xbox 360 if you dont want to keep upgrading

good luck with the xbox happy gaming :)

sabbath2gamer

I'm a PC-exclusive gamer with better specs than you have. :lol:

you having better specs then me proves what?

that your daddy has more money then me :lol:

Way to disrespect over $1500 of my own well-earned cash.

I'm through with you. It's obvious you're just an ATI fanboy who can't deal with the fact that competition is going to make cards better than yours.

My previous point, about software dual-gpu solutions being much less reliable as time goes by, has only fallen on your deaf ears. Why people who won't even try to understand their peers give advice on this boards continues to allude me...

All you have proven is your arrogance and passionate fetish for ATI products. Good day and good riddance, sir. :)

[QUOTE="sabbath2gamer"][QUOTE="dgsag"][QUOTE="sabbath2gamer"]

:lol: i guess you dont know much about technology its ok you will learn soon enough little one let me put it plain and simple so even a tech noob like yourself can understand ok here i go are you ready? ok

technology (video cards to be specific) are outdated 1 year or even a couple months after its launch the 3870x2 will be outdtated by the 4*** series then the 4 by the next gen its life

there wow that sounds complex you might not understand it :(

you saying the x2 is fine now but not in the future who cares your not suppose to hold on to a sysytem yur whole life thats the thing with pc you have to upgrade sorry if you cant afford pc gaming or just pc hardware i suggest you go to your local best buy and buy an xbox 360 if you dont want to keep upgrading

good luck with the xbox happy gaming :)

dgsag

I'm a PC-exclusive gamer with better specs than you have. :lol:

you having better specs then me proves what?

that your daddy has more money then me :lol:

Way to disrespect over $1500 of my own well-earned cash.

I'm through with you. It's obvious you're just an ATI fanboy who can't deal with the fact that competition is going to make cards better than yours.

My previous point, about software dual-gpu solutions being much less reliable as time goes by, has only fallen on your deaf ears. Why people who won't even try to understand their peers give advice on this boards continues to allude me...

All you have proven is your arrogance and passionate fetish for ATI products. Good day and good riddance, sir. :)

lol i have said it so many times im not ati fanboy i even said in another thread i used to love my agp 7800

so you have just been owned

[QUOTE="sabbath2gamer"][QUOTE="dgsag"][QUOTE="sabbath2gamer"]

:lol: i guess you dont know much about technology its ok you will learn soon enough little one let me put it plain and simple so even a tech noob like yourself can understand ok here i go are you ready? ok

technology (video cards to be specific) are outdated 1 year or even a couple months after its launch the 3870x2 will be outdtated by the 4*** series then the 4 by the next gen its life

there wow that sounds complex you might not understand it :(

you saying the x2 is fine now but not in the future who cares your not suppose to hold on to a sysytem yur whole life thats the thing with pc you have to upgrade sorry if you cant afford pc gaming or just pc hardware i suggest you go to your local best buy and buy an xbox 360 if you dont want to keep upgrading

good luck with the xbox happy gaming :)

dgsag

I'm a PC-exclusive gamer with better specs than you have. :lol:

you having better specs then me proves what?

that your daddy has more money then me :lol:

Way to disrespect over $1500 of my own well-earned cash.

I'm through with you. It's obvious you're just an ATI fanboy who can't deal with the fact that competition is going to make cards better than yours.

My previous point, about software dual-gpu solutions being much less reliable as time goes by, has only fallen on your deaf ears. Why people who won't even try to understand their peers give advice on this boards continues to allude me...

All you have proven is your arrogance and passionate fetish for ATI products. Good day and good riddance, sir. :)

ooo ooo oo i wanna play

of course multi GPU's are going to become outdated, single GPU solutions will become outdated, Technology in general will become out dated with time. In-fact multi GPU solutions may last a bit longer than single GPU solutions due to their performance at higher resolutions. If they have good drivers now, they will for a long time and games wont stop supporting them any time soon. I am not saying or trying to justify someones investment towards a 3870X2 or 9800GX2 i am simply laying down the facts and to even think that any piece of hardware in a computer will not become outdated within 6 months is plain arrogant.

ooo ooo oo i wanna play

of course multi GPU's are going to become outdated, single GPU solutions will become outdated, Technology in general will become out dated with time. In-fact multi GPU solutions may last a bit longer than single GPU solutions due to their performance at higher resolutions. If they have good drivers now, they will for a long time and games wont stop supporting them any time soon. I am not saying or trying to justify someones investment towards a 3870X2 or 9800GX2 i am simply laying down the facts and to even think that any piece of hardware in a computer will not become outdated within 6 months is plain arrogant.

Lilgunney612

Yes, but HISTORICALLY, Dual-GPU solutions have proven to be much less reliable over the LONG-RUN to work to the BEST (using BOTH of the GPUS) to their ability. Single-GPU solutions don't have this specific problem.

Yes, but HISTORICALLY, Dual-GPU solutions have proven to be much less reliable over the LONG-RUN to work to the BEST (using BOTH of the GPUS) to their ability. Single-GPU solutions don't have this specific problem.

dgsag

I remember when people were saying that about dual-processor setups. Now it's unthinkable for any modern gamer to have less than two cores. The point of a lot of the dual-GPU solutions coming to the market isn't solely about the best performance you can get, but also to help move the technology driving multi-core graphics processing forward. That's what all this dual-GPU stuff is working towards ultimately, mark my words. Getting game companies to start programming for the use of dual-cards, then they can start making a serious move towards dual-GPU solutions on a single die (or at least a single card).

[QUOTE="dgsag"]

Yes, but HISTORICALLY, Dual-GPU solutions have proven to be much less reliable over the LONG-RUN to work to the BEST (using BOTH of the GPUS) to their ability. Single-GPU solutions don't have this specific problem.

RayvinAzn

I remember when people were saying that about dual-processor setups. Now it's unthinkable for any modern gamer to have less than two cores. The point of a lot of the dual-GPU solutions coming to the market isn't solely about the best performance you can get, but also to help move the technology driving multi-core graphics processing forward. That's what all this dual-GPU stuff is working towards ultimately, mark my words. Getting game companies to start programming for the use of dual-cards, then they can start making a serious move towards dual-GPU solutions on a single die (or at least a single card).

Yes, but the current generation of dual-GPU cards are hardly at that level of reliability.

Yes, but the current generation of dual-GPU cards are hardly at that level of reliability.

dgsag

No, but someone's got to buy it to help fund R&D. I'm not an early adopter myself, but there's something to be said for those who are.

[QUOTE="dgsag"]

Yes, but HISTORICALLY, Dual-GPU solutions have proven to be much less reliable over the LONG-RUN to work to the BEST (using BOTH of the GPUS) to their ability. Single-GPU solutions don't have this specific problem.

RayvinAzn

I remember when people were saying that about dual-processor setups. Now it's unthinkable for any modern gamer to have less than two cores. The point of a lot of the dual-GPU solutions coming to the market isn't solely about the best performance you can get, but also to help move the technology driving multi-core graphics processing forward. That's what all this dual-GPU stuff is working towards ultimately, mark my words. Getting game companies to start programming for the use of dual-cards, then they can start making a serious move towards dual-GPU solutions on a single die (or at least a single card).

[QUOTE="dgsag"]

Yes, but the current generation of dual-GPU cards are hardly at that level of reliability.

RayvinAzn

No, but someone's got to buy it to help fund R&D. I'm not an early adopter myself, but there's something to be said for those who are.

The point of dual core CPU's is far from just helping in games as you may know.The GPU market like the gaming cards are just for gaming.The industry of CPU's is not moved by what is better for gaming whereas for the GPU's,it's all about gaming and what's beter for it.

And as for long lastivity,there is no way that an X2 will last longer than a 9800GTX because the 9800GTX can keep up with the X2 and even beat it when the game has good multi GPU support.So why should i buy a dual GPU card when i can get a better or similarly performaing single card for the same price?

A slovenian computer company already has the GTX on stock, the asus one.Menfear

[QUOTE="RayvinAzn"][QUOTE="dgsag"]

Yes, but the current generation of dual-GPU cards are hardly at that level of reliability.

Musacircuit_2

No, but someone's got to buy it to help fund R&D. I'm not an early adopter myself, but there's something to be said for those who are.

The point of dual core CPU's is far from just helping in games as you may know.The GPU market like the gaming cards are just for gaming.The industry of CPU's is not moved by what is better for gaming whereas for the GPU's,it's all about gaming and what's beter for it.

And as for long lastivity,there is no way that an X2 will last longer than a 9800GTX because the 9800GTX can keep up with the X2 and even beat it when the game has good multi GPU support.So why should i buy a dual GPU card when i can get a better or similarly performaing single card for the same price?

Hey musa you never answered my question, how much is Nvidia paying you?

Or did you really make over 400 posts in just a week to advertise shamelessly for Nvidia because you wanted to?

No I can't imagine someone having that sad of a life, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, so ya how much money do they pay you to do this?

[QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"][QUOTE="RayvinAzn"][QUOTE="dgsag"]

Yes, but the current generation of dual-GPU cards are hardly at that level of reliability.

zipozal

No, but someone's got to buy it to help fund R&D. I'm not an early adopter myself, but there's something to be said for those who are.

The point of dual core CPU's is far from just helping in games as you may know.The GPU market like the gaming cards are just for gaming.The industry of CPU's is not moved by what is better for gaming whereas for the GPU's,it's all about gaming and what's beter for it.

And as for long lastivity,there is no way that an X2 will last longer than a 9800GTX because the 9800GTX can keep up with the X2 and even beat it when the game has good multi GPU support.So why should i buy a dual GPU card when i can get a better or similarly performaing single card for the same price?

Hey musa you never answered my question, how much is Nvidia paying you?

Or did you really make over 400 posts in just a week to advertise shamelessly for Nvidia because you wanted to?

No I can't imagine someone having that sad of a life, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, so ya how much money do they pay you to do this?

LOL JK I had to say it.

[QUOTE="RayvinAzn"][QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"]

WTF was the point of you post just hilarious that you cant grasp ATI COMPLETELY LOSING to nvidia in EVERY SINGLE PRICE RANGE.:lol::lol:

Musacircuit_2

ATI owns the AGP market. Not that it's a big market or anything, but it's still a market segment Nvidia hasn't done anything for.

ATI owns the HTPC market. Nvidia's cards can't even come close to competing with ATI's for HD movie decoding, especially if you want to use as few connectors as possible.

ATI's sub-$150 offerings also generally have a performance edge over Nvidia's, especially once the HD3830 hits the market. And until the 9800GTX comes out (and depending on further benchmarks, if we can all recall as far back as two or so weeks ago, their 9800GX2 reviews were screwy as all hell), ATI also has the performance crown between $400-$500. It doesn't matter if like SLI or Crossfire, all the benchmark sites agree that Nvidia doesn't have anything on the market right now to compete with the HD3870X2. Sure, that'll chagne in a week or so, but as it stands, ATI is still winning at that price point.

And let's not forget that ATI makes the graphics cards for both the Wii and Xbox 360 - the two most popular consoles on the market right now. I'm not going to debate whether it's better or worse than the Playstation 3's graphics, but from a sales perspective, ATI is crapping on Nvidia in the console market.

And don't even get me started on IGP's, ATI is dominating there. If they had a processor that could compete with Intel's Core 2 Duo line, AMD would be the unequivocal champion for budget builds.

And what is your argument about the 3870X2?That is similar to saying that ATI is owned at the launch of the 8800 when in realily they were actually truly owned after the 2900XT was launched.Ofcourse some companies will get there new products to market quicker but before the other company has a chance to respond,it's pointless to say that one company dominates that price point.

And where did we started talking about the financials?But if you want it this way than so be it?

Firstly you do know that the graphics card on the wii is a joke by todays standard and is very cheap thus the profit margin for ATI on one wii GPU will be much lower than for nvidia on one PS3 GPU.So the domination here is not as staightforward as you may think.And i dont know whether you know this but the ps3 outsells the 360 in world wide sales.Sure the 360 has more overall sales for now but the ps3 will catch it one day.Plus once the ps3 era kicks off it will be unstoppable and the next xbox will come in 2010 anyways as MS like to have shorter lifespan on their console just like the original xbox.

Plus nvidia has probably sold 10 times as many DX10 cards as ATI and they have basically made a fortune with the 8800.I hope you know that they make much more profit selling their own GPU's in the PC market than making them for consoles.Nvidia has even bad mouthed console gaming as i remember there was a topic in system wars.Befire the PS3 had even launched nvidia had come and said that the 8800GTX is twice as powerful as the RSX so it's apparant that they dont care and give a damn about console gaming.

Heck if nvidia did care about it all that much,they wouldnt have gone into a dispute with MS over the original xbox.

If not for nvidia you wouldnt be playing crysis.

I say that is a good thing. Crysis is terrible, i never want to see a horrible game like it again. It has the worst story, the most glitches online I have ever seen and a horribly designed anti cheat system. Almost everything is clientside, so you can hack every aspect of this game. You can play almost any game MAXED OUT, with a $1000 computer, but crysis forces people to spend double that just to get a playable FPS when maxed out. In my opinion, crysis doesn't look WAY better than some other games, but still requires so much power. I think it was poorly optimized.

I think you are a Nvidia fanboy.

[QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"][QUOTE="RayvinAzn"][QUOTE="dgsag"]

Yes, but the current generation of dual-GPU cards are hardly at that level of reliability.

zipozal

No, but someone's got to buy it to help fund R&D. I'm not an early adopter myself, but there's something to be said for those who are.

The point of dual core CPU's is far from just helping in games as you may know.The GPU market like the gaming cards are just for gaming.The industry of CPU's is not moved by what is better for gaming whereas for the GPU's,it's all about gaming and what's beter for it.

And as for long lastivity,there is no way that an X2 will last longer than a 9800GTX because the 9800GTX can keep up with the X2 and even beat it when the game has good multi GPU support.So why should i buy a dual GPU card when i can get a better or similarly performaing single card for the same price?

Hey musa you never answered my question, how much is Nvidia paying you?

Or did you really make over 400 posts in just a week to advertise shamelessly for Nvidia because you wanted to?

No I can't imagine someone having that sad of a life, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, so ya how much money do they pay you to do this?

[QUOTE="zipozal"][QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"][QUOTE="RayvinAzn"][QUOTE="dgsag"]

Yes, but the current generation of dual-GPU cards are hardly at that level of reliability.

Musacircuit_2

No, but someone's got to buy it to help fund R&D. I'm not an early adopter myself, but there's something to be said for those who are.

The point of dual core CPU's is far from just helping in games as you may know.The GPU market like the gaming cards are just for gaming.The industry of CPU's is not moved by what is better for gaming whereas for the GPU's,it's all about gaming and what's beter for it.

And as for long lastivity,there is no way that an X2 will last longer than a 9800GTX because the 9800GTX can keep up with the X2 and even beat it when the game has good multi GPU support.So why should i buy a dual GPU card when i can get a better or similarly performaing single card for the same price?

Hey musa you never answered my question, how much is Nvidia paying you?

Or did you really make over 400 posts in just a week to advertise shamelessly for Nvidia because you wanted to?

No I can't imagine someone having that sad of a life, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, so ya how much money do they pay you to do this?

Where do I sign up?

[QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"][QUOTE="zipozal"][QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"][QUOTE="RayvinAzn"][QUOTE="dgsag"]

Yes, but the current generation of dual-GPU cards are hardly at that level of reliability.

McJugga

No, but someone's got to buy it to help fund R&D. I'm not an early adopter myself, but there's something to be said for those who are.

The point of dual core CPU's is far from just helping in games as you may know.The GPU market like the gaming cards are just for gaming.The industry of CPU's is not moved by what is better for gaming whereas for the GPU's,it's all about gaming and what's beter for it.

And as for long lastivity,there is no way that an X2 will last longer than a 9800GTX because the 9800GTX can keep up with the X2 and even beat it when the game has good multi GPU support.So why should i buy a dual GPU card when i can get a better or similarly performaing single card for the same price?

Hey musa you never answered my question, how much is Nvidia paying you?

Or did you really make over 400 posts in just a week to advertise shamelessly for Nvidia because you wanted to?

No I can't imagine someone having that sad of a life, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, so ya how much money do they pay you to do this?

Where do I sign up?

[QUOTE="Menfear"]A slovenian computer company already has the GTX on stock, the asus one.firefox59

$432

[QUOTE="firefox59"][QUOTE="Menfear"]A slovenian computer company already has the GTX on stock, the asus one.Menfear

$432

The industry of CPU's is not moved by what is better for gaming whereas for the GPU's,it's all about gaming and what's beter for it.

And as for long lastivity,Musacircuit_2

If Nvidia was all about gaming and whats better for it we would have a true next gen card already. Like most companies Nvidia is all about making money.

The word you were looking for is longevity.

You can play almost any game MAXED OUT, with a $1000 computer, but crysis forces people to spend double that just to get a playable FPS when maxed out. In my opinion, crysis doesn't look WAY better than some other games, but still requires so much power. I think it was poorly optimized.

McJugga

If I had a dime for every time i read someone calling a sandbox game unoptimized. Name one game that has as much going on as Crysis.

The only thing thats poorly optimized is sli support. Which I admit is absurd considering Nvidia sponsored the game and its pc only. Multiplatform games like Oblivion and Bioshock have better sli utilization.

[QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"]

The industry of CPU's is not moved by what is better for gaming whereas for the GPU's,it's all about gaming and what's beter for it.

And as for long lastivity,Cranler

If Nvidia was all about gaming and whats better for it we would have a true next gen card already. Like most companies Nvidia is all about making money.

The word you were looking for is longevity.

And they should release new cards just for one game ya right.:roll:

Maybe they dont have the technology yet?

I fail to see your point how releasing the next uber card based on a new architecture the best thing for gaming.When current technology is good enough for all but one game which time will tell whether it is unoptimized piece of **** or just current technology is not good enough.

Maybe it's better for YOU but not for everybody as we can max out games on our current cards for longer.

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"]

The industry of CPU's is not moved by what is better for gaming whereas for the GPU's,it's all about gaming and what's beter for it.

And as for long lastivity,Musacircuit_2

If Nvidia was all about gaming and whats better for it we would have a true next gen card already. Like most companies Nvidia is all about making money.

The word you were looking for is longevity.

And they should release new cards just for one game ya right.:roll:

Maybe they dont have the technology yet?

I fail to see your point how releasing the next uber card based on a new architecture the best thing for gaming.When current technology is good enough for all but one game which time will tell whether it is unoptimized piece of **** or just current technology is not good enough.

Maybe it's better for YOU but not for everybody as we can max out games on our current cards for longer.

A cheap card like HD3850 is perfectly good in all games except crysis, wich it play at med/high.

In november 2007 ATI bashed nvidia to cut their price, the thing is that both ATI and nvidia want to compete in the buget segment, ATI dont give a ____ to have the uber card, untill we se that (hopfully in the 4000series) nvidia is not going to advance for a much faster card. It does NOT have anything with nvidia want their 88xx cards "last longer".

[QUOTE="Menfear"]

[QUOTE="firefox59"][QUOTE="Menfear"]A slovenian computer company already has the GTX on stock, the asus one.firefox59

$432

That is the european price, US is way cheaper, around 330 probably

[QUOTE="McJugga"]

You can play almost any game MAXED OUT, with a $1000 computer, but crysis forces people to spend double that just to get a playable FPS when maxed out. In my opinion, crysis doesn't look WAY better than some other games, but still requires so much power. I think it was poorly optimized.

Cranler

If I had a dime for every time i read someone calling a sandbox game unoptimized. Name one game that has as much going on as Crysis.

The only thing thats poorly optimized is sli support. Which I admit is absurd considering Nvidia sponsored the game and its pc only. Multiplatform games like Oblivion and Bioshock have better sli utilization.

Sorry, I meant that with all the glitches, half the times breaking stuff doesn't work properly and the physics glitches. Such as body getting stuk in the air. a door flying away, a power plant starts to spin around, an so on. So all that takes away from what is going on, because it dpesn't work.

[QUOTE="firefox59"][QUOTE="Menfear"]

[QUOTE="firefox59"][QUOTE="Menfear"]A slovenian computer company already has the GTX on stock, the asus one.Menfear

$432

That is the european price, US is way cheaper, around 330 probably

http://sector29.com/PRODUCT_PAGES/286/286-72049-ZT-9800GTX.html

They don't really have it in stock... Do they?

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[QUOTE="firefox59"][QUOTE="Menfear"]A slovenian computer company already has the GTX on stock, the asus one.animemog

$432

That is the european price, US is way cheaper, around 330 probably

http://sector29.com/PRODUCT_PAGES/286/286-72049-ZT-9800GTX.html

They don't really have it in stock... Do they?

I love it how musacircuit bashes the 3870 X2 because it's a dual GPU card, yet praised the 9800 GX2 as the gospel when it launched. :roll:

I love it how musacircuit bashes the 3870 X2 because it's a dual GPU card, yet praised the 9800 GX2 as the gospel when it launched. :roll:

Wesker776

lmao

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I love it how musacircuit bashes the 3870 X2 because it's a dual GPU card, yet praised the 9800 GX2 as the gospel when it launched. :roll:

domke13

lmao

Damn! Which one to get now: 9800 GTX or 3870 X2?

Damn! Which one to get now: 9800 GTX or 3870 X2?

juhansoo12

I love it how musacircuit bashes the 3870 X2 because it's a dual GPU card, yet praised the 9800 GX2 as the gospel when it launched. :roll:

Wesker776