future of PC gaming?

[QUOTE="dakan45"]

Hl2 stuttering issue report

As for games? Well i dont know what to begin with, even resident evil 5 has a problem that makes the game crash on startup, some claim that if you have a 22 monitor there is a problem and the solution is to change monitor:shock: nice job capcom. Other games like dead space have more minor problems, like the mouse accelaration which is more severe in games like ghostbusters, others have broken controls like rise of the argonauts, others simply crash randomly like silent hill homecoming or have weird lag spikes and others perfom like crap and have terrible texture and pc resources managament allocation like gta iv or saints row 2.

Whatever the case regarding multiplatforms its advisable to avoid the pc version due to endless issues because the developers are too bored to port the game right on the pc.

SemperFi10

That issue was fixed in an official patch.

Also, I didn't ask for evidence, of course there are buggy PC games, I'm just asking for solid evidence that PC ports are MORE buggy than console ports. I'd say they both have their bugs, but neither is prevalent over the other. Also, I'm not talking about system-related issues.

:roll: That patch came out suposelly to fix the issue and still the issue remains unfixed.... lol, i nean lol, you dont know anything and you try to prove me wrong...for crying out loud.

As for ports, well what i said is that console games ported to pc and called "pc version" have ton of weird issues. That will be all.

EDIT: there is even a user at that article link you gave me complaining that he still has the issue :lol:...let alone what a big fail that patch was!!

[QUOTE="zomglolcats"]No, I don't really see how I'm wrong about everything, and I'm not wasting my time arguing with you. You don't like PC gaming, that's fine. A lot of other people do. That's kind of why we visit the PC gaming forum.dakan45

After you posted how HL2 was more satisfying on PS3, I did an epic facepalm and gave up all hope for this being a rational and reasonable discussion.

[QUOTE="randino84"]

But now im hearing that devs are gunna start taking the route that modern warfare 2 took and just port console games to PC in order to save money.

-Unreal-

Abbi Heppi (I think thats how u spell her name) from G4tv.com was on AOTS i think yesterday or the day before and they brought up this issue becuz of the ruckus MW2 brought up. it worried me a bit cuz ive been doing all this research and getting ready to build my rig soon so i would of been upset if it was all a waste of time. but now its seems from all ur posts that PC gaming is gunna remain as is for a long time so im not worried anymore.

[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="zomglolcats"]No, I don't really see how I'm wrong about everything, and I'm not wasting my time arguing with you. You don't like PC gaming, that's fine. A lot of other people do. That's kind of why we visit the PC gaming forum.zomglolcats

After you posted how HL2 was more satisfying on PS3, I did an epic facepalm and gave up all hope for this being a rational and reasonable discussion.

this arguement dosent seem to be going anywhere so ima ask u both to please stop. Dakan45 i own a ps3 dude so its not like im leaving console gaming forever, im just expanding my horizons is all. maybe some games work better on console like u say and if thats the case then ill prolly be buying those games for my PS3 but i hear alot of games work better on a PC as well, a more recent example being Dragon Age Origins which m looking forward to getting once my PC's built. so please stop trolling on PC gaming it cuz ur only upseting everyone

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:roll: That patch came out suposelly to fix the issue and still the issue remains unfixed.... lol, i nean lol, you dont know anything and you try to prove me wrong...for crying out loud.

As for ports, well what i said is that console games ported to pc and called "pc version" have ton of weird issues. That will be all.

EDIT: there is even a user at that article link you gave me complaining that he still has the issue :lol:...let alone what a big fail that patch was!!

dakan45

Without actual game footage, I'll consider your problem just that, because it can't be anything else. The game runs perfectly fine even on an P4 2.4ghz, Geforce 4 Ti and 512 mb of RAM.

I highly doubt your problems are because of something that isn't supposed to happen, like saving every friggin minute, very annoying but I don't really like the HL series, so it could be as broken as Empire and I still wouldn't care.

[QUOTE="SemperFi10"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"]

Hl2 stuttering issue report

As for games? Well i dont know what to begin with, even resident evil 5 has a problem that makes the game crash on startup, some claim that if you have a 22 monitor there is a problem and the solution is to change monitor:shock: nice job capcom. Other games like dead space have more minor problems, like the mouse accelaration which is more severe in games like ghostbusters, others have broken controls like rise of the argonauts, others simply crash randomly like silent hill homecoming or have weird lag spikes and others perfom like crap and have terrible texture and pc resources managament allocation like gta iv or saints row 2.

Whatever the case regarding multiplatforms its advisable to avoid the pc version due to endless issues because the developers are too bored to port the game right on the pc.

dakan45

That issue was fixed in an official patch.

Also, I didn't ask for evidence, of course there are buggy PC games, I'm just asking for solid evidence that PC ports are MORE buggy than console ports. I'd say they both have their bugs, but neither is prevalent over the other. Also, I'm not talking about system-related issues.

:roll: That patch came out suposelly to fix the issue and still the issue remains unfixed.... lol, i nean lol, you dont know anything and you try to prove me wrong...for crying out loud.

As for ports, well what i said is that console games ported to pc and called "pc version" have ton of weird issues. That will be all.

EDIT: there is even a user at that article link you gave me complaining that he still has the issue :lol:...let alone what a big fail that patch was!!

Ah, well I suppose I was wrong about the "stuttering issue." That sucks. Oh well, good luck with it. There is no need to try to insult me like a child.

But, as for your "argument" about PC ports, you have yet to support your claim, you are simply making baseless accusations.

The future of PC gaming is the same as it was back in the early 90s, late 90s, 2003, 2007... Really the PC gaming scene hasn't gone anywhere. There is maybe less crap produced for PC than there used to be since those type of games and the super casual non-gamer market is targeted more at consoles/handhelds.

If you told me early this year that someone was going to make a single player dungeon crawler game I would have told you to put down the wacky kool-aid and the developer is probably out of their mind. Yet we have torchlight.

Sure the PC misses out on some of the big name console titles sometimes but I swear every time I end up playing one of those games I think to myself what was the big deal with this game.

The best way I like to describe PC gaming is like a living environment, the users players community is much more involved in PC gaming. Console gaming is a controlled experience you are told what to do and allowed to only do specific things. This has been changing slowly with more indie content becoming available on consoles but still I don't see the community really get involved in a game like you see on the PC.

I wouldn't expect pc games to go away, even if consoles cost nothing and everyone has one in their home and always make more money there are still people that want to develop for the platform. Not everyone wants to make a game just to make money so people still make games because they enjoy doing so and as long as they can make enough money to work on their next project that is all they need.

I am trying to think of a console game that I have really put lots of time into. I don't play FPS on consoles so I can't think of any game recently where after completing the story I have spent any real time with it other than sports games. In comparison the amount of time I have spent playing Civ IV is who knows how many hundred of hours.

There have been so many ideas that started as mods for a game from the community that has been taken further by developers.

The biggest deterrent for PC gaming I would have to say is the cost and effort of the player. Not everything is going to work with out some time investment by the player trying to make it work. This isn't something new and I would say in the later years now it is much easier that the early days to get software working with a wider range of equipment.

[QUOTE="GazaAli"]this is BS. we have seen some great PC games this year including Batman AA, DA:O as i hear, SF4...etc. even if you want to get a console, dont get a 360, at least go for a PS3. basically, PC+PS3=ultimate combo.randino84

alredy have a ps3 thats why i was deciding between PC and 360. PC has a lot features that make it way better in my opinion i just wanna be sure those features are around for a long time that way im not wasting my money

In HL2 Episode 2 my pc suffered a great amounting ot stuttering for no reason, i just got it for the ps3 latter and i enjoyed much more since the ps3 controller made the combat more satysfing...dakan45

HL2 more satisfying on a console... total loss of credibility there.

And moving on, yes your arguments are the same as every consolite's, except you're harping on this single "stuttering issue" for one game as the reason why console versions are superior. When you have to try to say that a controller with analog sticks is a better control scheme for an FPS than keyboard and mouse, you're reaching.

Naturally, there are going to be more technical issues overall on a PC version of a game. Why? Hardware variables. You release a console game on a PS3 or Xbox 360 in confidence that every PS3 or Xbox 360 will run the game off of the same processing hardware. With a PC, especially with custom builds, rarely are two PCs identical. The user himself/herself is going to be responsible for keeping their hardware and software current. It's true, you're not spoonfed on a PC.

I have the consoles and love them, and play on them often. But I'm not so elitist as to completely ignore the advantages of gaming on PC.

Pretty much what several people have said. PC is the only system where you can just get a good idea and say "Know what, think I am gonna make this into a video game/map/mod".

[QUOTE="dakan45"]In HL2 Episode 2 my pc suffered a great amounting ot stuttering for no reason, i just got it for the ps3 latter and i enjoyed much more since the ps3 controller made the combat more satysfing...bowlingotter

HL2 more satisfying on a console... total loss of credibility there.

And moving on, yes your arguments are the same as every consolite's, except you're harping on this single "stuttering issue" for one game as the reason why console versions are superior. When you have to try to say that a controller with analog sticks is a better control scheme for an FPS than keyboard and mouse, you're reaching.

I have the consoles and love them, and play on them often. But I'm not so elitist as to completely ignore the advantages of gaming on PC.

[QUOTE="bowlingotter"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"]In HL2 Episode 2 my pc suffered a great amounting ot stuttering for no reason, i just got it for the ps3 latter and i enjoyed much more since the ps3 controller made the combat more satysfing...GazaAli

HL2 more satisfying on a console... total loss of credibility there.

And moving on, yes your arguments are the same as every consolite's, except you're harping on this single "stuttering issue" for one game as the reason why console versions are superior. When you have to try to say that a controller with analog sticks is a better control scheme for an FPS than keyboard and mouse, you're reaching.

I have the consoles and love them, and play on them often. But I'm not so elitist as to completely ignore the advantages of gaming on PC.

so ive been struggling with the choice of either building a gaming PC or just buying a 360 and i finally decided that i wud build the PC because of how it has more features and whatnot. But now im hearing that devs are gunna start taking the route that modern warfare 2 took and just port console games to PC in order to save money. Do u all think theirs some truth to this or do u think PC gaming will remain superior to console gaming for quite some time? please tell me cuz i wud hate to think id be wasting my time building a PC if in 2 or 3 years PC and console gaming will be the same. :?

randino84

Don't you know that consoles are made with modified old PC parts? The PS3's graphics chip is a GeForce 7800 GTX - that was in PCs 5 years ago. The 360 has an old ATI.

Dragon Age was just released: The differences between the platforms couldn't be more pronounced - see Kevin Van Ord's great review. The PC Version has the highest rating.

Think about this: to get Dragon Age to a point where it would even execute on consoles, Bioware had to drastically rewrite all of the graphics: there's a lot of difference between 5-year-old technology and the latest that nVidia and ATI are manufacturing for the PC. Not to mention the difference with the CPUs. There is a very large difference between the core programming of Dragon Age for the PC and the consoles. Not at all similar.

[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="bowlingotter"]

HL2 more satisfying on a console... total loss of credibility there.

And moving on, yes your arguments are the same as every consolite's, except you're harping on this single "stuttering issue" for one game as the reason why console versions are superior. When you have to try to say that a controller with analog sticks is a better control scheme for an FPS than keyboard and mouse, you're reaching.

I have the consoles and love them, and play on them often. But I'm not so elitist as to completely ignore the advantages of gaming on PC.Arach666

LOL, have you played fps on consoles? The ai does not move and the crosshair does not lose accuracy at all, just like hl2.

There are hard pc fps with the ai moving and accuracy loss and leaning as a neccessary technique to survive.

What i said is not that fps are better on ps3....but ps3 has killzone 2 and resistance series anwyay...

What i said is that hl2 is such an easy game in fps gameplay that i enjoyed playing it more on a console for the extra challenge.

Seriously, no lean, no accuracy loss and the ai stands still all the time. Is this what you call a pc fps? Because if you ask me its totally like a console game, only the health does not regenarate, but apart from that hl2 feels more consolish and simplistic than the so hated cod4 that people are calling consolish.

There you go, thats a biased statement from the pc gamers.... hl2? a great pc game? Its a consolish game with dated graphics and technology.

Valve has yet to advance in technology in their games..

[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="zomglolcats"]No, I don't really see how I'm wrong about everything, and I'm not wasting my time arguing with you. You don't like PC gaming, that's fine. A lot of other people do. That's kind of why we visit the PC gaming forum.zomglolcats

After you posted how HL2 was more satisfying on PS3, I did an epic facepalm and gave up all hope for this being a rational and reasonable discussion.

[QUOTE="dakan45"]

[QUOTE="SemperFi10"]

That issue was fixed in an official patch.

Also, I didn't ask for evidence, of course there are buggy PC games, I'm just asking for solid evidence that PC ports are MORE buggy than console ports. I'd say they both have their bugs, but neither is prevalent over the other. Also, I'm not talking about system-related issues.SemperFi10

:roll: That patch came out suposelly to fix the issue and still the issue remains unfixed.... lol, i nean lol, you dont know anything and you try to prove me wrong...for crying out loud.

As for ports, well what i said is that console games ported to pc and called "pc version" have ton of weird issues. That will be all.

EDIT: there is even a user at that article link you gave me complaining that he still has the issue :lol:...let alone what a big fail that patch was!!

Ah, well I suppose I was wrong about the "stuttering issue." That sucks. Oh well, good luck with it. There is no need to try to insult me like a child.

But, as for your "argument" about PC ports, you have yet to support your claim, you are simply making baseless accusations.

Well, i don't know about the future, but i know that i have so many damn good pc games, which i haven't finished, lined up that i actually sometimes find myself sitting in front of my bookcase just staring at the dvd covers and cant decide what game to play :) If that isn't a nice problem to have i don't know what is. I think the pc gaming future is as bright as it always has been, of course some titles won`t be made for the pc, but so what when we get tons of good games anyways?

So chin up lads

[QUOTE="Arach666"]Oh,you again...dakan45

Wait, dakan, aren't you that kid that trolls the PC forums? I'm surprised you haven't been banned yet.

[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="Arach666"]Oh,you again...knight0151

Wait, dakan, aren't you that kid that trolls the PC forums? I'm surprised you haven't been banned yet.

This is a problem I've been struggling with for a while now. I love pc games, but they are slowly getting crappier by the second. Prime example being COD MWF 2. To me, I see it as a preview of the future for us. I bought the game, and regardless of the fact I have a great PC that plays it maxed at 60 FPS, it still has bugs that seem to crash at the worst of times. I'm still trying to find out why the single player mission im on wont even load. I also bought Dragon Age recently, despite the fact it works much better than COD, I still almost get the feeling I would've enjoyed it more on my Xbox. COD is the final blow to me, and I will no longer buy PC games, and am going to rebuy it for 360. I hate the controller, I hate paying for online, I hate the graphics, but at least it works.lordlunch2

they still need a pc to make all these console games so it will never die

they still need a pc to make all these console games so it will never die

LeadnSteel

people are misinterpretting the thread i was never asking if PC gaming is dying i was just asking if within like a few years if PC gaming will be basically the same as console gaming

[QUOTE="LeadnSteel"]

they still need a pc to make all these console games so it will never die

randino84

people are misinterpretting the thread i was never asking if PC gaming is dying i was just asking if within like a few years if PC gaming will be basically the same as console gaming

[QUOTE="zomglolcats"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"] No? Ofcourse you dont, you dont buy multiplatform games like i do, and trust me i buy alot of them, if you did then you would see how many of those games are full of problems on pc and how unoptimized they are, also the fact that there are no patches to fix the issues. As for the rest, its just a cheap excuse to say that you cant really debate with me and just back away thinking i am a troll. Thats where you are wrong too. I love pc gaming but i play casual games, all those games have those problems and the pc versions are a cheap joke. At the end having a pc for those games is a nightmare and you d be better of with a console. Thats what i said to pc to begin with, The tc did not ask if it worths to have a pc for pc games like eg: torchlight, he asked if its worth to have a pc to play multiplatforms in order to save money, but with the requirements and problems multiplatform games have on pc , let alone the price tag which is leanning towards being the same as the consoles.....well you are better of with a console. Thats what i said, not that i hate pc or anything, but ofcourse you got to hate me for making your favorite system to sound bad, sorry but for multiplatform games pc is a suicide and a no go, thats why people buy those games on consoles.dakan45

After you posted how HL2 was more satisfying on PS3, I did an epic facepalm and gave up all hope for this being a rational and reasonable discussion.

You know why HL2 is better on PC? I'll give you one reason, MODS. So, how are you enjoying those Source mods on your PS3? Oh, that's right, you aren't.

[QUOTE="knight0151"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"] Ohh man, not you again....dakan45

Wait, dakan, aren't you that kid that trolls the PC forums? I'm surprised you haven't been banned yet.

[QUOTE="randino84"]

[QUOTE="LeadnSteel"]

they still need a pc to make all these console games so it will never die

dakan45

people are misinterpretting the thread i was never asking if PC gaming is dying i was just asking if within like a few years if PC gaming will be basically the same as console gaming

You know why HL2 is better on PC? I'll give you one reason, MODS. So, how are you enjoying those Source mods on your PS3? Oh, that's right, you aren't.zomglolcats

LOL, i enjoyed it more because it was more challenging on ps3 and i wanted to play the compaign, i made no mention of usage of mods. Besides if i wanted mods i would plat fallout 3 on the pc or hl2, which i find impossible with all that stuttering.

HL2 is like a console fps, and i mean totally id rather play it on a console till valve decides to improve the game's complexity and technology to much the pc capabilities

You're not open-minded, you're as close-minded as they get. You try to pass off your opinion as facts and anybody who disagrees is completely wrong with no valid point and sucks at gaming.zomglolcats

Really? I am open minded as it gets because unlike you i dont troll the consoles and facepalm whoever has some valid reasons to prefer them over pc Its YOU who is close minded as it gets by saying the pc is perfect and superior with no logic.

You say hl2 is so good, yet i have pointed out reasons that by the "pc gamer" logic is not that good. and still you seem to ignore anything. Sorry but i am not gonna listen to fanatic hermits that are close minded to the tem PC= best platfrom ever. Because thats untrue nowadays.

Pc used to be great but all the developers ditch the pc nowadays and make cheap ports, therefore gaming is better on consoles and not on pc as far as you play multiplatforms like the Tc wanted. Pc is just full of problems and requirements for extreme hardware nowadays. You just dont wanna accept it. But i do accept it and i am a pc gamer!!

I bet this is the moment you start saying i am not a pc gamer, but i am a pc gamer, i am not a pc fanboy or completly fanatic to pc believing that is god himself and no one can boubt him.

However i have enough problems with the bad ports on the pc and from now on i will NEVER buy a game for the pc again. Not until the gamedevelopers stat treaing us equally as the console gamers.

But judging by the fact that even IW abandonded the pc gamers, i dont see that happening any time soon.

[QUOTE="SemperFi10"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"]

:roll: That patch came out suposelly to fix the issue and still the issue remains unfixed.... lol, i nean lol, you dont know anything and you try to prove me wrong...for crying out loud.

As for ports, well what i said is that console games ported to pc and called "pc version" have ton of weird issues. That will be all.

EDIT: there is even a user at that article link you gave me complaining that he still has the issue :lol:...let alone what a big fail that patch was!!

dakan45

Ah, well I suppose I was wrong about the "stuttering issue." That sucks. Oh well, good luck with it. There is no need to try to insult me like a child.

But, as for your "argument" about PC ports, you have yet to support your claim, you are simply making baseless accusations.

[QUOTE="knight0151"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"]

Wait, dakan, aren't you that kid that trolls the PC forums? I'm surprised you haven't been banned yet.

dakan45

This is a problem I've been struggling with for a while now. I love pc games, but they are slowly getting crappier by the second. Prime example being COD MWF 2. To me, I see it as a preview of the future for us. I bought the game, and regardless of the fact I have a great PC that plays it maxed at 60 FPS, it still has bugs that seem to crash at the worst of times. I'm still trying to find out why the single player mission im on wont even load. I also bought Dragon Age recently, despite the fact it works much better than COD, I still almost get the feeling I would've enjoyed it more on my Xbox. COD is the final blow to me, and I will no longer buy PC games, and am going to rebuy it for 360. I hate the controller, I hate paying for online, I hate the graphics, but at least it works.lordlunch2

I can make examples of crappy console ports such as Supreme Commander and Quake 4, they both have bad ports, it doesn't mean the PC is particularly worse than consoles in this aspect.SemperFi10

There are so many PC Games out there that I'm sure you haven't experienced all the Great ones yet. Doom 3, Half-Life 2, Crysis, Far Cry 2, STALKER, FEAR, QUAKE 4, Painkiller, Call of Duty 4, Unreal Tournament 3, Bioshock, and the list goes on. Just because there aren't any great new games for the PC at this very moment doesn't mean that the PC doesn't have some incredibly fun and awesome games. ;)UltimateGamer95

Seriously how hl2 is better on pc regarding the fps gameplay? Its so easy, and you dont need to be that accurate either.dakan45

Most multi platform games are better on PC. Considering you can't even run HL2 properly, I guess most games probably give you fits.Captain__Tripps

[QUOTE="UltimateGamer95"]There are so many PC Games out there that I'm sure you haven't experienced all the Great ones yet. Doom 3, Half-Life 2, Crysis, Far Cry 2, STALKER, FEAR, QUAKE 4, Painkiller, Call of Duty 4, Unreal Tournament 3, Bioshock, and the list goes on. Just because there aren't any great new games for the PC at this very moment doesn't mean that the PC doesn't have some incredibly fun and awesome games. ;)dakan45

[QUOTE="dakan45"]Seriously how hl2 is better on pc regarding the fps gameplay? Its so easy, and you dont need to be that accurate either.chandu83

[QUOTE="dakan45"]Seriously how hl2 is better on pc regarding the fps gameplay? Its so easy, and you dont need to be that accurate either.chandu83

[QUOTE="chandu83"][QUOTE="dakan45"]Seriously how hl2 is better on pc regarding the fps gameplay? Its so easy, and you dont need to be that accurate either.dakan45

[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="UltimateGamer95"]There are so many PC Games out there that I'm sure you haven't experienced all the Great ones yet. Doom 3, Half-Life 2, Crysis, Far Cry 2, STALKER, FEAR, QUAKE 4, Painkiller, Call of Duty 4, Unreal Tournament 3, Bioshock, and the list goes on. Just because there aren't any great new games for the PC at this very moment doesn't mean that the PC doesn't have some incredibly fun and awesome games. ;)UltimateGamer95

[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="randino84"]

people are misinterpretting the thread i was never asking if PC gaming is dying i was just asking if within like a few years if PC gaming will be basically the same as console gaming

UltimateGamer95

lolz sounds awsome man count me in. lets flood them devs with complaints

It's good to know that you agree with a girl's opinion ;)UltimateGamer95

Ohh that explains why you dont start a war on me, girls are less offensive.

lolz sounds awsome man count me in. lets flood them devs with complaintsrandino84

Sadly i bet we will be ignored. But i live for the day that gamedevelopers will open their minds and start focusing on pc....just think about it, dx11 on a game with reasonable requirements. Imagine a game like gta iv to run in dx11 with amazing graphics but reasonable requiremts. I live to see that kinda graphics with so big maps and reasonable requirements.

[QUOTE="zomglolcats"]You know why HL2 is better on PC? I'll give you one reason, MODS. So, how are you enjoying those Source mods on your PS3? Oh, that's right, you aren't.dakan45

LOL, i enjoyed it more because it was more challenging on ps3 and i wanted to play the compaign, i made no mention of usage of mods. Besides if i wanted mods i would plat fallout 3 on the pc or hl2, which i find impossible with all that stuttering.

HL2 is like a console fps, and i mean totally id rather play it on a console till valve decides to improve the game's complexity and technology to much the pc capabilities

You're not open-minded, you're as close-minded as they get. You try to pass off your opinion as facts and anybody who disagrees is completely wrong with no valid point and sucks at gaming.zomglolcats

Really? I am open minded as it gets because unlike you i dont troll the consoles and facepalm whoever has some valid reasons to prefer them over pc Its YOU who is close minded as it gets by saying the pc is perfect and superior with no logic.

You say hl2 is so good, yet i have pointed out reasons that by the "pc gamer" logic is not that good. and still you seem to ignore anything. Sorry but i am not gonna listen to fanatic hermits that are close minded to the tem PC= best platfrom ever. Because thats untrue nowadays.

Pc used to be great but all the developers ditch the pc nowadays and make cheap ports, therefore gaming is better on consoles and not on pc as far as you play multiplatforms like the Tc wanted. Pc is just full of problems and requirements for extreme hardware nowadays. You just dont wanna accept it. But i do accept it and i am a pc gamer!!

I bet this is the moment you start saying i am not a pc gamer, but i am a pc gamer, i am not a pc fanboy or completly fanatic to pc believing that is god himself and no one can boubt him.

However i have enough problems with the bad ports on the pc and from now on i will NEVER buy a game for the pc again. Not until the gamedevelopers stat treaing us equally as the console gamers.

But judging by the fact that even IW abandonded the pc gamers, i dont see that happening any time soon.

[QUOTE="dakan45"]

[QUOTE="zomglolcats"]

LOL, i enjoyed it more because it was more challenging on ps3 and i wanted to play the compaign, i made no mention of usage of mods. Besides if i wanted mods i would plat fallout 3 on the pc or hl2, which i find impossible with all that stuttering.

HL2 is like a console fps, and i mean totally id rather play it on a console till valve decides to improve the game's complexity and technology to much the pc capabilities

[QUOTE="zomglolcats"]You're not open-minded, you're as close-minded as they get. You try to pass off your opinion as facts and anybody who disagrees is completely wrong with no valid point and sucks at gaming.zomglolcats

Really? I am open minded as it gets because unlike you i dont troll the consoles and facepalm whoever has some valid reasons to prefer them over pc Its YOU who is close minded as it gets by saying the pc is perfect and superior with no logic.

You say hl2 is so good, yet i have pointed out reasons that by the "pc gamer" logic is not that good. and still you seem to ignore anything. Sorry but i am not gonna listen to fanatic hermits that are close minded to the tem PC= best platfrom ever. Because thats untrue nowadays.

Pc used to be great but all the developers ditch the pc nowadays and make cheap ports, therefore gaming is better on consoles and not on pc as far as you play multiplatforms like the Tc wanted. Pc is just full of problems and requirements for extreme hardware nowadays. You just dont wanna accept it. But i do accept it and i am a pc gamer!!

I bet this is the moment you start saying i am not a pc gamer, but i am a pc gamer, i am not a pc fanboy or completly fanatic to pc believing that is god himself and no one can boubt him.

However i have enough problems with the bad ports on the pc and from now on i will NEVER buy a game for the pc again. Not until the gamedevelopers stat treaing us equally as the console gamers.

But judging by the fact that even IW abandonded the pc gamers, i dont see that happening any time soon.

[QUOTE="UltimateGamer95"]It's good to know that you agree with a girl's opinion ;)dakan45

Ohh that explains why you dont start a war on me, girls are less offensive.

lolz sounds awsome man count me in. lets flood them devs with complaintsrandino84

Sadly i bet we will be ignored. But i live for the day that gamedevelopers will open their minds and start focusing on pc....just think about it, dx11 on a game with reasonable requirements. Imagine a game like gta iv to run in dx11 with amazing graphics but reasonable requiremts. I live to see that kinda graphics with so big maps and reasonable requirements.

[QUOTE="SemperFi10"]I can make examples of crappy console ports such as Supreme Commander and Quake 4, they both have bad ports, it doesn't mean the PC is particularly worse than consoles in this aspect.dakan45

We'll just have to disagree I suppose.