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#101 dakan45
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Ok then lests discuss pc gaming...

TC::"should i get a pc to play mutliplatform games in order to save money or should i get a x360?"

Dakan45:"Multiplatforms on pc are a bad choice because they have bad optimazation and many weird issues plus bad control (broken mouse accelaration due to porting) Also in some games x360 buttons appear in the screen and the price of the games is rising like mw2 plus they took out modding capabilties and dedidated servers. Also you wont be saving any money with the insane/weird requirements multiplats have. So you will be better off with a console if you ask me and avoid all the trouble"

Zomglolcats:"Pc is not that bad and it has rts and other games that are not on a console"

Dakan45:"Yeah i agree but the tc asked about where is best to buy multiplatforms and did not talked about pc exclusives. But since you bring it up even valve has that terrible unfixable problem with source engine sttutering and multiplatforms dont really get much patching from the developers nowadays. So its better to have a console since you dont get anything if you buy a multiplaform for pc"

I was under the understanding that thats what we were talking about so far. If i missunderstound something then we can talk about it again!!!

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#102 chandu83
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You kidding me? That part in the beginning was quite action focused, unlike the rest, and killing the metrocops was very easy, no need to be accurate just unload on them.dakan45

How do you unload ON then without being accurate???
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#103 dakan45
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How do you unload ON then without being accurate???chandu83

Simple oldschool fps gamepaly, pistols are meant to be fired fast and without losing accuracy.

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#104 UltimateGamer95
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[QUOTE="chandu83"]How do you unload ON then without being accurate???dakan45

Simple oldschool fps gamepaly, pistols are meant to be fired fast and without losing accuracy.

Oh but it can in hl2 you just have to know how to do it ;)
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#105 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dakan45"]

[QUOTE="chandu83"]How do you unload ON then without being accurate???UltimateGamer95

Simple oldschool fps gamepaly, pistols are meant to be fired fast and without losing accuracy.

Oh but it can in hl2 you just have to know how to do it ;)

Honestly pistol is my favorite weapon in hl2, cant say the same for the smg, which is not that accurate and runs out of ammo fast. (When ai carry 15 rounds of ammo you cant hope to reffill your ammo fast)
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#106 UltimateGamer95
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[QUOTE="UltimateGamer95"][QUOTE="dakan45"]

Simple oldschool fps gamepaly, pistols are meant to be fired fast and without losing accuracy.

dakan45

Oh but it can in hl2 you just have to know how to do it ;)

Honestly pistol is my favorite weapon in hl2, cant say the same for the smg, which is not that accurate and runs out of ammo fast. (When ai carry 15 rounds of ammo you cant hope to reffill your ammo fast)

I can't wait until I pit my FPS skills against yours :D. that sure ought to be interesting ;)

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#107 dakan45
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Sigh wish half life 2 had more shooting in it, like half life did :)
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#108 UltimateGamer95
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Sigh wish half life 2 had more shooting in it, like half life did :)dakan45
Yeah the Gravity gun takes up most of the gameplay unfortunately even though it is fun
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#109 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dakan45"]Sigh wish half life 2 had more shooting in it, like half life did :)UltimateGamer95
Yeah the Gravity gun takes up most of the gameplay unfortunately even though it is fun

Couldnt agree more, especially thoe turrets that cant be destrroyed with the smg...:( god i miss half life i hope they finish black mesa someday.
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#110 badtaker
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Valve has yet to advance in technology in their games..

dakan45

True.I hope HL:EP3 or CS2 will have better graphics and we will see a new Source Engine.

But valve games are fun

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#111 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dakan45"]

Valve has yet to advance in technology in their games..

badtaker

True.I hope HL:EP3 or CS2 will have better graphics and we will see a new Source Engine.

But valve games are fun

No more source engine please, its dated and has that stutter issues. its time for a new engine.
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#112 DiffusionE
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I suggest tweaking & optimizing Cryengine 3 for PC exclusive games.
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#113 dakan45
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I suggest tweaking & optimizing Cryengine 3 for PC exclusive games.DiffusionE
Well said, even better let every developer out there use cryengine 2 for pc games.
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#114 DanielDust
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[QUOTE="DiffusionE"]I suggest tweaking & optimizing Cryengine 3 for PC exclusive games.dakan45
Well said, even better let every developer out there use cryengine 2 for pc games.

Sure, they all must have 1 million $ + to spend on CE2. Not even big companies jump on the CE 2 wagon because of the price and requirements, even if you tweak it and make it "lighter", you'll still lose some of your customers. + If all games used CE 2 they would all be almost the same, that's why we have graphics "engines", and diverse games, because they DON'T use the same engine.
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#115 DiffusionE
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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="DiffusionE"]I suggest tweaking & optimizing Cryengine 3 for PC exclusive games.DanielDust
Well said, even better let every developer out there use cryengine 2 for pc games.

Sure, they all must have 1 million $ + to spend on CE2. Not even big companies jump on the CE 2 wagon because of the price and requirements, even if you tweak it and make it "lighter", you'll still lose some of your customers. + If all games used CE 2 they would all be almost the same, that's why we have graphics "engines", and diverse games, because they DON'T use the same engine.

I was merely suggesting that it would be reasonable for certain big-budget AAA exclusives to give CE2 or CE3 a try. Especially if they're FPS games. Sure you'd lose a small portion of your original customers, but you'll gain many more. The requirements don't have to be that high if optimized properly. I think someone needs to be bold enough to take that step, like Crytek did with Crysis two years ago.
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#116 dakan45
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Then how the hell they made this game? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoqUm_IRz0c It is on cryengine 2 Also its needless to point out how mant games are out there using the unreal engine....
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#117 DanielDust
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[QUOTE="dakan45"]Then how the hell they made this game? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoqUm_IRz0c It is on cryengine 2 Also its needless to point out how mant games are out there using the unreal engine....

Yes and they're all pretty much the same, the only way the devs can distract you from feeling that is if they actually try their best to make a great environment, like Mass Effect, Mirror's Edge, Bioshock, etc. And I'm sure you know MoB was a failure and they barely made profits, because the game was so expensive to develop and it was (probably still is) broken. It feels exactly like Crysis, like a crappy Crysis mod, that costs money.
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#118 dakan45
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Well i wouldnt say they all look the same, i mean compared gears of war with mass effect, visibly diffirent graphics. Rise of the argonauts looks alot like gears of war in graphics. So you gotta give props to gamedevelopers for managing to change the looks of the unreal engine. Whatever the case may be, i was pointing out that they made a cheap terrible game with cryengine 2. They an uknown studio spend money to make a game on cryengine 2. Why cant any other developers make a game on cryengine 2? But i guess you did answer that question by saying that they are too smart to spend so much on developing on an new engine and they focus on the rest and thats why its profitable to develop in unreal engine instead.
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#119 CDudu
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Build a new PC because of what everyone stated above plus Blizzard.

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#120 ic4ruz
Member since 2008 • 150 Posts

About half a year ago i began to get tired of the PC and for some reason i was beginning to think that games were more enjoyable on consoles.

So i went out and bought a Xbox 360 Elite, It was alright first, bought gears of war 2 and played it, i did not finish it because the disc got scratched and it was unplayable :x

After a few days i began to hate the xbox 360, i felt kind of forced and limited. I played Alot of demos of games and didn't really like it, i even tried some games i had on the PC and i thought it was much more fun to play on the PC.

For me consoles feels restricted and forced. I find the PC to be much more exciting, i like all the variables and freedom the pc has to offer ! And strangely i like to deal with technical problems :)

I've found one game that is better on consoles and that is FIFA. Its the only game i play on the console.

Anyway i deeply regret getting it and it was a huge waste of money :x

p.s. sorry for bad english

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#121 Vexx88
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Blazblue Pc is coming out. Ill be good.