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#1 Mischievity
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Running on a GTX 460 and an i5 2310 Quad, I get around 20 frames per second with everything on very high(And the settings are within the GPU memory limits), at 1080p.

WTF is wrong with this game? Picked it up on steam during the summer sale. The game runs fine on a mixture of high/very high with 33 Draw distance, at 60fps, but when I up a few more settings, it goes ballistic.

Any patches?

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#2 lucfonzy
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Badly optimised. I'm also running it on a gtx460, (granted my processor is nowhere near as good as yours) but I've got most settings on medium.
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#3 C_Rule
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If you bought it through Steam, it should be fully updated. Don't waste another minute stressing out about GTA IV. From performance to gameplay, the game is just crap. Forget about it and move on.
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#4 dsgsdfgf
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Overclock your cpu. The game is poorly made and doesn't run well on anything. It demands alot from the cpu.

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#5 C_Rule
Member since 2008 • 9816 Posts

Overclock your cpu. The game is poorly made and doesn't run well on anything. It demands alot from the cpu.

dsgsdfgf
The main problem seems to be it's VRAM leaks. @1440x900, it maxes out my VRAM.
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#6 SaltyMeatballs
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If you bought it through Steam, it should be fully updated. Don't waste another minute stressing out about GTA IV. From performance to gameplay, the game is just crap. Forget about it and move on.C_Rule
No, the game is awesome. But yes it's badly optimised.
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Running on a GTX 460 and an i5 2310 Quad, I get around 20 frames per second with everything on very high(And the settings are within the GPU memory limits), at 1080p.

WTF is wrong with this game? Picked it up on steam during the summer sale. The game runs fine on a mixture of high/very high with 33 Draw distance, at 60fps, but when I up a few more settings, it goes ballistic.

Any patches?

Mischievity

Dude, its just a couple of things:

1) Shadows: put them on high not very high (they destroy every gfx card with less then 1.5 gigs)
2) View distance and detail distance (never put view higher then 30 and detail higher then 50)

Look at my specs ;)

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#8 guildclaws
Member since 2009 • 7921 Posts

Don't except the game to run above 30 FPS, it's badly optimized

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#9 melenkurio
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oO i have a 460 Gtx too and i i use the graphic enhancer mod that puts everything alot higher than on the normal settings and i got around 25 fps which is perfectly playable for a game like GTA. And i didnt overclock my card.

Maybe the modded version is just alot better optimized so that it only needs the same performance as the normal game, because the enhanced graphics look better than GTA 5 will look probably.

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#10 Whiteknight19
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mines running smooth as hell 40-50fp everythink set on very high and 16x AA and distance is like aroun 60

i72600k @ 4.8

16gig of ram

single 580gtx

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#11 Whiteknight19
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mines running smooth as hell 40-50fp everythink set on very high and 16x AA and distance is like aroun 60

i72600k @ 4.8

16gig of ram

single 580gtx

Whiteknight19

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/231/2011072100001v.jpg/

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#12 Mischievity
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[QUOTE="Whiteknight19"]

mines running smooth as hell 40-50fp everythink set on very high and 16x AA and distance is like aroun 60

i72600k @ 4.8

16gig of ram

single 580gtx

Whiteknight19

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/231/2011072100001v.jpg/

Did you have to boast?

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#13 deactivated-5e7f8a21de9dd
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20fps? You lucky duck.

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#14 nameless12345
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Your PC is too weak for maxing it out at a good framerate.

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#15 Mischievity
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Your PC is too weak for maxing it out at a good framerate.

nameless12345

So it takes a developer's PC to max it out? 0_0

Or just absolute high end parts.

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#16 Whiteknight19
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[QUOTE="Whiteknight19"]

[QUOTE="Whiteknight19"]

mines running smooth as hell 40-50fp everythink set on very high and 16x AA and distance is like aroun 60

i72600k @ 4.8

16gig of ram

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Mischievity

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/231/2011072100001v.jpg/

Did you have to boast?

not really

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#17 s_emi_xxxxx
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just turn down the settings abit. you'd still enjoy this incredible game (it is badly optimized though)
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#18 melenkurio
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Your PC is too weak for maxing it out at a good framerate.

nameless12345

His graphic card isnt atleast. I just tested it without my graphic mod and i get 40+ fps on highest settings. 35+ if drving really fast with a car

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#19 True_Sounds
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Your PC is too weak for maxing it out at a good framerate.

Mischievity

So it takes a developer's PC to max it out? 0_0

Or just absolute high end parts.

Just wait till the next gen consoles come out to play it. By then the hardware will be much cheaper.

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#20 mitu123
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It's cpu dependent isn't it?

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#21 Inconsistancy
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mines running smooth as hell 40-50fp everythink set on very high and 16x AA and distance is like aroun 60

i72600k @ 4.8

16gig of ram

single 580gtx

Whiteknight19

That's AF, not AA, the game doesn't support AA, and you're certainly not super sampling it 16x, since that'd be 15360x8640 for the render. x.x

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#22 Mischievity
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It's cpu dependent isn't it?

mitu123

I have a quad core i5(2310). I really don't know what else it wants.

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#23 MK-Professor
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

It's cpu dependent isn't it?

Mischievity

I have a quad core i5(2310). I really don't know what else it wants.

it is just a quad core at 2.9 GHz, OC to 4 GHz and you will see a big performance jump

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I have -

Phenom II X6 1055T 3.20GHz
GTX 460 1GB
4GB Ram

I only get around 20FPS :(

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#25 dsgsdfgf
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I don't think that cpu can be overclocked that much. It's not unlocked.

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#26 SaltyMeatballs
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It's cpu dependent isn't it?

mitu123
Due to poor optimisation. C'mon a good speed quad core should handle that. 360 has 3 cores only 2 available for games. PS3 version is even worse than 360 version despite Cell processor being better. Poorly optimised.
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#27 SaltyMeatballs
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I have -

Phenom II X6 1055T 3.20GHz
GTX 460 1GB
4GB Ram

I only get around 20FPS :(

gameofthering

Even after patching? That sucks.

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#28 MK-Professor
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

It's cpu dependent isn't it?

SaltyMeatballs

Due to poor optimisation. C'mon a good speed quad core should handle that. 360 has 3 cores only 2 available for games. PS3 version is even worse than 360 version despite Cell processor being better. Poorly optimised.

consoles handle this game because they run at low settings with 20-25 fps.

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#29 SPBoss
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Badly optimised. I'm also running it on a gtx460, (granted my processor is nowhere near as good as yours) but I've got most settings on medium.lucfonzy
i have mine with custom textures, my eflc folder is almost 19gb.. and it takes up 1.6gb ram when i play.. how comes my 260 is playing everything on high/very high?
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#30 sirlag01
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This game is kind of a joke, it doesn't even support AA, whereas San Andreas did... it's just unbelievable, it's like they're taking steps backwards in terms of world size (only one city, SA had 3 major cities) and of course advanced graphics settings.

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#31 mitu123
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This game is giving me trouble on my GTX460 as well and I overclocked it, I think a cpu with 3.5+ghz would help.

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#32 gameofthering
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[QUOTE="gameofthering"]

I have -

Phenom II X6 1055T 3.20GHz
GTX 460 1GB
4GB Ram

I only get around 20FPS :(

SaltyMeatballs

Even after patching? That sucks.

It's the steam version. So it should already be auto patched, shouldn't it?

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#33 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]

[QUOTE="gameofthering"]

I have -

Phenom II X6 1055T 3.20GHz
GTX 460 1GB
4GB Ram

I only get around 20FPS :(

gameofthering

Even after patching? That sucks.

It's the steam version. So it should already be auto patched, shouldn't it?

yes, steam is fully patched to 1.0.7.0 which is the fastest running version of the game. i get a steady 60fps on my rig everything max at 1680x1050, plus my own graphics mod to tweak the shaders around. my old system, intel E6600 core 2 duo and ATI 4870 couldnt max the game at all over 25fps...my new one can. The game enjoys beefy CPUs with heavy OCing and lots of VRAM

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#34 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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Running on a GTX 460 and an i5 2310 Quad, I get around 20 frames per second with everything on very high(And the settings are within the GPU memory limits), at 1080p.

WTF is wrong with this game? Picked it up on steam during the summer sale. The game runs fine on a mixture of high/very high with 33 Draw distance, at 60fps, but when I up a few more settings, it goes ballistic.

Any patches?

Mischievity
You do realise upping the vehicle density puts huge stress on the CPU right? The console versions only have the slider at 30. Putting it at 100 doesn't just triple the number of pedestrians and cars, it fills the roads and streets with people and cars. The game isn't THAT badly optimized, its just that people expect too much.
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#35 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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This game is kind of a joke, it doesn't even support AA, whereas San Andreas did... it's just unbelievable, it's like they're taking steps backwards in terms of world size (only one city, SA had 3 major cities) and of course advanced graphics settings.

sirlag01
Once again, people don't understand why it doesn't have AA and automatically label it a console port. GTA 4 had very advanced rendering methods for its time. It uses a deffered renderer which makes normal AA very buggy and problematic in DX9. As for graphics settings, obviously has more than SA.
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#36 Mischievity
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[QUOTE="Mischievity"]

Running on a GTX 460 and an i5 2310 Quad, I get around 20 frames per second with everything on very high(And the settings are within the GPU memory limits), at 1080p.

WTF is wrong with this game? Picked it up on steam during the summer sale. The game runs fine on a mixture of high/very high with 33 Draw distance, at 60fps, but when I up a few more settings, it goes ballistic.

Any patches?

ocstew

You do realise upping the vehicle density puts huge stress on the CPU right? The console versions only have the slider at 30. Putting it at 100 doesn't just triple the number of pedestrians and cars, it fills the roads and streets with people and cars. The game isn't THAT badly optimized, its just that people expect too much.

So that's what that is... Will have to lower it a bit, see if it changes anything.

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#37 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]

[QUOTE="gameofthering"]

I have -

Phenom II X6 1055T 3.20GHz
GTX 460 1GB
4GB Ram

I only get around 20FPS :(

gameofthering

Even after patching? That sucks.

It's the steam version. So it should already be auto patched, shouldn't it?

I guess so. Yep, that sucks indeed. Very random game.

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#38 sirlag01
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[QUOTE="sirlag01"]

This game is kind of a joke, it doesn't even support AA, whereas San Andreas did... it's just unbelievable, it's like they're taking steps backwards in terms of world size (only one city, SA had 3 major cities) and of course advanced graphics settings.

ocstew

Once again, people don't understand why it doesn't have AA and automatically label it a console port. GTA 4 had very advanced rendering methods for its time. It uses a deffered renderer which makes normal AA very buggy and problematic in DX9. As for graphics settings, obviously has more than SA.

LOL yet it doesn't even have AA. I'd rather take SA's graphics with AA over GTAIV's, and GTAIV's graphics aren't even good.

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#39 Inconsistancy
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LOL yet it doesn't even have AA. I'd rather take SA's graphics with AA over GTAIV's, and GTAIV's graphics aren't even good.

sirlag01

Yea, looks bad. (fromhttp://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/26452629/what-were-you-just-playing-post-screenshots-56k-noooo?page=193&tag=topics%3Blastpage, clyde2525's post)

Before you say something silly like that, go ahead and look at that thread.

You can also supersample, much more costly than AA, but it works.

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#40 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="sirlag01"]LOL yet it doesn't even have AA. I'd rather take SA's graphics with AA over GTAIV's, and GTAIV's graphics aren't even good.

Inconsistancy

Yea, looks bad. (fromhttp://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/26452629/what-were-you-just-playing-post-screenshots-56k-noooo?page=193&tag=topics%3Blastpage, clyde2525's post)

Before you say something silly like that, go ahead and look at that thread.

You can also supersample, much more costly than AA, but it works.

That's a mod though.

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#41 sirlag01
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[QUOTE="sirlag01"]LOL yet it doesn't even have AA. I'd rather take SA's graphics with AA over GTAIV's, and GTAIV's graphics aren't even good.

Inconsistancy

Yea, looks bad. (fromhttp://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/26452629/what-were-you-just-playing-post-screenshots-56k-noooo?page=193&tag=topics%3Blastpage, clyde2525's post)

Before you say something silly like that, go ahead and look at that thread.

You can also supersample, much more costly than AA, but it works.

Haha, that's a mod. The game doesn't natively support AA, and yes, WAY more costly. Don't make me laugh. Also, that MOD makes the graphics look better. I'm guessing the reason that person uses the mod is to make the game look better??? So in other words, YES the default graphics aren't that good, so don't be a hypocrite.

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#42 Inconsistancy
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Haha, that's a mod. The game doesn't natively support AA, and yes, WAY more costly. Don't make me laugh. Also, that MOD makes the graphics look better. I'm guessing the reason that person uses the mod is to make the game look better??? So in other words, YES the default graphics aren't that good, so don't be a hypocrite.

sirlag01

Hypocrite, do you know what that word means? Let me help "a person who pretends to be what he/she is not", where am I pretending to be something I'm not? The game's not a hypocrite, not a person in the first place and it's not faking anything, it's just modded. (okay, it's faking lighting, but every game does that, it's not like raytracing is realistically doable in real time)

And, yes, I'm aware it's a mod, and that the guy who's using it is doing so to make it look better, that's obvious as hell, what's your point? The game Can look that pretty, it's not like the mods are some payed DLC, the only thing limiting your access to those graphics is your garbage hardware and personal laziness.

Maybe I'll appease you: the game looks damn pretty if you're not lazy or cheap. If you are, enjoy your semi ugly game, that still looks better than the stock GTA:SA.

And since it's a differed renderer, isn't MLAA available? (would appear to be according to forms I just looked up) So, oh wait, your crap hardware is preventing you from using MLAA, and even if you had it, forcing a driver option is probably modding to you.

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#43 sirlag01
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[QUOTE="sirlag01"]


Haha, that's a mod. The game doesn't natively support AA, and yes, WAY more costly. Don't make me laugh. Also, that MOD makes the graphics look better. I'm guessing the reason that person uses the mod is to make the game look better??? So in other words, YES the default graphics aren't that good, so don't be a hypocrite.

Inconsistancy

Hypocrite, do you know what that word means? Let me help "a person who pretends to be what he/she is not", where am I pretending to be something I'm not? The game's not a hypocrite, not a person in the first place and it's not faking anything, it's just modded. (okay, it's faking lighting, but every game does that, it's not like raytracing is realistically doable in real time)

And, yes, I'm aware it's a mod, and that the guy who's using it is doing so to make it look better, that's obvious as hell, what's your point? The game Can look that pretty, it's not like the mods are some payed DLC, the only thing limiting your access to those graphics is your garbage hardware and personal laziness.

Maybe I'll appease you: the game looks damn pretty if you're not lazy or cheap. If you are, enjoy your semi ugly game, that still looks better than the stock GTA:SA.

And since it's a differed renderer, isn't MLAA available? (would appear to be according to forms I just looked up) So, oh wait, your crap hardware is preventing you from using MLAA, and even if you had it, forcing a driver option is probably modding to you.



Wow, your whole first paragraph you tried to explain to me what a hypocrite is, wow, just wow. There's nothing garbage or crap about my hardware, all I'm saying is, firstly the game has no AA, FACT. The game has alright graphics, FACT. I don't want to mod the game to look good, it should be good. Even modded it's no Crysis anyways. I'd still rather take SA's graphics with proper AA over GTAIV's. You've got issues pal.

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#45 1076751
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I play just cause 2 on max settings and the FPS never drops below 60. It also looks much prettier compare to GTA4. Pisses me off when game dev gets lazy but charges you full price.

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#46 Mischievity
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I play just cause 2 on max settings and the FPS never drops below 60. It also looks much prettier compare to GTA4. Pisses me off when game dev gets lazy but charges you full price.

1076751

Just Cause 2 is potentially the best open world game ever made. The amount of things you can do with an unbreakable hook is insane.

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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

[QUOTE="sirlag01"]


Haha, that's a mod. The game doesn't natively support AA, and yes, WAY more costly. Don't make me laugh. Also, that MOD makes the graphics look better. I'm guessing the reason that person uses the mod is to make the game look better??? So in other words, YES the default graphics aren't that good, so don't be a hypocrite.

sirlag01

Hypocrite, do you know what that word means? Let me help "a person who pretends to be what he/she is not", where am I pretending to be something I'm not? The game's not a hypocrite, not a person in the first place and it's not faking anything, it's just modded. (okay, it's faking lighting, but every game does that, it's not like raytracing is realistically doable in real time)

And, yes, I'm aware it's a mod, and that the guy who's using it is doing so to make it look better, that's obvious as hell, what's your point? The game Can look that pretty, it's not like the mods are some payed DLC, the only thing limiting your access to those graphics is your garbage hardware and personal laziness.

Maybe I'll appease you: the game looks damn pretty if you're not lazy or cheap. If you are, enjoy your semi ugly game, that still looks better than the stock GTA:SA.

And since it's a differed renderer, isn't MLAA available? (would appear to be according to forms I just looked up) So, oh wait, your crap hardware is preventing you from using MLAA, and even if you had it, forcing a driver option is probably modding to you.



Wow, your whole first paragraph you tried to explain to me what a hypocrite is, wow, just wow. There's nothing garbage or crap about my hardware, all I'm saying is, firstly the game has no AA, FACT. The game has alright graphics, FACT. I don't want to mod the game to look good, it should be good. Even modded it's no Crysis anyways. I'd still rather take SA's graphics with proper AA over GTAIV's. You've got issues pal.

so do you, your own laziness. Took me a whole 10 seconds to install that same graphics mod

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#48 sirlag01
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[QUOTE="sirlag01"]

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Hypocrite, do you know what that word means? Let me help "a person who pretends to be what he/she is not", where am I pretending to be something I'm not? The game's not a hypocrite, not a person in the first place and it's not faking anything, it's just modded. (okay, it's faking lighting, but every game does that, it's not like raytracing is realistically doable in real time)

And, yes, I'm aware it's a mod, and that the guy who's using it is doing so to make it look better, that's obvious as hell, what's your point? The game Can look that pretty, it's not like the mods are some payed DLC, the only thing limiting your access to those graphics is your garbage hardware and personal laziness.

Maybe I'll appease you: the game looks damn pretty if you're not lazy or cheap. If you are, enjoy your semi ugly game, that still looks better than the stock GTA:SA.

And since it's a differed renderer, isn't MLAA available? (would appear to be according to forms I just looked up) So, oh wait, your crap hardware is preventing you from using MLAA, and even if you had it, forcing a driver option is probably modding to you.



wis3boi

Wow, your whole first paragraph you tried to explain to me what a hypocrite is, wow, just wow. There's nothing garbage or crap about my hardware, all I'm saying is, firstly the game has no AA, FACT. The game has alright graphics, FACT. I don't want to mod the game to look good, it should be good. Even modded it's no Crysis anyways. I'd still rather take SA's graphics with proper AA over GTAIV's. You've got issues pal.


so do you, your own laziness. Took me a whole 10 seconds to install that same graphics mod

Good for you. Note sarcasm.

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#49 mitu123
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Heavy CPU OCing eh?

I play just cause 2 on max settings and the FPS never drops below 60. It also looks much prettier compare to GTA4. Pisses me off when game dev gets lazy but charges you full price.

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I agree to that.
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#50 masterdrat
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Turning off shadows on my old Q9300 gives me a constant fps over 30. Of couse I didn't max detail draw distance but I don't notice the difference.