Is RIFT the best MMORPG

IMO, it sucks it is inferior to wow in everyway. No where near as fun. Not to mention peoples account get hacked all the time, it is a major problem. Both my characters were robbed and I never played again. Before you blame me, google how much of a huge security problem that game has. I went back to wow right after playing rift and the difference was night and day. I am all for a new mmo to replace wow, but rift is not that game.

Got it monday and havent started it yet but from all the videos i've seen it looks good. Pretty much eq, wow with more polished gameplay and graphics. Don't forget wow started out very good but every expansion made it suck more and more now game is so simple its at the retarded level. Next expansion they'll probably add an autoplay button.

I'll probably start it soon the beastmaster got my interest.

Got it monday and havent started it yet but from all the videos i've seen it looks good. Pretty much eq, wow with more polished gameplay and graphics. Don't forget wow started out very good but every expansion made it suck more and more now game is so simple its at the retarded level. Next expansion they'll probably add an autoplay button.

I'll probably start it soon the beastmaster got my interest.

Sleepyz

Not at all, gameplay is not near as good. dungeons are boring. If you have played wow and enjoyed it, you will be disappointed

No, Everquest 1 is :D

I've always considered WoW the greatest MMO out there, but after playing Rift I had a very hard time trying to play WoW again. So, yeah I do think Rift is the best MMO out there right.

As you said in your first post "IMO" stop shoving your damn opinion down peoples throats.machinegunbear

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Got it monday and havent started it yet but from all the videos i've seen it looks good. Pretty much eq, wow with more polished gameplay and graphics. Don't forget wow started out very good but every expansion made it suck more and more now game is so simple its at the retarded level. Next expansion they'll probably add an autoplay button.

I'll probably start it soon the beastmaster got my interest.

Not at all, gameplay is not near as good. dungeons are boring. If you have played wow and enjoyed it, you will be disappointed

[QUOTE="Sleepyz"]

Got it monday and havent started it yet but from all the videos i've seen it looks good. Pretty much eq, wow with more polished gameplay and graphics. Don't forget wow started out very good but every expansion made it suck more and more now game is so simple its at the retarded level. Next expansion they'll probably add an autoplay button.

I'll probably start it soon the beastmaster got my interest.

Not at all, gameplay is not near as good. dungeons are boring. If you have played wow and enjoyed it, you will be disappointed

No, Everquest 1 is :D

pelvist

this put a smile on my face :)

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No, Everquest 1 is :D

this put a smile on my face :)

RIFT is slightly better than WoW, yes but it's also the same thing. I personally like FFXI more than any other MMO.nintendog66

Do people still play FFXI? I never got into it and always feel like I missed out when people talk about it. I might end up trying it out.

IMO, it sucks it is inferior to wow in everyway. No where near as fun. Not to mention peoples account get hacked all the time, it is a major problem. Both my characters were robbed and I never played again. Before you blame me, google how much of a huge security problem that game has. I went back to wow right after playing rift and the difference was night and day. I am all for a new mmo to replace wow, but rift is not that game.

Advid-Gamer

That's really bad....specially for a brand new MMO...

yeah I think it is pretty awesome. I love the class system, and the "open party" system

It is a pretty damn awesome MMO, but I wouldn't say that it is the best. My personal list from best to worst MMO's is:

FFXI
Ragnarok Online
Guild Wars
Aion
Rift
Everquest
Everquest 2
WoW

I'm loving it, so yeah IMO I'd say its the best.

Rift is not WoW, anyone who says that was just seeing what they wanted to see. Listening to WoW fanboys is the last thing you should do. It shares the same similarities to WoW as just about every other mmo does these days. I play Rift and enjoy it, I quit WoW after level 40.

Conclusion: It is a matter of taste. No one game is better than the other to anyone but yourself.

Rift is not WoW, anyone who says that was just seeing what they wanted to see. Listening to WoW fanboys is the last thing you should do. It shares the same similarities to WoW as just about every other mmo does these days. I play Rift and enjoy it, I quit WoW after level 40.

Conclusion: It is a matter of taste. No one game is better than the other to anyone but yourself.

vfibsux

Well, not necessarily. I understand what you are trying to say but some games do things better than others....

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Rift is not WoW, anyone who says that was just seeing what they wanted to see. Listening to WoW fanboys is the last thing you should do. It shares the same similarities to WoW as just about every other mmo does these days. I play Rift and enjoy it, I quit WoW after level 40.

Conclusion: It is a matter of taste. No one game is better than the other to anyone but yourself.

FelipeInside

Well, not necessarily. I understand what you are trying to say but some games do things better than others....

I'd problably (incorrectly) get labeled a WoW fanboy; I love it, I think its a good game, and it opened what was a niche genre to pretty much the entire world and made it accessable.

With that said, I really enjoyed Rift because it does the same thing, yet does it in its own way. Its familiar, and new. Theyre similiar, and they should be considering theyre the same genre and especially because they nail the fundamentals (good stability and a good community), but they have their unique differences as well.

rift reminded me too much of all other MMOs that I stopped and uninstalled :P

I think rift is ok but I really the same way about WoW/cata as well. once you burn though all the single player content your left with PVP, dungeons and raids.

PvP imo will always be unbalanced since there's always gonna be someone better geared then you and not much you can do about that until you get the same gear.

Dungeons and raids are really only as fun as your group has some common sense and the will to try and fail and try again and learn.

I did like the rifts a lot they sort of added a open world raid environment that everybody can enjoy.

Rift collectors edition is on steam right now $40.

[QUOTE="nintendog66"]RIFT is slightly better than WoW, yes but it's also the same thing. I personally like FFXI more than any other MMO.Phoenix534

Do people still play FFXI? I never got into it and always feel like I missed out when people talk about it. I might end up trying it out.

I think it's pretty fun, what about you guys?machinegunbear

Its too new to be considerd the best. It has to get more conent to compete against WoW, but it is a great game.

I played both WOW cata (it's better but not by much) and RIFT (once the newness wears off gets old fast) and they both get old real fast same ol different day and rinse repeat - Burned out on MMO's

I played FFIX (need a job apply at FFIX) till WOW came out (WOW vanilla kicks all) - Played EQ till I couldn't handle the 8-bit sprite like graphics. I played EQ II and too much too late and not done very well.

I played Runscape this has got to be one of the worst along with maplestory have to be on some serious drugs or missing alot of brain cells to like this stuff.

I played Runes of Magic and like it along with LOTRO but both get old especially the running around bit.

Did the GW and was fortunate to sell it on E-bay not even gonna touch GW 2.

EVE is good for being deep and complex don't expect any satisfaction from lvlin tho on this one.

The really deep and complex are SP RPG's they have it and without the chucky (I do kinda miss barrens chat tho) jokes or the loot stealers.

So MMO fanbouy - FAIL

the SOE's avoid like typhoid mary - I mean any MMO that offers all for one low price is still not low enuff.

If any I would say find a good WOW private server (yes they are legal now) and play WOW vanilla and see what goodness is cause after the 12yr olds whines about it's too hard WOW listened and we got cata.

RIFT is a flash in the pan and it will burn out quicker then Madonna (shes over 40 so yea) on a friday nite.

My 2 and iam outa here

The opoinions about wow in this thread are not informed. I see people saying they quit at level 40. If you haven't played WOW up to level 85 and played end game content you have no clue about WOW. All the good stuff happens at top levels. I have played all the otherr MMO's out there and they are a joke compared to WOW. Final Fantasy XI is a joke comprard to WOW. Final Fantasy is a kiddy MMO. Like if you have the I.Q of a 7 year old then that would be a good game. If you want to play a game that takes skill and mastery then you want to play WOW. Rift is just a WOW wanna be with not nearyl as much content and really lacking elements. Yes all the games try to copy WOW now, even Final Fantasy made it so you can level by yourself. Which is what WOW did and they always got flack about it from Final Fantasy people. Now Final Fantasy players are like, Oh it's so cool our game is like WOW now. I'm like right dude, werene't you the guy who said WOW sucked because you could level up easily. FacePalm. EverQuest 1 was a good game at the time but it's outdated and so is Everquest 2. No real skill needed to play those games. WOW is and will always be the best MMO out there. It has awesome PVP and PVE elements and the skill needed to play at high levels is unparalleled. If you only played an MMO up to level 25 or 35 and never made it to a top level you should probably not give your opinion about the games. THat's like reviewing a game after playing 5 minutes of the game.

No, Everquest 1 is :D

pelvist

The opoinions about wow in this thread are not informed. I see people saying they quit at level 40. If you haven't played WOW up to level 85 and played end game content you have no clue about WOW. All the good stuff happens at top levels. I have played all the otherr MMO's out there and they are a joke compared to WOW. Final Fantasy XI is a joke comprard to WOW. Final Fantasy is a kiddy MMO. Like if you have the I.Q of a 7 year old then that would be a good game. If you want to play a game that takes skill and mastery then you want to play WOW. Rift is just a WOW wanna be with not nearyl as much content and really lacking elements. Yes all the games try to copy WOW now, even Final Fantasy made it so you can level by yourself. Which is what WOW did and they always got flack about it from Final Fantasy people. Now Final Fantasy players are like, Oh it's so cool our game is like WOW now. I'm like right dude, werene't you the guy who said WOW sucked because you could level up easily. FacePalm. EverQuest 1 was a good game at the time but it's outdated and so is Everquest 2. No real skill needed to play those games. WOW is and will always be the best MMO out there. It has awesome PVP and PVE elements and the skill needed to play at high levels is unparalleled. If you only played an MMO up to level 25 or 35 and never made it to a top level you should probably not give your opinion about the games. THat's like reviewing a game after playing 5 minutes of the game.

Maxxgold

The opoinions about wow in this thread are not informed. I see people saying they quit at level 40. If you haven't played WOW up to level 85 and played end game content you have no clue about WOW. All the good stuff happens at top levels. I have played all the otherr MMO's out there and they are a joke compared to WOW. Final Fantasy XI is a joke comprard to WOW. Final Fantasy is a kiddy MMO. Like if you have the I.Q of a 7 year old then that would be a good game. If you want to play a game that takes skill and mastery then you want to play WOW. Rift is just a WOW wanna be with not nearyl as much content and really lacking elements. Yes all the games try to copy WOW now, even Final Fantasy made it so you can level by yourself. Which is what WOW did and they always got flack about it from Final Fantasy people. Now Final Fantasy players are like, Oh it's so cool our game is like WOW now. I'm like right dude, werene't you the guy who said WOW sucked because you could level up easily. FacePalm. EverQuest 1 was a good game at the time but it's outdated and so is Everquest 2. No real skill needed to play those games. WOW is and will always be the best MMO out there. It has awesome PVP and PVE elements and the skill needed to play at high levels is unparalleled. If you only played an MMO up to level 25 or 35 and never made it to a top level you should probably not give your opinion about the games. THat's like reviewing a game after playing 5 minutes of the game.

Maxxgold

Played wow for years and downloaded rift trial a couple of days ago, its very similar in everything except the visuals which for an MMO are pretty nice. Will probably buy it in the steam sale this weekend as its only 20 quid and play at least to max level, whether it will replace wow for me it's debatable. Strangely I can max everything on Rift and hover between 30-40 fps and on wow i only get 40-50 fps sometimes dipping to under 30 fps in cities yet the differences in graphics are vast. I guess wow is optimised to play mainly on low end non gaming PCs, as even though my PC isn't the best, it shouldnt struggle with wow.SirDigby84

I respect your opinion and all, but WOW has a totally different visual art style from Rift. Rift would be more comparable to Warhammer Online, which sports the same engine (i think). All of these MMO's I have played extensively, except for Rift, in which I only played the 7 day trial. I wanted to like it but it doesn't hold a candle to World of Warcraft. And the combat animations have too much "glitter." You know how they have all those flashy effects. Kinda gets annoying after a while. But I'm just nit-picking now.. sorry.

Maybe a 7-day trial of Rift isn't a fair assessment of the game, but I think it's meant to give you a general idea and gameplay experience that you will be getting into. With that said, it just wasn't for me but I'm glad people are enjoying it. It's considered a success.

No, Rift imo is really not good. Wrote my first review ever for Rift. Was probably a little harsher than I should have been but the game in all seriousness when compared with the competition is just nothing special. Some things had been fixed I think, like, how the game judged how you performed in Rift's/Invasions (You got better rewards than other people by clicking the most buttons... the guy clicking 1 1 1 1 1 1 over and over would beat a player playing skillfully and get more rewards. I think they tried "fixing" this. Now you are only competing against yourself than other people, but if you want the best rewards, just keyboard smash a lot and you win).

Alot of little things like listed above really made the game a pretty poor experience.

No, Everquest 1 is :D

pelvist

No, No a close second LOTRO is #1 :D ;)

[QUOTE="Maxxgold"]

The opoinions about wow in this thread are not informed. I see people saying they quit at level 40. If you haven't played WOW up to level 85 and played end game content you have no clue about WOW. All the good stuff happens at top levels. I have played all the otherr MMO's out there and they are a joke compared to WOW. Final Fantasy XI is a joke comprard to WOW. Final Fantasy is a kiddy MMO. Like if you have the I.Q of a 7 year old then that would be a good game. If you want to play a game that takes skill and mastery then you want to play WOW. Rift is just a WOW wanna be with not nearyl as much content and really lacking elements. Yes all the games try to copy WOW now, even Final Fantasy made it so you can level by yourself. Which is what WOW did and they always got flack about it from Final Fantasy people. Now Final Fantasy players are like, Oh it's so cool our game is like WOW now. I'm like right dude, werene't you the guy who said WOW sucked because you could level up easily. FacePalm. EverQuest 1 was a good game at the time but it's outdated and so is Everquest 2. No real skill needed to play those games. WOW is and will always be the best MMO out there. It has awesome PVP and PVE elements and the skill needed to play at high levels is unparalleled. If you only played an MMO up to level 25 or 35 and never made it to a top level you should probably not give your opinion about the games. THat's like reviewing a game after playing 5 minutes of the game.

Advid-Gamer

You agree with this statement yet state you didnt reach max level on rift and made the assumption its end game would be no better.... hypocrit much?

Same raid instance now for what 6-7-8 months? dont worry though im sure 2 rehashed old instances and "dem hard modes, repeating the same raids but harder" is so much fun as your silly little guild mates obsess over damage metres.

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"][QUOTE="Maxxgold"]

The opoinions about wow in this thread are not informed. I see people saying they quit at level 40. If you haven't played WOW up to level 85 and played end game content you have no clue about WOW. All the good stuff happens at top levels. I have played all the otherr MMO's out there and they are a joke compared to WOW. Final Fantasy XI is a joke comprard to WOW. Final Fantasy is a kiddy MMO. Like if you have the I.Q of a 7 year old then that would be a good game. If you want to play a game that takes skill and mastery then you want to play WOW. Rift is just a WOW wanna be with not nearyl as much content and really lacking elements. Yes all the games try to copy WOW now, even Final Fantasy made it so you can level by yourself. Which is what WOW did and they always got flack about it from Final Fantasy people. Now Final Fantasy players are like, Oh it's so cool our game is like WOW now. I'm like right dude, werene't you the guy who said WOW sucked because you could level up easily. FacePalm. EverQuest 1 was a good game at the time but it's outdated and so is Everquest 2. No real skill needed to play those games. WOW is and will always be the best MMO out there. It has awesome PVP and PVE elements and the skill needed to play at high levels is unparalleled. If you only played an MMO up to level 25 or 35 and never made it to a top level you should probably not give your opinion about the games. THat's like reviewing a game after playing 5 minutes of the game.

Birdy09

You agree with this statement yet state you didnt reach max level on rift and made the assumption its end game would be no better.... hypocrit much?

Same raid instance now for what 6-7-8 months? dont worry though im sure 2 rehashed old instances and "dem hard modes, repeating the same raids but harder" is so much fun as your silly little guild mates obsess over damage metres.

Nope not at all, I said I didnt like the dungeons I played any of them, and at level 50 you rerun them just harder like heroics, if I didnt like them the first I not going to like the harder version, I never said a word about raids because I never did one, I just commented on what I played and it was like 48 hrs play time between my characters, which is alot of time to give a mmo to decide if you like it or not.

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[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"] I approve this statement Advid-Gamer

You agree with this statement yet state you didnt reach max level on rift and made the assumption its end game would be no better.... hypocrit much?

Same raid instance now for what 6-7-8 months? dont worry though im sure 2 rehashed old instances and "dem hard modes, repeating the same raids but harder" is so much fun as your silly little guild mates obsess over damage metres.

Nope not at all, I said I didnt like the dungeons I played any of them, and at level 50 you rerun them just harder like heroics, if I didnt like them the first I not going to like the harder version, I never said a word about raids because I never did one, I just commented on what I played and it was like 48 hrs play time between my characters, which is alot of time to give a mmo to decide if you like it or not.

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

IMO, it sucks it is inferior to wow in everyway. No where near as fun. Not to mention peoples account get hacked all the time, it is a major problem. Both my characters were robbed and I never played again. Before you blame me, google how much of a huge security problem that game has. I went back to wow right after playing rift and the difference was night and day. I am all for a new mmo to replace wow, but rift is not that game.

FelipeInside

That's really bad....specially for a brand new MMO...

I am really enjoying RIFT right now. It's a nice change of pace from WoW, which had become unbelievably stale for me. The huge rift invasions are pretty awesome, but at the same time they can get annoying when you just want to quest and a huge pack of mobs run you down. If you're looking for a game with similar mechanics to WoW, but a better playerbase and new features, go for RIFT.

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

IMO, it sucks it is inferior to wow in everyway. No where near as fun. Not to mention peoples account get hacked all the time, it is a major problem. Both my characters were robbed and I never played again. Before you blame me, google how much of a huge security problem that game has. I went back to wow right after playing rift and the difference was night and day. I am all for a new mmo to replace wow, but rift is not that game.

FelipeInside

That's really bad....specially for a brand new MMO...

To be fair, it was a simple exploit that any new MMO could have. And Trion was quick to fix the issue. They're support for the game is pretty good.

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[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

IMO, it sucks it is inferior to wow in everyway. No where near as fun. Not to mention peoples account get hacked all the time, it is a major problem. Both my characters were robbed and I never played again. Before you blame me, google how much of a huge security problem that game has. I went back to wow right after playing rift and the difference was night and day. I am all for a new mmo to replace wow, but rift is not that game.

Phoenix534

That's really bad....specially for a brand new MMO...

To be fair, it was a simple exploit that any new MMO could have. And Trion was quick to fix the issue. They're support for the game is pretty good.

I got my account hacked (whose a noob? this guy is). They were great about recovering my items and even gave me the option of rolling back my character. With the new coin lock system it's pretty much impossible to do any damage even if they did get your account info. Not to mention the authenticator available for iphones and android phones.

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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

That's really bad....specially for a brand new MMO...

Revolution_DDM

To be fair, it was a simple exploit that any new MMO could have. And Trion was quick to fix the issue. They're support for the game is pretty good.

I got my account hacked (whose a noob? this guy is). They were great about recovering my items and even gave me the option of rolling back my character. With the new coin lock system it's pretty much impossible to do any damage even if they did get your account info. Not to mention the authenticator available for iphones and android phones.

That authenticator is another reason I need to get rid of the crap phone I have and get a real smartphone. The Droid Bionic looks pretty awesome.

I played it for 3 months, it was fun but i cancelled and will put my money towards The Old Republic

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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

That's really bad....specially for a brand new MMO...

Revolution_DDM

To be fair, it was a simple exploit that any new MMO could have. And Trion was quick to fix the issue. They're support for the game is pretty good.

I got my account hacked (whose a noob? this guy is). They were great about recovering my items and even gave me the option of rolling back my character. With the new coin lock system it's pretty much impossible to do any damage even if they did get your account info. Not to mention the authenticator available for iphones and android phones.

I wouldnt say it is the best, however the saboutour was a lot of fun and I would argue it is one of the better themepark mmos out there. Looks a lot better than SWTOR and is better than AION. I feel like if they continue to work on it and improve upon its faults it might become something awesome, as long as they dont start slacking they are on the right track.

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"] I approve this statement Birdy09

You agree with this statement yet state you didnt reach max level on rift and made the assumption its end game would be no better.... hypocrit much?

Same raid instance now for what 6-7-8 months? dont worry though im sure 2 rehashed old instances and "dem hard modes, repeating the same raids but harder" is so much fun as your silly little guild mates obsess over damage metres.

I approve of this statement.

That last paragraph you mentioned is what really made me give up on WoW, hey lets recycle 2 old instances. WoW just isnt any fun anymore. I havent played FFXI, so I am curious, what are the mature themes?