IW Responds to Boycott! UPDATE: BL Welcomes New Overlords!!

Our ol pals Infinity Ward have responded to the boycott!

One thing is for certain: there is no stopping IW: their best selling game will soon be here!! And I for one, welcome our new Developer Overlords. I'd like to remind their CEO of IW that as a trusted Forum Chancellor, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their private servers!

If you find yourself alone, camping in the high resolution fields of MW2, do not be troubled for you are in a private server and you are already dead!!

The boycotters of L4D2 ceased the burning of an effigy of my ol' pal Doug Lombardi and those blastered Lombardi 4 Life T-Shirts...

In order to form picket lines outside the Castle of Infinity Ward!!

If there's anything I hate about today's PC gaming scene, its devs who publicly add (or in this case, remove) features from their game, advertise it, and then attack the audience for not liking what they've done.Barbariser

[QUOTE="Barbariser"]If there's anything I hate about today's PC gaming scene, its devs who publicly add (or in this case, remove) features from their game, advertise it, and then attack the audience for not liking what they've done.MadCat46

[QUOTE="MadCat46"][QUOTE="Barbariser"]If there's anything I hate about today's PC gaming scene, its devs who publicly add (or in this case, remove) features from their game, advertise it, and then attack the audience for not liking what they've done.HOMIE_G64

[QUOTE="Barbariser"]If there's anything I hate about today's PC gaming scene, its devs who publicly add (or in this case, remove) features from their game, advertise it, and then attack the audience for not liking what they've done.MadCat46

When I think of mods, I don't think of servers with tweaked weapon and vehicle settings. I think of total conversion mods that are essentially entirely different games. Counter-Strike, Day Of Defeat, Team Fortress, Left 4 Dead, etc. All mods that turned into fully fledged games years down the road. That is, with the exception of Left 4 Dead which received Valve backing during it's development and went retail.

"IW has cited numbers of people online playing illegal copies of Modern Warfare up to 60 percent" What?!?Pvt_r3d

I call bs too. That would make it just about the most easily cracked multiplayer game in the world. Most of the time you simply can't play pirated games online.

When I think of mods, I don't think of servers with tweaked weapon and vehicle settings. I think of total conversion mods that are essentially entirely different games. Counter-Strike, Day Of Defeat, Team Fortress, Left 4 Dead, etc. All mods that turned into fully fledged games years down the road. That is, with the exception of Left 4 Dead which received Valve backing during it's development and went retail.

RearNakedChoke

The thing is there is really only a couple of huge mods like that for CoD4 which considering it's huge populatrity just kind of furthers my point a bit. There just isn't all that much enthusiasm, I suppose is the word, in the modding community for this game simply because there are a ton more games out there similar in play style and much more mod friendly.

[QUOTE="RearNakedChoke"]

When I think of mods, I don't think of servers with tweaked weapon and vehicle settings. I think of total conversion mods that are essentially entirely different games. Counter-Strike, Day Of Defeat, Team Fortress, Left 4 Dead, etc. All mods that turned into fully fledged games years down the road. That is, with the exception of Left 4 Dead which received Valve backing during it's development and went retail.

MadCat46

The thing is there is really only a couple of huge mods like that for CoD4 which considering it's huge populatrity just kind of furthers my point a bit. There just isn't all that much enthusiasm, I suppose is the word, in the modding community for this game simply because there are a ton more games out there similar in play style and much more mod friendly.

Valve games are the kings of mods. Literally thousands of options to choose from. Admittedly, a lot of those are going to be pretty bad. But I used to have about 20 different mods on my steam list. Many of which I played regularly.

[QUOTE="Pvt_r3d"]"IW has cited numbers of people online playing illegal copies of Modern Warfare up to 60 percent" What?!?RearNakedChoke

I call bs too. That would make it just about the most easily cracked multiplayer game in the world. Most of the time you simply can't play pirated games online.

i'm getting tired of this i guess its time i left the pc gaming world most of you users are starting to drive me more crazy

Like I said, dedicated are no doubt better, but this really shouldn't be a deal breaker unless you were already swaying on the edge, let alone petitions and boycotts.MadCat46

[QUOTE="MadCat46"]

[QUOTE="RearNakedChoke"]

When I think of mods, I don't think of servers with tweaked weapon and vehicle settings. I think of total conversion mods that are essentially entirely different games. Counter-Strike, Day Of Defeat, Team Fortress, Left 4 Dead, etc. All mods that turned into fully fledged games years down the road. That is, with the exception of Left 4 Dead which received Valve backing during it's development and went retail.

RearNakedChoke

The thing is there is really only a couple of huge mods like that for CoD4 which considering it's huge populatrity just kind of furthers my point a bit. There just isn't all that much enthusiasm, I suppose is the word, in the modding community for this game simply because there are a ton more games out there similar in play style and much more mod friendly.

Valve games are the kings of mods. Literally thousands of options to choose from. Admittedly, a lot of those are going to be pretty bad. But I used to have about 20 different mods on my steam list. Many of which I played regularly.

I couldn't care less about the mods personally, it's the high latency of p2p multiplayer that's got me putting my wallet back in my pocket. I buy cod for the multiplayer, without that, there's no reason to buy. The short sp campaign won't be worth 30 quid.

[QUOTE="MadCat46"]Like I said, dedicated are no doubt better, but this really shouldn't be a deal breaker unless you were already swaying on the edge, let alone petitions and boycotts.-clippa-

It's also not fair to critize a system you've yet to use and see. There could be options that allow you to specify the type of hosting, min/max number of players, max latency, and a few other little things that make it a little more user friendly. As I said dedicated is hands down better no doubt, but this certainly isn't going to detract from the game play especially since we've yet to really see it in action.

It's also not fair to critize a system you've yet to use and seeMadCat46

Yes, you're quite right. I've been swept away by the drama of it all I think :D It's not looking good, put it that way, though I'm always open minded and I'm more than willing to eat my words :D

Mods arn't a huge deal since i haven't seen many on CoD4 (if they removed it from Counter-Strike it would absolutley kill the game.. and the same with most valve games), but dedicated servers are a big hit. Basically say goodbye to large multiplayer servers because i doubt many people can host 40 person servers by themselves.....

Maybe IW changed it because they decided to make smaller mp maps or less maps because they know almost no one will buy the PC version...... I can see this game staying alive maybe 2 months longer than FarCry 2 just because CoD is more popular. Oh well... i guess IW didn't pay attention when Ubisoft tried this with FC2 (i mean the matchmaking)...

Oh and how does it make it more accessable to all users? If you can use an online system on a PC then you shouldn't be playing.... dedicated servers and lobby lists of servers have been with PC gaming for how long? Maybe they have been doing it because it works so well......

I enjoy mods. If there are no mods for this game, I will not buy it for $50.

i'm getting tired of this i guess its time i left the pc gaming world most of you users are starting to drive me more crazy

tony2077ca

[QUOTE="tony2077ca"]

i'm getting tired of this i guess its time i left the pc gaming world most of you users are starting to drive me more crazy

TerroRizing

[QUOTE="MadCat46"]

[QUOTE="RearNakedChoke"]

When I think of mods, I don't think of servers with tweaked weapon and vehicle settings. I think of total conversion mods that are essentially entirely different games. Counter-Strike, Day Of Defeat, Team Fortress, Left 4 Dead, etc. All mods that turned into fully fledged games years down the road. That is, with the exception of Left 4 Dead which received Valve backing during it's development and went retail.

RearNakedChoke

The thing is there is really only a couple of huge mods like that for CoD4 which considering it's huge populatrity just kind of furthers my point a bit. There just isn't all that much enthusiasm, I suppose is the word, in the modding community for this game simply because there are a ton more games out there similar in play style and much more mod friendly.

Valve games are the kings of mods. Literally thousands of options to choose from. Admittedly, a lot of those are going to be pretty bad. But I used to have about 20 different mods on my steam list. Many of which I played regularly.

I couldn't care less about the mods personally, it's the high latency of p2p multiplayer that's got me putting my wallet back in my pocket. I buy cod for the multiplayer, without that, there's no reason to buy. The short sp campaign won't be worth 30 quid.

-clippa-

[QUOTE="tony2077ca"]

i'm getting tired of this i guess its time i left the pc gaming world most of you users are starting to drive me more crazy

TerroRizing

[QUOTE="tony2077ca"]

i'm getting tired of this i guess its time i left the pc gaming world most of you users are starting to drive me more crazy

i'm getting tired of this i guess its time i left the pc gaming world most of you users are starting to drive me more crazy

tony2077ca

Well developers making console focused games years now....There is a reason for this, propably because they make more money with the consoles that the pc. Consolazation is rising, more one more games will loose mod and dedicated capabilities in the future, this is only the beginning.dakan45

Matchmaking with Dedicated Server support would prove how capable the IW.net really is.

Matchmaking with Dedicated Server support would prove how capable the IW.net really is.

stupiddk

gameinformer is not objective they call PC Gamers Fanboys and Nerds in this article. IW is going to fail so be it. Lets just stick to a other Shooter with a military theme srly. CoD is nothing special like the classic Doom or Hexen: I can replace it with any game i want. Shooters are shooters.

[QUOTE="tony2077ca"]

i'm getting tired of this i guess its time i left the pc gaming world most of you users are starting to drive me more crazy

Cdscottie

i don't like this.... it's not like i don't know what's on their mind, but i had expected IW to at least have the decency to shut the F up.

i'm getting tired of this i guess its time i left the pc gaming world most of you users are starting to drive me more crazy

tony2077ca

[QUOTE="tony2077ca"]

i'm getting tired of this i guess its time i left the pc gaming world most of you users are starting to drive me more crazy

biggest_loser

[QUOTE="Cdscottie"][QUOTE="tony2077ca"]

i'm getting tired of this i guess its time i left the pc gaming world most of you users are starting to drive me more crazy

tony2077ca

[QUOTE="Barbariser"]If there's anything I hate about today's PC gaming scene, its devs who publicly add (or in this case, remove) features from their game, advertise it, and then attack the audience for not liking what they've done.MadCat46

When people complain of mods and dedicated servers, they are actually referring to the numerous competitive gaming leagues that uses their own mods and maps. Mods that tweaked gameplay such as removing a number of the more unbalancing perks for example, such as martyrdom and so on. That was what and is still sustaining the COD 4 PC gaming scene alive and vibrant. Without those, that very popular and competitive scene simply cannot happen. You are not a competitive COD 4 player so you probably simply missed the fact and a simple browsing of server list will not tell you this. So you are mistaken when you say that mods are never a big part of COD 4/WaW because you took it to be be mods like Counterstrike, DoD or L4D, those were actually not the main issue (while obviously still part of the important ones tho).mirgamer

So they're ditching hardcore gamers and competitive gaming in favour of giving the casuals a chance?

That seems to be an all too common theme this gen - I'm still not going to bother buying Activision games in the future. Maybe I will when they 'pull an EA' and start caring for actual gamers again, but until then...

[QUOTE="MadCat46"][QUOTE="Barbariser"]If there's anything I hate about today's PC gaming scene, its devs who publicly add (or in this case, remove) features from their game, advertise it, and then attack the audience for not liking what they've done.mirgamer

These people are simply out of touch with the PC community. It'll be their own fault when this winds up a ghost town on the PC, but I'm sure it'll just get blamed on piracy.