Lamesauce...BF3 pre-order bumped to $59.

I understand that for many of you, its a principal thing. However, for me, if the game (or any product) provides enough enjoyement and time to justify a set price, then I have no rpboelm paying it. If BF3 is a very good game and steals my life like all the other BF games did, then for me personally, it is worth $60.

Sorry to see the rest of you so up in arms over it. But they should be able to charge that price IF the game turns out great.

I understand that for many of you, its a principal thing. However, for me, if the game (or any product) provides enough enjoyement and time to justify a set price, then I have no rpboelm paying it. If BF3 is a very good game and steals my life like all the other BF games did, then for me personally, it is worth $60.

Sorry to see the rest of you so up in arms over it. But they should be able to charge that price IF the game turns out great.

TruedUp

[QUOTE="TruedUp"]

I understand that for many of you, its a principal thing. However, for me, if the game (or any product) provides enough enjoyement and time to justify a set price, then I have no rpboelm paying it. If BF3 is a very good game and steals my life like all the other BF games did, then for me personally, it is worth $60.

Sorry to see the rest of you so up in arms over it. But they should be able to charge that price IF the game turns out great.

Born_Lucky

But you are right, in the sense that they will charge what we let them charge. But if BF3 is the second coming of jesus, would you REALLY miss out on it for tehn bucks? ;)

And prices will continue to rise as long as people are stupid enough to pay this. I will not pay 60 bucks for any game. And we will continue to get games released with only half the content and the other half being DLC we get charged for as long as people continue to pay. I am glad I am not part of the stupid crowd :) We con trol the market, not the developer, not the publisher. Have fun pissing your money down the drain :)

[QUOTE="Remmib"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Really dude, it's $10....warmaster670

Do you know nothing about principle?

You're just encouraging publishers to charge $60 for every PC game when there is no reason for the game to be that price (unlike on consoles).

Get used to it, game development costs money.

"If development costs are the reason for this price increase why haven't console games gone up in price? Also, if "its only ten bucks", why not $70. Its only a ten dollar increase over standard console prices..."

They...did? really did you miss that 5 years ago? pc is just slow to catch up cause pc gamers are cheap.

To everyone defending the price hike, didn't valve release steam numbers that showed high prices like that actually lower profits overall?

[QUOTE="Remmib"]

I guess EA (Electronic Anuses) made Amazon bump their pre-order price from $49 to $59.

I don't pay console prices for PC games so until they drop the price back to $49 they will be missing out on two pre-orders from me.

http://www.amazon.com/Battlefield-3-Pc/dp/B002I0HJZO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1298003659&sr=8-3

FelipeInside

$10 is +20% of the original price.

That's quite a large increase, DUDE.

I think you need to accept the fact that PC games are starting to become 60$. If you want to miss out on games like StarCraft 2, Dead Space 2, Dragon Age 2, Assassins creed 2 etc. be my guest. I doubt the majority will agree with you thoe.

JangoWuzHere

Not interested at all now. If rising dev costs is why the price of games for PC went up I want to know why the console counterparts don't do the same.

To everyone defending the price hike, didn't valve release steam numbers that showed high prices like that actually lower profits overall?

topgunmv

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

To everyone defending the price hike, didn't valve release steam numbers that showed high prices like that actually lower profits overall?

Cranler

What I'm saying is that it's a short term gain for a bigger long term loss.

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="topgunmv"]

To everyone defending the price hike, didn't valve release steam numbers that showed high prices like that actually lower profits overall?

What I'm saying is that it's a short term gain for a bigger long term loss.

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"] Werent their stats for all games, not just new games? A lot of people just cant wait to play a certain game and will overpay to play it. Others who dont want to pay will simply wait. Maybe a few will never buy it, but they still probably make more this way. These companies have marketing experts and have access to a lot more data than we do.Cranler

What I'm saying is that it's a short term gain for a bigger long term loss.

Well, valve certainly has more data to look at than any single publisher.

Looks like I won't be playing BF3 on day one.

I refuse to pay more than $50 for a game.

tequilasunriser

Your lose, this is possibly going to be the only game that I will purchase for the PC this year.

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="topgunmv"]

What I'm saying is that it's a short term gain for a bigger long term loss.

topgunmv

Well, valve certainly has more data to look at than any single publisher.

I agree with you completely. Yes, it's just $10, but if they bumped it up just $10 next year, would you fold over and take it then? What about the year after? I'm not against them increasing prices if they have to in order to make a profit, but pc games should not be the same price as console games as a principle. If they lose $10 off of every sale on the console due to licenses, the systems without licensing should match that price.guynamedbilly

I have been gaming for over 20 years, and until recently, games have always been 49.99. A bump had to come sooner or later, and quite honestly I am suprised it took this long.

Am I happy? Of course not. But we just gotta swallow it unfortunately.

[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"]

Looks like I won't be playing BF3 on day one.

I refuse to pay more than $50 for a game.

-CheeseEater-

I am suprised Australians even bother. Thats just said, how much it costs.

Pretty much guarantees the further rise and acceptance of piracy. Making games more expensive is a surefire way of acquiring more customers.

When Activision had the audacity to start charging $60 for Modern Warfare 2, and all the idiots lined up and bought the game, they sent a clear message that they don't care how much it costs as long as they get it NOW. Activision would be stupid to NOT charge $60 for every game they release. It has nothing to do with rising developer costs, but has everything to do with the impatient types who are willing to shell out $60 for a game on day one. Why do you think Iphones and Ipads were $600 a pop when they were first released? Because Apple knew the morons would line up out the door to pick one up, despite the fact those prices were dropped in half mere months after initial release.

It's all money grabbing, open your eyes people.

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"] We dont know that and I'm sure these companies dont make these kinds of decisions lightly.Cranler

Well, valve certainly has more data to look at than any single publisher.

I would have to look at the actual article/report or whatever to talk about the details beyond cheaper=a lot more sales.

I have been gaming for over 20 years, and until recently, games have always been 49.99. >mrbojangles25

Yup, I refuse to be paying $60 for these games. Apparantly unlike many people here, I have the capability to simply wait just a few months (potentially just a few weeks) to play a video game for a cheaper price than many others. I understand the game will probably be completely awesome, and Im willing to wait a little longer to experience that for a cheaper price than many of you, as well as discouraging future price hikes. Go ahead, buy it on day one for a 20% increase from the norm. Hell, as Steam shows for $10 I could buy roughly 3 games with many of their sales. (Hitman a little over 2 bucks right now? *cough*)

If the current price hike was simply because of "development costs" I guarantee those same "development costs" would drastically drop back to $50 if you refused to pay for it at $60. Companies simply know that they can get away with it, and as the world has proven, they can.

think about EA. why not selling for $59? it's gonna sell like hot cakes anyway.

vote with your wallets; if you don't think it's worth it, don't buy it. i personally would pay even more from that title...

I will buy it once it is on Steam. Crysis 2 recently showed up on Steam for $59.99 and I bought it. The cost of making games is going up and sice it is through Steam, the devs get a huge portion of the money, so I don't care too much.

I love it when something goes up by $10 and then people act all like "UR LOSING MAH PRE-ORDER NAO".:P

I love it when something goes up by $10 and then people act all like "UR LOSING MAH PRE-ORDER NAO".:P

EddieTheHead84

wich they didn't plan to do anyway.

The cost of making games is going up arto1223

You do realise that is a load of rubbish don't you ? EA themselves stated that development budgets have peaked and they expect them to go DOWN :-

But I think budgets for games have actually peaked and are starting to move in the reverse direction again.David DeMartini

http://ps3.mmgn.com/News/EA-Development-budgets-have-pe

Yet the same company that is proclaiming this is raising prices on the PC platform ONLY, they are not raising prices on the console platform though are they ? This is before you even get into the fact that there is no royalty fee on the PC. There is no excuse for making PC game prices on par with console game prices except for the "hey we can get away with it" excuse.

Now for those of you living in other countries going "boo hoo cry me a river I have to pay 7 million pixie sticks for my games". Take a look at the cost of console games in your country at the moment PC games should be cheaper than the console version, but that will change if US PC gamers accept this price increase.

There is a tangible reason why PC games are cheaper than the console version. The console version incurs greater costs to a publisher in the form of higher disc media (MS charges around $2.50 for each disc), extra certification costs and the console royalty fee.

Going by these comments, I can't tell if the publishers are being greedy or dev costs are rising, hell, there are still games that are 50 bucks on PC coming like The Witcher 2, Duke Nukerm Forever, F3AR, Deus Ex: Human Revolution, etc.

Going by these comments, I can't tell if the publishers are being greedy or dev costs are rising, hell, there are still games that are 50 bucks on PC coming like The Witcher 2, Duke Nukerm Forever, F3AR, Deus Ex: Human Revolution, etc.

mitu123

Yup, I refuse to be paying $60 for these games. Apparantly unlike many people here, I have the capability to simply wait just a few months (potentially just a few weeks) to play a video game for a cheaper price than many others. I understand the game will probably be completely awesome, and Im willing to wait a little longer to experience that for a cheaper price than many of you, as well as discouraging future price hikes. Go ahead, buy it on day one for a 20% increase from the norm. Hell, as Steam shows for $10 I could buy roughly 3 games with many of their sales. (Hitman a little over 2 bucks right now? *cough*)

If the current price hike was simply because of "development costs" I guarantee those same "development costs" would drastically drop back to $50 if you refused to pay for it at $60. Companies simply know that they can get away with it, and as the world has proven, they can.

trijity

I think I'm good with paying 60$ for a game I want. If you want to wait 2-3 months for a small price drop then be my guest.

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]I have been gaming for over 20 years, and until recently, games have always been 49.99. >dos4gw82

thank you, that is exactly my point. Games have been about 50+ dollars for over two decades now, its suprising we havent seen an increase until now. And why not? That is the way economies work; costs of goods go up over time, sad but true.

just take solace in the fact that A.) digital distribution will keep costs down, and B.) most PC games get marked down quickly

I will buy it once it is on Steam. Crysis 2 recently showed up on Steam for $59.99 and I bought it. The cost of making games is going up and sice it is through Steam, the devs get a huge portion of the money, so I don't care too much.

arto1223

[QUOTE="arto1223"]

I will buy it once it is on Steam. Crysis 2 recently showed up on Steam for $59.99 and I bought it. The cost of making games is going up and sice it is through Steam, the devs get a huge portion of the money, so I don't care too much.

guynamedbilly

[QUOTE="arto1223"]

The cost of making games is going up charmingcharlie

You do realise that is a load of rubbish don't you ? EA themselves stated that development budgets have peaked and they expect them to go DOWN :-

But I think budgets for games have actually peaked and are starting to move in the reverse direction again.David DeMartini

http://ps3.mmgn.com/News/EA-Development-budgets-have-pe

Yet the same company that is proclaiming this is raising prices on the PC platform ONLY, they are not raising prices on the console platform though are they ? This is before you even get into the fact that there is no royalty fee on the PC. There is no excuse for making PC game prices on par with console game prices except for the "hey we can get away with it" excuse.

Now for those of you living in other countries going "boo hoo cry me a river I have to pay 7 million pixie sticks for my games". Take a look at the cost of console games in your country at the moment PC games should be cheaper than the console version, but that will change if US PC gamers accept this price increase.

There is a tangible reason why PC games are cheaper than the console version. The console version incurs greater costs to a publisher in the form of higher disc media (MS charges around $2.50 for each disc), extra certification costs and the console royalty fee.

Apparently no one read this post.

Dude your just gonna have to deal with it everything including PC games and Food prices are going up with whats happening these days.Hekynn

[QUOTE="charmingcharlie"]

[QUOTE="arto1223"]

The cost of making games is going up Remmib

You do realise that is a load of rubbish don't you ? EA themselves stated that development budgets have peaked and they expect them to go DOWN :-

But I think budgets for games have actually peaked and are starting to move in the reverse direction again.David DeMartini

http://ps3.mmgn.com/News/EA-Development-budgets-have-pe

Yet the same company that is proclaiming this is raising prices on the PC platform ONLY, they are not raising prices on the console platform though are they ? This is before you even get into the fact that there is no royalty fee on the PC. There is no excuse for making PC game prices on par with console game prices except for the "hey we can get away with it" excuse.

Now for those of you living in other countries going "boo hoo cry me a river I have to pay 7 million pixie sticks for my games". Take a look at the cost of console games in your country at the moment PC games should be cheaper than the console version, but that will change if US PC gamers accept this price increase.

There is a tangible reason why PC games are cheaper than the console version. The console version incurs greater costs to a publisher in the form of higher disc media (MS charges around $2.50 for each disc), extra certification costs and the console royalty fee.

Apparently no one read this post.

Most people would rather believe that development costs are simply rising and that price increases are necessary instead of admitting that they are being screwed.

[QUOTE="trijity"]

Yup, I refuse to be paying $60 for these games. Apparantly unlike many people here, I have the capability to simply wait just a few months (potentially just a few weeks) to play a video game for a cheaper price than many others. I understand the game will probably be completely awesome, and Im willing to wait a little longer to experience that for a cheaper price than many of you, as well as discouraging future price hikes. Go ahead, buy it on day one for a 20% increase from the norm. Hell, as Steam shows for $10 I could buy roughly 3 games with many of their sales. (Hitman a little over 2 bucks right now? *cough*)

If the current price hike was simply because of "development costs" I guarantee those same "development costs" would drastically drop back to $50 if you refused to pay for it at $60. Companies simply know that they can get away with it, and as the world has proven, they can.

JangoWuzHere

I think I'm good with paying 60$ for a game I want. If you want to wait 2-3 months for a small price drop then be my guest.

"Small" price drop can be arguable, got BC2 for 20 bucks like 1 month after release. So yes, I'm willing to wait for a potential drop like that, even if it does turn out to be minor, congratz on paying $60 for it though! =D

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

[QUOTE="trijity"]

Yup, I refuse to be paying $60 for these games. Apparantly unlike many people here, I have the capability to simply wait just a few months (potentially just a few weeks) to play a video game for a cheaper price than many others. I understand the game will probably be completely awesome, and Im willing to wait a little longer to experience that for a cheaper price than many of you, as well as discouraging future price hikes. Go ahead, buy it on day one for a 20% increase from the norm. Hell, as Steam shows for $10 I could buy roughly 3 games with many of their sales. (Hitman a little over 2 bucks right now? *cough*)

If the current price hike was simply because of "development costs" I guarantee those same "development costs" would drastically drop back to $50 if you refused to pay for it at $60. Companies simply know that they can get away with it, and as the world has proven, they can.

trijity

I think I'm good with paying 60$ for a game I want. If you want to wait 2-3 months for a small price drop then be my guest.

"Small" price drop can be arguable, got BC2 for 20 bucks like 1 month after release. So yes, I'm willing to wait for a potential drop like that, even if it does turn out to be minor, congratz on paying $60 for it though! =D

Rare Gaming deals /=/ Price Drops

I pre-ordered Crysis 2, Dead Space 2, and Medal of Honor for 30$ a long time ago. I told everybody about that deal, and not everybody jumped on board.

[QUOTE="trijity"]

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

I think I'm good with paying 60$ for a game I want. If you want to wait 2-3 months for a small price drop then be my guest.

JangoWuzHere

"Small" price drop can be arguable, got BC2 for 20 bucks like 1 month after release. So yes, I'm willing to wait for a potential drop like that, even if it does turn out to be minor, congratz on paying $60 for it though! =D

Rare Gaming deals /=/ Price Drops

I pre-ordered Crysis 2, Dead Space 2, and Medal of Honor for 30$ a long time ago. I told everybody about that deal, and not everybody jumped on board.

So why jump the gun and pay $60 now? You yourself are speaking of great deals and slobbering over BF3 with a $60 price tag? I got some of those games for great deals too, hell, D2D may do another 20% off deal. Why be too anxious and waste earned cash?

A sale is indeed a price drop, although a temporary one. My wallet doesn't know the difference, and I know that I didn't pay the $60 they demanded for it without the sale.

With the regular edition I can see why anyone would be upset, but the limited edition comes with an expansion of 4 maps from BF2 with vehicles and weapons, and I bet it'll cost 10-15 bucks a month later, to me, that's not a bad deal, it's like your paying 50 bucks with 10 extra bucks for an expansion to justify the 60 bucks.

With the regular edition I can see why anyone would be upset, but the limited edition comes with an expansion of 4 maps from BF2 with vehicles and weapons, and I bet it'll cost 10-15 bucks a month later, to me, that's not a bad deal, it's like your paying 50 bucks with 10 extra bucks for an expansion to justify the 60 bucks.

mitu123

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

With the regular edition I can see why anyone would be upset, but the limited edition comes with an expansion of 4 maps from BF2 with vehicles and weapons, and I bet it'll cost 10-15 bucks a month later, to me, that's not a bad deal, it's like your paying 50 bucks with 10 extra bucks for an expansion to justify the 60 bucks.

Peerbreed

[QUOTE="bblundell"]Your supposed principles that you follow don't mean a thing if there's no movemen with you. It was stated whenever the games went from 49.99 to 59.99 that PC gamers wouldn't pay that.......lies. Looks at MW2. Game was garbage, and a large majority people still payed that. BF3, if done well could very well be worth the extra 10 bucks. From the way that DICE and EA games have been lately....if you pick it up in the bargain bin, you will likely not have the edition with all the extra map and weapon unlocks. You will have to pay extra for them at a later date. I would keep my preorder, so I don't have to pay for the unlocks at a later date.Remmib

You realize a large majority of the people on this planet are morons, right?

This...just think about highschool guys...how many people can you say were actually smart...

I am sure I will be able to find other places to pre-order the game for less than $60.the_ChEeSe_mAn2

I thought that PC games had been $10 cheaper than consoles because they didnt have to pay fees to Sony or MS.

So where does the extra expense come from to justify charging the same price as consoles (other than another attempt from producers to milk more money from customers while giving nothing extra to show for it)?