Leaked Battlefield 3 info from Game Informer!!! Updated with more info.

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-Aiming for CY Q4 2011 release
-Concept for BF3 has been in the works for years, waiting on proper tech to seamlessly come together
-Frosbite 2.0 is the culmination of this tech, entirely re-written
-Lighting sounds neat, one "probe" contains more lighting information than an entire BFBC2 level.
-Level destruction is going to be "believable" but basically everything is destructible.
-Character animations powered by ANT, what EA Sports uses.
-AI characters and multiplayer characters have different animation sets
-No more "gliding" animations that look off, animation realism is a focus
-Captured their own war audios (bullets, tanks, helicopters, etc) at different distances to ensure realism
-Better audio cues for certain actions, more easily able to listen for threats
-Plan on better, more immediate post release content
-More unlocks than BFBC2
-Dice trying to find a good balance between customization of your character and not having "pink rabbit hat(s)"
-4 c1asses
-Will talk about squads "later"
-Looking into a theater mode but can't talk about it
-Will have co-op
-There will be a kill-cam but it can be turned off
-BF3's team is almost twice as big as the team for BFBC2
-They want the pacing of the single player mode to be balanced, with highs and lows. Makes the comparison to a song vs a guitar solo.
-Part of the single player mode takes place in Sulaymaniyah - Iraqi Kurdistan.
-The F word will be used often, so M rated for sure
-There will be an earthquake in a level. The destruction sounds very impressive. 7 story building collapses, looks very well done
-Significant narrative that goes with the SP mode
-More than one setting, you're not in the middle east for the whole game
-PC version is lead version
-Why 64 players for PC only? No complains from the console crowd.
-No mod tools at release. Maybe none down the line either. Frosbite 2.0 is complex and mods tools would have to be dumbed down, so does Dice really want to put their time to that or would it be better spent elsewhere?
-Original story, not based on Bad Company at all.

Some good and bad in there.

So I was reading the scans about modding and it's not entirely ruled out though chances are low.

-Why 64 players for PC only? No complains from the console crowd.

mitu123

Lol

sounds to me like they want to kill the upstart OPFP3RR before it even starts

nevermind code of honor 4 but im still getting both anyway.. code of honor is like 20 bucks to start and has been good value since conspiracy island and idk i just liked opfp2DR

Sounds good to me. I'm impressed with a 7 story building collapse. Hopefully we can see some epic physics like that in multiplayer battles

Sounds good to me. I'm impressed with a 7 story building collapse. Hopefully we can see some epic physics like that in multiplayer battles

wis3boi

music to my ears.. you dont know how many times i wanted to level the tall buildings in bf2:MC on a bridge too far.. just made me want to errrr

killcam, only 4 classes?Nick3306

Killcam can be turned off, 2142 had 4 classes.

some bad pics here

[QUOTE="Remmib"]Potentially no mod tools? You better rethink that DICE if you have any business sense whatsoever. Mod tools have extended the lives of all of your previous BF games for 6+ years at the minimum.Dante2710

Their explanation was weak. They probably just want to hold out on mod tools so they can sell maps and other crap.

[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="Remmib"]Potentially no mod tools? You better rethink that DICE if you have any business sense whatsoever. Mod tools have extended the lives of all of your previous BF games for 6+ years at the minimum.Remmib

Their explanation was weak. They probably just want to hold out on mod tools so they can sell maps and other crap.

well some engines jsut arent mod material or their overcomplicated..

look at serious engine 2.0 or the engine for guildwars.. its just not material..

[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="Remmib"]Potentially no mod tools? You better rethink that DICE if you have any business sense whatsoever. Mod tools have extended the lives of all of your previous BF games for 6+ years at the minimum.Remmib

Their explanation was weak. They probably just want to hold out on mod tools so they can sell maps and other crap.

sounds to me like they want to kill the upstart OPFP3RR before it even startsionusX

[QUOTE="Nick3306"]killcam, only 4 classes?Baranga

Killcam can be turned off, 2142 had 4 classes.

some bad pics here

Way better than BC2.

[QUOTE="Nick3306"]killcam, only 4 classes?Baranga

Killcam can be turned off, 2142 had 4 classes.

some bad pics here

Hopefully its optimizedbetter than Bad Company 2 which requires top of the line cards sli'd or crossfired for 60+ plus fps.

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

[QUOTE="Nick3306"]killcam, only 4 classes?Nick3306

Killcam can be turned off, 2142 had 4 classes.

some bad pics here

Don't know any info on Battlefield 3 but it's sounds awesome. I can't wait till the day it comes out. I might be taking on all the online players in Battlefield 2.. :D

Just because of one game lol :P

Ya but only 4 classes basicly means the medics will have LMG's again and thats just stupid.Nick3306

[QUOTE="Nick3306"][QUOTE="Baranga"]

Killcam can be turned off, 2142 had 4 classes.

some bad pics here

mitu123

I'm not sure if I missed it, and if yes, then I sure hope that they have included AI bots, cause that's what Battlefield series has all been about!

Hopefully its optimizedbetter than Bad Company 2 which requires top of the line cards sli'd or crossfired for 60+ plus fps.

Cranler

I hope so becuase pretty much if you didn't have a i5/i7 and a 350-500 gpu setup, sli 460's, 5850 etc, you couldn't get 60 fps. Alot of it was more of a cpu issue my 460s only run at like 50 percent with bc2, 4 x aa all maxed.

TOO much SP focus. I'm already regretting even getting my hopes up that it would rival BF2 or 1942 in MP longevity ... ColdfireTrilogy

Dice is big enough to handle it. Don't be so negative, it's bad for your health.

sounds good to me!

-The F word will be used often, so M rated for sure - bang! day 1 purchase! I just have one question: Will the knife work?! biggest_loser

yes, but the range has been improved from 5 feet to 15! Ooooh joy!

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Nick3306"] Ya but only 4 basicly means the medics will have LMG's again and thats just stupid.Nick3306

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

killcam, only 4 classes?Nick3306

Killcam can be turned off, 2142 had 4 classes.

some bad pics here

Way better than BC2.

Ok, there will be a medic, but he may be a hybrid of either Assault or Support.

Ok, there will be a medic, but he may be a hybrid of either Assault or Support.

mitu123

Sounds awesome!

I just hope my GTX 260 and 2.8GHz AMD 4-core isn't going to cry...:P

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Ok, there will be a medic, but he may be a hybrid of either Assault or Support.

SF_KiLLaMaN

64 players for PC? Fyeah!

I don't think kill cam is necessary but I suspect most PC servers will have it switched off anyway. Big shame about lack of mod tools. I would personally scrap the single player, bot match is enough. Hope unlock system is similar to 2142nutcrackr

I'm glad that not all PC gamers think like you.

I actually wnat a single player campaign, I know ill stay for multiplayer, but I want the game to be a complete package. Also what is wrong with killcam?

I don't like the fact that they are going to put a lot of cursing in this game. All of the cursing in BC2(single player) felt very out of place.

[QUOTE="nutcrackr"]I don't think kill cam is necessary but I suspect most PC servers will have it switched off anyway. Big shame about lack of mod tools. I would personally scrap the single player, bot match is enough. Hope unlock system is similar to 2142JangoWuzHere

I'm glad that not all PC gamers think like you.

I actually wnat a single player campaign, I know ill stay for multiplayer, but I want the game to be a complete package. Also what is wrong with killcam?

[QUOTE="nutcrackr"]I don't think kill cam is necessary but I suspect most PC servers will have it switched off anyway. Big shame about lack of mod tools. I would personally scrap the single player, bot match is enough. Hope unlock system is similar to 2142JangoWuzHere

I'm glad that not all PC gamers think like you.

I actually wnat a single player campaign, I know ill stay for multiplayer, but I want the game to be a complete package. Also what is wrong with killcam?

Yeah, but BF games have NEVER been about the singleplayer campaign. It's a waste of time and resources. You're the only person who wants a singleplayer campaign.

Killcam is for fairies.

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

[QUOTE="nutcrackr"]I don't think kill cam is necessary but I suspect most PC servers will have it switched off anyway. Big shame about lack of mod tools. I would personally scrap the single player, bot match is enough. Hope unlock system is similar to 2142gunmaster55555

I'm glad that not all PC gamers think like you.

I actually wnat a single player campaign, I know ill stay for multiplayer, but I want the game to be a complete package. Also what is wrong with killcam?

I like to know were I got shot from. Its helps me learn from my mistakes.

I also don't find cursing to be realistic. I'm sure soliders would curse from time to time during a firefight, but not like in Bad Company 2.

[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="Remmib"]Potentially no mod tools? You better rethink that DICE if you have any business sense whatsoever. Mod tools have extended the lives of all of your previous BF games for 6+ years at the minimum.Remmib

Their explanation was weak. They probably just want to hold out on mod tools so they can sell maps and other crap.

I don't think their explanation was weak at all.

This whole destruction thing seems to be extremely code-intensive. I really think mod tools would be far to difficult to make and they are not going to bother trying to waste time.

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

[QUOTE="nutcrackr"]I don't think kill cam is necessary but I suspect most PC servers will have it switched off anyway. Big shame about lack of mod tools. I would personally scrap the single player, bot match is enough. Hope unlock system is similar to 2142Remmib

I'm glad that not all PC gamers think like you.

I actually wnat a single player campaign, I know ill stay for multiplayer, but I want the game to be a complete package. Also what is wrong with killcam?

Yeah, but BF games have NEVER been about the singleplayer campaign. It's a waste of time and resources. You're the only person who wants a singleplayer campaign.

Killcam is for fairies.

I don't think its a waste of time, how much time and effort can you really put into a multiplayer component? I want memorable package, not a sport activity.

Killcams are awesome by the way.

I like to know were I got shot from. Its helps me learn from my mistakes.

I also don't find cursing to be realistic. I'm sure soliders would curse from time to time during a firefight, but not like in Bad Company 2.

JangoWuzHere

Cursing is realistic. Killcam is for noobs...leave that kind of handholding stuff for games like CoD.

I don't think its a waste of time, how much time and effort can you really put into a multiplayer component? I want memorable package, not a sport activity.

Killcams are awesome by the way.

JangoWuzHere

A lot of effort can be put into multiplayer, their amount of effort will determine how good the game is.

If you want singleplayer go play something else like Operation Flashpoint or Ghost Recon.

[QUOTE="Remmib"]

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

I'm glad that not all PC gamers think like you.

I actually wnat a single player campaign, I know ill stay for multiplayer, but I want the game to be a complete package. Also what is wrong with killcam?

JangoWuzHere

Yeah, but BF games have NEVER been about the singleplayer campaign. It's a waste of time and resources. You're the only person who wants a singleplayer campaign.

Killcam is for fairies.

I don't think its a waste of time, how much time and effort can you really put into a multiplayer component? I want memorable package, not a sport activity.

Killcams are awesome by the way.

I love killcams. Even BF1942 and BF2 had sort of killcam which would focus the camera on where the player was killed from. Then CoD came along and showed the killcam and everybody has been using it since. (CoD 1 on the PC btw)

[QUOTE="Remmib"]

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

I'm glad that not all PC gamers think like you.

I actually wnat a single player campaign, I know ill stay for multiplayer, but I want the game to be a complete package. Also what is wrong with killcam?

JangoWuzHere

Yeah, but BF games have NEVER been about the singleplayer campaign. It's a waste of time and resources. You're the only person who wants a singleplayer campaign.

Killcam is for fairies.

I don't think its a waste of time, how much time and effort can you really put into a multiplayer component? I want memorable package, not a sport activity.

Killcams are awesome by the way.

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

I like to know were I got shot from. Its helps me learn from my mistakes.

I also don't find cursing to be realistic. I'm sure soliders would curse from time to time during a firefight, but not like in Bad Company 2.

Remmib

Cursing is realistic. Killcam is for noobs...leave that kind of handholding stuff for games like CoD.

I don't think its a waste of time, how much time and effort can you really put into a multiplayer component? I want memorable package, not a sport activity.

Killcams are awesome by the way.

JangoWuzHere

A lot of effort can be put into multiplayer, their amount of effort will determine how good the game is.

If you want singleplayer go play something else like Operation Flashpoint or Ghost Recon.

I wouldn't mind a really good singleplayer. A pure MP-focused title today would not feel like a complete package.

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

I like to know were I got shot from. Its helps me learn from my mistakes.

I also don't find cursing to be realistic. I'm sure soliders would curse from time to time during a firefight, but not like in Bad Company 2.

Remmib

Cursing is realistic. Killcam is for noobs...leave that kind of handholding stuff for games like CoD.

I don't think its a waste of time, how much time and effort can you really put into a multiplayer component? I want memorable package, not a sport activity.

Killcams are awesome by the way.

JangoWuzHere

A lot of effort can be put into multiplayer, their amount of effort will determine how good the game is.

If you want singleplayer go play something else like Operation Flashpoint or Ghost Recon.

No, I want to play battlefield. If the call of duty games can create a robust multiplayer component and an epic single player campaign, then I'm sure DICE can as well. They can at least try, and I'm glad that they are.

Also, nothing wrong with killcam, especially considering how well it was done in BC2.