Lol @ the Diablo 3 haters

I swear, some of the people complaining about Diablo 3 seem like they're literally just trying to find something to throw their angst at.

Let's take a look at some of these horrific complaints:

1: Must be Online all the time-

Who cares about this...honestly? Everyone has access to some sort of internet...even dial up would work for this. This is the silliest thing I've ever heard complained about honestly.

2: Real Money AH

Okay...so Diablo 3 was already going to have people paying money for gear...so all the AH does is allow for people to actually turn their time spent in a video game into money. I could understand people complaining about this if the real money AH was the ONLY option...but it's not. I have a feeling that most people are going to use their weekly free AH listings on the real currency AH, then put everything else on the in game currency AH.....big deal.

This isn't an MMO...who cares if someone bought their gear? All this does is add options to players...if you don't like it, don't use it...but please stop crying over such a non-issue.

3: D3 is being "consolized"

This complaint stems from PC elitists, nothing more. There's absolutely nothing about the Diablo franchise that has to be "dumbed down" for consoles...nothing. In fact, Diablo on the PS1 was an awesome game...why can't D3 be the same? Just another thing for people to complain about.

So please people...stop making storms out of glasses of water. We all know you're going to be waiting in line for D3 when it's released and will spend an obnoxious amount of time playing it...in between trolling the D3 forums of course complaining about more non-issues.

Agree half the users posting are using gamespot already to blog or post about not being online..So now they have to use a password to sign in to diablo 3 to play..Its no big deal, i do that now with starcraft 2..Dont even use sc2 for multiplaying ive never played a match yet online..Just play and enjoy the single player game..The auction house you dont even need to use it..Its gotten out of hand think they are looking at some thing to complain about really..Ive been waiting for d3 myself for a long time myself i cant wait to get my first item drop in game and kick some butt..Looking forward to it..Been pre ordered for months now...Along with skyrim an all the other wonderful games do out this year..Duess x around the corner to kick the year off..Diablo 3, torchlight 2, dungeon siege 3, and a few other hack and slash are my fav genre..Hell i still enjoy titan quest..Bring ON DIABLO 3 BABY..

I agree and don't forget "/cry -we don't like the colors you're using -/cry".

Yeah I'm really looking forward to it but these people are just sad.....

I swear, some of the people complaining about Diablo 3 seem like they're literally just trying to find something to throw their angst at.

Let's take a look at some of these horrific complaints:

1: Must be Online all the time-

Who cares about this...honestly? Everyone has access to some sort of internet...even dial up would work for this. This is the silliest thing I've ever heard complained about honestly.

2: Real Money AH

Okay...so Diablo 3 was already going to have people paying money for gear...so all the AH does is allow for people to actually turn their time spent in a video game into money. I could understand people complaining about this if the real money AH was the ONLY option...but it's not. I have a feeling that most people are going to use their weekly free AH listings on the real currency AH, then put everything else on the in game currency AH.....big deal.

This isn't an MMO...who cares if someone bought their gear? All this does is add options to players...if you don't like it, don't use it...but please stop crying over such a non-issue.

3: D3 is being "consolized"

This complaint stems from PC elitists, nothing more. There's absolutely nothing about the Diablo franchise that has to be "dumbed down" for consoles...nothing. In fact, Diablo on the PS1 was an awesome game...why can't D3 be the same? Just another thing for people to complain about.

So please people...stop making storms out of glasses of water. We all know you're going to be waiting in line for D3 when it's released and will spend an obnoxious amount of time playing it...in between trolling the D3 forums of course complaining about more non-issues.

testament1

Unless of course you are in a situation where the internet isn't available to you, in the case of a power cut or your internet line is down or travelling with a laptop. In d2, internet goes down----> play SP. In D3, you sit and wait/do something else but you can't play the game you paid for.

As for your other points, it's too early to see how the auction house will impact the game overall. D2 had one messed up economy thanks to the massive item duplication problem. Hell I used to sell my gear for real money in the end. No doubt Blizz has come a long way since then so I don't think item duplication will be a problem and therefore the AH may be just as fair as what you would find in WoW, just you know, you pay real money.

Consolisation? Meh there's no evidence of it from what I see so you are right there.

1: Must be Online all the time-

Who cares about this...honestly? Everyone has access to some sort of internet...even dial up would work for this. This is the silliest thing I've ever heard complained about honestly.

testament1

Wrong, where did you read that dial up would work for that? I'm interested because it's not true

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1: Must be Online all the time-

Who cares about this...honestly? Everyone has access to some sort of internet...even dial up would work for this. This is the silliest thing I've ever heard complained about honestly.

Jaysonguy

Wrong, where did you read that dial up would work for that? I'm interested because it's not true

Just did a bunch of google searches, and I see nothing that states dial-up users can't play because of DRM issues. Now I'm not saying it would be optimal for multiplayer purposes...but if someone just wants to play single player, then dial up should suffice.

Unless of course you can point me to something OFFICIAL that states otherwise.

I'm still yet to read a justifiable reason from the apologists about the always online. It's not part of the game design It's not preventing cheating further It's obtrusive It allows Blizzard to determine when you play the game It restricts the game you purchased, with full singleplayer capabilities completely It encourages piracy It cuts your game if you drop Apologists who are happy to complain about Ubisoft but fawn over Blizzardskrat_01

All of the issues you just listed equals NOT A BIG DEAL.

1: Must be Online all the time-

Who cares about this...honestly? Everyone has access to some sort of internet...even dial up would work for this. This is the silliest thing I've ever heard complained about honestly.testament1

except if you DC, you will be kicked out of the game, period, it isn't like Starcraft where you could play offline and still have acces to the game minus the achievements and the like, it will act like world of warcraft which is silly since I've already stated in several of my post how they can't be compared between each other

and I wonder if that will be good news with people who like to play hardcore mode...not only do they need skill to play it but they have to rely on comcast not being garbage, if they disconnect in the middle of the game, that's it, they lose their character

there are several reason why the Online always requirement it's the most ridiculous statement in games like these

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1: Must be Online all the time-

Who cares about this...honestly? Everyone has access to some sort of internet...even dial up would work for this. This is the silliest thing I've ever heard complained about honestly.Vlashkgbr

except if you DC, you will be kicked out of the game, period, it isn't like Starcraft where you could play offline and still have acces to the game minus the achievements and the like, it will act like world of warcraft which is silly since I've already stated in several of my post how they can't be compared between each other

and I wonder if that will be good news with people who like to play hardcore mode...not only do they need skill to play it but they have to rely on comcast not being garbage, if they disconnect in the middle of the game, that's it, they lose their character

there are several reason why the Online always requirement it's the most ridiculous statement in games like these

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[QUOTE="testament1"]

1: Must be Online all the time-

Who cares about this...honestly? Everyone has access to some sort of internet...even dial up would work for this. This is the silliest thing I've ever heard complained about honestly.Grodus5

except if you DC, you will be kicked out of the game, period, it isn't like Starcraft where you could play offline and still have acces to the game minus the achievements and the like, it will act like world of warcraft which is silly since I've already stated in several of my post how they can't be compared between each other

and I wonder if that will be good news with people who like to play hardcore mode...not only do they need skill to play it but they have to rely on comcast not being garbage, if they disconnect in the middle of the game, that's it, they lose their character

there are several reason why the Online always requirement it's the most ridiculous statement in games like these

No, if you DC, you die. If your character isn't in hardcore mode, you lose 10% item durability. If he is...well too bad.

I will admit, that the constant internet connection requirement may be a bit unwarranted...but in the end, it's not going to be a big deal for most Diablo 3 players.

And it's certainly not enough to start cutting and protest the big evil Activition-Blizzard by not buying their game.

Just because they are concerned about relevant issues doesn't make them a hater. I hate the idea of an auction house and having to always be connected to the internet, but I am still very much looking forward to D3.SF_KiLLaMaN

Yeah, but were you ever really going to be DISCONNECTED from the internet while playing D3? I mean I guess sometimes when internet isn't available...but in todays world where barns and churches even have wi-fi, I just don't see it being a big deal for the majority.

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]Just because they are concerned about relevant issues doesn't make them a hater. I hate the idea of an auction house and having to always be connected to the internet, but I am still very much looking forward to D3.testament1

Yeah, but were you ever really going to be DISCONNECTED from the internet while playing D3? I mean I guess sometimes when internet isn't available...but in todays world where barns and churches even have wi-fi, I just don't see it being a big deal for the majority.

I'm not sure which is worse, the greedy corporations chiseling away at consumer's rights or the hive-mind that stands up and cheers and rallies against their own self-interests?

/shrug

I wonder how many people brushing off the online policy were tearing up Ubisoft for doing the exact same thing. It seems a lot less vitriol here than it was when Ubi did there thing. MadCat46

Just because YOU don't care about an issue doesn't mean that others won't either. I still play Diablo 2 SP. The masses may play on battle.net, but playing SP has its advantages in D2. (See: Change players settings, no lag, no duping, can create/exit games as fast as you want) Single Player isn't for everyone, but there are probably a lot more players than most people realize.

I haven't read much about the Auction House, but I have to say I am a bit worried by it. We now see that this is how Blizzard plans to monetize the game, and it just worries me that it gives them too much incentive to make it an integral part of the game. I don't want to play with real money, so if it becomes essentially the only way to obtain items, yeah, that's a problem to me.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"] It encourages piracy gamer620

Uhh... your argument falls flat in more ways than the other guy's. First of all, you're going to waste 10+GBs anyways by installing the game. Second, if people are going to pirate the game, it'll be for the single player. Hell, even people that legitimately bought the game might download a crack to play the single player in cases where they don't have/don't want to use an Internet connection. Third of all, while most people do play the Diablo games in multiplayer, there is a portion (which probably isn't negligible if other forums are anything to go by). Those people will have bought the game specifically for that single player experience, which to date, has entailed being able to play wherever they go. Kinda sucks when you can't bring your single player games with you on vacation or whatever. Ergo, it can encourage people to seek out cracked/pirated versions of Diablo 3, which will cause those versions to increase in popularity and exposure, which brings it to the attention of more people, repeat ad nauseum. Also, DRM haters will probably download a pirated version just out of spite and more people will feel justified in downloading something with such a terrible DRM scheme.

TL;DR - You're wrong.

Sometimes I marvel at the hypocrisy of my fellow pc gamers. The next time an anti pc thread pops up, the blizzard defence force will be among the first to spew the usual :

1- pc gaming is great because you can mod your favorite games. If you don't like something, just mod it.

2- We have a lot more freedom and control over our games

3-devs like blizzard cares for pc gamers and everything they do is for the best. They are not like activision who milks their customers

4-down with ubisoft and their crappy drm. Why can't I play a single player game offline!

Sometimes I marvel at the hypocrisy of my fellow pc gamers. The next time an anti pc thread pops up, the blizzard defesen force will be among the first to spew the usual :

1- pc gaming is great because you can mod your favorite games

2- We have a lot more freedom and control over our games

3-devs like blizzards cares for pc gamers and everything they do is for the best.

4-down with ubisoft and their crappy drm.

malebog123

I wish I could sig this but I'm afraid it may be to much. :cry:

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Sometimes I marvel at the hypocrisy of my fellow pc gamers. The next time an anti pc thread pops up, the blizzard defesen force will be among the first to spew the usual :

1- pc gaming is great because you can mod your favorite games

2- We have a lot more freedom and control over our games

3-devs like blizzards cares for pc gamers and everything they do is for the best.

4-down with ubisoft and their crappy drm.

4th3ist

I wish I could sig this but I'm afraid it may be to much. :cry:

hey, hey, don't hate.

Totally agree man. Diablo 3 is not Diablo 2 with new graphics they are trying something new and their track record so far has been flawless. I hope the online req increases security and the economy is awesome.

Fanboy or not, remember when Blizzard released that game that everyone hated? Yea.. nuff said. How about looking at their track record for excellent games and cutting them a little faith. I mean yea they've ticked me off before with some character nerfs, but in the end they are a class company. How about at the very least just trying the game before jumping on the bashwagon.

Fanboy or not, remember when Blizzard released that game that everyone hated? Yea.. nuff said. How about looking at their track record for excellent games and cutting them a little faith. I mean yea they've ticked me off before with some character nerfs, but in the end they are a class company. How about at the very least just trying the game before jumping on the bashwagon.

judahstarguy

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Fanboy or not, remember when Blizzard released that game that everyone hated? Yea.. nuff said. How about looking at their track record for excellent games and cutting them a little faith. I mean yea they've ticked me off before with some character nerfs, but in the end they are a class company. How about at the very least just trying the game before jumping on the bashwagon.

SF_KiLLaMaN

I'm fine with most of the things that are happening with D3. The only gripe I have is the no mods. I thought the mods for Diablo and D2 were always awesome and fun. Gave the game more life after you've fragged every demon from here to eternity.

The first two are reasonable complaints.

Also, "Who cares?" is not a good argument. Obviously people care if they're voicing their opinion so strongly.

And, is it that hard to just ignore those threads? Instead you've made a new thread on the issue, opening up yourself to reading even more complaints?

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="judahstarguy"]

Fanboy or not, remember when Blizzard released that game that everyone hated? Yea.. nuff said. How about looking at their track record for excellent games and cutting them a little faith. I mean yea they've ticked me off before with some character nerfs, but in the end they are a class company. How about at the very least just trying the game before jumping on the bashwagon.

judahstarguy

While it may be true that it would happen regardless, I didn't expect Blizzard to sponsor it and make money off of it. It's a greedy plan by a company that people praise for loving its customers.

Well said good sir, I highly agree and will be waiting impatiently for this game to arrive!

I wonder how many people brushing off the online policy were tearing up Ubisoft for doing the exact same thing. It seems a lot less vitriol here than it was when Ubi did there thing. MadCat46

Online only - the only true downsides I can think for this is no single player and no single player hardcore. I truly do feel sorry for those that played Diablo this way, but they were truly an overwhelming minority especially the hardcore community. Hardcore people usually competed online. For hardcore if you lose your connection you'll lose your character, but that's going to happen whether there's a requirement or not. In my opinion losing single player for increased security and better sniffing out of those that cheat/hack is a huge payoff. The number 1 thing that killed Diablo 1 and 2 were the amounts of Dupes, cheats, hacks. All companies should look into ways to increase security in online games. I detest hacks.

Auction house - Diablo 2 trading was a chore. You had to sit in a chat room, or join a forum and meet people at certain times, or trust them and mule trade or join sites like D2JSP. Now you can browse what your looking for conveniately.

Real bling auction house - Pay to win concerns. I guess the pvp crowd are those most concerned, but the pvp community has always been a minority in this game. Even so, paying to win still existed and it still happened. I mean there were accounts that were nothing but bots directing you to sites where you bought stuff spamming you the moment you entered chat or entered a game. Honestly, I'm excited about playing the market in a RMAH system. If I can do as good as I usually do.. well cha-ching. Another great side effect of the RMAH is that it has made D2JSP currency for DIII next to worthless. Those folks were hording points just waiting to spend on DIII. Now they've lost that advantage, and there were more of these people from D2 than you think.

I'm still yet to read a justifiable reason from the apologists about the always online.

It's not part of the game design Quite Clearly it is now.

It's not preventing cheating further Well its preventing non-ladder server cheating... since the community was split between ladder and non ladder it is indeed cutting back, in otherwords you play Diablo III completely legit or not at all. While its a strict system, you will undermine th eentire point of a loot whore gambeling online game (which is what Diablo III is lets be honest...)

It's obtrusive It allows Blizzard to determine when you play the game no, my internet does as they wont just throw you off. which never ever goes off more than a minute or so on a bad day. Blizzards audiance are obsessed with online gaming, thats who they cater too, this is going to pull the WoW and Starcraft crowd, not the SP RPG nut... so im pretty sure there will still be a huge user base despite this.

It restricts the game you purchased, with full singleplayer capabilities completely This is part of your first and second point that I have adressed. IF you want a SP game, this isnt for you. Thats called Design.

It encourages piracy It cuts your game if you drop Apologists who are happy to complain about Ubisoft but fawn over Blizzardskrat_01

Again, directly comparing a FULLY SP game like Assassin's Creed to Diablo III is ridiculous, D3 is a social/competitive online loot whore game. Yes it could of made an "okay" SP experiance, but just like the previous Diablos .... it ended up being much less.

[QUOTE="gamer620"][QUOTE="skrat_01"] It encourages piracy rpgs_shall_rule

Uhh... your argument falls flat in more ways than the other guy's. First of all, you're going to waste 10+GBs anyways by installing the game. Second, if people are going to pirate the game, it'll be for the single player. Hell, even people that legitimately bought the game might download a crack to play the single player in cases where they don't have/don't want to use an Internet connection. Third of all, while most people do play the Diablo games in multiplayer, there is a portion (which probably isn't negligible if other forums are anything to go by). Those people will have bought the game specifically for that single player experience, which to date, has entailed being able to play wherever they go. Kinda sucks when you can't bring your single player games with you on vacation or whatever. Ergo, it can encourage people to seek out cracked/pirated versions of Diablo 3, which will cause those versions to increase in popularity and exposure, which brings it to the attention of more people, repeat ad nauseum. Also, DRM haters will probably download a pirated version just out of spite and more people will feel justified in downloading something with such a terrible DRM scheme.

TL;DR - You're wrong.

As someone who is not really happy about the recent announcements, but still looking forward to the game, from what I've seen apologists are much worse.

At least the other group doesn't label and insult other people, and make new topics just to do so.

2: Real Money AH

Okay...so Diablo 3 was already going to have people paying money for gear...so all the AH does is allow for people to actually turn their time spent in a video game into money. I could understand people complaining about this if the real money AH was the ONLY option...but it's not. I have a feeling that most people are going to use their weekly free AH listings on the real currency AH, then put everything else on the in game currency AH.....big deal.

This isn't an MMO...who cares if someone bought their gear? All this does is add options to players...if you don't like it, don't use it...but please stop crying over such a non-issue.

3: D3 is being "consolized"

This complaint stems from PC elitists, nothing more. There's absolutely nothing about the Diablo franchise that has to be "dumbed down" for consoles...nothing. In fact, Diablo on the PS1 was an awesome game...why can't D3 be the same? Just another thing for people to complain about.

testament1

So buying your gear to use in the arena environment, getting an unfair advantage is a non issue now? It does indeed effect me even if I don't use the AH, if there's people with too much money that could easily hand pick the best gear available.

To my knowledge with Diablo 3, you can just have four active abilites at one given time. This screams casualization because it's surely made with the consoles 4 main buttons in mind.

The first diablo single player game was great..I loved it..Thats to the person who said it sucked..When i first saw the diablo box with my brother i said wtf is this..We picked it up we where in love right off the bat.Was some thing new and different.My bro isnt a huge gamer like i am..Right now he just found out about steam..Hes starting to like it..Thats another thing..People on these boards love steam..In a way steam is the same way..When i have my pc up and running and thats every day..The first thing i do is log into steam..Think of diablo as like steam...Most of us love steam..Man it beats running to gamestop and buying games..Look at the deals they have..

Also the other guy saying this thread or post shouldnt be open why not???Look at the responces hes getting with this thread..Your seeing both sides of the argument here..One side like myself is not worried about diablo 3 being logged in all the time..The other side is..Thats what makes this post what it is...Defines who we are..Its not for you or me to judge peoples hates or likes about a certain problem..Its also for blizzard im sure they are lookin at the post and reading most of it..Im also sure they got a earful from players this week about this..Voice of opinion is what things are about..Im glad he made this post..It brings both sides ot the table..

You are supposed to play the game YOU BOUGHT whenever you want to!So if you have a laptop and travel or a storm or some electrical problems mess your connection you sit and wait.The problem with Ah is that when you find a rare item the first thing that runs through your head is should i keep it or should i sell it?this thing right here messes up real bad the fun from playing this game.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]I'm still yet to read a justifiable reason from the apologists about the always online. It's not part of the game design It's not preventing cheating further It's obtrusive It allows Blizzard to determine when you play the game It restricts the game you purchased, with full singleplayer capabilities completely It encourages piracy It cuts your game if you drop Apologists who are happy to complain about Ubisoft but fawn over Blizzardtestament1

All of the issues you just listed equals NOT A BIG DEAL.

Let's imagine you're in the middle of a single player session and haven't saved for a few hours. If your connection cuts out (which is very probable on any wireless connection) you're going to lose all that progress. Will you be singing the games praises then?SilverSignal

Bunch of assumptions. "You haven't saved for a few hours" what tells you there won't be an autosave system? What tells you that as soon as your connection goes down you will be locked out of the game?

You are supposed to play the game YOU BOUGHT whenever you want to!So if you have a laptop and travel or a storm or some electrical problems mess your connection you sit and wait.The problem with Ah is that when you find a rare item the first thing that runs through your head is should i keep it or should i sell it?this thing right here messes up real bad the fun from playing this game.

kingdmx22

You guys are gravedigging for your own point.

If everyone has that problem, noone will buy anything from the RMAH and only focus on selling. You can figure out what would happen then.

I'm not sure which is worse, the greedy corporations chiseling away at consumer's rights or the hive-mind that stands up and cheers and rallies against their own self-interests?

/shrug

-wildflower-

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]I'm still yet to read a justifiable reason from the apologists about the always online. It's not part of the game design It's not preventing cheating further It's obtrusive It allows Blizzard to determine when you play the game It restricts the game you purchased, with full singleplayer capabilities completely It encourages piracy It cuts your game if you drop Apologists who are happy to complain about Ubisoft but fawn over Blizzardtestament1

All of the issues you just listed equals NOT A BIG DEAL.