I beat it on the ps3 its not as great as everyone says it is. It is this : GTA4 in the wild west with a slightly better story and some gunplay mechanics.
RDR is twenty times the game ME2 is. Can't believe anyone would say otherwise.GeneralShowzer
I think ME2 is head and shoulders above RDR
how can anyone say the 'wild west' setting is better thatME's complex and compelling universe?
ME2 captivated me to the point where I couldnt eat or sleep cause I wanted to finish it so badly, RDR was a great game but ME's universe is too amazing for a wild west game or any game this year to beat it
Oh absolutely, im not saying its bad, it was very interesting until the single player story ended, after that I had basically no incentive to continue to play and its collected dust since.
[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]RDR is twenty times the game ME2 is. Can't believe anyone would say otherwise.gillri
I think ME2 is head and shoulders above RDR
how can anyone say the 'wild west' setting is better thatME's complex and compelling universe?
ME2 captivated me to the point where I couldnt eat or sleep cause I wanted to finish it so badly, RDR was a great game but ME's universe is too amazing for a wild west game or any game this year to beat it
RDR is a massive living breathing world.
ME2 is linear corridors with some static NPC's.
In RDR there is actually a universe to explore, rather than navigating that little ship and scanning planets.
[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]RDR is twenty times the game ME2 is. Can't believe anyone would say otherwise.GeneralShowzer
I think ME2 is head and shoulders above RDR
how can anyone say the 'wild west' setting is better thatME's complex and compelling universe?
ME2 captivated me to the point where I couldnt eat or sleep cause I wanted to finish it so badly, RDR was a great game but ME's universe is too amazing for a wild west game or any game this year to beat it
RDR is a massive living breathing world. ME2 is linear corridors with some static NPC's.
hence why its better, a more focused tighter designed game,aimlessly wondering around to get to my next objective while saving a whore for the 50th time doesnt do it for me
how can anyone say the 'wild west' setting is better thatME's complex and compelling universe?
ME2 captivated me to the point where I couldnt eat or sleep cause I wanted to finish it so badly, RDR was a great game but ME's universe is too amazing for a wild west game or any game this year to beat it
gillri
RDR is a massive living breathing world. ME2 is linear corridors with some static NPC's.
hence why its better, a more focused tighter designed game,aimlessly wondering around to get to my next objective while saving a whore for the 50th time doesnt do it for me
All i did in ME2 is wonder aimlessly. Go here recruit this guy, go there recruit this. Solve family drama, talk to people, solve family drama. How are people not bored with this. There is no point in anything you do in ME2.
[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] RDR is a massive living breathing world. ME2 is linear corridors with some static NPC's.GeneralShowzer
hence why its better, a more focused tighter designed game,aimlessly wondering around to get to my next objective while saving a whore for the 50th time doesnt do it for me
All i did in ME2 is wonder aimlessly. Go here recruit this guy, go there recruit this. Solve family drama, talk to people, solve family drama. How are people not bored with this. There is no point in anything you do in ME2.
the reason you hate are the reason I love it
some poeple thought There will be blood was a boring film, its in my top 5 films of all time...different ways of looking at things
[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] RDR is a massive living breathing world. ME2 is linear corridors with some static NPC's.GeneralShowzer
hence why its better, a more focused tighter designed game,aimlessly wondering around to get to my next objective while saving a whore for the 50th time doesnt do it for me
There is not point in saving the galaxy? @TC, IT is in development imo. Look up several weeks ago there was a thread stating rockstar is developing a new pc game. I'm sure its RDR PC All i did in ME2 is wonder aimlessly. Go here recruit this guy, go there recruit this. Solve family drama, talk to people, solve family drama. How are people not bored with this. There is no point in anything you do in ME2.
hence why its better, a more focused tighter designed game,aimlessly wondering around to get to my next objective while saving a whore for the 50th time doesnt do it for me
sakshamH
There is not point in saving the galaxy? @TC, IT is in development imo. Look up several weeks ago there was a thread stating rockstar is developing a new pc game. I'm sure its RDR PC All i did in ME2 is wonder aimlessly. Go here recruit this guy, go there recruit this. Solve family drama, talk to people, solve family drama. How are people not bored with this. There is no point in anything you do in ME2. But I'm not saving the galaxy... I'm wondering aimlessly recruiting people and solving their family dramas.
This shouldn't even be a debate, mass effect is by far a better game than GTA and RDR. RDR isnt really a living world its just you thrown in with some NPC's who perform scripted actions. Mass effect brings deep story, characters, and decision making (that actually matters). In my opinion rockstar games are great fun but they aren't serious and I myself would call them very childish.
This shouldn't even be a debate, mass effect is by far a better game than GTA and RDR. RDR isnt really a living world its just you thrown in with some NPC's who perform scripted actions. Mass effect brings deep story, characters, and decision making (that actually matters). In my opinion rockstar games are great fun but they aren't serious and I myself would call them very childish.
RDR has better story and better characters.GeneralShowzer
Lol, there is no character depth in RDR at all. "Yeah im john marston and im lookin fer my family" "Oh really well lets attack fort mercer and kill the bandits with a machinegun" "Kay yall"
RDR has better story and better characters.GeneralShowzer
I can see some points you are making,
the story comparison is debatable, but RDR's story certainly isnt better than ME1's story
and character comparison? thats as wrong as you can get
you realise the work and design gone into making ME's characters, the history of the races and their respective beefs with each other over the millenia?
you thinks thats less interesting than humans in the wild west?
This shouldn't even be a debate, mass effect is by far a better game than GTA and RDR. RDR isnt really a living world its just you thrown in with some NPC's who perform scripted actions. Mass effect brings deep story, characters, and decision making (that actually matters). In my opinion rockstar games are great fun but they aren't serious and I myself would call them very childish.
soldine
RDR is childish, but ME2 is a game for mature and attractive people? Please... There is nothing more immature that to be given a cast of female characters, and then you can chose who to have sex with. Also notice how everytime you talked to miranda the camera would switch behind her so you can see her backside. Real mature.
If ME2 deserved it, it would have won. This is not Spike TV or IGN , Gamespot is a professional gaming site. They compared the MAIN character from RDR to a side character from mass effect 2, you have much more time with john marston than you do with the alien. The thing about mass effect is that the main character is who you say he is, and your choices actually affect the story. RDR's story is the same outcome and other main characters will treat you the same way even if your an angel or a giant D-bag.
[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]RDR is twenty times the game ME2 is. Can't believe anyone would say otherwise.gillri
I think ME2 is head and shoulders above RDR
how can anyone say the 'wild west' setting is better thatME's complex and compelling universe?
ME2 captivated me to the point where I couldnt eat or sleep cause I wanted to finish it so badly, RDR was a great game but ME's universe is too amazing for a wild west game or any game this year to beat it
He's just a troll bashing every BioWare game. Ignore him. ME2 is GOTY despite what some pompus critics might say (GameSpot gave Alpha Protocol a 6 and Assassin's Creed 1 a 9 for god's sake)
Oh joy another RDR thread, I have actually changed my view on RDR now. I really really really want Rockstar to bring RDR to the PC ..... I don't want to play it I just want them to release the game on the PC to stop seeing these threads about people wanting RDR on the PC.
Is it possible we can also stop the Mass Effect vs RDR as well ?, that is a truly stupid comparison if ever there was one. GeneralShowzer I appreciate you do not like Mass Effect 2 and that is your opinion, I personally love Mass Effect 2 despite it's faults. I will say this though ME 2 has one thing over RDR and that is "it is actually ON the PC" at least Bioware make their games available on the PC rather than neglecting the most popular platform on the planet like Rockstar are doing.
"you realise the work and design gone into making ME's characters, the history of the races and their respective beefs with each other over the millenia?" Are you kidding me? Have you played RDR? It was ten times harder to create a massive world, fill it with various characters, add wildlife, random encounters, different game mechanics. ME2 just gives you a "codex" where it explains stuff. Why the hell should i care. In RDR i can actually see and explore the universe, instead of reading about it. In RDR went ten times more work than ME2 .
[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]RDR is twenty times the game ME2 is. Can't believe anyone would say otherwise.Darth_Kane
I think ME2 is head and shoulders above RDR
how can anyone say the 'wild west' setting is better thatME's complex and compelling universe?
ME2 captivated me to the point where I couldnt eat or sleep cause I wanted to finish it so badly, RDR was a great game but ME's universe is too amazing for a wild west game or any game this year to beat it
He's just a troll bashing every BioWare game. Ignore him. ME2 is GOTY
For you maybe. Not at Gamespot. And nice, calling everyone who disagrees with you a troll.
[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]"you realise the work and design gone into making ME's characters, the history of the races and their respective beefs with each other over the millenia?" Are you kidding me? Have you played RDR? It was ten times harder to create a massive world, fill it with various characters, add wildlife, random encounters, different game mechanics. ME2 just gives you a "codex" where it explains stuff. Why the hell should i care. In RDR i can actually see and explore the universe, instead of reading about it. In RDR went ten times more work than ME2 . Really im pretty sure there are plenty of planets to explore in mass effect 1 and 2. RDR is not a universe at all, its not even as big as far cry 2 is, they fill it with a few npc's that matter and then generate a few mexicans and bandits. The random encounters are laughable "Help mr. marston he stollz mah hoarse!" or something similar. Yeah lots of effort.
What was there to explore in ME2? Please tell me. Was it the Cidatel which was two corridors put together. How about the "Town" Where the Krogans live. The one room where the quarians are. There was nothing to explore in ME2.
lol Stop debating ME2 VS RDR there both completely different games aimed to give you different experiences there both great and people will favour both differently.
[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]What was there to explore in ME2? Please tell me. Was it the Cidatel which was two corridors put together. How about the "Town" Where the Krogans live. The one room where the quarians are. There was nothing to explore in ME2. how about the doesens of planets you can explore yourself by buying star charts or doing side quests for? Have you played both games or did you just start with 2, because I cant imagine why you would rate both games a 6 out of 10.
[QUOTE="soldine"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]What was there to explore in ME2? Please tell me. Was it the Cidatel which was two corridors put together. How about the "Town" Where the Krogans live. The one room where the quarians are. There was nothing to explore in ME2. how about the doesens of planets you can explore yourself by buying star charts or doing side quests for? Have you played both games or did you just start with 2, because I cant imagine why you would rate both games a 6 out of 10. I've played both. They both bored me.
lol Stop debating ME2 VS RDR there both completely different games aimed to give you different experiences there both great and people will favour both differently. scotty992
You're right, but why would they say "GTA IV clone , ME2 better, ect. " It's not true.
how about the doesens of planets you can explore yourself by buying star charts or doing side quests for? Have you played both games or did you just start with 2, because I cant imagine why you would rate both games a 6 out of 10.GeneralShowzer
I've played both. They both bored me.
lol Stop debating ME2 VS RDR there both completely different games aimed to give you different experiences there both great and people will favour both differently. scotty992
You're right, but why would they say "GTA IV clone , ME2 better, ect. " It's not true.
They are being small minded just look at the sales figures all those people clearly didn't think it was a clone.
[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="soldine"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] how about the doesens of planets you can explore yourself by buying star charts or doing side quests for? Have you played both games or did you just start with 2, because I cant imagine why you would rate both games a 6 out of 10. I've played both. They both bored me.
lol Stop debating ME2 VS RDR there both completely different games aimed to give you different experiences there both great and people will favour both differently. scotty992
You're right, but why would they say "GTA IV clone , ME2 better, ect. " It's not true. Im pretty sure your first post on this topic was that RDR was 20 times the game mass effect was and that you couldnt imagine someone disagreeing with you. Cool story bro.
Yeah we get it GeneralShowzer YOU think the Mass Effect series is rubbish, hell you tell us often enough in topics relating to Mass Effect so we do get it now. You happen to think RDR is a fantastic game and for you that might be right I accept that you obviously feel that RDR is better than Mass Effect 2. Now why can't you accept that others think Mass Effect 2 is better than RDR ? In my books Mass Effect 2 is already one step ahead of RDR in the fact it is actually on the PC.
Oh and by the way Mass effect got great reviews from gamespot so if gamespot is such a "professional gaming site" and wouldnt have gotten those scores if they werent deserved, you should like this game no?
I've not played RDr but I don't think characters of RDR are even close to MAss effect 2. But, like I said I've not played the game(RDR) IF people think Mass effect 2 is better, then its their opinion. Everyone has different tastes MAss Effect 2 is easily the game of the year(coulda been AC2 but DRm made sure it was 2nd for me :-)] for me . Its totally awesome
I wouldn't mind trying out RDR if it ever came for the PC. I have a genuine interest in the Old West and it seems this game was praised across the board for almost everything. I still think ME2 should have won some awards, such as best voice acting.
I like it how the people designing RDR's endgame thought they were making the tutorial. The developement was such a disaster, it's a miracle the game was actually good...
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