Mass Effect 3 Core Content Stripped to Make Day 1 DLC - Only Free to CE

Theres gotta be a way to protest damn it!! That article is already on fire. Same with the youtube video!Gamesterpheonix

There is. Don't buy the game

Theres gotta be a way to protest damn it!! That article is already on fire. Same with the youtube video!Gamesterpheonix

Simple. Don't buy the game. That's the only protest that'll matter.

Doesn't bother me, I wasn't going to buy it till it goes on sale anyways.

[QUOTE="Gamesterpheonix"]Theres gotta be a way to protest damn it!! That article is already on fire. Same with the youtube video!Phoenix534

Simple. Don't buy the game. That's the only protest that'll matter.

Problem is the preorder started way before this new got out. I already bought it. I would wait for the bargains if i hadnt...

Edit: Noticed cancelling pre orders on Origin is no problem. So i'm going to right now. I mean, there are loads of other games. I'll wait for the bargains.

Gamers sure do get up in arms over some incredibly trivial things. Oh no, I'll only get 78 hours of gameplay out of the game instead of 80....

Gamers sure do get up in arms over some incredibly trivial things. Oh no, I'll only get 78 hours of gameplay out of the game instead of 80....

Endgame_basic

One one level, you're right. But something like this seems to add quite a reasonable chunk to the whole story of Mass Effect and many EA games prior to this have rewarded all pre-orders (e.g. DA2 "signature edition") or all first time buyers (Shale, Zaeed) rather than just those willing to fork out for the shiny, super-expensive version (And yes, I had already ordered that before this storm hit).

People are now getting milked if they want the "optimum" experience of a game, which is worth objecting to, I reckon.

Gamers sure do get up in arms over some incredibly trivial things. Oh no, I'll only get 78 hours of gameplay out of the game instead of 80....

Endgame_basic

Well, gaming is a huge passion of mine, of course I'm gonna get irritated when stuff like this happens. It's not gonna cause the world to explode, but it's those little things and small changes that's gonna leave things crappy if it is allowed to continue. But I'm not gonna cause anymore ruckus about this, i cancelled my preorder, and gonna enjoy the full game at lower price in a few months, no biggie. I still have tons of games i haven't gotten around to even install yet.

Gamers sure do get up in arms over some incredibly trivial things. Oh no, I'll only get 78 hours of gameplay out of the game instead of 80....

Endgame_basic

Yeah, because it's not that big of a deal when an already over-priced $60 game suddenly becomes a $120 after all that wonderful DLC.

I also think charging 1/6 the price of the game for day-one DLC (that's probably shipping on the disc) is ridiculous. Obviously, there's a lot of suckers and apologists out there who buy this garbage or EA/Bioware (insert other greedy publishers/developers) wouldn't be doing it.

DLC and "achievements" should stay where they belong, on the consoles.

I don't know if this has been said yet, but this was pulled from the official mass effect 3 forums:

As most of you know,yesterday there was a leak that revealed the upcoming DLC "ME3:From Ashes" on the
Xbox LIVE Marketplace. This leak took place before we were prepared to make anannouncement about the details of that pack (slated for this Friday).

There has been a lot of discussion about the DLC offering but we wanted to clarify a few things...

- "From Ashes" includes theProthean squad mate, an adventure on Eden Prime, a new weapon, and an alternate
appearance foreverysquad mate. Note that these alternate appearances are inadditionto the ones already advertised in the CE.

- The Collectors Edition has been advertisedfrom the beginning as containing a bonus character/mission, but we were not atliberty to provide the details. The Prothean isoptionalcontent that iscertainly designed to appeal to long-time fans, which is why he is part of theCE offering (the version many fans would be likely to purchase). MassEffect 3 is a complete – and a huge game - right out of the box.

- The content in "From Ashes"was developed by a separate team (after the core game was finished) and not completed until well after the main game went into certification.

- The Collectors Edition has been sold out inmost places for some time now, and is becomingveryhard to find (manyplayers prefer not to purchase the digital version). As such, we wanted to makethis content available so that SE buyers could also incorporate the Protheaninto their game.

We'll be releasing someimages and video about this pack in the coming days.

As always, we are extremely thankful for all of your support. We pulled out all of the stops to make Mass Effect 3 the best game ever, and we can't wait for you all to experience it.

Mike

[QUOTE="Gamesterpheonix"]Theres gotta be a way to protest damn it!! That article is already on fire. Same with the youtube video!Phoenix534

Simple. Don't buy the game. That's the only protest that'll matter.

i definitely won't now (but im still gonna play it...) its my way of giving bioware the middle finger for the 2 bs moves of origin and now this crap

I don't know why people are acting surprised. This isn't a new practice by any means. A few things: I don't really care because I am not going to buy it at full price when its released. Is this stuff very crucial to the game anyway? Also, piracy is not the answer to this at all. If anything pirating the game is just going to make them find more ways to increase their profits. Just because there's extra content that you don't want to have to pay for doesn't entitle you to rip off a game that will be 20 hours alone without the additional content. biggest_loser

Its not an old practice but still doesn't make it agreeable. People have the right to be upset. Whats not important to you might be otherwise for another, thats subjective.

And nobody's talking about intending to pirate the game. Being upset about the business practices of a studio means they are pirates?

At most, the folks here stated they are most probably waiting for the bargain bins, which is a legitimate and smart move in all cases.

Its not an old practice but still doesn't make it agreeable. People have the right to be upset. Whats not important to you might be otherwise for another, thats subjective.

And nobody's talking about intending to pirate the game. Being upset about the business practices of a studio means they are pirates?

At most, the folks here stated they are most probably waiting for the bargain bins, which is a legitimate and smart move in all cases.

mirgamer

Did I say it was agreeable? No I did not. I didn't say people shouldn't be upset either but they're acting like this has never been done before.

Thanks for the life lesson on subjectivity but I can talk about my own feelings in my own post surely. Don't be so pedantic.

This bloke mentioned the possibility of piracy so get off your high horse.

after the flood of piracy that will plague this game and then realizing they are losing more than what they will win with their lol $10 dlc and origin forced policy they will learn i hope.

Krelian-co

I don't know if this has been said yet, but this was pulled from the official mass effect 3 forums:

As most of you know,yesterday there was a leak that revealed the upcoming DLC "ME3:From Ashes" on the
Xbox LIVE Marketplace. This leak took place before we were prepared to make anannouncement about the details of that pack (slated for this Friday).

There has been a lot of discussion about the DLC offering but we wanted to clarify a few things...

- "From Ashes" includes theProthean squad mate, an adventure on Eden Prime, a new weapon, and an alternate
appearance foreverysquad mate. Note that these alternate appearances are inadditionto the ones already advertised in the CE.

- The Collectors Edition has been advertisedfrom the beginning as containing a bonus character/mission, but we were not atliberty to provide the details. The Prothean isoptionalcontent that iscertainly designed to appeal to long-time fans, which is why he is part of theCE offering (the version many fans would be likely to purchase). MassEffect 3 is a complete – and a huge game - right out of the box.

- The content in "From Ashes"was developed by a separate team (after the core game was finished) and not completed until well after the main game went into certification.

- The Collectors Edition has been sold out inmost places for some time now, and is becomingveryhard to find (manyplayers prefer not to purchase the digital version). As such, we wanted to makethis content available so that SE buyers could also incorporate the Protheaninto their game.

We'll be releasing someimages and video about this pack in the coming days.

As always, we are extremely thankful for all of your support. We pulled out all of the stops to make Mass Effect 3 the best game ever, and we can't wait for you all to experience it.

Mike

Whatcurb

Wanna know why? The leaked script and characters and missions from JUNE last year had this prothean character in it plus his dialogue and such

...And nobody's talking about intending to pirate the game.

mirgamer

In all fairness, it does look like there is one post that kind of hints at playing the game without paying for it. Yes, this doesn't necessarily mean pirating it but I can see how people might jump to that conclusion.

Personally, I hope that nobody pirates the game but I also wish that nobody buys it either. Yeah, I know, pipe dreams...

Did I say it was agreeable? No I did not. I didn't say people shouldn't be upset either but they're acting like this has never been done before.

Thanks for the life lesson on subjectivity but I can talk about my own feelings in my own post surely. Don't be so pedantic.

This bloke mentioned the possibility of piracy so get off your high horse.

- The Collectors Edition has been sold out inmost places for some time now, and is becomingveryhard to find (manyplayers prefer not to purchase the digital version). As such, we wanted to makethis content available so that SE buyers could also incorporate the Protheaninto their game.

Whatcurb

Then don't make it $10, make it more like $5 at most. Of course it should have been included in the game for something like that.

Wanna know why? The leaked script and characters and missions from JUNE last year had this prothean character in it plus his dialogue and suchwis3boi

What makes this a dick move is that the character and location in the DLC are the most important things in the ME universe.

[spoiler] A Prothean squadmate and the first location you visit in ME lol [/spoiler]

Excellent fan bait.

This is why I keep a close eye on any EA published until really close to release. I almost didn't pre-order Reckoning because I was expecting something like this and the Dragon Age: Origin's Warden Keep bull.

If I ever buy this it will be under $5 for a game of the year edition.

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]Wanna know why? The leaked script and characters and missions from JUNE last year had this prothean character in it plus his dialogue and suchMakari

Complaining the way 'we' do shows pretty much a spectacular lack of education on how they operate, and I really don't think it'll make much in the way of positive changes. It's not 'I disagree with your pricing,' it's not 'don't make characters DLC,' it's not even 'I don't care about DLC' - it's 'just sit on the content and don't release it for a month and we won't complain anymore when you do release it.'Makari

DLCs that cut key elements from the main storyline are unacceptable. They did it with ME2 Arrival DLC, content that could have just be included in ME3, and now they're doing it again. The complaints are finally starting to get more attention. If Bioware/EA did really cut key content, and then blatantly lie about it, that really calls into question the quality of the $60 game you're about to purchase...

Its just business its just not good business.

James161324

I think Bioware and EA are big enough to get away with it too. I had no interest in ME3 after seeing what they did with ME2 after ME1. I'm sorry you all go screwed, but are you really surprised?

I'm ashamed to say I pre-orderd this game. Last time Bioware. LAST TIME!!!!!!!!

Meh, I'm passing on this game for now...I'll probably get it some time down the road but I have too many gripes with Bioware

[QUOTE="Makari"] Complaining the way 'we' do shows pretty much a spectacular lack of education on how they operate, and I really don't think it'll make much in the way of positive changes. It's not 'I disagree with your pricing,' it's not 'don't make characters DLC,' it's not even 'I don't care about DLC' - it's 'just sit on the content and don't release it for a month and we won't complain anymore when you do release it.'Swiftstrike5

DLCs that cut key elements from the main storyline are unacceptable. They did it with ME2 Arrival DLC, content that could have just be included in ME3, and now they're doing it again. The complaints are finally starting to get more attention. If Bioware/EA did really cut key content, and then blatantly lie about it, that really calls into question the quality of the $60 game you're about to purchase...

[QUOTE="Swiftstrike5"]

[QUOTE="Makari"] Complaining the way 'we' do shows pretty much a spectacular lack of education on how they operate, and I really don't think it'll make much in the way of positive changes. It's not 'I disagree with your pricing,' it's not 'don't make characters DLC,' it's not even 'I don't care about DLC' - it's 'just sit on the content and don't release it for a month and we won't complain anymore when you do release it.'Makari

DLCs that cut key elements from the main storyline are unacceptable. They did it with ME2 Arrival DLC, content that could have just be included in ME3, and now they're doing it again. The complaints are finally starting to get more attention. If Bioware/EA did really cut key content, and then blatantly lie about it, that really calls into question the quality of the $60 game you're about to purchase...

How does any of what you said justify what they're doing?-Unreal-

[QUOTE="Swiftstrike5"]

[QUOTE="Makari"] Complaining the way 'we' do shows pretty much a spectacular lack of education on how they operate, and I really don't think it'll make much in the way of positive changes. It's not 'I disagree with your pricing,' it's not 'don't make characters DLC,' it's not even 'I don't care about DLC' - it's 'just sit on the content and don't release it for a month and we won't complain anymore when you do release it.'Makari

DLCs that cut key elements from the main storyline are unacceptable. They did it with ME2 Arrival DLC, content that could have just be included in ME3, and now they're doing it again. The complaints are finally starting to get more attention. If Bioware/EA did really cut key content, and then blatantly lie about it, that really calls into question the quality of the $60 game you're about to purchase...

It just baffles me that a huge company like Bioware would do this, i mean they are gonna cash in big anyways. Surprising us with a "Hey guys, we got a day 1 DLC with a extra character and mission, and of course it's free!" Didn't they even think about the fact that people are getting fed up with this "pay more if you want the full game" nonsense? I know that nothing comes for free these days, but goodwill from your customers is good business anyways.

So...seems like I'll be the only guy playing ME3 on PC...gonna be a ghost town on co-op!spiderman120988

I'll be playing as well, I have looked at what was said from both sides about this whole ordeal and I just think its been blown completely out of proportion. I don't feel that the DLC is going to amount to much besides being a side quest that is ultimately fluff and inconsequential. But I understand how people feel, people need something to point their fingers at and Bioware/EA is the absolute evil everyone can rally against and everyone universally hates. Whats crazy to me is that people have become so vindictive and irrational at this point, that really any chance for debate on the issue is long since gone. People have taken their stand and you are either with them, or against them.

[QUOTE="spiderman120988"]So...seems like I'll be the only guy playing ME3 on PC...gonna be a ghost town on co-op!Cordliss

I'll be playing as well, I have looked at what was said from both sides about this whole ordeal and I just think its been blown completely out of proportion. I don't feel that the DLC is going to amount to much besides being a side quest that is ultimately fluff and inconsequential. But I understand how people feel, people need something to point their fingers at and Bioware/EA is the absolute evil everyone can rally against and everyone universally hates. Whats crazy to me is that people have become so vindictive and irrational at this point, that really any chance for debate on the issue is long since gone. People have taken their stand and you are either with them, or against them.

[QUOTE="Cordliss"]

[QUOTE="spiderman120988"]So...seems like I'll be the only guy playing ME3 on PC...gonna be a ghost town on co-op!Elann2008

I'll be playing as well, I have looked at what was said from both sides about this whole ordeal and I just think its been blown completely out of proportion. I don't feel that the DLC is going to amount to much besides being a side quest that is ultimately fluff and inconsequential. But I understand how people feel, people need something to point their fingers at and Bioware/EA is the absolute evil everyone can rally against and everyone universally hates. Whats crazy to me is that people have become so vindictive and irrational at this point, that really any chance for debate on the issue is long since gone. People have taken their stand and you are either with them, or against them.

I enjoyed what I played and look forward to seeing what other kinds of enemies and maps they will have available. I also enjoyed what I played of Space Marines MP and Dead Spaces 2s MP both had their fun parts and if anything kept me playing longer then I would normally have. I don't feel ME3s MP was tacked on at all, sure its a straight forward horde mode with some occasional objective capturing but all in all I enjoyed what I played and that all that matters to me.

however, I don't think Bioware would scrap him out of the game entirely for those who don't have the DLC.rmfd341

I wonder what rippers will find on the disk files when the game gets released. More content locked until Bioware wants to unlock it as DLC?

[QUOTE="rmfd341"]however, I don't think Bioware would scrap him out of the game entirely for those who don't have the DLC.Miroku32

I wonder what rippers will find on the disk files when the game gets released. More content locked until Bioware wants to unlock it as DLC?

I don't know if this has been said yet, but this was pulled from the official mass effect 3 forums:

As most of you know,yesterday there was a leak that revealed the upcoming DLC "ME3:From Ashes" on the
Xbox LIVE Marketplace. This leak took place before we were prepared to make anannouncement about the details of that pack (slated for this Friday).

There has been a lot of discussion about the DLC offering but we wanted to clarify a few things...

- "From Ashes" includes theProthean squad mate, an adventure on Eden Prime, a new weapon, and an alternate
appearance foreverysquad mate. Note that these alternate appearances are inadditionto the ones already advertised in the CE.

- The Collectors Edition has been advertisedfrom the beginning as containing a bonus character/mission, but we were not atliberty to provide the details. The Prothean isoptionalcontent that iscertainly designed to appeal to long-time fans, which is why he is part of theCE offering (the version many fans would be likely to purchase). MassEffect 3 is a complete – and a huge game - right out of the box.

- The content in "From Ashes"was developed by a separate team (after the core game was finished) and not completed until well after the main game went into certification.

- The Collectors Edition has been sold out inmost places for some time now, and is becomingveryhard to find (manyplayers prefer not to purchase the digital version). As such, we wanted to makethis content available so that SE buyers could also incorporate the Protheaninto their game.

We'll be releasing someimages and video about this pack in the coming days.

As always, we are extremely thankful for all of your support. We pulled out all of the stops to make Mass Effect 3 the best game ever, and we can't wait for you all to experience it.

Mike

Whatcurb

[QUOTE="Cordliss"]

[QUOTE="spiderman120988"]So...seems like I'll be the only guy playing ME3 on PC...gonna be a ghost town on co-op!Elann2008

I'll be playing as well, I have looked at what was said from both sides about this whole ordeal and I just think its been blown completely out of proportion. I don't feel that the DLC is going to amount to much besides being a side quest that is ultimately fluff and inconsequential. But I understand how people feel, people need something to point their fingers at and Bioware/EA is the absolute evil everyone can rally against and everyone universally hates. Whats crazy to me is that people have become so vindictive and irrational at this point, that really any chance for debate on the issue is long since gone. People have taken their stand and you are either with them, or against them.